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Hi,

I've been making almond milk for many years now and use a different method

than what NT says. I soak almonds (about 2 cups or so) in filtered water, let

it soak from 10 - 15 hours changing the soaking water twice. I then blend it

in a blender (in batches) with about a 6-8 cups of water (depending on how

rich you want it) and I add 3-4 dates (soft pitted) when I'm blending it and

then I strain it through a nutmilk bag. I then add some vanila and a tiny

oich of sea saly. You can also blend a vanillas bean along when you are

blending it. This makes the best tasting almond milk IMO, I use the milk for

a variety of uses as I don't do well with milk products except for butterfat.

Piimaman

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Most of these fermented nut milks have a short shelf life because they

become so sour. Unless they have mold or whatever in them, they have not

turned bad just sour.

My nut and coconut milk will last about 4 days when I use straight fil mjolk

(not the whey). If you cannot tolerate milk, this would not be for you.

But I find it cuts down on milk carbs and is delicious. I imagine you could

do the same with yogurt or full kefir (but kefir is a bit sour). Fil mjolk

is much sweeter than either kefir or yogurt.

Make 1/2 gallon nut or coconut milk

Add 3/4 fil mjolk.

Let sit at room temp for 12 hours. Refrigerate.

Kat

http://www.katking.com

----- Original Message -----

From: " " <jc137@...>

< >

Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 8:19 AM

Subject: Almond Milk Disaster

> Hi all,

>

> I made the almond milk per NT and it was delicious when fresh, but after I

let it LF for two days it was inedible--totally sour and nasty. I used whey

from high quality commercial yogurt. Any ideas?

>

>

>

>

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Correction: The below should have said 3/4 CUP fil mjolk

Kat

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----- Original Message -----

From: " katking@katking " <katking@...>

< >

Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 9:36 AM

Subject: Re: Almond Milk Disaster

> Most of these fermented nut milks have a short shelf life because they

> become so sour. Unless they have mold or whatever in them, they have not

> turned bad just sour.

>

> My nut and coconut milk will last about 4 days when I use straight fil

mjolk

> (not the whey). If you cannot tolerate milk, this would not be for you.

> But I find it cuts down on milk carbs and is delicious. I imagine you

could

> do the same with yogurt or full kefir (but kefir is a bit sour). Fil

mjolk

> is much sweeter than either kefir or yogurt.

>

> Make 1/2 gallon nut or coconut milk

> Add 3/4 fil mjolk.

> Let sit at room temp for 12 hours. Refrigerate.

>

> Kat

> http://www.katking.com

>

>

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " " <jc137@...>

> < >

> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 8:19 AM

> Subject: Almond Milk Disaster

>

>

> > Hi all,

> >

> > I made the almond milk per NT and it was delicious when fresh, but after

I

> let it LF for two days it was inedible--totally sour and nasty. I used

whey

> from high quality commercial yogurt. Any ideas?

> >

> >

> >

> >

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At 11:19 AM 10/3/2002 -0400, you wrote:

>I made the almond milk per NT and it was delicious when fresh, but after I

>let it LF for two days it was inedible--totally sour and nasty. I used

>whey from high quality commercial yogurt. Any ideas?

I have not seen the recipe (though I have the book but do not have time to

look through it this moment). But I have a question to ask. Were the

skins of the almonds removed before using them in the recipe? If the skins

were left on I find that they impart toxic qualities and " nastiness " . If

the almonds are first soaked or blanched the skins can be removed. This

makes for a sweeter mix without the toxins. There is a natural bacteria

that grows when almonds are soaked in water. It is possible that the

bacteria from the almonds and the bacteria from the yogurt clashed with

each other. Maybe the almonds could be quickly boiled before using (and

after the skins are removed) to remove most of that bacteria to see what

happens.

I soak almonds every day for my parrots who greatly enjoy them - but I am

careful to smell the mix to make sure stray bacteria hasn't gotten in to

sour them. I do wash them under fresh water to remove the " scum " of

bacteria. The parrots automatically remove and discard the skins - eating

only the inner meat.

Regards,

-=mark=-

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Hi Mark,

I have also found that soaking them in citric acid takes care of any mold

which is another problem

Kat

http://www.katking.com

----- Original Message -----

From: " theta sigma " <thetasig@...>

< >

Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 10:28 AM

Subject: Re: Almond Milk Disaster

> At 11:19 AM 10/3/2002 -0400, you wrote:

> >I made the almond milk per NT and it was delicious when fresh, but after

I

> >let it LF for two days it was inedible--totally sour and nasty. I used

> >whey from high quality commercial yogurt. Any ideas?

>

> I have not seen the recipe (though I have the book but do not have time to

> look through it this moment). But I have a question to ask. Were the

> skins of the almonds removed before using them in the recipe? If the

skins

> were left on I find that they impart toxic qualities and " nastiness " . If

> the almonds are first soaked or blanched the skins can be removed. This

> makes for a sweeter mix without the toxins. There is a natural bacteria

> that grows when almonds are soaked in water. It is possible that the

> bacteria from the almonds and the bacteria from the yogurt clashed with

> each other. Maybe the almonds could be quickly boiled before using (and

> after the skins are removed) to remove most of that bacteria to see what

> happens.

>

> I soak almonds every day for my parrots who greatly enjoy them - but I am

> careful to smell the mix to make sure stray bacteria hasn't gotten in to

> sour them. I do wash them under fresh water to remove the " scum " of

> bacteria. The parrots automatically remove and discard the skins - eating

> only the inner meat.

>

> Regards,

>

> -=mark=-

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