Re: Re: Is soil fertility off-topic?

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If anyone is interested in the work of Louis Kevran and his book " Biological

Transmutations " , it might answer a lot of questions.

He demonstrated that, for instance, Oak trees growing in poor quality, sandy

soils (low in calcium) still had high calcium levels in the bark, leaves

etc, and that where the trees had been growing for a while, the soil

immediatly near them was higher in calcium than say an area outside of its

rootzone. Dandelion, amongst other plants, sems to have a similar abilty,

hence the reason many books have been written regarding 'weeds' abilty to

repair damaged soils.

Many more experiments have been conducted in similar areas, so the book is

definatly a good read, though its only a starting point to a vast subject.

Ever wondered why herbalists advise the use of horsetail and other silica

rich, calcium poor herbs for calcium deficiencies? Guess what, we can do it

too, chris

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>Subject: Re: Is soil fertility off-topic?

>Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 13:50:19 -0000

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>--- In @y..., " Kris " <kris.johnson@a...>

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> > Chi,

> > I've been thinking about your reply. Soil fertility comes from

> > adequate minerals - the full range of macro and micro nutrients,

> > but without the microorganisms in the soil the minerals

> > are not very available, so organic matter is also essential,

> > and the worms contribute to turning organic matter

> > deposited on the soil into humus in the soil.

> >

> > But this is off-topic, so enough said, I guess.

>

>Hi Kris:

>When it comes to nutrition, Weston Price did not think soil fertility

>was off-topic, he thought it was a critical aspect of nutrition.

>You are right that soil fertility comes from minerals. The basic rock

>that forms the soil determines what minerals are in the soil and in

>what ratios to become available. The soil fertility is limited by

>these minerals and varies from low to high according to the minerals

>that become available. Albrecht explains that in a forest, calcium is

>always in short supply, making forest soils low fertility. Out west,

>however, where the buffalo roamed, calcium was plentiful in the soil

>and the soil fertility was much higher than in forested areas.

>Organic matter does not make fertile soil if it is not a product of

>fertile soil. Organic matter is a product of the basic minerals in

>the soil and so it varies in its ability to contribute to soil

>fertility. It seems that most organic gardeners don't realize that

>adding organic matter to a garden may do a little or a lot according

>to the soil fertility that produced the organic matter being added.

>Worms can't change organic matter from low fertility soil to high

>fertility humus.

>Chi

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[Guest guest]

I wasn't implying any of that, just that it is a natural phenomena that most

people are unaware of, and it has some interesting implications to healing

( " How We Heal " by on cover some of these aspects). Certainly,

we need to nourish ourselves adequately, in order for these transmutations

to even be able to occur, Chris

>From: " soilfertility " <ynos@...>

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>Subject: Re: Is soil fertility off-topic?

>Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 03:59:23 -0000

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> > If anyone is interested in the work of Louis Kevran and his

> > book " Biological Transmutations " , it might answer a

> > lot of questions. He demonstrated that, for instance,

> > Oak trees growing in poor quality, sandy soils (low in calcium)

> > still had high calcium levels in the bark, leaves etc, and

> > that where the trees had been growing for a while, the soil

> > immediatly near them was higher in calcium than say an area

> > outside of its rootzone. Dandelion, amongst other plants,

> > sems to have a similar abilty, hence the reason many books

> > have been written regarding 'weeds' abilty to

> > repair damaged soils.

> > Many more experiments have been conducted in similar areas,

> > so the book is definatly a good read, though its only a

> > starting point to a vast subject.

> > Ever wondered why herbalists advise the use of horsetail

> > and other silica rich, calcium poor herbs for calcium

> > deficiencies? Guess what, we can do it too

>

>I have read Kevran's book. I certainly think the biological

>transmutation of elements is a possibility. I wouldn't think,

>however, that there would be any chance of biological tranmutation of

>elements would ever turn low soil fertility into high soil fertility.

>Oak trees may create more calcium in their root zone than the

>surrounding soil, but certainly not enough to turn that poor soil

>into high soil fertility. The reason oak leaves last so long is that

>they are poor in calcium content.

>I also wouldn't think that any ability we have for biological

>tranmutation of elements would make up for a deficient diet. In spite

>of the fact that people talk about mineral shortages in foods,

>mineral shortages are not the main problem with the foods. The main

>problem is lack of organic compounds that we cannot synthesize

>whether or not we are capable of biological transformation. One

>compound, for example, would be Weston Price's activator X. As Price

>explained, without sufficient activator X our bodies cannot fully

>utilize minerals such as calcium, whether we can biologically

>tranmute silica into calcium or not.

>Chi

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