Re: pregnancy nausea and cod liver questions

[Guest guest]

Hello, i have two questions, one pertaining to pregnancy nausea and diet,

and the other to cod liver oil and omega 3. By the way, i am new to NT by

about 6 months and have not fully switched to that eating style, but am on

my way.

1) Does anyone know what, if any, the relationship between pregnancy nausea

and diet is? Is there an NT perspective? I am 10 weeks pregnant and have

experienced occasional mild nausea and tiredness, but overall feel great

compared to my last pregnancy (low-fat eating) where i was debilitated by

nausea. However last week for about four days i felt horribly nauseous and

fatigued, which started after eating a whole wheat spaghetti dinner. (A

month earlier i ate a spaghetti dinner and woke up at 4 a.m. to throw up.)

After recovering from the second spaghetti attack, I stupidly ate a big

pastry after a bread-y sandwich for lunch (forgive me, i live in Europe

surrounded by bakeries!) and the nausea started again for two days. I have

learned my lesson and think i should avoid these starchy foods. I am fine

after eating soaked or fermented spelt dough or whole grain cereal I prepare

at home. I'm just wondering if anyone has feedback on this, and what in

general is considered a good nausea-prevention approach to eating while

pregnant.

2) I finally got my cod liver oil capsules from Carlson Labs. NT says i

should take 3 tspns. a day. I'm thinking three Super 1000 mg (each with 2000

IU of Vit. A and 250 IU of Vit. D) is about equal. Can someone verify that?

I don't want to overdo it. Also, about a year ago before i heard of NT i

started taking an essential fatty acid (omega 3) supplement with amazing

results. But now i see my Super 1000 mg cod liver caps have a total of 240

mg of omega 3 per cap. Is that enough or should i supplement with fish oil?

We eat hardly any fish as it is hard to get fresh where we live.

By the way, i eat two soft boiled eggs daily, raw cream and butter,

pasture-fed beef, and i have just bought my first cut of pasture fed liver

(i'm a little nervous about that!). It is easy to get this kind of food

where i live in Switz. and i only hope it to be also to be so in Portland

Oregon!!!

Sorry this is so long. I'm very excited to have found this group. I am a

refugee from a natural parenting group where war broke out from the vegans

and vegetarians when some of us started discussing NT and Weston Price.

Many thanks,

Elaine

[Guest guest]

In Your Body's Many Cries for Water, it is suggested that nausea can be

cured with water, because morning sickness is a form of dehydration. I have

not tried it (since I am not pregnant) but the doctor claims it is very

effective.

If you think about it it makes sense as you would need a lot of extra water

for the development of the baby. If nothing else, it can't hurt!

Kat

http://www.katking.com

----- Original Message -----

From: " Elaine " <emarshall@...>

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Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 5:43 PM

Subject: Re: pregnancy nausea and cod liver questions

> Hello, i have two questions, one pertaining to pregnancy nausea and diet,

> and the other to cod liver oil and omega 3. By the way, i am new to NT by

> about 6 months and have not fully switched to that eating style, but am on

> my way.

>

> 1) Does anyone know what, if any, the relationship between pregnancy

nausea

> and diet is? Is there an NT perspective? I am 10 weeks pregnant and have

> experienced occasional mild nausea and tiredness, but overall feel great

> compared to my last pregnancy (low-fat eating) where i was debilitated by

> nausea. However last week for about four days i felt horribly nauseous and

> fatigued, which started after eating a whole wheat spaghetti dinner. (A

> month earlier i ate a spaghetti dinner and woke up at 4 a.m. to throw up.)

> After recovering from the second spaghetti attack, I stupidly ate a big

> pastry after a bread-y sandwich for lunch (forgive me, i live in Europe

> surrounded by bakeries!) and the nausea started again for two days. I have

> learned my lesson and think i should avoid these starchy foods. I am fine

> after eating soaked or fermented spelt dough or whole grain cereal I

prepare

> at home. I'm just wondering if anyone has feedback on this, and what in

> general is considered a good nausea-prevention approach to eating while

> pregnant.

>

> 2) I finally got my cod liver oil capsules from Carlson Labs. NT says i

> should take 3 tspns. a day. I'm thinking three Super 1000 mg (each with

2000

> IU of Vit. A and 250 IU of Vit. D) is about equal. Can someone verify

that?

> I don't want to overdo it. Also, about a year ago before i heard of NT i

> started taking an essential fatty acid (omega 3) supplement with amazing

> results. But now i see my Super 1000 mg cod liver caps have a total of

240

> mg of omega 3 per cap. Is that enough or should i supplement with fish

oil?

> We eat hardly any fish as it is hard to get fresh where we live.

>

> By the way, i eat two soft boiled eggs daily, raw cream and butter,

> pasture-fed beef, and i have just bought my first cut of pasture fed liver

> (i'm a little nervous about that!). It is easy to get this kind of food

> where i live in Switz. and i only hope it to be also to be so in Portland

> Oregon!!!

>

> Sorry this is so long. I'm very excited to have found this group. I am a

> refugee from a natural parenting group where war broke out from the vegans

> and vegetarians when some of us started discussing NT and Weston Price.

>

> Many thanks,

> Elaine

[Guest guest]

Hello Elaine,

I am also ten weeks pregnant. This is my second pregnancy, and I feel way

better this time, and I believe it is because of the changes I made in my

diet. With my first, I ate *tons* of bread and pasta and crackers, etc. I

also ate lots of pasteurized dairy. I drank like 2 quarts of lowfat lactaid

a day because I could not hold down any other liquids. I was very sick the

whole nine months. When I would feel sick, I would eat bread or crackers,

and I would feel better for a little while, but then the nausea would return

with double force a little while later. It turns out I have celiacs

disease.

This time around I don't eat any grains, starches, sugars except for

that found in fruits, certain veggies, raw honey and occasional arrowroot

powder in sauces and stuff. I can drink water this time around too. I

think that nausea during pregnancy is a sign that the body has toxins of

which it needs to rid itself.

I have found that high protein/fat snacks are good for holding off

nausea. We make a very high fat pemmican that works really well for giving

energy, preventing nausea, etc. Anyway, congratulations and good luck on

preventing the nausea.

Rebekah

----- Original Message -----

From: " Elaine " <emarshall@...>

> 1) Does anyone know what, if any, the relationship between pregnancy

nausea

> and diet is? Is there an NT perspective? I am 10 weeks pregnant and have

> experienced occasional mild nausea and tiredness, but overall feel great

> compared to my last pregnancy (low-fat eating) where i was debilitated by

> nausea. However last week for about four days i felt horribly nauseous and

> fatigued, which started after eating a whole wheat spaghetti dinner. (A

> month earlier i ate a spaghetti dinner and woke up at 4 a.m. to throw up.)

> After recovering from the second spaghetti attack, I stupidly ate a big

> pastry after a bread-y sandwich for lunch (forgive me, i live in Europe

> surrounded by bakeries!) and the nausea started again for two days. I have

> learned my lesson and think i should avoid these starchy foods. I am fine

> after eating soaked or fermented spelt dough or whole grain cereal I

prepare

> at home. I'm just wondering if anyone has feedback on this, and what in

> general is considered a good nausea-prevention approach to eating while

> pregnant.

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Rebekah and congratulations to you too! Gosh, i hope starch

sensitivity doesn't mean i have celiacs disease. I have always been somewhat

sensitive to wheat in the way of bloating and feeling heavy, but i just

assumed that happened to everybody. Yesterday i ate a small bowl of organic

air dried pasta and again the nausea returned, so my experimentation is

complete!

I agree with nausea and toxins. I was also drinking alcohol regularly before

my first pregnancy and that was a factor. OK, well i'm going to read this

wheat-free posts with even more interest now that i am officially sensitive

to it.

Elaine

[Guest guest]

At 08:43 AM 9/11/2002 +0800, you wrote:

>1) Does anyone know what, if any, the relationship between pregnancy nausea

>and diet is? Is there an NT perspective? I am 10 weeks pregnant and have

>experienced occasional mild nausea and tiredness, but overall feel great

>compared to my last pregnancy (low-fat eating) where i was debilitated by

>nausea. However last week for about four days i felt horribly nauseous and

>fatigued, which started after eating a whole wheat spaghetti dinner. (A

>month earlier i ate a spaghetti dinner and woke up at 4 a.m. to throw up.)

>After recovering from the second spaghetti attack, I stupidly ate a big

>pastry after a bread-y sandwich for lunch (forgive me, i live in Europe

>surrounded by bakeries!)

I can say that my gluten problems really got bad while I was pregnant:

I got nauseated and stayed that way for a year AFTER I gave birth.

This is apparently pretty common. And I kept eating crackers because

the book said that was good for morning sickness!

You might try eating NO gluten (wheat, spelt) for a week and see

what happens. If you DO react to gluten, then this is bad news

for the baby, so it's worth checking out (it can cause early

miscarriage). You can get an anti-gliadin test at your doctors

to check it out too (which may be easier than avoiding wheat

for a week). It's a pretty common problem (my book says

20% of the American population) and fairly easily fixed. Your

gut changes when you are pregnant: the food stays longer

and it absorbs more (so you are more prone to leaky gut

maybe???).

My Mom also swore by B12 shots when she was pregnant,

for morning sickness, but I don't know if the doctors

are doing that anymore.

Heidi

[Guest guest]

At 07:42 AM 9/12/02 +0800, you wrote:

Yesterday i ate a small bowl of organic

>air dried pasta and again the nausea returned, so my experimentation is

>complete!

>Elaine

Read in Metabolic Man, 10,000 Years from Eden last night that pregnancy nausea

is to stop you from eating what you shouldn't. My first had it daily for first

trimester. Was probably trying to stop my morning coffee but I suffered

through

it and didn't learn about the cracker remedy till after. Second I was ready

but

felt like a million dollars throughout.

Wanita