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I don't know about it being allergic, but my skin gets tight too after

cutting/peeling butternut squash too. In fact I made some soup today and it

happened. I'm not allergic to it though.

piimaman

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Hi Chris:

.. If

> they are, I think maybe it is safe to eat the squash, since I never had a

> reaction to eating it but only handling it. But I wonder if there is a

> chance that there is something different about this particular squash or

my

> body chemistry at this time, and that I might have a reaction to it.

>

> Does anyone have any idea what might be going on and whether I should eat

it

> or not?

>

There are some survival manuals that help you determine whether certain

foods in the wild are safe to eat. One test is to place it on your skin

like the inside of your arm. If you react to it, it's advised that you

*not* eat it. I would think it would still apply in the kitchen? Maybe you

might like to substitute another squash in your meal?

Marla

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In a message dated 9/28/02 10:04:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

wanitawa@... writes:

> an oven what I do is halve them, take the seeds out, place in a pan with

> about

> an inch of water in it, cover and bake at 350 for 45 mins to a hour. You

can

> then easily separate the squash from the peel without the skin contact of

> peeling before.

That's interesting, thanks. I ended up eating it because I had nothing to go

with my hamburger, and I didn't have any reaction. That's really interesting

that we all have the same reaction to butternut squash re the skin thing.

Chris

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heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and

animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of

them make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense

compassion, which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to

bear the sight of the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature.

Thus they pray ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the

truth, and for those who do them wrong. "

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My hands always get tight after peeling butternut squash too. If I'm doing

more

than one theres almost a scale that only washes off with scrubbing. Its from

the moisture that forms as you're peeling and handling the squash. Can

sometimes see it below the peel. Its never affected me otherwise. If you've

got

an oven what I do is halve them, take the seeds out, place in a pan with about

an inch of water in it, cover and bake at 350 for 45 mins to a hour. You can

then easily separate the squash from the peel without the skin contact of

peeling before.

Wanita

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When I handle raw shrimp my hands turn red and itch like mad. I was

told it isn't the shrimp I react to, but rather the preserving

solution the shrimp are rinsed in before shipping. This made me

wonder if the squash is coated with something waxy, or even a thin

chemical used in the fields before harvesting, which causes a

allergic reaction. I'm only guessing. I have been chemically

sensitive and often look for those sorts of sources when i get a

reaction. Of course if you pick your own butternut squash from your

own organic garden then I'm totally off base.

Sheila

> In a message dated 9/28/02 10:04:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> wanitawa@b... writes:

>

> > an oven what I do is halve them, take the seeds out, place in a

pan with

> > about

> > an inch of water in it, cover and bake at 350 for 45 mins to a

hour. You

> can

> > then easily separate the squash from the peel without the skin

contact of

> > peeling before.

>

> That's interesting, thanks. I ended up eating it because I had

nothing to go

> with my hamburger, and I didn't have any reaction. That's really

interesting

> that we all have the same reaction to butternut squash re the skin

thing.

>

> Chris

>

> ____

>

> " What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion?

It is a

> heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings,

birds, and

> animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the

sight of

> them make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and

intense

> compassion, which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them

unable to

> bear the sight of the smallest, most insignificant wound in any

creature.

> Thus they pray ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for

enemies of the

> truth, and for those who do them wrong. "

>

> --Saint Isaac the Syrian

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Our beef raiser also raises a field of butternut squash that they peel and

sell

to local restaurants and private schools throughout the winter. He was here

last year in early fall and noticed my squash were near picking. Told me he

and

other growers go through their fields a few weeks before harvesting breaking

the vine leaving a short stem top. This hardens the skin for storage, finishes

the ripening by locking the flavor in and makes it real easy to gather them up

quickly if an early frost comes. If you break off stem at the squash you get

moisture beads there. Think this is what is produced as you peel it too. Any

squash without a stem end won't keep and should be used immediately. Talked to

a pumpkin raiser recently who said with pumpkins few weeks before harvest the

vines are trampled to simulate frost killing the vines to ripen. I usually get

a bushel of butternut squash to go through the winter if I don't grow it.

Noticed last year mid winter that all the butternut in the stores was labeled

from Honduras and there was visible waxing of the peel.

Wanita

P.S. Pretty sure our friend that raises has made up a kind of lathe that peels

the squash but will try to remember to ask about their hands. I don't like the

tight feeling and thats why I bake it instead with peel.

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The raw flesh of butternut squash does contain a skin irritant. I

have been trying to find more information in my nutrition notes on

this for you but cannot seem to find it. Might want to try e-mailing

the gardeners at Seeds of change. Their web site is Seedsofchange.com

Hope that helps.

Warm Regrads,

Bethanne Elion

Poultney, Vermont

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In a message dated 9/29/02 12:02:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

h2ocolor@... writes:

> When I handle raw shrimp my hands turn red and itch like mad. I was

> told it isn't the shrimp I react to, but rather the preserving

> solution the shrimp are rinsed in before shipping. This made me

> wonder if the squash is coated with something waxy, or even a thin

> chemical used in the fields before harvesting, which causes a

> allergic reaction. I'm only guessing. I have been chemically

> sensitive and often look for those sorts of sources when i get a

> reaction. Of course if you pick your own butternut squash from your

> own organic garden then I'm totally off base.

Wow! The same thing happened to me _real_ bad once when I handled shrimp at

a dishwashing/food prep job a few years back, and I always just assumed I was

really allergic to shrimp and so have never eaten them. Maybe I'm not! And

actually, the reaction I had to the bn squash was exactly the same reaction.

However, it comes from my grandparents garden. They aren't organic freaks or

anything, but I'm pretty sure my grandfather doesn't put funny chemicals on

the stuff, he generally tries to do more or less organic. Hmm...

Chris

____

" What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a

heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and

animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of

them make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense

compassion, which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to

bear the sight of the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature.

Thus they pray ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the

truth, and for those who do them wrong. "

--Saint Isaac the Syrian

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Just did a google search on skin irritant butternut squash. Were a few hits

with severe to moderate as an irritant but not what it was. Seems to depend on

person. I've peeled half a dozen at once and never had more than a buildup

that

is difficult to get off in one hand wash if its starts to dry.

Wanita

At 10:05 AM 9/29/02 -0400, you wrote:

>

>The raw flesh of butternut squash does contain a skin irritant. I

>have been trying to find more information in my nutrition notes on

>this for you but cannot seem to find it. Might want to try e-mailing

>the gardeners at Seeds of change. Their web site is Seedsofchange.com

>

>Hope that helps.

>

>Warm Regrads,

>

>Bethanne Elion

>Poultney, Vermont

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At 03:43 PM 9/29/02 -0400, you wrote:

>In a message dated 9/29/02 12:02:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

>h2ocolor@... writes:

>

>>  When I handle raw shrimp my hands turn red and itch like mad. I was

>>  told it isn't the shrimp I react to, but rather the preserving

>>  solution the shrimp are rinsed in before shipping. This made me

>>  wonder if the squash is coated with something waxy, or even a thin

>>  chemical used in the fields before harvesting, which causes a

>>  allergic reaction. I'm only guessing. I have been chemically

>>  sensitive and often look for those sorts of sources when i get a

>>  reaction. Of course if you pick your own butternut squash from your

>>  own organic garden then I'm totally off base.

>

>Wow!  The same thing happened to me _real_ bad once when I handled shrimp at

>a dishwashing/food prep job a few years back, and I always just assumed I

was

>really allergic to shrimp and so have never eaten them.  Maybe I'm not!  And

>actually, the reaction I had to the bn squash was exactly the same

reaction. 

>However, it comes from my grandparents garden.  They aren't organic freaks

or

>anything, but I'm pretty sure my grandfather doesn't put funny chemicals on

>the stuff, he generally tries to do more or less organic.  Hmm...

>

>Chris

My hands itch with shrimp. Figured it was the salt water. I eat them with no

problem except when I tried a few raw I gagged. They're one of the highest

sources of protein in shellfish.

Wanita

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