Re: Re: leaky gut and pregnancy

[Guest guest]

At 05:28 AM 9/14/2002 -0700, you wrote:

>I know I don't have celiac - I'm fine with wheat and

>other glutinous grains as long at they're sprouted.

>So, I guess you'd say that I've *figured* them out to

>some extent, but getting rid of them entirely is

>another story altogether.

>

>a

It's not so much " Celiac " as intolerances. You

can't tell easily by your reactions. When the

intolerances are really bad for many years

you can get celiac, but you can limp along

for many years with lower-level stuff. The only

method I know that works easily to detect them

is testing, if you can get done on insurance

(it's about $350 otherwise). Also anti-gliadin

antibody testing. It's a little bit like high blood

pressure or diabetes: there's no easy way to

know if you have a protein IgA or IgG immune

reaction. But if you are having gut problems,

the likelihood is high you have such a reaction

and/or bacterial/yeast imbalances, or lack of

enzymes.

Allergies usually get better when you are

pregnant, because your immune system scales

down. But you can still have absorption problems,

which can lead to pregnancy complications (which

in fact I had, on my second one).

And you are right, it's easier said than done! I

just wish I had known, when I was having babies,

what I know now (classic problem, huh?).

Heidi

[Guest guest]

At 07:52 AM 9/15/2002 -0700, you wrote:

>---------->I did have the IgG and IgA food

>allergy/intolerance test a few months ago.

Nice!

>Wheat

>didn't even register on the panel. What interested me

>was that Yeast did. Anyhow, since I've been reacting

>to commercial bread for years I just steer clear of

>wheat and yeast (unless, as I said before, the wheat

>is soaked and sprouted). Honestly, I rarely if ever

>touch commercial breads now anyhow, so it's not

>usually a problem in that sense.

I react to yeast too. Not the kefir yeast, for some

reason, which is why I like making beer from kefir ...

>The CDSA showed that I didn't have any absorption

>problems, which surprised me. Did you have problems

>with absorbtion before conceiving? How did you manage

>to stay healthy during the pregnancy?

I didn't stay healthy! I was a mess. But I didn't know what

was going on, and I'm still experimenting. I DO eat

kimchi with every meal now, and the bacteria and

enzymes in that seem to help a LOT. I also don't

eat much dairy (except kefir). I don't know if I had

absorption problems or not: the doctors here are

not really into that sort of thing: a naturepath

might have been, but I didn't know to ask.

I've had gut problems since I was 17 or so, and

I think now they were gluten-related. I also had

a wide variety of other problems. But, no doctor

thought to test for anything along those lines,

and once you stop eating gluten, it DOES NOT

show up on any test (i.e. if you are gluten sensitive,

and don't eat gluten, there is no current test

that will see if you are gluten sensitive or not!).

The bigger problem than the gluten is the

anti-gliadin (and other) antibodies that

your body can produce. They attack your

own (and maybe the fetus') body tissues. It's all

complicated and not well studied: but I think

that may be why my son had complications.

One such antibody is called an " antiendomysial

antibody " -- the endomysium is a connective tissue,

and the antibody destroys it. My son has

connective tissue problems, which caused a hernia

in him in utero. I have him (and me) off ALL gluten

now and his connective tissues seem to be getting

stronger. Gluten is probably not the only substance

that can cause this kind of problem, but it is

the most studied at this point.

Anyway, the only book I know of that covers

this is Dangerous Grains, which has lots of

references. They basically think grains in general

should be avoided (they don't like the high-starch

diet either). Wheat, soy, and corn are THE biggest

allergens, and yeast is right up there too (and casein

and eggs). I expect that fermenting (and eating lots

of live bacteria) break down a lot of the allergens

>though, and heal the gut so they don't cause so

>many problems. The problems mainly happen

>when the allergens leak into the blood, which they

>are not supposed to do.

>

>

Heidi