Re: too much liver?

[Guest guest]

Hi Wanita,

Thankyou-- but I'm confused on a couple points. What exactly are purines,

and are you saying that sources of purines can replace organ meats?

And as to the root canal, I thought garlic was an antimicrobial, but you

don't think it will help at all?

Thanks a bunch,

Chris

In a message dated 9/12/02 7:30:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

wanitawa@... writes:

> You can if you're not the protein metabolic type and you eat it daily.

> Seriously, I don't want to sound like a broken record but high levels of

> purines aren't good for everyone. Sardines, mussels and pinto beans are

> other

> purine choices that might fit your college budget. You'll get this

> information

> and more if you read Metabolic Man and Metabolic Typing Diet.

>

> Was just about to answer your question on your root canals and

> conjunctivitis.

> I suggested garlic, C & E as working for me before on another thread for

> abcesses. The garlic won't hurt any bacteria in the root canal or causing

> the

> conjunctivitis. C & E I use for healing and pain. Another possibility is

> Wolcott in MTD talks about a tooth he tried to save. Experienced blood

sugar

> problems then found through chiropractor that that tooth was connected to

> pancreas. Tooth gone, blood sugar normalized. Few years back my SIL's

> dentist

> removed a tooth that cured her back she was out of work for. Could be the

> trauma of the root canal affected your eye with it being so close too. C

> supplements aren't recommended for protein types even though I've megadosed

> with abcesses prior. Something interesting is rutin (form of C) found in

> buckwheat is what our thymus gland secretes when we are young to form our

> teeth.

>

____

" What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a

heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and

animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of

them make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense

compassion, which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to

bear the sight of the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature.

Thus they pray ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the

truth, and for those who do them wrong. "

--Saint Isaac the Syrian

[Guest guest]

At 06:04 PM 9/12/02 -0400, Masterjohn wrote:

>Hi,

>

>Is it ok to eat liver every day?  I had said before on this list that I

think

>my state of health has deteriorated to such that by eating whole foods and

>organic, pastured, when possible, meat, and pastured raw milk, is only

>keeping me " feeling good " and not _rebuilding_ my body. 

>Anyway, can you eat too much liver?

Hi

You can if you're not the protein metabolic type and you eat it daily.

Seriously, I don't want to sound like a broken record but high levels of

purines aren't good for everyone. Sardines, mussels and pinto beans are other

purine choices that might fit your college budget. You'll get this information

and more if you read Metabolic Man and Metabolic Typing Diet.

Was just about to answer your question on your root canals and conjunctivitis.

I suggested garlic, C & E as working for me before on another thread for

abcesses. The garlic won't hurt any bacteria in the root canal or causing the

conjunctivitis. C & E I use for healing and pain. Another possibility is

Wolcott in MTD talks about a tooth he tried to save. Experienced blood sugar

problems then found through chiropractor that that tooth was connected to

pancreas. Tooth gone, blood sugar normalized. Few years back my SIL's dentist

removed a tooth that cured her back she was out of work for. Could be the

trauma of the root canal affected your eye with it being so close too. C

supplements aren't recommended for protein types even though I've megadosed

with abcesses prior. Something interesting is rutin (form of C) found in

buckwheat is what our thymus gland secretes when we are young to form our

teeth.

Wanita

[Guest guest]

Hi

I don't know if you can eat too much liver, but I do know that whenever I

have craved a wholesome type of food I needed it. You will probably get

sick of liver when you no longer need it.

Kat

http://www.katking.com

[Guest guest]

Hi i envy you. I would like to eat liver weekly now that i'm pregnant

and can't. For some reason i find the taste too intense and the texture too

odd. I couldn't stomach it and threw it out. My daughter didn't like it

either. I'm going to try it again in a month or so.

Elaine

[Guest guest]

No, i made the mistake of doing nothing but throwing it in a pan for a few

minutes because i was rushed. Next time i will follow a recipe with the

marinade and a good sauce. Thanks for the tip.

Elaine

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/13/02 2:42:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

emarshall@... writes:

> Hi i envy you. I would like to eat liver weekly now that i'm pregnant

> and can't. For some reason i find the taste too intense and the texture too

> odd. I couldn't stomach it and threw it out. My daughter didn't like it

> either. I'm going to try it again in a month or so.

Did you try marinating it in lemon juice? I've only cooked it once (with

several leftover dishes from it), and I followed the NT recipe of soaking it

in lemon juice for 3 hours after slicing it, then cooking it. I don't know

if I used too much lemon juice or what, but the only complaint I had about it

was that the texture was too soft and the taste wasn't strong enough!!!

Chris

____

" What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a

heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and

animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of

them make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense

compassion, which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to

bear the sight of the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature.

Thus they pray ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the

truth, and for those who do them wrong. "

--Saint Isaac the Syrian

[Guest guest]

At 08:18 PM 9/12/02 -0400, you wrote:

>Hi

>

>Thankyou-- but I'm confused on a couple points.  What exactly are purines,

>and are you saying that sources of purines can replace organ meats?

From pg. 207 Metabolic Man, 10,000 Years from Eden.

makes particular reference to another class of proteins he calls

" nucleoproteins. " These are the valuable nucleotide bases adenine, guanine,

cytosine, thymine and uracil. The first four comprise the the genetic code of

DNA. Their availability is critical to one's total personality strength.

watson

considers the most important of these bases to be adenine and guanine (called

by chemists " purines " ) Elsewhere we discuss " purine-rich " proteins such as

herring, mussels and sardines.

The information storage and message conveyance system of cells is made up of

various kinds of nucleic acids. As you may be aware, one of these,the famed

DNA( deoxyribonucleic acid)in the cell nucleus issues precise instructions as

to what kinds of cells to make and where to make them. Another nucleic acid

such as mRNA (ribonucleic acid, where uracil substitutes for thymine) carries

messages from the blueprint DNA throughout the cell.

Unfortunately, the quality of these nucleic acids seems to deteriorate with

age. Along comes (M.D. 1975,1976) credited with bringing to our

attention the novel discovery that high quality DNA and RNA can be supplied

our

cells from outside the body to enable us to stay healthier for longer than

expected from the general experience of the human race.

It so happens the nucleotide basesform the rungs in the spiral staircaseof the

DNA molecule as well as the links by which RNA copies their sequence (message)

by which tasks within the cell are carried out. All this is powered within the

citric acid cycle in which a special compound, ATP, loses a phosphate and

becomes ADP, which becomes ATP again, over and over. Nucleic acids in the diet

apparentlyincrease ATP productivity, which is of course, the ultimate energy

source for running our bodies.

Since the nucleic acid content of foods is of great value in the critical

citric (Krebs) cycle where the bulk of cellular energyis produced, only with

this cycle operating at peak efficiency can you slow down the aging process

and

combat degenerative diseases. This is the legacy handed down by men like

and his contemporary, .

Footnote: According to the table published by , foods with the highest

content of nucleic acid (analyzed from RNA)are canned sardines 590, pinto

beans

485, lentils 484, chicken liver 402, garbanzo beans 356, fresh sardines 343,

black eyed peas 306, fresh salmon 289 ( 1976)

My MTD copy is out on loan. Wolcott includes mussels (yum) and herring in the

protein type high purine foods. Hope this helps with variety besides liver so

you can get varied vitamins and minerals and still supply purine. Salmon being

the most costly.

>

>And as to the root canal, I thought garlic was an antimicrobial, but you

>don't think it will help at all? 

Sorry I wasn't clear. Garlic will definitely help any remaining infection as

well as prevent.

Wanita

[Guest guest]

Wow, thanks a lot Wanita. I have no idea if I'm a protein-type or not, though I

do know that there's something in meat that I need, after two years of being

vegetarian, and that I feel best when I eat beef, and if I eat chicken instead

of beef for a week I can only make up for how I feel with the chicken soup.

Anyway thanks a lot-- maybe there was a typo or something, but I mustunderstood

about the garlic. Thanks a bunch! Maybe it's not hopeless!!! ;-)

Chris

[Guest guest]

Wanita wrote:

" My MTD copy is out on loan. Wolcott includes mussels (yum) and herring in

the

protein type high purine foods. Hope this helps with variety besides liver

so

you can get varied vitamins and minerals and still supply purine. Salmon

being

the most costly. "

In MTD, the following are on the list of high purine foods:

Meat/Fowl: organ meats, pate, beef liver, chicken liver (although seems to

me organ meat would cover the other three)

Seafood: anchovy, caviar, herring, mussel, sardine

--

[Guest guest]

Hi Wanita,

This information about purines is fascinating. Do you know exactly

what the numerical reference after each food represents? Is it mg's.

Do you know the amount(volume or weight) of each ingredient, i.e.,

1/2 cup or a pound? What is RNA?

Thanks,

Sheila

Footnote: According to the table published by , foods with the

highest

content of nucleic acid (analyzed from RNA)are canned sardines 590,

pinto

beans

485, lentils 484, chicken liver 402, garbanzo beans 356, fresh

sardines 343,

black eyed peas 306, fresh salmon 289 ( 1976)

> >Hi

> >

> >Thankyou-- but I'm confused on a couple points.  What exactly are

purines,

> >and are you saying that sources of purines can replace organ meats?

>

> From pg. 207 Metabolic Man, 10,000 Years from Eden.

>

> makes particular reference to another class of proteins he

calls

> " nucleoproteins. " These are the valuable nucleotide bases adenine,

guanine,

> cytosine, thymine and uracil. The first four comprise the the

genetic code of

> DNA. Their availability is critical to one's total personality

strength.

> watson

> considers the most important of these bases to be adenine and

guanine (called

> by chemists " purines " ) Elsewhere we discuss " purine-rich " proteins

such as

> herring, mussels and sardines.

>

> The information storage and message conveyance system of cells is

made up of

> various kinds of nucleic acids. As you may be aware, one of

these,the famed

> DNA( deoxyribonucleic acid)in the cell nucleus issues precise

instructions as

> to what kinds of cells to make and where to make them. Another

nucleic acid

> such as mRNA (ribonucleic acid, where uracil substitutes for

thymine) carries

> messages from the blueprint DNA throughout the cell.

>

> Unfortunately, the quality of these nucleic acids seems to

deteriorate with

> age. Along comes (M.D. 1975,1976) credited with

bringing to our

> attention the novel discovery that high quality DNA and RNA can be

supplied

> our

> cells from outside the body to enable us to stay healthier for

longer than

> expected from the general experience of the human race.

>

> It so happens the nucleotide basesform the rungs in the spiral

staircaseof the

> DNA molecule as well as the links by which RNA copies their

sequence (message)

> by which tasks within the cell are carried out. All this is powered

within the

> citric acid cycle in which a special compound, ATP, loses a

phosphate and

> becomes ADP, which becomes ATP again, over and over. Nucleic acids

in the diet

> apparentlyincrease ATP productivity, which is of course, the

ultimate energy

> source for running our bodies.

>

> Since the nucleic acid content of foods is of great value in the

critical

> citric (Krebs) cycle where the bulk of cellular energyis produced,

only with

> this cycle operating at peak efficiency can you slow down the aging

process

> and

> combat degenerative diseases. This is the legacy handed down by men

like

>

> and his contemporary, .

>

> Footnote: According to the table published by , foods with the

highest

> content of nucleic acid (analyzed from RNA)are canned sardines 590,

pinto

> beans

> 485, lentils 484, chicken liver 402, garbanzo beans 356, fresh

sardines 343,

> black eyed peas 306, fresh salmon 289 ( 1976)

>

> My MTD copy is out on loan. Wolcott includes mussels (yum) and

herring in the

> protein type high purine foods. Hope this helps with variety

besides liver so

> you can get varied vitamins and minerals and still supply purine.

Salmon being

> the most costly.

>

> >

> >And as to the root canal, I thought garlic was an antimicrobial,

but you

> >don't think it will help at all? 

>

> Sorry I wasn't clear. Garlic will definitely help any remaining

infection as

> well as prevent.

>

> Wanita

[Guest guest]

Yes, Wanita, I'm even closer to you now, at UMass Amherst

I pay over a dollar for coconut milk and five something for Spectrum

" semi-refined " coconut oil. That cooperative sounds good! How do I get in???

Thanks,

Chris

____

" What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a

heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and

animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of

them make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense

compassion, which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to

bear the sight of the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature.

Thus they pray ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the

truth, and for those who do them wrong. "

--Saint Isaac the Syrian

[Guest guest]

Wanita,

As I was reading your reply, I thought I had the same stuff from Spectrum

Naturals. Mine says exactly the same as yours except the ingredients say 100%

expeller pressed refined coconut oil. What does your bottle look like?

----- Original Message -----

From: Wanita Sears

Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 12:34 PM

Subject: Re: too much liver?

At 11:34 AM 9/13/02 -0400, you wrote:

>Wow, thanks a lot Wanita. I have no idea if I'm a protein-type or not,

though

I do know that there's something in meat that I need, after two years of being

vegetarian, and that I feel best when I eat beef, and if I eat chicken instead

of beef for a week I can only make up for how I feel with the chicken soup.

Sounds like you're a protein type. The satiation from heavy or light foods is

part of typing.

>

>Anyway thanks a lot-- maybe there was a typo or something, but I

mustunderstood about the garlic. Thanks a bunch! Maybe it's not hopeless!!!

;-)

You're welcome, Chris. Thats what we're all here for. On my second garlic and

teeth post I wrote that I haven't had any tooth problems since adding coconut

milk/oil to my diet. Think that coconut and probiotics (yogurt, kefir) are

better prevention and healing than the former garlic, C & E.

Are you still in Western MA. now that you're back to college? I got 2 cases of

Thai Kitchen Pure Coconut Milk 5.5 oz. can for 59 cents a can through our

Northeast atives buying club on this months sale. Am going to get

more at

this price before the sale ends end of Sept. Also ordered a 12oz. jar of

Spectrum Coconut Oil that was listed as refined. I'd planned on using it in

homemade cleaners. When I got it it read unrefined. Label says Ingredients:

100% expeller pressed unrefined organic coconut oil. Our organic coconut

oil is

expeller pressed without hexane or other harmful chemicals, and processed

according to strict organic standards. No preservatives added. I couldn't tell

the difference between it and the sample I got from coconut info. Price

difference is about half less.

Wanita (who wishes her college daughter didn't find Easy Mac good)

[Guest guest]

At 11:34 AM 9/13/02 -0400, you wrote:

>Wow, thanks a lot Wanita.  I have no idea if I'm a protein-type or not,

though

I do know that there's something in meat that I need, after two years of being

vegetarian, and that I feel best when I eat beef, and if I eat chicken instead

of beef for a week I can only make up for how I feel with the chicken soup.

Sounds like you're a protein type. The satiation from heavy or light foods is

part of typing.

>

>Anyway thanks a lot-- maybe there was a typo or something, but I

mustunderstood about the garlic.  Thanks a bunch!  Maybe it's not hopeless!!!

;-)

You're welcome, Chris. Thats what we're all here for. On my second garlic and

teeth post I wrote that I haven't had any tooth problems since adding coconut

milk/oil to my diet. Think that coconut and probiotics (yogurt, kefir) are

better prevention and healing than the former garlic, C & E.

Are you still in Western MA. now that you're back to college? I got 2 cases of

Thai Kitchen Pure Coconut Milk 5.5 oz. can for 59 cents a can through our

Northeast atives buying club on this months sale. Am going to get

more at

this price before the sale ends end of Sept. Also ordered a 12oz. jar of

Spectrum Coconut Oil that was listed as refined. I'd planned on using it in

homemade cleaners. When I got it it read unrefined. Label says Ingredients:

100% expeller pressed unrefined organic coconut oil. Our organic coconut

oil is

expeller pressed without hexane or other harmful chemicals, and processed

according to strict organic standards. No preservatives added. I couldn't tell

the difference between it and the sample I got from coconut info. Price

difference is about half less.

Wanita (who wishes her college daughter didn't find Easy Mac good)

[Guest guest]

At 11:27 AM 9/15/02 -0600, you wrote:

>Wanita,

>

>As I was reading your reply, I thought I had the same stuff from Spectrum

Naturals.  Mine says exactly the same as yours except the ingredients say 100%

expeller pressed refined coconut oil.  What does your bottle look like?

>

>

My bottle looks like a canning jar, . Its 14 oz. and the ingredient is

100% expeller pressed " unrefined " organic coconut oil. Its been on my counter

and has solidified and melted with temp change. Front label says unrefined for

full flavor use. Looks like they're in the process of switching over to an all

unrefined and organic product and its hit or miss like Thai Kitchen (goin in

the opposite direction) too through our cooperative buying club catalog.

Wanita

[Guest guest]

At 05:09 PM 9/13/02 +0000, Sheila wrote:

Hi Sheila,

>This information about purines is fascinating.

I agree. Nature put a very important ingredient to longevity in many

traditional foods available all over the planet to many cultures.

>Do you know exactly what the numerical reference after each food represents?

Is it mg's.

No, I don't other than its the amount of nucleic acid from the RNA of the

individual food.

 

>Do you know the amount(volume or weight) of each ingredient, i.e., 1/2 cup or

a pound?

More than likely per serving. Lit cited gives

, 1976 Nucleic acid therapy of aging and degenerative disease,

3rd edition Lisbon:Fiquima

, 1987 Doctor 's no-aging diet The Dial Press, New York

>What is RNA?

Ribonucleic acid, it's processes with DNA and produces energy.

I'm on the last chapter and here's more on purines.

Metabolic Man, 10,000 Years from Eden pgs. 304-305

Proteins are more easily identified. Figure 60 (footnote posted earlier in

table form)will help you identify the sources of those special proteins that

are purine-rich, which fast oxidizers need to eat and slow oxidizers need to

downplay. In addition to the foods shown in figure 60, other foods are good

sources of the RNA provided by purine-rich proteins: Meat

extract,nuts,dark-meat poultry,spinach,oatmeal,asparagus,mushrooms and onions.

Beets in all forms including borscht,are excellent in that they induce

cellular

RNA synthesis ( 1976)

Wanita

>

>Footnote: According to the table published by , foods with the

>highest

>content of nucleic acid (analyzed from RNA)are canned sardines 590,

>pinto

>beans

>485, lentils 484, chicken liver 402, garbanzo beans 356, fresh

>sardines 343,

>black eyed peas 306, fresh salmon 289 ( 1976)

>

>

>

>

>

>

>> >Hi

>> >

>> >Thankyou-- but I'm confused on a couple points.  What exactly are

>purines,

>> >and are you saying that sources of purines can replace organ meats?

>>

>> From pg. 207 Metabolic Man, 10,000 Years from Eden.

>>

>> makes particular reference to another class of proteins he

>calls

>> " nucleoproteins. " These are the valuable nucleotide bases adenine,

>guanine,

>> cytosine, thymine and uracil. The first four comprise the the

>genetic code of

>> DNA. Their availability is critical to one's total personality

>strength.

>> watson

>> considers the most important of these bases to be adenine and

>guanine (called

>> by chemists " purines " ) Elsewhere we discuss " purine-rich " proteins

>such as

>> herring, mussels and sardines.

>> 

>> The information storage and message conveyance system of cells is

>made up of

>> various kinds of nucleic acids. As you may be aware, one of

>these,the famed

>> DNA( deoxyribonucleic acid)in the cell nucleus issues precise

>instructions as

>> to what kinds of cells to make and where to make them. Another

>nucleic acid

>> such as mRNA (ribonucleic acid, where uracil substitutes for

>thymine) carries

>> messages from the blueprint DNA throughout the cell.

>>

>> Unfortunately, the quality of these nucleic acids seems to

>deteriorate with

>> age. Along comes (M.D. 1975,1976) credited with

>bringing to our

>> attention the novel discovery that high quality DNA and RNA can be

>supplied

>> our

>> cells from outside the body to enable us to stay healthier for

>longer than

>> expected from the general experience of the human race.

>>

>> It so happens the nucleotide basesform the rungs in the spiral

>staircaseof the

>> DNA molecule as well as the links by which RNA copies their

>sequence (message)

>> by which tasks within the cell are carried out. All this is powered

>within the

>> citric acid cycle in which a special compound, ATP, loses a

>phosphate and

>> becomes ADP, which becomes ATP again, over and over. Nucleic acids

>in the diet

>> apparentlyincrease ATP productivity, which is of course, the

>ultimate energy

>> source for running our bodies.

>> 

>> Since the nucleic acid content of foods is of great value in the

>critical

>> citric (Krebs) cycle where the bulk  of cellular energyis produced,

>only with

>> this cycle operating at peak efficiency can you slow down the aging

>process

>> and

>> combat degenerative diseases. This is the legacy handed down by men

>like

>>

>> and his contemporary, .

>>

>> Footnote: According to the table published by , foods with the

>highest

>> content of nucleic acid (analyzed from RNA)are canned sardines 590,

>pinto

>> beans

>> 485, lentils 484, chicken liver 402, garbanzo beans 356, fresh

>sardines 343,

>> black eyed peas 306, fresh salmon 289 ( 1976)

>>

>> My MTD copy is out on loan. Wolcott includes mussels (yum) and

>herring in the

>> protein type high purine foods. Hope this helps with variety

>besides liver so

>> you can get varied vitamins and minerals and still supply purine.

>Salmon being

>> the most costly.

>>

>> >

>> >And as to the root canal, I thought garlic was an antimicrobial,

>but you

>> >don't think it will help at all? 

>>

>> Sorry I wasn't clear. Garlic will definitely help any remaining

>infection as

>> well as prevent.

>>

>> Wanita

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Wanita,

Thank you for answering my questions. I will emphasize these foods

more in my daily diet. I rarely eat pinto beans, but they are my

favorite dried bean. I think they have the most flavor of all the

dried beans. Perhaps they are tasty becuase Mama Nature, in all her

wisdom wanted us to eat more of them so we would have more energy

derived from those wonderful purines.

I tried to get Metabolic Man through the library interlibrary loan,

but it was impossible. I appreciate your puting information from this

book, as well as other books, on line.

I just thought of something. Isn't it purines that can cause flareups

of gout? Would these foods react in other forms of arthritis? Signing

off with another question!

Sheila

> >> >Hi

> >> >

> >> >Thankyou-- but I'm confused on a couple points.  What exactly

are

> >purines,

> >> >and are you saying that sources of purines can replace organ

meats?

> >>

> >> From pg. 207 Metabolic Man, 10,000 Years from Eden.

> >>

> >> makes particular reference to another class of proteins

he

> >calls

> >> " nucleoproteins. " These are the valuable nucleotide bases

adenine,

> >guanine,

> >> cytosine, thymine and uracil. The first four comprise the the

> >genetic code of

> >> DNA. Their availability is critical to one's total personality

> >strength.

> >> watson

> >> considers the most important of these bases to be adenine and

> >guanine (called

> >> by chemists " purines " ) Elsewhere we discuss " purine-rich "

proteins

> >such as

> >> herring, mussels and sardines.

> >> 

> >> The information storage and message conveyance system of cells

is

> >made up of

> >> various kinds of nucleic acids. As you may be aware, one of

> >these,the famed

> >> DNA( deoxyribonucleic acid)in the cell nucleus issues precise

> >instructions as

> >> to what kinds of cells to make and where to make them. Another

> >nucleic acid

> >> such as mRNA (ribonucleic acid, where uracil substitutes for

> >thymine) carries

> >> messages from the blueprint DNA throughout the cell.

> >>

> >> Unfortunately, the quality of these nucleic acids seems to

> >deteriorate with

> >> age. Along comes (M.D. 1975,1976) credited with

> >bringing to our

> >> attention the novel discovery that high quality DNA and RNA can

be

> >supplied

> >> our

> >> cells from outside the body to enable us to stay healthier for

> >longer than

> >> expected from the general experience of the human race.

> >>

> >> It so happens the nucleotide basesform the rungs in the spiral

> >staircaseof the

> >> DNA molecule as well as the links by which RNA copies their

> >sequence (message)

> >> by which tasks within the cell are carried out. All this is

powered

> >within the

> >> citric acid cycle in which a special compound, ATP, loses a

> >phosphate and

> >> becomes ADP, which becomes ATP again, over and over. Nucleic

acids

> >in the diet

> >> apparentlyincrease ATP productivity, which is of course, the

> >ultimate energy

> >> source for running our bodies.

> >> 

> >> Since the nucleic acid content of foods is of great value in the

> >critical

> >> citric (Krebs) cycle where the bulk  of cellular energyis

produced,

> >only with

> >> this cycle operating at peak efficiency can you slow down the

aging

> >process

> >> and

> >> combat degenerative diseases. This is the legacy handed down by

men

> >like

> >>

> >> and his contemporary, .

> >>

> >> Footnote: According to the table published by , foods with

the

> >highest

> >> content of nucleic acid (analyzed from RNA)are canned sardines

590,

> >pinto

> >> beans

> >> 485, lentils 484, chicken liver 402, garbanzo beans 356, fresh

> >sardines 343,

> >> black eyed peas 306, fresh salmon 289 ( 1976)

> >>

> >> My MTD copy is out on loan. Wolcott includes mussels (yum) and

> >herring in the

> >> protein type high purine foods. Hope this helps with variety

> >besides liver so

> >> you can get varied vitamins and minerals and still supply

purine.

> >Salmon being

> >> the most costly.

> >>

> >> >

> >> >And as to the root canal, I thought garlic was an

antimicrobial,

> >but you

> >> >don't think it will help at all? 

> >>

> >> Sorry I wasn't clear. Garlic will definitely help any remaining

> >infection as

> >> well as prevent.

> >>

> >> Wanita

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

At 05:24 PM 9/16/02 +0000, you wrote:

Isn't it purines that can cause flareups

>of gout? Would these foods react in other forms of arthritis?

>Sheila

Gout and prescribed purine elimination diet was mentioned along with are these

be true carbo types eating out of type. From what I understand protein types

(fast oxidizers) process whats considered acid foods to alkaline blood. Carbo

or mixed carbos rather than mixed protein eating more in the protein side

would

develop acidity, inflammation, deposits because of wrong diet/supplements and

arthritis.

Wanita

[Guest guest]

Is there a test for metabolic type somewhere on the internet or

should I find a book on the subject? Is the testing easy to

understand? Do you think it is a valid and useful test? I don't

understand how it can be all that helpful when so many people are a

mixture of many nationalities. In fact the more diverse the

nationalities the more difficult it would become to be one certain

metabolic type? Does this make any sense to you?

Sheila

> Isn't it purines that can cause flareups

> >of gout? Would these foods react in other forms of arthritis?

> >Sheila

>

> Gout and prescribed purine elimination diet was mentioned along

with are these

> be true carbo types eating out of type. From what I understand

protein types

> (fast oxidizers) process whats considered acid foods to alkaline

blood. Carbo

> or mixed carbos rather than mixed protein eating more in the

protein side

> would

> develop acidity, inflammation, deposits because of wrong

diet/supplements and

> arthritis.

> Wanita

[Guest guest]

At 07:07 PM 9/16/02 +0000, Sheila wrote:

>Is there a test for metabolic type somewhere on the internet or

>should I find a book on the subject?

The Metabolic Typing Diet is $10.47 at amazon.com It has a 65 question test

that will give you either protein, mixed or carbo type results along with

suggested foods and protein-fat-carb ratios to work from. There are further

medical tests you can get that can create up to 72 types, I believe. It can't

go into one book. Actually now that I've read Metabolic Man it should be read

first. Too bad you couldn't find it interlibrary loan.

>Is the testing easy to understand?

Yes, simple questions about food preferences, physiology and some body

tendencies. Clinicly up to 3000 questions are asked.

>Do you think it is a valid and useful test?

I think they've used the questions that are most likely to produce a result

closest to your type.

>I don't understand how it can be all that helpful when so many people are a

>mixture of many nationalities. In fact the more diverse the

>nationalities the more difficult it would become to be one certain

>metabolic type?

It doesn't give what foods your ancestry ate. It gives groupings by

macronutrient to choose from. The choice is yours. If you don't like it chose

another or if it doesn't agree chose another. The key I think is that if

you're

eating according to your type you won't crave non type foods and maybe non

ancestral. I've got Trace your Genes to Health on the way at piimaman's

suggestion. Who knows where that will lead.

Does this make any sense to you?

If it didn't make sense to me as science to indigenous knowledge I wouldn't

bother with it.

Wanita

[Guest guest]

Whos the author of " Trace YOur Genes to Health " & Metabloic Typing/Metabolic

Man " ? Sounds interesting, Chris

>From: Wanita Sears <wanitawa@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: Re: too much liver?

>Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 19:32:34 -0400

>

>At 07:07 PM 9/16/02 +0000, Sheila wrote:

>

> >Is there a test for metabolic type somewhere on the internet or

> >should I find a book on the subject?

>

>The Metabolic Typing Diet is $10.47 at amazon.com It has a 65 question test

>that will give you either protein, mixed or carbo type results along with

>suggested foods and protein-fat-carb ratios to work from. There are further

>medical tests you can get that can create up to 72 types, I believe. It

>can't

>go into one book. Actually now that I've read Metabolic Man it should be

>read

>first. Too bad you couldn't find it interlibrary loan.

>

> >Is the testing easy to understand?

>

>Yes, simple questions about food preferences, physiology and some body

>tendencies. Clinicly up to 3000 questions are asked.

>

> >Do you think it is a valid and useful test?

>

>I think they've used the questions that are most likely to produce a result

>closest to your type.

>

> >I don't understand how it can be all that helpful when so many people are

>a

> >mixture of many nationalities. In fact the more diverse the

> >nationalities the more difficult it would become to be one certain

> >metabolic type?

>

>It doesn't give what foods your ancestry ate. It gives groupings by

>macronutrient to choose from. The choice is yours. If you don't like it

>chose

>another or if it doesn't agree chose another. The key I think is that if

>you're

>eating according to your type you won't crave non type foods and maybe non

>ancestral. I've got Trace your Genes to Health on the way at piimaman's

>suggestion. Who knows where that will lead.

>

>Does this make any sense to you?

>

>If it didn't make sense to me as science to indigenous knowledge I wouldn't

>bother with it.

>

>Wanita

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

At 09:30 AM 9/18/02 +1000, you wrote:

>

>

>Whos the author of " Trace YOur Genes to Health " & Metabloic Typing/Metabolic

>Man " ? Sounds interesting, Chris

Hi

Metabolic Man, 10,000 Years from Eden is by Wharton

Metabolic Typing Diet is by Wolcott and Trish Fahey

Trace Your Genes to Health is by Reading and Ross Meillon, Reading

is an organic psychiatrist in Sydney Australia

Wanita