Guest guest Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 You have to know those who were/are critical of it and and were at the time and much they could say, and did say (and there were few around and aware who were vocal at that time - I was aware and teaching about it but didn't know the others involved) Talk to , , Marge Grant, Dr Mendelsohn (can't talk to him now) They all tried to talk her out of it - I have copies of letters that aren't originally mine to share It could have been that the united resolve across the movement would have been enough to have had the legislation scrapped, and the old system would have been what remained. It could also be argued that the legislation that we have today would have been the result anyway. Either way, it couldn’t be worse than it is now. When I first started questioning things about this law and NVIC involvement, I dug deeper and found much that wasn't pretty. Some of this is in Marge Grant's book, A Stolen Life http://dptshots.com/aboutauthor.html From page 128 A Stolen Life by Marge Grant.... " Not only were trusting families who supported and became members of NVIC led to believe this law would force the production of only safe and effective vaccines and would legally demand accurate reporting and recording of vaccine-adverse reactions - they were also led to believe that hurt children would receive fair and simple justice and be adequately compensated in a timely manner. Not so. None of these promises have been delivered with the enactment of the law. Many vaccine-injured children are excluded from the highly restrictive compensation program. This serves to validate the government's assertion that vaccine injuries and deaths are a myth and almost non-existent. Even worse, as I and other critics of this law predicted and repeatedly testified in various congressional hearings, this law would literally provide the vaccine manufacturers, regulators, and administrators with a license to maim and kill. " Some discussion here: http://www.ageofautism.com/2010/07/show-me-that-vaccines-are-safe-the-importance-of-the-supreme-court-bruesewitz-v-wyeth.html ************ from , Vaccine Dangers activist in NZ http://www.exploringvaccines.com/?p=591 In it, is detailed the FACTS that Jeff Schwartz, Barbara Loe Fisher were not only party to the legislation, but supported it with ardent fervour in the face of opposition by every other questioning individual in the country. Those individuals included (amongst others) Marge Grant, of Wisconsin www.dptshot.com and Dr J . Many others, including myself from afar, not only opposed the Bill, but wrote to Barbara Loe Fisher, Jeff Schwartz, and others at the time pointing out the folly of such a move. Such was the rancour created by the unwillingness of Barbara Loe Fisher and Jeff Swartz to listen to anyone, that Dr Mendelsohn wrote in a letter dated June 30, 1983 to Marge Grant the following: “…nothing can make me more dissatisfied with the leadership of “Dissatisfied Parents Together” than attempts on their part to cozy up to our common opposition.” I can supply scans of all documents and more, on request. It will be interesting to see whether or not, in the interests of the whole truth, Age of Autism publishes this response. It is useful to remember that sometimes, in unjustly pointing only one finger, three are pointed in an opposite direction. . www.beyondconformity.org.nz ************* http://www.ageofautism.com/2008/10/congressman-hen.html " The 1986 law was really enacted to save the existing vaccine program from collapsing. At the time, the CDC's official schedule included 10 total vaccines that children were recommended to receive by the age of 5. But, as the Texas article revealed (and the shot records of most kids born in the early 80s would corroborate) children were vaccinated with less regularity, when they were much older, and with even fewer vaccines than the recommended schedule. Not one proponent of the bill advocated a need to motivate manufacturers to create NEW vaccines or ever cited anywhere that we were experiencing an epidemic of diseases for which we did not yet have vaccines – this notion had nothing to do with why the bill was passed. And yet, as we all know, the passing of the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act in 1986 was a watershed moment for the vaccine industry, unleashing two decades of escalating vaccine mandates, culminating in the bloated, 36 shot schedule we have today for kids under 5. The act sheltered vaccine companies, and they turned their R & D budgets back on, figured out how to ensure they bought the bureaucrats who decided which vaccines are added to the schedule through the ACIP, turned vaccine development into a profit growth engine, and the rest is history. " *********** I would refer readers here to the following: 1) Volume 3, No.1, Spring 1987 DPT News. (forerunner of what is now NVIC.) Issue devoted to detailing the huge effort and struggle by Jeff Schwartz and Barbara Loe Fisher, and how they successfully countered the opposition of President Reagan, many in the senate, and indeed most of the pharmaceutical companies who were opposed to the legislation. Anyone who wants a copy, I will scan it. Email me via the site. 2) I refer you to the detailed proceedings found in the Hearing before the Committee on Labor and Human Resources, Ninety Ninth congress, S. 827, July 18, 1985. In the bottom left corner are the number 52-313O. You can request this item from the Library of Congress. In it, is detailed the FACTS that Jeff Schwartz, Barbara Loe Fisher were not only party to the legislation, but supported it with ardent fervour in the face of opposition by every other questioning individual in the country. Those individuals included (amongst others) Marge Grant, of Wisconsin www.dptshot.com and Dr J . Many others, including myself from afar, not only opposed the Bill, but wrote to Barbara Loe Fisher, Jeff Schwartz, and others at the time pointing out the folly of such a move. Such was the rancour created by the unwillingness of Barbara Loe Fisher and Jeff Swartz to listen to anyone, that Dr Mendelsohn wrote in a letter dated June 30, 1983 to Marge Grant the following: " ...nothing can make me more dissatisfied with the leadership of " Dissatisfied Parents Together " than attempts on their part to cozy up to our common opposition. " I can supply scans of all documents and more, on request. It will be interesting to see whether or not, in the interests of the whole truth, Age of Autism publishes this response. It is useful to remember that sometimes, in unjustly pointing only one finger, three are pointed in an opposite direction. . www.beyondconformity.org.nz ************** No, I wasn't there but have talked to and seen letters from those who were. There is much that went on that I didn't know before Sheri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 You have to know those who were/are critical of it and and were at the time and much they could say, and did say (and there were few around and aware who were vocal at that time - I was aware and teaching about it but didn't know the others involved) Talk to , , Marge Grant, Dr Mendelsohn (can't talk to him now) They all tried to talk her out of it - I have copies of letters that aren't originally mine to share It could have been that the united resolve across the movement would have been enough to have had the legislation scrapped, and the old system would have been what remained. It could also be argued that the legislation that we have today would have been the result anyway. Either way, it couldn’t be worse than it is now. When I first started questioning things about this law and NVIC involvement, I dug deeper and found much that wasn't pretty. Some of this is in Marge Grant's book, A Stolen Life http://dptshots.com/aboutauthor.html From page 128 A Stolen Life by Marge Grant.... " Not only were trusting families who supported and became members of NVIC led to believe this law would force the production of only safe and effective vaccines and would legally demand accurate reporting and recording of vaccine-adverse reactions - they were also led to believe that hurt children would receive fair and simple justice and be adequately compensated in a timely manner. Not so. None of these promises have been delivered with the enactment of the law. Many vaccine-injured children are excluded from the highly restrictive compensation program. This serves to validate the government's assertion that vaccine injuries and deaths are a myth and almost non-existent. Even worse, as I and other critics of this law predicted and repeatedly testified in various congressional hearings, this law would literally provide the vaccine manufacturers, regulators, and administrators with a license to maim and kill. " Some discussion here: http://www.ageofautism.com/2010/07/show-me-that-vaccines-are-safe-the-importance-of-the-supreme-court-bruesewitz-v-wyeth.html ************ from , Vaccine Dangers activist in NZ http://www.exploringvaccines.com/?p=591 In it, is detailed the FACTS that Jeff Schwartz, Barbara Loe Fisher were not only party to the legislation, but supported it with ardent fervour in the face of opposition by every other questioning individual in the country. Those individuals included (amongst others) Marge Grant, of Wisconsin www.dptshot.com and Dr J . Many others, including myself from afar, not only opposed the Bill, but wrote to Barbara Loe Fisher, Jeff Schwartz, and others at the time pointing out the folly of such a move. Such was the rancour created by the unwillingness of Barbara Loe Fisher and Jeff Swartz to listen to anyone, that Dr Mendelsohn wrote in a letter dated June 30, 1983 to Marge Grant the following: “…nothing can make me more dissatisfied with the leadership of “Dissatisfied Parents Together” than attempts on their part to cozy up to our common opposition.” I can supply scans of all documents and more, on request. It will be interesting to see whether or not, in the interests of the whole truth, Age of Autism publishes this response. It is useful to remember that sometimes, in unjustly pointing only one finger, three are pointed in an opposite direction. . www.beyondconformity.org.nz ************* http://www.ageofautism.com/2008/10/congressman-hen.html " The 1986 law was really enacted to save the existing vaccine program from collapsing. At the time, the CDC's official schedule included 10 total vaccines that children were recommended to receive by the age of 5. But, as the Texas article revealed (and the shot records of most kids born in the early 80s would corroborate) children were vaccinated with less regularity, when they were much older, and with even fewer vaccines than the recommended schedule. Not one proponent of the bill advocated a need to motivate manufacturers to create NEW vaccines or ever cited anywhere that we were experiencing an epidemic of diseases for which we did not yet have vaccines – this notion had nothing to do with why the bill was passed. And yet, as we all know, the passing of the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act in 1986 was a watershed moment for the vaccine industry, unleashing two decades of escalating vaccine mandates, culminating in the bloated, 36 shot schedule we have today for kids under 5. The act sheltered vaccine companies, and they turned their R & D budgets back on, figured out how to ensure they bought the bureaucrats who decided which vaccines are added to the schedule through the ACIP, turned vaccine development into a profit growth engine, and the rest is history. " *********** I would refer readers here to the following: 1) Volume 3, No.1, Spring 1987 DPT News. (forerunner of what is now NVIC.) Issue devoted to detailing the huge effort and struggle by Jeff Schwartz and Barbara Loe Fisher, and how they successfully countered the opposition of President Reagan, many in the senate, and indeed most of the pharmaceutical companies who were opposed to the legislation. Anyone who wants a copy, I will scan it. Email me via the site. 2) I refer you to the detailed proceedings found in the Hearing before the Committee on Labor and Human Resources, Ninety Ninth congress, S. 827, July 18, 1985. In the bottom left corner are the number 52-313O. You can request this item from the Library of Congress. In it, is detailed the FACTS that Jeff Schwartz, Barbara Loe Fisher were not only party to the legislation, but supported it with ardent fervour in the face of opposition by every other questioning individual in the country. Those individuals included (amongst others) Marge Grant, of Wisconsin www.dptshot.com and Dr J . Many others, including myself from afar, not only opposed the Bill, but wrote to Barbara Loe Fisher, Jeff Schwartz, and others at the time pointing out the folly of such a move. Such was the rancour created by the unwillingness of Barbara Loe Fisher and Jeff Swartz to listen to anyone, that Dr Mendelsohn wrote in a letter dated June 30, 1983 to Marge Grant the following: " ...nothing can make me more dissatisfied with the leadership of " Dissatisfied Parents Together " than attempts on their part to cozy up to our common opposition. " I can supply scans of all documents and more, on request. It will be interesting to see whether or not, in the interests of the whole truth, Age of Autism publishes this response. It is useful to remember that sometimes, in unjustly pointing only one finger, three are pointed in an opposite direction. . www.beyondconformity.org.nz ************** No, I wasn't there but have talked to and seen letters from those who were. There is much that went on that I didn't know before Sheri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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