Re: Re: My liver detox experience: Bladder Stones

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I have read that the so called stones aren't really

stones at all, but saponified oil. It would be

interesting if someone doing this flush would send one

of these so called stones to Smokey Labs in N.

Carolina or some other lab for analysis.

Also, I just spoke with someone who has an almond

sized bladder stone. The M.D. told him that they will

have to remove it surgically, but going through his

penis. But, there is a l in 20 chance of him becoming

impotent from this procedure. Does anyone know of an

alternative procedure to this? Anyone ever heard of a

bladder stone disolving or breaking up from a cleanse?

Any one know of an alternative Dr. that has dealt with

this issue?

Thank you in advance.

--- Irene Musiol <irene@...> wrote:

> I am not so sure the little green things are really

> " Liver stones " . Once I

> did a cleanse and got lazy and didn't do the epsom

> salts the following day.

> I got a " stone " the size of a walnut. I really dont

> think that came out of

> my liver. I suspect that is saponified oil and I

> suspect the small stones

> are also saponified oil. However I still believe

> that the cleanse helps

> detoxify the liver and makes people feel better. I

> always feel better after

> doing one. I just dont' believe the stuff about

> the stones being gall stones.

>

> Irene

>

> At 02:14 PM 8/29/02, you wrote:

> >HI SHEILA,

> >

> >

> > > Hi Kat,

> > > I am glad you had a positive experience. I wish

> I could say the same.

> > > My doctor was surprised I got so ill. > > Do you

> know why some people get

> >ill with the detox and others do not? > I thought

> this informaton might be

> >in Hulda 's book.

> >HULDA STATES OVER AND OVER THAT WE NEED TO KILL ALL

> PARASITES BEFORE WE DO

> >A LIVER CLEANSE. THESE PARASITES HANG ON LIKE A

> TICK, THEY BURROW IN, AND

> >LIVE IN THE DUCTS WHERE YOU ARE TRYING TO EXPELL

> THE STONES. THE STONES

> >CAN'T GET OUT, THE PRESSURE BUILDS UP, AND I WOULD

> GUESS THAT IS WHY YOU GOT

> >SO ILL. SOUNDS HORRIBLE!

> >

> >

> > > Are the green stones really stones or clumps of

> cholesterol? I

> > > thought the stones were a different color than

> green.

> >THIS SEEMS SO GROSS TO TALK ABOUT, BUT HERE IT IS.

> THE STONES ARE

> >BIG.....BIGGER THAN PEAS (WHICH MEANS THE DUCTS

> MUST BE A LOT BIGGER THAN I

> >THOUGHT!) AND THEY ARE INDEED VERY GREEN. SOME ARE

> ALMOST A NEON COLOR.

> >

> >HEALTHY PEOPLE, AND EVEN SOME CHILDREN, HAVE

> THOUSANDS AND THOUANDS OF THESE

> >STONES. WHEN WE GET ILL WE HAVE MANY MORE.

> >

> >ACCORDING TO HULDA, ONLY A SMALL PERCENTAGE WILL BE

> RELEASED ON EACH LIVER

> >CLEANSE. THAT WE NEED TO CLEANSE EVERY 2 WEEKS

> (UNLESS WE ARE VERY ILL,

> >PREGNANT, OR NURSING) FOR A MINIMUM OF 6 TIMES.

> ONLY THEN DO WE GET THE

> >FULL BENEFIT. THEN THIS SHOULD BE REPEATED EVERY 6

> MONTHS.

> >

> >I AM SO GRATEFUL I TOOK ALL THE STEPS AND THAT

> THERE WERE NO PROBLEMS AND

> >THAT I DID NOT FIND THE DRINKS HORRIBLE (I ACTUALLY

> KIND OF LIKED IT!).

> >

> >I PLAN TO FOLLOW DIRECTIONS AND TO REPEAT THIS

> EVERY 2 WEEKS FOR A MINIMUM

> >OF 6 TIMES.

> >

> >TAKE CARE,

> >

> >Kat

> ><http://www.katking.com>http://www.katking.com

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > > Hi Den,

> > > >

> > > > I did the Hulda liver detox

> yesterday/last night and let me

> > > tell you,

> > > > if you decide to do this you will be amazed. I

> got out lots of

> > > green stones.

> > > >

> > > > I have known about this for years, in fact I

> met Hulda about 8

> > > years ago. I

> > > > now know I was wrong to listen to those who

> said it was not safe or

> > > that it

> > > > was going to be horrendously painful. Oh

> well, one of these days

> > > I will

> > > > learn.

> > > >

> > > > I did all she said, detoxed my colon, kidneys

> and did a parasite

> > > cleanse

> > > > first. I also own a Royal Rife Frequency

> machine that kills

> > > the " bad "

> > > > bacteria. So I prepped for almost a week.

> Also because I do all

> > > these

> > > > things on a regular basis I did not think I

> needed to do the liver

> > > cleanse

> > > > (wrong again).

> > > >

> > > > There was almost no discomfort. For the most

> part it was very

> > > painless,

> > > > just a bit of diarrhea and headache. Most

> people said the olive

> > > oil with

> > > > grapefruit would be horrible to gag down. I

> got a pink grapefruit,

> > > squeezed

> > > > in 1/2 of a large lemon, poured in a little

> more than 1/2 cup of

> > > the really

> > > > good, and fragrant virgin olive oil that came

> from the first

> > > press. It was

> > > > actually kind of good!

> > > >

> > > > The Epson salt is the worst tasting, but I did

> not dissolve it in

> > > water. I

> > > > took it in its crystal form like I would a

> vitamin, and washed it

> > > down with

> > > > plenty of water.

> > > >

> > > > BTW, fiber would NOT be appropriate for a

> liver cleanse. You want

> > > to get

> > > > these things dislodged from liver and gall

> bladder and out of your

> > > system

> > > > ASAP!

> > > >

> > > > All in all I am very pleased with this, and

> plan to do as her book

> > > (A Cure

> > > > For All Diseases) suggests and repeat every 2

> weeks until I feel

> > > clear.

> > > >

> > > > Take care!

> > > >

> > > > Kat

> > > > <http://www.katking.com>http://www.katking.com

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > > From: " Den t " <den@i...>

> > > > < @y...>

> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 4:52 AM

> > > > Subject: Re: My liver detox

> experience

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Hi Suze

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes I agree. Fibre speeds up your normal

> transit time and helps

> > > to removes

> > > > > toxins and debis from your GI, (I use it

> regualrly for this too)

> > > but the

> > > > > laxative in the specific case of the liver

> detox is to get that

> > > stuff out

> > > > of

> > > > > there as quickly as possible to prevent

> reabsorbtion in the gut.

> > > The info

> > > > I

> > > > > read on this was very specific about it and

> about not trying the

> > > liver

> > > > detox

> > > > > without the laxative. I think if you used

> fibre instead of the

> > > laxative

> > > > you'd

> > > > > increase the time the toxins were in the GI,

> because even if it's

> > > faster

> > > > than

> > > > > normal transit time it's still a lot slower

> than a laxative, and

> > > therefore

>

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