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I did it, just finished making my first batch of pemmican! For those of you

on Atkins (or other high fat diets, or follow Nourishing Traditions

suggestions, or are back packers, pemmican is delicious!

It tastes like a cross between bacon and beef jerky.

Here are many different recipes:

http://www.lns.cornell.edu/~seb/pemmican.html

http://www.pemmicanjerky.com/

http://collections.ic.gc.ca/notukeu/pemmican_e1.htm

My " twist to it is I fermented the beef in kefir (not whey), garlic,

marjoram, and Celtic sea salt for about 12 hours first.

Then to the beef and suet (you get from a butcher and they either give it to

you fre or charge about $1.00) I added a little coconut oil, and toasted

sesame seeds and organic flaked coconut. You can add berries, other types

of nuts, maybe some hot pepper.

When I first read this recipe about a year ago I could not figure out why

anyone would want to eat it, the ingredients sound weird. I was wrong, it

is incredible, and it lasts for up to one year on the shelf!

Kat

http://www.katking.com

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Kat,

Great job. I have been looking for a collection of variant pemmican

recipies for years. Thanks for the link.

Please post your whole recipie you made. How did it come out. Did

you like what you added?

DMM

> I did it, just finished making my first batch of pemmican! For

those of you

> on Atkins (or other high fat diets, or follow Nourishing Traditions

> suggestions, or are back packers, pemmican is delicious!

>

> It tastes like a cross between bacon and beef jerky.

>

> Here are many different recipes:

> http://www.lns.cornell.edu/~seb/pemmican.html

> http://www.pemmicanjerky.com/

> http://collections.ic.gc.ca/notukeu/pemmican_e1.htm

>

> My " twist to it is I fermented the beef in kefir (not whey), garlic,

> marjoram, and Celtic sea salt for about 12 hours first.

>

> Then to the beef and suet (you get from a butcher and they either

give it to

> you fre or charge about $1.00) I added a little coconut oil, and

toasted

> sesame seeds and organic flaked coconut. You can add berries,

other types

> of nuts, maybe some hot pepper.

>

> When I first read this recipe about a year ago I could not figure

out why

> anyone would want to eat it, the ingredients sound weird. I was

wrong, it

> is incredible, and it lasts for up to one year on the shelf!

>

> Kat

> http://www.katking.com

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It turned out so incredible! For those of you who are new to this type of

food preparation, you might want to try one of the beginning recipes I

posted earlier (see bottom of this page).

Coconut Sesame Pemmican

1> 6 lbs meat: ferment meat in kefir for 12 hours with spices - I like

garlic, marjoram and Celtic sea salt.

2> dehydrate about 48 hours so it is very dry

3> grind into powder (you get about 2 lbs.), you can use food processor. I

tried the VitaMix but it got too hot, and I do not want the meat to cook.

1> 2 pounds suet: In a pan add suet and cook over medium heat. At first it

just looks like chunks of fat, then it begins to melt down an you will have

liquid, be patient. It is kind of like making bacon well done, only at a

medium temperature.

2> Pour suet into the meat powder a little at a time. Keep mixing so it is

mixed completely.

*At first I did not think I was going to have enough suet so I added about

1/4 cup virgin coconut oil. What a wonderful surprise, the taste is out of

this world!

After the suet has melted and you have poured most of it into the meat, take

out the chunks that are left in the pan and brown 1/4 cup sesame seeds and

1/4 cup organic coconut flakes. When they are brown add to the pemmican,

mix well.

To store I put a little into cupcake papers and gently stacked them in a 1

gallon glass jar. When it cools it will have more structure.

Enjoy! Please let me know if you make this and what you think of it.

Kat

http://www.katking.com

----- Original Message -----

From: " drmichaelmarasco " <mmarasco@...>

< >

Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 2:59 PM

Subject: Re: Pemmican

> Kat,

>

> Great job. I have been looking for a collection of variant pemmican

> recipies for years. Thanks for the link.

>

> Please post your whole recipie you made. How did it come out. Did

> you like what you added?

>

> DMM

>

> > I did it, just finished making my first batch of pemmican! For

> those of you

> > on Atkins (or other high fat diets, or follow Nourishing Traditions

> > suggestions, or are back packers, pemmican is delicious!

> >

> > It tastes like a cross between bacon and beef jerky.

> >

> > Here are many different recipes:

> > http://www.lns.cornell.edu/~seb/pemmican.html

> > http://www.pemmicanjerky.com/

> > http://collections.ic.gc.ca/notukeu/pemmican_e1.htm

> >

> > My " twist to it is I fermented the beef in kefir (not whey), garlic,

> > marjoram, and Celtic sea salt for about 12 hours first.

> >

> > Then to the beef and suet (you get from a butcher and they either

> give it to

> > you fre or charge about $1.00) I added a little coconut oil, and

> toasted

> > sesame seeds and organic flaked coconut. You can add berries,

> other types

> > of nuts, maybe some hot pepper.

> >

> > When I first read this recipe about a year ago I could not figure

> out why

> > anyone would want to eat it, the ingredients sound weird. I was

> wrong, it

> > is incredible, and it lasts for up to one year on the shelf!

> >

> > Kat

> > http://www.katking.com

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> It turned out so incredible! For those of you who are new to this

type of

> food preparation, you might want to try one of the beginning

recipes I

> posted earlier (see bottom of this page).

>

> Coconut Sesame Pemmican

>

> 1> 6 lbs meat: ferment meat in kefir for 12 hours with spices - I

like

Kat,

After you've soaked the meat in kefir, do you wipe or rinse the kefir

off, or do you dehydrate it with whatever kefir clings to the meat?

Thanks,

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Hi ,

Don't wipe the kefir off. In fact try to get as much to dehydrate with the

meat as possible as it adds a wonderful flavor.

Kat

http://www.katking.com

----- Original Message -----

From: " kili94 " <lm324@...>

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Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 7:35 AM

Subject: Re: Pemmican

>

> > It turned out so incredible! For those of you who are new to this

> type of

> > food preparation, you might want to try one of the beginning

> recipes I

> > posted earlier (see bottom of this page).

> >

> > Coconut Sesame Pemmican

> >

> > 1> 6 lbs meat: ferment meat in kefir for 12 hours with spices - I

> like

>

> Kat,

>

> After you've soaked the meat in kefir, do you wipe or rinse the kefir

> off, or do you dehydrate it with whatever kefir clings to the meat?

>

> Thanks,

>

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Hello, i was part of the group while living in Switzerland and am now back

in the US.

I was wondering if anyone knows of a source for pemmican made from

pasture-fed beef. I would like to try it but am not feeling ambitious enough

to make it. I am curious what it's like to make though.

I'm sure this has been addressed at least once so my apologies.

Elaine

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, I don't have extra fat on my cattle to sell as tallow. My

cattle are Galloways, which grow a second layer of hair in the

winter. This keeps them warm and negates the need to but on extra

back-fat in the fall/winter. The fat they make goes into marbeling

the meat first, and only a really obese animal ends up with extra fat

on it. The good side is the meat is tender " from the inside " , and the

fat that is available for ground, (which is still lean) is the

internal fat which is more nutrient-dense. But the bad side is unless

I have an old bull or cow, I never have extra fat!

Thanks,

Jan

www.blackberryridgellc.com

>

> > US Wellness is a good company, but they are not organic...

>

> Jan,

>

> Do you sell tallow, then?

> B.

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--- B, " downwardog7 " <illneverbecool@...> wrote (from Neaderthin):

> p. 67

> Eighty-five percent of the calories in pemmican are derived from fat..

>

> p. 99

> If eaten exclusively, a small amount per day (3/4 pound for average

> adult) will sustain you indefinitely without vitamin or mineral

> deficiencies.

,

OK, I'm sold. Are there any good commercial varieties worth trying?

<seen it at WF but never tried it before>

This sounds like a good lunch option for work days :)

Never have to worry about vitamins and minerals again?

But pemmican forever would be such a boring diet :)

<likes variety>

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On 3/13/07, downwardog7 <illneverbecool@...> wrote:

> Since the digestion of pemmican requires no intestinal

> flora, eating pemmican exclusively for several days will greatly

> reduce bacterial presence in the gut.

More room for parasites. Yay!

Chris

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A quick perusal of Amazon reviews suggests that " Neaderthin " is a

poorly written and researched book, although its dietary advice may be

on target. So I'm not going to buy it, but I am very interested in

making pemmican. Do you guys have any tips? I assume the recipe is

pretty simple. Is the recipe in NT good or are there better ones?

Thanks,

Tom

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> A quick perusal of Amazon reviews suggests that " Neaderthin " is a

> poorly written and researched book, although its dietary advice may be

> on target. So I'm not going to buy it, but I am very interested in

> making pemmican. Do you guys have any tips? I assume the recipe is

> pretty simple. Is the recipe in NT good or are there better ones?

Neanderthin is pretty light reading. It's great for a beginner, but

we all learn much more on this list, I am sure. The pemmican recipe

is 1 lb. beef suet and 1 lb. beef jerky. You have to render the suet

or tallow so that all the water is gone. NT has more beef (jerkied in

a later step), so it will be less weight when processed. And NT has

optional 1/2 cup dried cranberries and 1/4 cup maple syrup (I'd go

with the former only, myself). Powderize the beef and mix with fat.

That's it is both recipes ... well, Neanderthin has pemmican in mufin

tins, NT has a mason jar. I think little cakes are better than a glob

meself.

Deanna

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> More room for parasites. Yay!

>

>

I considered that, but pemmican was the food of some of the fittest

people on earth. so i wonder if steffanson or anyone else addresses

that subject? it seems to me that a diet of pemmican isn't conducive

to parasites since the meat is dried. does anybody know?

my experience with keeping wild animals in captivity is that a healthy

organism--in this case reptiles--can carry a certain level of parasite

burden without undue stress.

tb

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--- In , Seay <entheogens@...>

wrote:

>

>

> Are there any commercially available, i.e. at Whole

> Foods, that are of good quality? Could you make

> recommendations?

> ,

The only manufacturer/retailer I know of is

http://tinyurl.com/f9gq7

You'll get 20% off a first order and shipping is included.

You can call them and order a sample package of, I think, 2 bars, for

$15. that's a lot of money but, for me, it was crucial, since the

stuff made with honey and cherries makes me quite literally gag,

though I adore the plain. weird, because I love both honey and

cherries.

The high price is to cover the shipping, because they'll ship it

frozen. But you may wish to sample before buying a bunch of it.

There's a sort of " dog food goodness " to it...

The problem with this pemmican is that the manufacturer isn't reliably

drying the meat well enough (since doing so is so destructive to the

machinary) to ensure its keeping quality without refrigeration. I

realize that sucks but it's still a reasonable product if you have the

refrigerator/freezer space or eat it quickly otherwise. in France

ate a bar the other day that iirc was purchased at the November WAPF

conf and he was well and happy enough after. maybe Jan will start

making a proper pemmican and we can buy it from her.

FWIW the USWellness jerky is awesome and the smoked beef briskets are

outrageously delicious.

tb

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> I considered that, but pemmican was the food of some of the fittest

> people on earth. so i wonder if steffanson or anyone else addresses

> that subject? it seems to me that a diet of pemmican isn't conducive

> to parasites since the meat is dried. does anybody know?

What I mean by conducive to parasites is the absence of a thriving

colonic bacterial population. One study with pigs found inulin

supplementation to reduce parasitic infections by 77% -- by promoting

fermentation of the good guys. I don't think pemmican is a bad food.

I just question the wisdom that a pure pemmican diet is ideal for the

bowel because it doesn't promote fermentation. To me that means no

competition to keep the bad boys out and no food like butyrate for the

colon cells.

> my experience with keeping wild animals in captivity is that a healthy

> organism--in this case reptiles--can carry a certain level of parasite

> burden without undue stress.

I don't doubt it, but lack of non-digestible bifidogenic fibers in the

gut means more clostridum, more E. coli, less bifidius, somewhat less

lactobacillus, and more parasites. Doesn't seem like the ideal

picture of the bowel to me.

Chris

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