Guest guest Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 Some very good information, thank you Jagganath. I would take issue with your opinion at the end, thus: " The above points are not all exhaustive. If after reading all this you still want to vaccinate your child, please go ahead. You deserve a vaccine-damaged child. " What an appallingly cruel statement to make. You do your cause no good at all. I know that some fear disease much more than they fear vaccine injury. They are bombarded with pro vaccine disinformation, so any contrary information is regarded with suspicion. Maracuja 40 Infallible Reasons Why You Should Never Vaccinate Infants. 40 Reasons Why You Should Never Vaccinate Infants: - Jagannath Chatterjee.( Fighting Vaccines Since 1985). There is no scientific study to determine whether vaccines have really prevented diseases. Rather disease graphs show vaccines have been introduced at the fag end of epidemics when the disease was already in its last stages. In case of Small Pox the vaccine actually caused a great spurt in the incidence of disease killing thousands before public outcry led to its withdrawal. There are no long-term studies on vaccine safety.. Very short-term unscientific tests are carried out where the vaccinated subjects are checked against another group who are given another vaccine. Technically the tests should be carried out against a non-vaccinated group. No one really knows what protocols are followed at such industry-sponsored trials. There has never been any attempt to compare a vaccinated population against a non vaccinated population to know what vaccines are doing to the children and the society. The child receives not one but many vaccines. There are no tests to determine the effects of multiple vaccines. There is no scientific basis for vaccinating infants. As per senior doctors quoted by the Times of India, " Children suffer from less that 2% of vaccine preventable illnesses but 100% of the vaccines are targeted towards them. " The vaccine pioneers who have recommended abundant caution before vaccinating the population have never advocated Mass vaccinations. Children are vaccinated simply because parents can be frightened to forcefully vaccinate their children. Vaccinating infants is the most profitable business both for the manufacturers as well as the doctors. The Government of India has come out with a quarter page advertisement in The Hindu warning parents not to vaccinate beyond the Government approved vaccines. Parents have been advised against vaccinating in private clinics and hospitals. The Orissa Chapter of the Indian Association of Pediatricians has admitted in a letter to the CM, Orissa, that private clinics and hospitals are ill equipped to store vaccines and warned parents not to vaccinate upon the advise of private practitioners and hospitals. ALL THE VACCINE INGREDIENTS ARE EXTREMELY TOXIC IN NATURE. Vaccines contain heavy metals, cancer causing substances, toxic chemicals, live and genetically modified viruses, contaminated serum containing animal viruses and foreign genetic material, extremely toxic decontaminants and adjuvants, untested antibiotics, none of which can be injected without causing any harm. The mercury, aluminum and live viruses in vaccines is behind the huge epidemic of autism (1 in 10 worldwide as per doctors in the USA), a fact that has been admitted by the US Vaccine Court. The CDC of USA, the vaccine watchdog, has publicly admitted that its much-publicized 2003 study denying any link between vaccines and autism, is flawed. The Chief of CDC Dr Gerberding has confessed to the media (CNN) that vaccines can cause " autism like symptoms " . The Autism epidemic is found only in those countries that have allowed mass vaccinations. In the year 1999, the US Government instructed vaccine manufacturers to remove mercury from vaccines " with immediate effect " . But mercury still remains a part of many vaccines. The vaccines with mercury were never recalled and were given to children up to the year 2006. " Mercury free " vaccines contain 0.05mcg of mercury, enough to permanently damage a infant. IN INDIA NO ATTEMPT HAS BEEN MADE TO ENSURE THAT MERCURY AND OTHER HEAVY METALS ARE REMOVED FROM VACCINES SIMPLY BECAUSE IT WOULD MAKE VACCINES COSTLIER. In a reply to then President Sri Abdul Kalam, the Health Ministry informed, " mercury is required to make the vaccines safe " . To the authors query that " what are these vaccines that it requires the second most dangerous neurotoxin, mercury, to make them safe? " , there was no reply. Mercury used in vaccines is second in toxicity only to the radioactive substance, Uranium. It is a neurotoxin that can damage the entire nervous system of the infant in no time. Mercury accumulates in fat. The brain being made entirely of fat cells, most of the mercury accumulates there giving rise to the peculiar symptoms of the autistic children. The mercury used in vaccines is ethyl mercury. According to Indian doctors this is 1000 times more toxic than the usual methyl mercury. The aluminum present in vaccines makes the mercury, in any form, 100 times more toxic. As per an independent study aluminum and formaldehyde present in vaccines can increase the toxicity of mercury, in any form, by 1000 times. As per a Tehelka article on Autism, children are receiving 250 times more mercury through vaccines than they can possibly tolerate. The same article states that if one considers the WHO limit for mercury in water, they are receiving 50,000 times the limit. The limits set, incidentally, are for adults and not infants. Autism in India has emerged as the most rapidly growing epidemic amongst children. From 1 in 500 it has steadily climbed to 1 in 37 today. As per Indian doctors, " You can go to any class of any school today and find an autistic child. " Autism is a permanent disability that affects the child physically, mentally and emotionally. It makes the child loose social contact. It impedes both the physical and mental growth of the child. It destroys the brain causing severe memory and attention problems. According to vaccine researcher Dr Coulter, vaccines cause children to become pervert and criminal. All the school shootings by the children in the USA are by autistic children. Vaccines can cause more harm that even the medical community privately acknowledges. Autistic children also suffer from severe bowel disorders. As per Dr Wakefield, this is due to the vaccine strain live measles virus in the MMR vaccine. Nearly all children become fully autistic after the MMR shot. The DPT also causes children to regress giving rise to fears that multiple live virus vaccines are an important cause behind autism. If three live viruses can cause so much harm we can well imagine what today¢s five and seven viruses vaccines will do to children. Before the autism epidemic, it is already well known that vaccines have caused the cancer epidemic in today¢s society. Both the Small Pox and the Oral Polio Vaccine are made from monkey serum. This serum has helped many cancer causing monkey viruses, 60 found so far, to enter the human blood stream. It is also known that it is the use of green monkey serum in vaccines that has led to the transfer of the Sivian Immune deficiency Virus (SIV) from monkeys into humans. The SIV and the HIV that causes AIDS are very similar. Not only AIDS, a blood cancer in infants (Acute Lymphoblastic Leukemia) that is affecting children in thousands is also due to the extremely toxic nature of vaccine ingredients. Infantile jaundice and also infantile diabetes is also scientifically connected to the toxic vaccines. The live polio viruses used in the Oral Polio Vaccine has caused Vaccine Attributed Paralytic Polio in more than 65,000 children as per doctors of the Indian Medical Association. In the USA this vaccine has caused polio 16 years after administration. The OPV has also let loose a new strain of polio in both India and Africa. The OPV is banned in other countries. Vaccines contain serum from not only chimpanzees and monkeys but also from cows, pigs, chickens, eggs, horses, and even human serum and tissues extracted from aborted fetuses. Deaths and permanent disability from vaccines is very common and known by the medical community. They are instructed by the Government to keep quiet and not to associate such cases with vaccines. Many doctors argue that diseases during childhood are due to the body exercising its immune system. Suppressing these diseases causes the immune system to remain undeveloped causing the various autoimmune disorders like diabetes and arthritis that have become epidemics today. Vaccines suppress the natural immunity and the body does not have natural antibodies anymore. The mothers milk therefore does not contain natural antibodies and can no longer protect the child against illnesses. In the USA vaccine adverse effects are recorded and the Government offers compensation of millions of dollars to victims (the most recent case in its Vaccine Court may have received upto $200 million in damages). The Indian Government simply refuses to acknowledge that vaccines can cause deaths and permanent disability. It has been scientifically proven that vaccines cannot prevent disease. Vaccines try to create humoral (blood related immunity) whereas it has been found that immunity is developed at various levels, humoral as well as cellular. We still do not know enough about the human immune system and therefore should not interfere with it. In the USA parents are informed about vaccine after effects and their consent has to be taken before vaccinating their children. In India the Government assures the population through massive advertising campaigns that vaccines are extremely safe. Parents refusing to vaccinate are threatened by the administration. THERE IS NO SYSTEM OF TREATMENT TO TREAT A VACCINE DAMAGED CHILD. The parents have to run from one hospital to another. The Government turns a blind eye and refuses to even acknowledge the vaccine connection. Medical doctors have challenged even the vaccines recommended by the Government of India. The BCG vaccine for tuberculosis has been extensively tested in India as long back as 1961 and found to be totally ineffective.. The OPV is causing polio and other neurological and intestinal disorders in tens of thousands of Indian children. The Hep-B vaccine introduced recently is not meant for children at all, it is a vaccine for a sexually transmitted disease that should be targeted only at promiscuous adults. The tetanus vaccine contains both aluminum and mercury besides the tetanus toxoid. The doctors themselves avoid the DPT as it is one of the most toxic vaccines ever devised. The measles vaccine is a vaccine that regularly causes severe adverse effects and the health workers want it out. The pediatricians are introducing dubious vaccines in India, which are being opposed by the doctors, politicians, and public in American and European countries. The Rotavirus vaccine, Hib vaccine, HPV vaccine and the various multi various vaccines being introduced without any kind of testing is only because the vaccine manufacturers and the doctors administering them want to ensure a good income from them. They care two hoots about medical ethics and the fate of the children who will receive these vaccines. Vaccines containing nano particles and viruses and also plant based genetically honest doctors worldwide are opposing modified vaccines. The above points are not all exhaustive. If after reading all this you still want to vaccinate your child, please go ahead. You deserve a vaccine-damaged child. ------------ ----xxxxxxxxxxxx --------- --------- " It is now 30 years since I have been confining myself to the treatment ofchronic diseases. During those 30 years I have run against so many histories of littlechildren who had never seen a sick day until they were vaccinated and who, in the severalyears that have followed, have never seen a well day since. I couldn't put my finger onthe disease they have. They just weren't strong. Their resistance was gone. They wereperfectly well before they were vaccinated. They have never been well since. " ---Dr. Hay Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Go to http://in.webmessen ger.. com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 <<The mercury, aluminum and live viruses in vaccines is behind the huge epidemic of autism (1 in 10 worldwide as per doctors in the USA), a fact that has been admitted by the US Vaccine Court.>> After reading this, I feel this article lacks credibility. Plus, a few other points mentioned need to be cited before I'd believe it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 Why don't you offer a few ideas on how this article can be improved upon? schrieb: > > <<The mercury, aluminum and live viruses in vaccines is behind the > huge epidemic > of autism (1 in 10 worldwide as per doctors in the USA), a fact that > has been > admitted by the US Vaccine Court.>> > > After reading this, I feel this article lacks credibility. Plus, a few > other points mentioned need > to be cited before I'd believe it. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1614 - Release Date: 15/08/2008 17:29 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 What?? I'm just commenting that I'm skeptical of the author. Wasn't trying to offend you. > > Why don't you offer a few ideas on how this article can be improved upon? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 In what way are you sceptical about the author, ? From what I've read from Jag, there isn't a lot he doesn't know about vaccines.... Sue x -- Re: 40 Infallible Reasons Why You Should Never Vaccinate Infants. What?? I'm just commenting that I'm skeptical of the author. Wasn't trying to offend you. > > Why don't you offer a few ideas on how this article can be improved upon? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 Sue, the author sounds very knowledgeable. And I don't mean to say I know more - far from it! But there are some statements in the article which seem pretty strong. Examples: " The mercury, aluminum and live viruses in vaccines is behind the huge epidemic of autism (1 in 10 worldwide as per doctors in the USA), a fact that has been admitted by the US Vaccine Court. " This statement makes it sound as if the US Vaccine Court has admitted that the " huge epidemic " is due to mercury, aluminum and live viruses. This is not my understanding. I could be wrong - I could have misinterpreted. I don't think they admitted the entire problem has been caused by vaccines. I may be misinterpreting the author. Some statements seem pretty strong - credibility could be boosted w/citations it would seem. Examples: " All the school shootings by the children in the USA are by autistic children. " (I'm leery any time I see " all " or " never. " ) " Nearly all children become fully autistic after the MMR shot. " (There's that word " all " again.) " it is already well known that vaccines have caused the cancer epidemic in today’s society. " (Just wonder - well known by whom? Doesn't appear to be by people who think vaccines are wonderful.) " Deaths and permanent disability from vaccines is very common and known by the medical community. They are instructed by the Government to keep quiet and not to associate such cases with vaccines. " (I only question this because I have a SIL who is a pediatrician. She TRULY believes in vaccines and all 4 of her kids are fully vaxed.) " It has been scientifically proven that vaccines cannot prevent disease. " (Which studies? Seems to be an area of dispute these days.) " The measles vaccine is a vaccine that regularly causes severe adverse effects and the health workers want it out. " (Which health care workers? I don't think it's the peds.) I'm absolutely not saying these statements are wrong. These are pretty strong statements and I wonder what the sources are - that's all. I think if you are going to show this list to people who are unfamiliar with vaccines and expect them to convert, seems some citations would be warranted. Especially with the last sentence of " If after reading all this you still want to vaccinate your child, please go ahead. You deserve a vaccine-damaged child. " I think there are a lot of truths in this article. VERY good points. But, usually good to avoid words like all, never. And with this being such a heated topic (vaxes), if you're going to try to convince someone vaxes are bad and well known to be bad, you really ought to make sure all your ducks are lined up in a row, just to cover your bases. Do you know what I'm saying here? Especially when you look at the title, which uses the words " Infallible " and " Never. " I truly didn't mean to offend anyone. I certainly hope I did not. > > In what way are you sceptical about the author, ? From what I've > read from Jag, there isn't a lot he doesn't know about vaccines.... > > Sue x > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 I have to say I agree with . While I believe most of the statements, some of them are opinions, some are debatable and a couple I found outright untrue. The US Courts did NOT admit anything about autism that I've ever heard of. When did this happen? And I have never heard of one school shooter being autistic, let alone all. I think it is not likely true that almost all children become autistic after the MMR, and fully autistic? Come on. Most kids I know have gotten the vaccine and they aren't even mildly autistic. And yes, I believe MMR causes autism, so does mercury. It's important not to make statements like these if you want people to believe the rest of what you have to say. Winnie Re: 40 Infallible Reasons Why You Should Never Vaccinate Infants. Vaccinations > Sue, the author sounds very knowledgeable. And I don't mean to > say I know more - far > from it! But there are some statements in the article which > seem pretty strong. Examples: > > " The mercury, aluminum and live viruses in vaccines is behind > the huge epidemic > of autism (1 in 10 worldwide as per doctors in the USA), a fact > that has been > admitted by the US Vaccine Court. " > > This statement makes it sound as if the US Vaccine Court has > admitted that the " huge > epidemic " is due to mercury, aluminum and live viruses. This is > not my understanding. I > could be wrong - I could have misinterpreted. I don't think > they admitted the entire > problem has been caused by vaccines. I may be misinterpreting > the author. > > > Some statements seem pretty strong - credibility could be > boosted w/citations it would > seem. Examples: > > > " All the school shootings by the children in the USA are by > autistic children. " > (I'm leery any time I see " all " or " never. " ) > > " Nearly all children become fully autistic after the MMR shot. " > (There's that word " all " > again.) > > " it is already well known that vaccines have caused > the cancer epidemic in today’s society. " (Just wonder - well > known by whom? Doesn't > appear to be by people who think vaccines are wonderful.) > > " Deaths and permanent disability from vaccines is very common > and known by the > medical community. They are instructed by the Government to keep > quiet and not > to associate such cases with vaccines. " (I only question this > because I have a SIL who is a > pediatrician. She TRULY believes in vaccines and all 4 of her > kids are fully vaxed.) > > " It has been scientifically proven that vaccines cannot prevent > disease. " (Which studies? > Seems to be an area of dispute these days.) > > " The measles vaccine is a > vaccine that regularly causes severe adverse effects and the > health workers want > it out. " (Which health care workers? I don't think it's the peds.) > > > > I'm absolutely not saying these statements are wrong. These are > pretty strong statements > and I wonder what the sources are - that's all. I think if you > are going to show this list to > people who are unfamiliar with vaccines and expect them to > convert, seems some citations > would be warranted. Especially with the last sentence of " If > after reading all this you still > want to vaccinate your child, please go ahead. You deserve a > vaccine-damaged > child. " I think there are a lot of truths in this article. > VERY good points. But, usually good > to avoid words like all, never. And with this being such a > heated topic (vaxes), if you're > going to try to convince someone vaxes are bad and well known to > be bad, you really > ought to make sure all your ducks are lined up in a row, just to > cover your bases. Do you > know what I'm saying here? Especially when you look at the > title, which uses the words > " Infallible " and " Never. " > > I truly didn't mean to offend anyone. I certainly hope I did > not. > > > > > > > > > > In what way are you sceptical about the author, ? > From what I've > > read from Jag, there isn't a lot he doesn't know about vaccines.... > > > > Sue x > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 I agree with & Winnie and I'm certainly not offended by your take on Jagganath's list. I'd put Jagganath's hyperbole down to passion for the subject, but one doesn't win people over by not citing credible references. If references could be belatedly provided, it would be most hepful to people who are new to the group. That curse at the end does Jagganath no favours, as I have seen people absolutely petrified of disease, who knowingly get their babies jabbed & hold their breaths while doing so. I found it shocking [and offensive] that Jaggagnath would think such a curse, let alone write it down for the parents of vaccine-injured children to read.. It undoes any good that the list might do. I had my first child jabbed in ignorance of the truth, and went on the anger-guilt trip and can never do enough to put that right. That includes educating others, but cursing those who can't get past the pHARMa propaganda is counter-productive. I had to forgive, otherwise grief & guilt would have paralysed me. That doesn't mean I don't feel absolute righteous indignation at those money-changers in the temple who wilfully coerce or force others to pollute their babies' temples (bodies). Maracuja ----- Original Message ---- From: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 I had exactly those thoughts myself. I read the article, and said " hmm, who is this guy? " " commonly known by who?, not me.. " , etc. I was wondering just what his sources were as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 You make some excellent points, , and thank you for clarifying. Sue x -- Re: 40 Infallible Reasons Why You Should Never Vaccinate Infants. Sue, the author sounds very knowledgeable. And I don't mean to say I know more - far from it! But there are some statements in the article which seem pretty strong. Examples: " The mercury, aluminum and live viruses in vaccines is behind the huge epidemic of autism (1 in 10 worldwide as per doctors in the USA), a fact that has been admitted by the US Vaccine Court. " This statement makes it sound as if the US Vaccine Court has admitted that the " huge epidemic " is due to mercury, aluminum and live viruses. This is not my understanding. I could be wrong - I could have misinterpreted. I don't think they admitted the entire problem has been caused by vaccines. I may be misinterpreting the author. Some statements seem pretty strong - credibility could be boosted w/citations it would seem. Examples: " All the school shootings by the children in the USA are by autistic children. " (I'm leery any time I see " all " or " never. " ) " Nearly all children become fully autistic after the MMR shot. " (There's that word " all " again.) " it is already well known that vaccines have caused the cancer epidemic in today’s society. " (Just wonder - well known by whom? Doesn't appear to be by people who think vaccines are wonderful.) " Deaths and permanent disability from vaccines is very common and known by the medical community. They are instructed by the Government to keep quiet and not to associate such cases with vaccines. " (I only question this because I have a SIL who is a pediatrician. She TRULY believes in vaccines and all 4 of her kids are fully vaxed.) " It has been scientifically proven that vaccines cannot prevent disease. " (Which studies? Seems to be an area of dispute these days.) " The measles vaccine is a vaccine that regularly causes severe adverse effects and the health workers want it out. " (Which health care workers? I don't think it's the peds.) I'm absolutely not saying these statements are wrong. These are pretty strong statements and I wonder what the sources are - that's all. I think if you are going to show this list to people who are unfamiliar with vaccines and expect them to convert, seems some citations would be warranted. Especially with the last sentence of " If after reading all this you still want to vaccinate your child, please go ahead. You deserve a vaccine-damaged child. " I think there are a lot of truths in this article. VERY good points. But, usually good to avoid words like all, never. And with this being such a heated topic (vaxes), if you're going to try to convince someone vaxes are bad and well known to be bad, you really ought to make sure all your ducks are lined up in a row, just to cover your bases. Do you know what I'm saying here? Especially when you look at the title, which uses the words " Infallible " and " Never. " I truly didn't mean to offend anyone. I certainly hope I did not. > > In what way are you sceptical about the author, ? From what I've > read from Jag, there isn't a lot he doesn't know about vaccines.... > > Sue x > > ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 , Great points! I had those same thoughts! Although we are a non-vax family, it's critical and responsible for our community to not make the same generalizations as our counter-parts - that's how the vax- community got themselves in hot water and under scrutiny. Given their flaws in their arguments, we non-vaxers/partial vaxers need to be better, more reliable, more credible with our messages. My opinion to the article's last statement about anyone deserving a vax-injured child: unnecessary and counter-productive. mabel > > <<The mercury, aluminum and live viruses in vaccines is behind the huge epidemic > of autism (1 in 10 worldwide as per doctors in the USA), a fact that has been > admitted by the US Vaccine Court.>> > > After reading this, I feel this article lacks credibility. Plus, a few other points mentioned need > to be cited before I'd believe it. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 Hi Mabel & others, The last sentence is not a curse. It is to shake parents out of their slumber and faith on the industry. Had I wanted to wish autism on others I wouldn't be fighting vaccines. The piece is not written for the " experts " but for lay parents. Therefore it is kept short and sans jargon. Thanks, Jag. > > > > <<The mercury, aluminum and live viruses in vaccines is behind the > huge epidemic > > of autism (1 in 10 worldwide as per doctors in the USA), a fact > that has been > > admitted by the US Vaccine Court.>> > > > > After reading this, I feel this article lacks credibility. Plus, a > few other points mentioned need > > to be cited before I'd believe it. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Sorry Jag I don't agree. I vaccinated my eldest 3 children, partly as when I did (I will admit briefly) look at non vaccinating info there were 'curses' like this one you listed, and other facts that were not 'proven' (eg autistic kids and school shootings)..all it ended up in me thinking were that the non vaccinating population were a load of crackpots and I couldn't believe anything they said, so I went along with the view that I had grown up with . Your comments (as good as the intention may be) could well just have the opposite effect and more kids will be vaccinated. Jo Surrey UK " It takes a strong man to swim against the current; any dead fish will float with it " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Looks like with a little updating/editing the list could be great ! I like your point about not using all/always/never etc......I need to remind myself of this when I am arguing with my husband (not often, of course!) > > > > In what way are you sceptical about the author, ? From what I've > > read from Jag, there isn't a lot he doesn't know about vaccines.... > > > > Sue x > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 reads like a rant i enjoyed it, but wouldnt distribue > > Sorry Jag I don't agree. > I vaccinated my eldest 3 children, partly as when I did (I will admit > briefly) look at non vaccinating info there were 'curses' like this one you > listed, and other facts that were not 'proven' (eg autistic kids and school > shootings)..all it ended up in me thinking were that the non vaccinating > population were a load of crackpots and I couldn't believe anything they > said, so I went along with the view that I had grown up with . > Your comments (as good as the intention may be) could well just have the > opposite effect and more kids will be vaccinated. > > Jo > Surrey > UK > > > > " It takes a strong man to swim against the current; any dead fish will float > with it " > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 40 Reasons Why You Should Never Vaccinate Infants: - Jagannath Chatterjee.(Fighting Vaccines Since 1985). There is no scientific study to determine whether vaccines have really prevented diseases. Rather disease graphs show vaccines have been introduced at the fag end of epidemics when the disease was already in its last stages. In case of Small Pox the vaccine actually caused a great spurt in the incidence of disease killing thousands before public outcry led to its withdrawal. There are no long-term studies on vaccine safety. Very short-term unscientific tests are carried out where the vaccinated subjects are checked against another group who are given another vaccine. Technically the tests should be carried out against a non-vaccinated group. No one really knows what protocols are followed at such industry-sponsored trials. There has never been any attempt to compare a vaccinated population against a non vaccinated population to know what vaccines are doing to the children and the society. The child receives not one but many vaccines. There are no tests to determine the effects of multiple vaccines. There is no scientific basis for vaccinating infants. As per senior doctors quoted by the Times of India, "Children suffer from less that 2% of vaccine preventable illnesses but 100% of the vaccines are targeted towards them." The vaccine pioneers who have recommended abundant caution before vaccinating the population have never advocated Mass vaccinations. Children are vaccinated simply because parents can be frightened to forcefully vaccinate their children. Vaccinating infants is the most profitable business both for the manufacturers as well as the doctors. The Government of India has come out with a quarter page advertisement in The Hindu warning parents not to vaccinate beyond the Government approved vaccines. Parents have been advised against vaccinating in private clinics and hospitals. The Orissa Chapter of the Indian Association of Pediatricians has admitted in a letter to the CM, Orissa, that private clinics and hospitals are ill equipped to store vaccines and warned parents not to vaccinate upon the advise of private practitioners and hospitals. ALL THE VACCINE INGREDIENTS ARE EXTREMELY TOXIC IN NATURE. Vaccines contain heavy metals, cancer causing substances, toxic chemicals, live and genetically modified viruses, contaminated serum containing animal viruses and foreign genetic material, extremely toxic decontaminants and adjuvants, untested antibiotics, none of which can be injected without causing any harm. The mercury, aluminum and live viruses in vaccines is behind the huge epidemic of autism (1 in 10 worldwide as per doctors in the USA), a fact that has been admitted by the US Vaccine Court. The CDC of USA, the vaccine watchdog, has publicly admitted that its much-publicized 2003 study denying any link between vaccines and autism, is flawed. The Chief of CDC Dr Gerberding has confessed to the media (CNN) that vaccines can cause "autism like symptoms". The Autism epidemic is found only in those countries that have allowed mass vaccinations. In the year 1999, the US Government instructed vaccine manufacturers to remove mercury from vaccines "with immediate effect". But mercury still remains a part of many vaccines. The vaccines with mercury were never recalled and were given to children up to the year 2006. "Mercury free" vaccines contain 0.05mcg of mercury, enough to permanently damage a infant. IN INDIA NO ATTEMPT HAS BEEN MADE TO ENSURE THAT MERCURY AND OTHER HEAVY METALS ARE REMOVED FROM VACCINES SIMPLY BECAUSE IT WOULD MAKE VACCINES COSTLIER. In a reply to then President Sri Abdul Kalam, the Health Ministry informed, "mercury is required to make the vaccines safe". To the authors query that "what are these vaccines that it requires the second most dangerous neurotoxin, mercury, to make them safe?", there was no reply. Mercury used in vaccines is second in toxicity only to the radioactive substance, Uranium. It is a neurotoxin that can damage the entire nervous system of the infant in no time. Mercury accumulates in fat. The brain being made entirely of fat cells, most of the mercury accumulates there giving rise to the peculiar symptoms of the autistic children. The mercury used in vaccines is ethyl mercury. According to Indian doctors this is 1000 times more toxic than the usual methyl mercury. The aluminum present in vaccines makes the mercury, in any form, 100 times more toxic. As per an independent study aluminum and formaldehyde present in vaccines can increase the toxicity of mercury, in any form, by 1000 times. As per a Tehelka article on Autism, children are receiving 250 times more mercury through vaccines than they can possibly tolerate. The same article states that if one considers the WHO limit for mercury in water, they are receiving 50,000 times the limit. The limits set, incidentally, are for adults and not infants. Autism in India has emerged as the most rapidly growing epidemic amongst children. From 1 in 500 it has steadily climbed to 1 in 37 today. As per Indian doctors, "You can go to any class of any school today and find an autistic child." Autism is a permanent disability that affects the child physically, mentally and emotionally. It makes the child loose social contact. It impedes both the physical and mental growth of the child. It destroys the brain causing severe memory and attention problems. According to vaccine researcher Dr Coulter, vaccines cause children to become pervert and criminal. All the school shootings by the children in the USA are by autistic children. Vaccines can cause more harm that even the medical community privately acknowledges. Autistic children also suffer from severe bowel disorders. As per Dr Wakefield, this is due to the vaccine strain live measles virus in the MMR vaccine. Nearly all children become fully autistic after the MMR shot. The DPT also causes children to regress giving rise to fears that multiple live virus vaccines are an important cause behind autism. If three live viruses can cause so much harm we can well imagine what today’s five and seven viruses vaccines will do to children. Before the autism epidemic, it is already well known that vaccines have caused the cancer epidemic in today’s society. Both the Small Pox and the Oral Polio Vaccine are made from monkey serum. This serum has helped many cancer causing monkey viruses, 60 found so far, to enter the human blood stream. It is also known that it is the use of green monkey serum in vaccines that has led to the transfer of the Sivian Immune deficiency Virus (SIV) from monkeys into humans. The SIV and the HIV that causes AIDS are very similar. Not only AIDS, a blood cancer in infants (Acute Lymphoblastic Leukemia) that is affecting children in thousands is also due to the extremely toxic nature of vaccine ingredients. Infantile jaundice and also infantile diabetes is also scientifically connected to the toxic vaccines. The live polio viruses used in the Oral Polio Vaccine has caused Vaccine Attributed Paralytic Polio in more than 65,000 children as per doctors of the Indian Medical Association. In the USA this vaccine has caused polio 16 years after administration. The OPV has also let loose a new strain of polio in both India and Africa. The OPV is banned in other countries. Vaccines contain serum from not only chimpanzees and monkeys but also from cows, pigs, chickens, eggs, horses, and even human serum and tissues extracted from aborted fetuses. Deaths and permanent disability from vaccines is very common and known by the medical community. They are instructed by the Government to keep quiet and not to associate such cases with vaccines. Many doctors argue that diseases during childhood are due to the body exercising its immune system. Suppressing these diseases causes the immune system to remain undeveloped causing the various autoimmune disorders like diabetes and arthritis that have become epidemics today. Vaccines suppress the natural immunity and the body does not have natural antibodies anymore. The mothers milk therefore does not contain natural antibodies and can no longer protect the child against illnesses. In the USA vaccine adverse effects are recorded and the Government offers compensation of millions of dollars to victims (the most recent case in its Vaccine Court may have received upto $200 million in damages). The Indian Government simply refuses to acknowledge that vaccines can cause deaths and permanent disability. It has been scientifically proven that vaccines cannot prevent disease. Vaccines try to create humoral (blood related immunity) whereas it has been found that immunity is developed at various levels, humoral as well as cellular. We still do not know enough about the human immune system and therefore should not interfere with it. In the USA parents are informed about vaccine after effects and their consent has to be taken before vaccinating their children. In India the Government assures the population through massive advertising campaigns that vaccines are extremely safe. Parents refusing to vaccinate are threatened by the administration. THERE IS NO SYSTEM OF TREATMENT TO TREAT A VACCINE DAMAGED CHILD. The parents have to run from one hospital to another. The Government turns a blind eye and refuses to even acknowledge the vaccine connection. Medical doctors have challenged even the vaccines recommended by the Government of India. The BCG vaccine for tuberculosis has been extensively tested in India as long back as 1961 and found to be totally ineffective. The OPV is causing polio and other neurological and intestinal disorders in tens of thousands of Indian children. The Hep-B vaccine introduced recently is not meant for children at all, it is a vaccine for a sexually transmitted disease that should be targeted only at promiscuous adults. The tetanus vaccine contains both aluminum and mercury besides the tetanus toxoid. The doctors themselves avoid the DPT as it is one of the most toxic vaccines ever devised. The measles vaccine is a vaccine that regularly causes severe adverse effects and the health workers want it out. The pediatricians are introducing dubious vaccines in India, which are being opposed by the doctors, politicians, and public in American and European countries. The Rotavirus vaccine, Hib vaccine, HPV vaccine and the various multi various vaccines being introduced without any kind of testing is only because the vaccine manufacturers and the doctors administering them want to ensure a good income from them. They care two hoots about medical ethics and the fate of the children who will receive these vaccines. Vaccines containing nano particles and viruses and also plant based genetically honest doctors worldwide are opposing modified vaccines. The above points are not all exhaustive. If after reading all this you still want to vaccinate your child, please go ahead. You deserve a vaccine-damaged child. ----------------xxxxxxxxxxxx------------------ "It is now 30 years since I have been confining myself to the treatment ofchronic diseases. During those 30 years I have run against so many histories of littlechildren who had never seen a sick day until they were vaccinated and who, in the severalyears that have followed, have never seen a well day since. I couldn't put my finger onthe disease they have. They just weren't strong. Their resistance was gone. They wereperfectly well before they were vaccinated. They have never been well since. "---Dr. Hay Health_and_Healing - PULSE ON 21st CENTURY ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE! Health_and_HealingSubscribe:......... Health_and_Healing-subscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 40 Reasons Why You Should Never Vaccinate Infants: - Jagannath Chatterjee.(Fighting Vaccines Since 1985). There is no scientific study to determine whether vaccines have really prevented diseases. Rather disease graphs show vaccines have been introduced at the fag end of epidemics when the disease was already in its last stages. In case of Small Pox the vaccine actually caused a great spurt in the incidence of disease killing thousands before public outcry led to its withdrawal. There are no long-term studies on vaccine safety. Very short-term unscientific tests are carried out where the vaccinated subjects are checked against another group who are given another vaccine. Technically the tests should be carried out against a non-vaccinated group. No one really knows what protocols are followed at such industry-sponsored trials. There has never been any attempt to compare a vaccinated population against a non vaccinated population to know what vaccines are doing to the children and the society. The child receives not one but many vaccines. There are no tests to determine the effects of multiple vaccines. There is no scientific basis for vaccinating infants. As per senior doctors quoted by the Times of India, "Children suffer from less that 2% of vaccine preventable illnesses but 100% of the vaccines are targeted towards them." The vaccine pioneers who have recommended abundant caution before vaccinating the population have never advocated Mass vaccinations. Children are vaccinated simply because parents can be frightened to forcefully vaccinate their children. Vaccinating infants is the most profitable business both for the manufacturers as well as the doctors. The Government of India has come out with a quarter page advertisement in The Hindu warning parents not to vaccinate beyond the Government approved vaccines. Parents have been advised against vaccinating in private clinics and hospitals. The Orissa Chapter of the Indian Association of Pediatricians has admitted in a letter to the CM, Orissa, that private clinics and hospitals are ill equipped to store vaccines and warned parents not to vaccinate upon the advise of private practitioners and hospitals. ALL THE VACCINE INGREDIENTS ARE EXTREMELY TOXIC IN NATURE. Vaccines contain heavy metals, cancer causing substances, toxic chemicals, live and genetically modified viruses, contaminated serum containing animal viruses and foreign genetic material, extremely toxic decontaminants and adjuvants, untested antibiotics, none of which can be injected without causing any harm. The mercury, aluminum and live viruses in vaccines is behind the huge epidemic of autism (1 in 10 worldwide as per doctors in the USA), a fact that has been admitted by the US Vaccine Court. The CDC of USA, the vaccine watchdog, has publicly admitted that its much-publicized 2003 study denying any link between vaccines and autism, is flawed. The Chief of CDC Dr Gerberding has confessed to the media (CNN) that vaccines can cause "autism like symptoms". The Autism epidemic is found only in those countries that have allowed mass vaccinations. In the year 1999, the US Government instructed vaccine manufacturers to remove mercury from vaccines "with immediate effect". But mercury still remains a part of many vaccines. The vaccines with mercury were never recalled and were given to children up to the year 2006. "Mercury free" vaccines contain 0.05mcg of mercury, enough to permanently damage a infant. IN INDIA NO ATTEMPT HAS BEEN MADE TO ENSURE THAT MERCURY AND OTHER HEAVY METALS ARE REMOVED FROM VACCINES SIMPLY BECAUSE IT WOULD MAKE VACCINES COSTLIER. In a reply to then President Sri Abdul Kalam, the Health Ministry informed, "mercury is required to make the vaccines safe". To the authors query that "what are these vaccines that it requires the second most dangerous neurotoxin, mercury, to make them safe?", there was no reply. Mercury used in vaccines is second in toxicity only to the radioactive substance, Uranium. It is a neurotoxin that can damage the entire nervous system of the infant in no time. Mercury accumulates in fat. The brain being made entirely of fat cells, most of the mercury accumulates there giving rise to the peculiar symptoms of the autistic children. The mercury used in vaccines is ethyl mercury. According to Indian doctors this is 1000 times more toxic than the usual methyl mercury. The aluminum present in vaccines makes the mercury, in any form, 100 times more toxic. As per an independent study aluminum and formaldehyde present in vaccines can increase the toxicity of mercury, in any form, by 1000 times. As per a Tehelka article on Autism, children are receiving 250 times more mercury through vaccines than they can possibly tolerate. The same article states that if one considers the WHO limit for mercury in water, they are receiving 50,000 times the limit. The limits set, incidentally, are for adults and not infants. Autism in India has emerged as the most rapidly growing epidemic amongst children. From 1 in 500 it has steadily climbed to 1 in 37 today. As per Indian doctors, "You can go to any class of any school today and find an autistic child." Autism is a permanent disability that affects the child physically, mentally and emotionally. It makes the child loose social contact. It impedes both the physical and mental growth of the child. It destroys the brain causing severe memory and attention problems. According to vaccine researcher Dr Coulter, vaccines cause children to become pervert and criminal. All the school shootings by the children in the USA are by autistic children. Vaccines can cause more harm that even the medical community privately acknowledges. Autistic children also suffer from severe bowel disorders. As per Dr Wakefield, this is due to the vaccine strain live measles virus in the MMR vaccine. Nearly all children become fully autistic after the MMR shot. The DPT also causes children to regress giving rise to fears that multiple live virus vaccines are an important cause behind autism. If three live viruses can cause so much harm we can well imagine what today’s five and seven viruses vaccines will do to children. Before the autism epidemic, it is already well known that vaccines have caused the cancer epidemic in today’s society. Both the Small Pox and the Oral Polio Vaccine are made from monkey serum. This serum has helped many cancer causing monkey viruses, 60 found so far, to enter the human blood stream. It is also known that it is the use of green monkey serum in vaccines that has led to the transfer of the Sivian Immune deficiency Virus (SIV) from monkeys into humans. The SIV and the HIV that causes AIDS are very similar. Not only AIDS, a blood cancer in infants (Acute Lymphoblastic Leukemia) that is affecting children in thousands is also due to the extremely toxic nature of vaccine ingredients. Infantile jaundice and also infantile diabetes is also scientifically connected to the toxic vaccines. The live polio viruses used in the Oral Polio Vaccine has caused Vaccine Attributed Paralytic Polio in more than 65,000 children as per doctors of the Indian Medical Association. In the USA this vaccine has caused polio 16 years after administration. The OPV has also let loose a new strain of polio in both India and Africa. The OPV is banned in other countries. Vaccines contain serum from not only chimpanzees and monkeys but also from cows, pigs, chickens, eggs, horses, and even human serum and tissues extracted from aborted fetuses. Deaths and permanent disability from vaccines is very common and known by the medical community. They are instructed by the Government to keep quiet and not to associate such cases with vaccines. Many doctors argue that diseases during childhood are due to the body exercising its immune system. Suppressing these diseases causes the immune system to remain undeveloped causing the various autoimmune disorders like diabetes and arthritis that have become epidemics today. Vaccines suppress the natural immunity and the body does not have natural antibodies anymore. The mothers milk therefore does not contain natural antibodies and can no longer protect the child against illnesses. In the USA vaccine adverse effects are recorded and the Government offers compensation of millions of dollars to victims (the most recent case in its Vaccine Court may have received upto $200 million in damages). The Indian Government simply refuses to acknowledge that vaccines can cause deaths and permanent disability. It has been scientifically proven that vaccines cannot prevent disease. Vaccines try to create humoral (blood related immunity) whereas it has been found that immunity is developed at various levels, humoral as well as cellular. We still do not know enough about the human immune system and therefore should not interfere with it. In the USA parents are informed about vaccine after effects and their consent has to be taken before vaccinating their children. In India the Government assures the population through massive advertising campaigns that vaccines are extremely safe. Parents refusing to vaccinate are threatened by the administration. THERE IS NO SYSTEM OF TREATMENT TO TREAT A VACCINE DAMAGED CHILD. The parents have to run from one hospital to another. The Government turns a blind eye and refuses to even acknowledge the vaccine connection. Medical doctors have challenged even the vaccines recommended by the Government of India. The BCG vaccine for tuberculosis has been extensively tested in India as long back as 1961 and found to be totally ineffective. The OPV is causing polio and other neurological and intestinal disorders in tens of thousands of Indian children. The Hep-B vaccine introduced recently is not meant for children at all, it is a vaccine for a sexually transmitted disease that should be targeted only at promiscuous adults. The tetanus vaccine contains both aluminum and mercury besides the tetanus toxoid. The doctors themselves avoid the DPT as it is one of the most toxic vaccines ever devised. The measles vaccine is a vaccine that regularly causes severe adverse effects and the health workers want it out. The pediatricians are introducing dubious vaccines in India, which are being opposed by the doctors, politicians, and public in American and European countries. The Rotavirus vaccine, Hib vaccine, HPV vaccine and the various multi various vaccines being introduced without any kind of testing is only because the vaccine manufacturers and the doctors administering them want to ensure a good income from them. They care two hoots about medical ethics and the fate of the children who will receive these vaccines. Vaccines containing nano particles and viruses and also plant based genetically honest doctors worldwide are opposing modified vaccines. The above points are not all exhaustive. If after reading all this you still want to vaccinate your child, please go ahead. You deserve a vaccine-damaged child. ----------------xxxxxxxxxxxx------------------ "It is now 30 years since I have been confining myself to the treatment ofchronic diseases. During those 30 years I have run against so many histories of littlechildren who had never seen a sick day until they were vaccinated and who, in the severalyears that have followed, have never seen a well day since. I couldn't put my finger onthe disease they have. They just weren't strong. Their resistance was gone. They wereperfectly well before they were vaccinated. They have never been well since. "---Dr. Hay Health_and_Healing - PULSE ON 21st CENTURY ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE! Health_and_HealingSubscribe:......... Health_and_Healing-subscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 My son 29 months old has had the flu twice - both times he recovered within 3 days while my parents and brother were sick for 2 weeks. I would like to add that the first time he had the flu he was 5 months old. We didn't give him anything at all except for some freshly juiced lemons and I ate a lot of garlic (was breastfeeding). Vaccines will be the cause of his illness if you get him vaccinated - not polio that's " in the air " (which is a ridiculous statement, sounds like fear-mongering propaganda to me).Please keep him vaccine-free. The healthiest babies I know are the ones who've never been vaxed. On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Ingrid Blank <enb1@...> wrote: In the air? Who invented this myth? I know plenty of children, including my own grandchildren, who have never been vaccinated and are not only doing great but have never been sick contrary to their vaccinated counterparts. I myself have never been vaccinated and contracted all these allegedly " life-threatening " diseases, e.g. measles, mumps, rubella, chickenpox, pertussis, which provided me with life-long immunity which a vaccine will never do and an uncompromised immune system. Have a look at the links below. Ingrid http://www.whale.to/vaccines/money_mag.html http://www.newswithviews.com/Howenstine/james170.htm I have a question. I don't want to have my 8 month old vaccinated again but a friend of mine told me that the polio virus could still be in the air. Can I please hear from other people with children who have not been vaccinated and are doing fine? I don't know what to do. I don;'t want my baby to get ill but I also don't want him to receive vaccines. If you can provide some examples of children who have done well w/o vaccines please let me know. I have just woken up in the last 5 months to so much. I have been asleep for 32 years so needless to say, I am worried. Any helpful information will be greatly appreciated! From: Ingrid Blank <enb1@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:51:12 PMSubject: 40 Infallible Reasons Why You Should Never Vaccinate Infants. 40 Reasons Why You Should Never Vaccinate Infants: - Jagannath Chatterjee.( Fighting Vaccines Since 1985). There is no scientific study to determine whether vaccines have really prevented diseases. Rather disease graphs show vaccines have been introduced at the fag end of epidemics when the disease was already in its last stages. In case of Small Pox the vaccine actually caused a great spurt in the incidence of disease killing thousands before public outcry led to its withdrawal. There are no long-term studies on vaccine safety. Very short-term unscientific tests are carried out where the vaccinated subjects are checked against another group who are given another vaccine. Technically the tests should be carried out against a non-vaccinated group. No one really knows what protocols are followed at such industry-sponsored trials. There has never been any attempt to compare a vaccinated population against a non vaccinated population to know what vaccines are doing to the children and the society. The child receives not one but many vaccines. There are no tests to determine the effects of multiple vaccines. There is no scientific basis for vaccinating infants. As per senior doctors quoted by the Times of India, " Children suffer from less that 2% of vaccine preventable illnesses but 100% of the vaccines are targeted towards them. " The vaccine pioneers who have recommended abundant caution before vaccinating the population have never advocated Mass vaccinations. Children are vaccinated simply because parents can be frightened to forcefully vaccinate their children. Vaccinating infants is the most profitable business both for the manufacturers as well as the doctors. The Government of India has come out with a quarter page advertisement in The Hindu warning parents not to vaccinate beyond the Government approved vaccines. Parents have been advised against vaccinating in private clinics and hospitals. The Orissa Chapter of the Indian Association of Pediatricians has admitted in a letter to the CM, Orissa, that private clinics and hospitals are ill equipped to store vaccines and warned parents not to vaccinate upon the advise of private practitioners and hospitals. ALL THE VACCINE INGREDIENTS ARE EXTREMELY TOXIC IN NATURE. Vaccines contain heavy metals, cancer causing substances, toxic chemicals, live and genetically modified viruses, contaminated serum containing animal viruses and foreign genetic material, extremely toxic decontaminants and adjuvants, untested antibiotics, none of which can be injected without causing any harm. The mercury, aluminum and live viruses in vaccines is behind the huge epidemic of autism (1 in 10 worldwide as per doctors in the USA), a fact that has been admitted by the US Vaccine Court. The CDC of USA, the vaccine watchdog, has publicly admitted that its much-publicized 2003 study denying any link between vaccines and autism, is flawed. The Chief of CDC Dr Gerberding has confessed to the media (CNN) that vaccines can cause " autism like symptoms " . The Autism epidemic is found only in those countries that have allowed mass vaccinations. In the year 1999, the US Government instructed vaccine manufacturers to remove mercury from vaccines " with immediate effect " . But mercury still remains a part of many vaccines. The vaccines with mercury were never recalled and were given to children up to the year 2006. " Mercury free " vaccines contain 0.05mcg of mercury, enough to permanently damage a infant. IN INDIA NO ATTEMPT HAS BEEN MADE TO ENSURE THAT MERCURY AND OTHER HEAVY METALS ARE REMOVED FROM VACCINES SIMPLY BECAUSE IT WOULD MAKE VACCINES COSTLIER. In a reply to then President Sri Abdul Kalam, the Health Ministry informed, " mercury is required to make the vaccines safe " . To the authors query that " what are these vaccines that it requires the second most dangerous neurotoxin, mercury, to make them safe? " , there was no reply. Mercury used in vaccines is second in toxicity only to the radioactive substance, Uranium. It is a neurotoxin that can damage the entire nervous system of the infant in no time. Mercury accumulates in fat. The brain being made entirely of fat cells, most of the mercury accumulates there giving rise to the peculiar symptoms of the autistic children. The mercury used in vaccines is ethyl mercury. According to Indian doctors this is 1000 times more toxic than the usual methyl mercury. The aluminum present in vaccines makes the mercury, in any form, 100 times more toxic. As per an independent study aluminum and formaldehyde present in vaccines can increase the toxicity of mercury, in any form, by 1000 times. As per a Tehelka article on Autism, children are receiving 250 times more mercury through vaccines than they can possibly tolerate. The same article states that if one considers the WHO limit for mercury in water, they are receiving 50,000 times the limit. The limits set, incidentally, are for adults and not infants. Autism in India has emerged as the most rapidly growing epidemic amongst children. From 1 in 500 it has steadily climbed to 1 in 37 today. As per Indian doctors, " You can go to any class of any school today and find an autistic child. " Autism is a permanent disability that affects the child physically, mentally and emotionally. It makes the child loose social contact. It impedes both the physical and mental growth of the child. It destroys the brain causing severe memory and attention problems. According to vaccine researcher Dr Coulter, vaccines cause children to become pervert and criminal. All the school shootings by the children in the USA are by autistic children. Vaccines can cause more harm that even the medical community privately acknowledges. Autistic children also suffer from severe bowel disorders. As per Dr Wakefield, this is due to the vaccine strain live measles virus in the MMR vaccine. Nearly all children become fully autistic after the MMR shot. The DPT also causes children to regress giving rise to fears that multiple live virus vaccines are an important cause behind autism. If three live viruses can cause so much harm we can well imagine what today's five and seven viruses vaccines will do to children. Before the autism epidemic, it is already well known that vaccines have caused the cancer epidemic in today's society. Both the Small Pox and the Oral Polio Vaccine are made from monkey serum. This serum has helped many cancer causing monkey viruses, 60 found so far, to enter the human blood stream. It is also known that it is the use of green monkey serum in vaccines that has led to the transfer of the Sivian Immune deficiency Virus (SIV) from monkeys into humans. The SIV and the HIV that causes AIDS are very similar. Not only AIDS, a blood cancer in infants (Acute Lymphoblastic Leukemia) that is affecting children in thousands is also due to the extremely toxic nature of vaccine ingredients. Infantile jaundice and also infantile diabetes is also scientifically connected to the toxic vaccines. The live polio viruses used in the Oral Polio Vaccine has caused Vaccine Attributed Paralytic Polio in more than 65,000 children as per doctors of the Indian Medical Association. In the USA this vaccine has caused polio 16 years after administration. The OPV has also let loose a new strain of polio in both India and Africa. The OPV is banned in other countries. Vaccines contain serum from not only chimpanzees and monkeys but also from cows, pigs, chickens, eggs, horses, and even human serum and tissues extracted from aborted fetuses. Deaths and permanent disability from vaccines is very common and known by the medical community. They are instructed by the Government to keep quiet and not to associate such cases with vaccines. Many doctors argue that diseases during childhood are due to the body exercising its immune system. Suppressing these diseases causes the immune system to remain undeveloped causing the various autoimmune disorders like diabetes and arthritis that have become epidemics today. Vaccines suppress the natural immunity and the body does not have natural antibodies anymore. The mothers milk therefore does not contain natural antibodies and can no longer protect the child against illnesses. In the USA vaccine adverse effects are recorded and the Government offers compensation of millions of dollars to victims (the most recent case in its Vaccine Court may have received upto $200 million in damages). The Indian Government simply refuses to acknowledge that vaccines can cause deaths and permanent disability. It has been scientifically proven that vaccines cannot prevent disease. Vaccines try to create humoral (blood related immunity) whereas it has been found that immunity is developed at various levels, humoral as well as cellular. We still do not know enough about the human immune system and therefore should not interfere with it. In the USA parents are informed about vaccine after effects and their consent has to be taken before vaccinating their children. In India the Government assures the population through massive advertising campaigns that vaccines are extremely safe. Parents refusing to vaccinate are threatened by the administration. THERE IS NO SYSTEM OF TREATMENT TO TREAT A VACCINE DAMAGED CHILD. The parents have to run from one hospital to another. The Government turns a blind eye and refuses to even acknowledge the vaccine connection. Medical doctors have challenged even the vaccines recommended by the Government of India. The BCG vaccine for tuberculosis has been extensively tested in India as long back as 1961 and found to be totally ineffective. The OPV is causing polio and other neurological and intestinal disorders in tens of thousands of Indian children. The Hep-B vaccine introduced recently is not meant for children at all, it is a vaccine for a sexually transmitted disease that should be targeted only at promiscuous adults. The tetanus vaccine contains both aluminum and mercury besides the tetanus toxoid. The doctors themselves avoid the DPT as it is one of the most toxic vaccines ever devised. The measles vaccine is a vaccine that regularly causes severe adverse effects and the health workers want it out. The pediatricians are introducing dubious vaccines in India, which are being opposed by the doctors, politicians, and public in American and European countries. The Rotavirus vaccine, Hib vaccine, HPV vaccine and the various multi various vaccines being introduced without any kind of testing is only because the vaccine manufacturers and the doctors administering them want to ensure a good income from them. They care two hoots about medical ethics and the fate of the children who will receive these vaccines. Vaccines containing nano particles and viruses and also plant based genetically honest doctors worldwide are opposing modified vaccines. The above points are not all exhaustive. If after reading all this you still want to vaccinate your child, please go ahead. You deserve a vaccine-damaged child. ------------ ----xxxxxxxxxxxx --------- --------- " It is now 30 years since I have been confining myself to the treatment ofchronic diseases. During those 30 years I have run against so many histories of littlechildren who had never seen a sick day until they were vaccinated and who, in the severalyears that have followed, have never seen a well day since. I couldn't put my finger onthe disease they have. They just weren't strong. Their resistance was gone. They wereperfectly well before they were vaccinated. They have never been well since. " ---Dr. Hay Health_and_Healing - PULSE ON 21st CENTURY ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE! http://groups. / group/Health_ and_HealingSubscribe:.. ....... Health_and_Healing- subscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 My son 29 months old has had the flu twice - both times he recovered within 3 days while my parents and brother were sick for 2 weeks. I would like to add that the first time he had the flu he was 5 months old. We didn't give him anything at all except for some freshly juiced lemons and I ate a lot of garlic (was breastfeeding). Vaccines will be the cause of his illness if you get him vaccinated - not polio that's " in the air " (which is a ridiculous statement, sounds like fear-mongering propaganda to me).Please keep him vaccine-free. The healthiest babies I know are the ones who've never been vaxed. On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Ingrid Blank <enb1@...> wrote: In the air? Who invented this myth? I know plenty of children, including my own grandchildren, who have never been vaccinated and are not only doing great but have never been sick contrary to their vaccinated counterparts. I myself have never been vaccinated and contracted all these allegedly " life-threatening " diseases, e.g. measles, mumps, rubella, chickenpox, pertussis, which provided me with life-long immunity which a vaccine will never do and an uncompromised immune system. Have a look at the links below. Ingrid http://www.whale.to/vaccines/money_mag.html http://www.newswithviews.com/Howenstine/james170.htm I have a question. I don't want to have my 8 month old vaccinated again but a friend of mine told me that the polio virus could still be in the air. Can I please hear from other people with children who have not been vaccinated and are doing fine? I don't know what to do. I don;'t want my baby to get ill but I also don't want him to receive vaccines. If you can provide some examples of children who have done well w/o vaccines please let me know. I have just woken up in the last 5 months to so much. I have been asleep for 32 years so needless to say, I am worried. Any helpful information will be greatly appreciated! From: Ingrid Blank <enb1@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:51:12 PMSubject: 40 Infallible Reasons Why You Should Never Vaccinate Infants. 40 Reasons Why You Should Never Vaccinate Infants: - Jagannath Chatterjee.( Fighting Vaccines Since 1985). There is no scientific study to determine whether vaccines have really prevented diseases. Rather disease graphs show vaccines have been introduced at the fag end of epidemics when the disease was already in its last stages. In case of Small Pox the vaccine actually caused a great spurt in the incidence of disease killing thousands before public outcry led to its withdrawal. There are no long-term studies on vaccine safety. Very short-term unscientific tests are carried out where the vaccinated subjects are checked against another group who are given another vaccine. Technically the tests should be carried out against a non-vaccinated group. No one really knows what protocols are followed at such industry-sponsored trials. There has never been any attempt to compare a vaccinated population against a non vaccinated population to know what vaccines are doing to the children and the society. The child receives not one but many vaccines. There are no tests to determine the effects of multiple vaccines. There is no scientific basis for vaccinating infants. As per senior doctors quoted by the Times of India, " Children suffer from less that 2% of vaccine preventable illnesses but 100% of the vaccines are targeted towards them. " The vaccine pioneers who have recommended abundant caution before vaccinating the population have never advocated Mass vaccinations. Children are vaccinated simply because parents can be frightened to forcefully vaccinate their children. Vaccinating infants is the most profitable business both for the manufacturers as well as the doctors. The Government of India has come out with a quarter page advertisement in The Hindu warning parents not to vaccinate beyond the Government approved vaccines. Parents have been advised against vaccinating in private clinics and hospitals. The Orissa Chapter of the Indian Association of Pediatricians has admitted in a letter to the CM, Orissa, that private clinics and hospitals are ill equipped to store vaccines and warned parents not to vaccinate upon the advise of private practitioners and hospitals. ALL THE VACCINE INGREDIENTS ARE EXTREMELY TOXIC IN NATURE. Vaccines contain heavy metals, cancer causing substances, toxic chemicals, live and genetically modified viruses, contaminated serum containing animal viruses and foreign genetic material, extremely toxic decontaminants and adjuvants, untested antibiotics, none of which can be injected without causing any harm. The mercury, aluminum and live viruses in vaccines is behind the huge epidemic of autism (1 in 10 worldwide as per doctors in the USA), a fact that has been admitted by the US Vaccine Court. The CDC of USA, the vaccine watchdog, has publicly admitted that its much-publicized 2003 study denying any link between vaccines and autism, is flawed. The Chief of CDC Dr Gerberding has confessed to the media (CNN) that vaccines can cause " autism like symptoms " . The Autism epidemic is found only in those countries that have allowed mass vaccinations. In the year 1999, the US Government instructed vaccine manufacturers to remove mercury from vaccines " with immediate effect " . But mercury still remains a part of many vaccines. The vaccines with mercury were never recalled and were given to children up to the year 2006. " Mercury free " vaccines contain 0.05mcg of mercury, enough to permanently damage a infant. IN INDIA NO ATTEMPT HAS BEEN MADE TO ENSURE THAT MERCURY AND OTHER HEAVY METALS ARE REMOVED FROM VACCINES SIMPLY BECAUSE IT WOULD MAKE VACCINES COSTLIER. In a reply to then President Sri Abdul Kalam, the Health Ministry informed, " mercury is required to make the vaccines safe " . To the authors query that " what are these vaccines that it requires the second most dangerous neurotoxin, mercury, to make them safe? " , there was no reply. Mercury used in vaccines is second in toxicity only to the radioactive substance, Uranium. It is a neurotoxin that can damage the entire nervous system of the infant in no time. Mercury accumulates in fat. The brain being made entirely of fat cells, most of the mercury accumulates there giving rise to the peculiar symptoms of the autistic children. The mercury used in vaccines is ethyl mercury. According to Indian doctors this is 1000 times more toxic than the usual methyl mercury. The aluminum present in vaccines makes the mercury, in any form, 100 times more toxic. As per an independent study aluminum and formaldehyde present in vaccines can increase the toxicity of mercury, in any form, by 1000 times. As per a Tehelka article on Autism, children are receiving 250 times more mercury through vaccines than they can possibly tolerate. The same article states that if one considers the WHO limit for mercury in water, they are receiving 50,000 times the limit. The limits set, incidentally, are for adults and not infants. Autism in India has emerged as the most rapidly growing epidemic amongst children. From 1 in 500 it has steadily climbed to 1 in 37 today. As per Indian doctors, " You can go to any class of any school today and find an autistic child. " Autism is a permanent disability that affects the child physically, mentally and emotionally. It makes the child loose social contact. It impedes both the physical and mental growth of the child. It destroys the brain causing severe memory and attention problems. According to vaccine researcher Dr Coulter, vaccines cause children to become pervert and criminal. All the school shootings by the children in the USA are by autistic children. Vaccines can cause more harm that even the medical community privately acknowledges. Autistic children also suffer from severe bowel disorders. As per Dr Wakefield, this is due to the vaccine strain live measles virus in the MMR vaccine. Nearly all children become fully autistic after the MMR shot. The DPT also causes children to regress giving rise to fears that multiple live virus vaccines are an important cause behind autism. If three live viruses can cause so much harm we can well imagine what today's five and seven viruses vaccines will do to children. Before the autism epidemic, it is already well known that vaccines have caused the cancer epidemic in today's society. Both the Small Pox and the Oral Polio Vaccine are made from monkey serum. This serum has helped many cancer causing monkey viruses, 60 found so far, to enter the human blood stream. It is also known that it is the use of green monkey serum in vaccines that has led to the transfer of the Sivian Immune deficiency Virus (SIV) from monkeys into humans. The SIV and the HIV that causes AIDS are very similar. Not only AIDS, a blood cancer in infants (Acute Lymphoblastic Leukemia) that is affecting children in thousands is also due to the extremely toxic nature of vaccine ingredients. Infantile jaundice and also infantile diabetes is also scientifically connected to the toxic vaccines. The live polio viruses used in the Oral Polio Vaccine has caused Vaccine Attributed Paralytic Polio in more than 65,000 children as per doctors of the Indian Medical Association. In the USA this vaccine has caused polio 16 years after administration. The OPV has also let loose a new strain of polio in both India and Africa. The OPV is banned in other countries. Vaccines contain serum from not only chimpanzees and monkeys but also from cows, pigs, chickens, eggs, horses, and even human serum and tissues extracted from aborted fetuses. Deaths and permanent disability from vaccines is very common and known by the medical community. They are instructed by the Government to keep quiet and not to associate such cases with vaccines. Many doctors argue that diseases during childhood are due to the body exercising its immune system. Suppressing these diseases causes the immune system to remain undeveloped causing the various autoimmune disorders like diabetes and arthritis that have become epidemics today. Vaccines suppress the natural immunity and the body does not have natural antibodies anymore. The mothers milk therefore does not contain natural antibodies and can no longer protect the child against illnesses. In the USA vaccine adverse effects are recorded and the Government offers compensation of millions of dollars to victims (the most recent case in its Vaccine Court may have received upto $200 million in damages). The Indian Government simply refuses to acknowledge that vaccines can cause deaths and permanent disability. It has been scientifically proven that vaccines cannot prevent disease. Vaccines try to create humoral (blood related immunity) whereas it has been found that immunity is developed at various levels, humoral as well as cellular. We still do not know enough about the human immune system and therefore should not interfere with it. In the USA parents are informed about vaccine after effects and their consent has to be taken before vaccinating their children. In India the Government assures the population through massive advertising campaigns that vaccines are extremely safe. Parents refusing to vaccinate are threatened by the administration. THERE IS NO SYSTEM OF TREATMENT TO TREAT A VACCINE DAMAGED CHILD. The parents have to run from one hospital to another. The Government turns a blind eye and refuses to even acknowledge the vaccine connection. Medical doctors have challenged even the vaccines recommended by the Government of India. The BCG vaccine for tuberculosis has been extensively tested in India as long back as 1961 and found to be totally ineffective. The OPV is causing polio and other neurological and intestinal disorders in tens of thousands of Indian children. The Hep-B vaccine introduced recently is not meant for children at all, it is a vaccine for a sexually transmitted disease that should be targeted only at promiscuous adults. The tetanus vaccine contains both aluminum and mercury besides the tetanus toxoid. The doctors themselves avoid the DPT as it is one of the most toxic vaccines ever devised. The measles vaccine is a vaccine that regularly causes severe adverse effects and the health workers want it out. The pediatricians are introducing dubious vaccines in India, which are being opposed by the doctors, politicians, and public in American and European countries. The Rotavirus vaccine, Hib vaccine, HPV vaccine and the various multi various vaccines being introduced without any kind of testing is only because the vaccine manufacturers and the doctors administering them want to ensure a good income from them. They care two hoots about medical ethics and the fate of the children who will receive these vaccines. Vaccines containing nano particles and viruses and also plant based genetically honest doctors worldwide are opposing modified vaccines. The above points are not all exhaustive. If after reading all this you still want to vaccinate your child, please go ahead. You deserve a vaccine-damaged child. ------------ ----xxxxxxxxxxxx --------- --------- " It is now 30 years since I have been confining myself to the treatment ofchronic diseases. During those 30 years I have run against so many histories of littlechildren who had never seen a sick day until they were vaccinated and who, in the severalyears that have followed, have never seen a well day since. I couldn't put my finger onthe disease they have. They just weren't strong. Their resistance was gone. They wereperfectly well before they were vaccinated. They have never been well since. " ---Dr. Hay Health_and_Healing - PULSE ON 21st CENTURY ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE! http://groups. / group/Health_ and_HealingSubscribe:.. ....... Health_and_Healing- subscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 My son 29 months old has had the flu twice - both times he recovered within 3 days while my parents and brother were sick for 2 weeks. I would like to add that the first time he had the flu he was 5 months old. We didn't give him anything at all except for some freshly juiced lemons and I ate a lot of garlic (was breastfeeding). Vaccines will be the cause of his illness if you get him vaccinated - not polio that's " in the air " (which is a ridiculous statement, sounds like fear-mongering propaganda to me).Please keep him vaccine-free. The healthiest babies I know are the ones who've never been vaxed. On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Ingrid Blank <enb1@...> wrote: In the air? Who invented this myth? I know plenty of children, including my own grandchildren, who have never been vaccinated and are not only doing great but have never been sick contrary to their vaccinated counterparts. I myself have never been vaccinated and contracted all these allegedly " life-threatening " diseases, e.g. measles, mumps, rubella, chickenpox, pertussis, which provided me with life-long immunity which a vaccine will never do and an uncompromised immune system. Have a look at the links below. Ingrid http://www.whale.to/vaccines/money_mag.html http://www.newswithviews.com/Howenstine/james170.htm I have a question. I don't want to have my 8 month old vaccinated again but a friend of mine told me that the polio virus could still be in the air. Can I please hear from other people with children who have not been vaccinated and are doing fine? I don't know what to do. I don;'t want my baby to get ill but I also don't want him to receive vaccines. If you can provide some examples of children who have done well w/o vaccines please let me know. I have just woken up in the last 5 months to so much. I have been asleep for 32 years so needless to say, I am worried. Any helpful information will be greatly appreciated! From: Ingrid Blank <enb1@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:51:12 PMSubject: 40 Infallible Reasons Why You Should Never Vaccinate Infants. 40 Reasons Why You Should Never Vaccinate Infants: - Jagannath Chatterjee.( Fighting Vaccines Since 1985). There is no scientific study to determine whether vaccines have really prevented diseases. Rather disease graphs show vaccines have been introduced at the fag end of epidemics when the disease was already in its last stages. In case of Small Pox the vaccine actually caused a great spurt in the incidence of disease killing thousands before public outcry led to its withdrawal. There are no long-term studies on vaccine safety. Very short-term unscientific tests are carried out where the vaccinated subjects are checked against another group who are given another vaccine. Technically the tests should be carried out against a non-vaccinated group. No one really knows what protocols are followed at such industry-sponsored trials. There has never been any attempt to compare a vaccinated population against a non vaccinated population to know what vaccines are doing to the children and the society. The child receives not one but many vaccines. There are no tests to determine the effects of multiple vaccines. There is no scientific basis for vaccinating infants. As per senior doctors quoted by the Times of India, " Children suffer from less that 2% of vaccine preventable illnesses but 100% of the vaccines are targeted towards them. " The vaccine pioneers who have recommended abundant caution before vaccinating the population have never advocated Mass vaccinations. Children are vaccinated simply because parents can be frightened to forcefully vaccinate their children. Vaccinating infants is the most profitable business both for the manufacturers as well as the doctors. The Government of India has come out with a quarter page advertisement in The Hindu warning parents not to vaccinate beyond the Government approved vaccines. Parents have been advised against vaccinating in private clinics and hospitals. The Orissa Chapter of the Indian Association of Pediatricians has admitted in a letter to the CM, Orissa, that private clinics and hospitals are ill equipped to store vaccines and warned parents not to vaccinate upon the advise of private practitioners and hospitals. ALL THE VACCINE INGREDIENTS ARE EXTREMELY TOXIC IN NATURE. Vaccines contain heavy metals, cancer causing substances, toxic chemicals, live and genetically modified viruses, contaminated serum containing animal viruses and foreign genetic material, extremely toxic decontaminants and adjuvants, untested antibiotics, none of which can be injected without causing any harm. The mercury, aluminum and live viruses in vaccines is behind the huge epidemic of autism (1 in 10 worldwide as per doctors in the USA), a fact that has been admitted by the US Vaccine Court. The CDC of USA, the vaccine watchdog, has publicly admitted that its much-publicized 2003 study denying any link between vaccines and autism, is flawed. The Chief of CDC Dr Gerberding has confessed to the media (CNN) that vaccines can cause " autism like symptoms " . The Autism epidemic is found only in those countries that have allowed mass vaccinations. In the year 1999, the US Government instructed vaccine manufacturers to remove mercury from vaccines " with immediate effect " . But mercury still remains a part of many vaccines. The vaccines with mercury were never recalled and were given to children up to the year 2006. " Mercury free " vaccines contain 0.05mcg of mercury, enough to permanently damage a infant. IN INDIA NO ATTEMPT HAS BEEN MADE TO ENSURE THAT MERCURY AND OTHER HEAVY METALS ARE REMOVED FROM VACCINES SIMPLY BECAUSE IT WOULD MAKE VACCINES COSTLIER. In a reply to then President Sri Abdul Kalam, the Health Ministry informed, " mercury is required to make the vaccines safe " . To the authors query that " what are these vaccines that it requires the second most dangerous neurotoxin, mercury, to make them safe? " , there was no reply. Mercury used in vaccines is second in toxicity only to the radioactive substance, Uranium. It is a neurotoxin that can damage the entire nervous system of the infant in no time. Mercury accumulates in fat. The brain being made entirely of fat cells, most of the mercury accumulates there giving rise to the peculiar symptoms of the autistic children. The mercury used in vaccines is ethyl mercury. According to Indian doctors this is 1000 times more toxic than the usual methyl mercury. The aluminum present in vaccines makes the mercury, in any form, 100 times more toxic. As per an independent study aluminum and formaldehyde present in vaccines can increase the toxicity of mercury, in any form, by 1000 times. As per a Tehelka article on Autism, children are receiving 250 times more mercury through vaccines than they can possibly tolerate. The same article states that if one considers the WHO limit for mercury in water, they are receiving 50,000 times the limit. The limits set, incidentally, are for adults and not infants. Autism in India has emerged as the most rapidly growing epidemic amongst children. From 1 in 500 it has steadily climbed to 1 in 37 today. As per Indian doctors, " You can go to any class of any school today and find an autistic child. " Autism is a permanent disability that affects the child physically, mentally and emotionally. It makes the child loose social contact. It impedes both the physical and mental growth of the child. It destroys the brain causing severe memory and attention problems. According to vaccine researcher Dr Coulter, vaccines cause children to become pervert and criminal. All the school shootings by the children in the USA are by autistic children. Vaccines can cause more harm that even the medical community privately acknowledges. Autistic children also suffer from severe bowel disorders. As per Dr Wakefield, this is due to the vaccine strain live measles virus in the MMR vaccine. Nearly all children become fully autistic after the MMR shot. The DPT also causes children to regress giving rise to fears that multiple live virus vaccines are an important cause behind autism. If three live viruses can cause so much harm we can well imagine what today's five and seven viruses vaccines will do to children. Before the autism epidemic, it is already well known that vaccines have caused the cancer epidemic in today's society. Both the Small Pox and the Oral Polio Vaccine are made from monkey serum. This serum has helped many cancer causing monkey viruses, 60 found so far, to enter the human blood stream. It is also known that it is the use of green monkey serum in vaccines that has led to the transfer of the Sivian Immune deficiency Virus (SIV) from monkeys into humans. The SIV and the HIV that causes AIDS are very similar. Not only AIDS, a blood cancer in infants (Acute Lymphoblastic Leukemia) that is affecting children in thousands is also due to the extremely toxic nature of vaccine ingredients. Infantile jaundice and also infantile diabetes is also scientifically connected to the toxic vaccines. The live polio viruses used in the Oral Polio Vaccine has caused Vaccine Attributed Paralytic Polio in more than 65,000 children as per doctors of the Indian Medical Association. In the USA this vaccine has caused polio 16 years after administration. The OPV has also let loose a new strain of polio in both India and Africa. The OPV is banned in other countries. Vaccines contain serum from not only chimpanzees and monkeys but also from cows, pigs, chickens, eggs, horses, and even human serum and tissues extracted from aborted fetuses. Deaths and permanent disability from vaccines is very common and known by the medical community. They are instructed by the Government to keep quiet and not to associate such cases with vaccines. Many doctors argue that diseases during childhood are due to the body exercising its immune system. Suppressing these diseases causes the immune system to remain undeveloped causing the various autoimmune disorders like diabetes and arthritis that have become epidemics today. Vaccines suppress the natural immunity and the body does not have natural antibodies anymore. The mothers milk therefore does not contain natural antibodies and can no longer protect the child against illnesses. In the USA vaccine adverse effects are recorded and the Government offers compensation of millions of dollars to victims (the most recent case in its Vaccine Court may have received upto $200 million in damages). The Indian Government simply refuses to acknowledge that vaccines can cause deaths and permanent disability. It has been scientifically proven that vaccines cannot prevent disease. Vaccines try to create humoral (blood related immunity) whereas it has been found that immunity is developed at various levels, humoral as well as cellular. We still do not know enough about the human immune system and therefore should not interfere with it. In the USA parents are informed about vaccine after effects and their consent has to be taken before vaccinating their children. In India the Government assures the population through massive advertising campaigns that vaccines are extremely safe. Parents refusing to vaccinate are threatened by the administration. THERE IS NO SYSTEM OF TREATMENT TO TREAT A VACCINE DAMAGED CHILD. The parents have to run from one hospital to another. The Government turns a blind eye and refuses to even acknowledge the vaccine connection. Medical doctors have challenged even the vaccines recommended by the Government of India. The BCG vaccine for tuberculosis has been extensively tested in India as long back as 1961 and found to be totally ineffective. The OPV is causing polio and other neurological and intestinal disorders in tens of thousands of Indian children. The Hep-B vaccine introduced recently is not meant for children at all, it is a vaccine for a sexually transmitted disease that should be targeted only at promiscuous adults. The tetanus vaccine contains both aluminum and mercury besides the tetanus toxoid. The doctors themselves avoid the DPT as it is one of the most toxic vaccines ever devised. The measles vaccine is a vaccine that regularly causes severe adverse effects and the health workers want it out. The pediatricians are introducing dubious vaccines in India, which are being opposed by the doctors, politicians, and public in American and European countries. The Rotavirus vaccine, Hib vaccine, HPV vaccine and the various multi various vaccines being introduced without any kind of testing is only because the vaccine manufacturers and the doctors administering them want to ensure a good income from them. They care two hoots about medical ethics and the fate of the children who will receive these vaccines. Vaccines containing nano particles and viruses and also plant based genetically honest doctors worldwide are opposing modified vaccines. The above points are not all exhaustive. If after reading all this you still want to vaccinate your child, please go ahead. You deserve a vaccine-damaged child. ------------ ----xxxxxxxxxxxx --------- --------- " It is now 30 years since I have been confining myself to the treatment ofchronic diseases. During those 30 years I have run against so many histories of littlechildren who had never seen a sick day until they were vaccinated and who, in the severalyears that have followed, have never seen a well day since. I couldn't put my finger onthe disease they have. They just weren't strong. Their resistance was gone. They wereperfectly well before they were vaccinated. They have never been well since. " ---Dr. Hay Health_and_Healing - PULSE ON 21st CENTURY ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE! http://groups. / group/Health_ and_HealingSubscribe:.. ....... Health_and_Healing- subscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 My son 29 months old has had the flu twice - both times he recovered within 3 days while my parents and brother were sick for 2 weeks. I would like to add that the first time he had the flu he was 5 months old. We didn't give him anything at all except for some freshly juiced lemons and I ate a lot of garlic (was breastfeeding). Vaccines will be the cause of his illness if you get him vaccinated - not polio that's " in the air " (which is a ridiculous statement, sounds like fear-mongering propaganda to me).Please keep him vaccine-free. The healthiest babies I know are the ones who've never been vaxed. On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Ingrid Blank <enb1@...> wrote: In the air? Who invented this myth? I know plenty of children, including my own grandchildren, who have never been vaccinated and are not only doing great but have never been sick contrary to their vaccinated counterparts. I myself have never been vaccinated and contracted all these allegedly " life-threatening " diseases, e.g. measles, mumps, rubella, chickenpox, pertussis, which provided me with life-long immunity which a vaccine will never do and an uncompromised immune system. Have a look at the links below. Ingrid http://www.whale.to/vaccines/money_mag.html http://www.newswithviews.com/Howenstine/james170.htm I have a question. I don't want to have my 8 month old vaccinated again but a friend of mine told me that the polio virus could still be in the air. Can I please hear from other people with children who have not been vaccinated and are doing fine? I don't know what to do. I don;'t want my baby to get ill but I also don't want him to receive vaccines. If you can provide some examples of children who have done well w/o vaccines please let me know. I have just woken up in the last 5 months to so much. I have been asleep for 32 years so needless to say, I am worried. Any helpful information will be greatly appreciated! From: Ingrid Blank <enb1@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:51:12 PMSubject: 40 Infallible Reasons Why You Should Never Vaccinate Infants. 40 Reasons Why You Should Never Vaccinate Infants: - Jagannath Chatterjee.( Fighting Vaccines Since 1985). There is no scientific study to determine whether vaccines have really prevented diseases. Rather disease graphs show vaccines have been introduced at the fag end of epidemics when the disease was already in its last stages. In case of Small Pox the vaccine actually caused a great spurt in the incidence of disease killing thousands before public outcry led to its withdrawal. There are no long-term studies on vaccine safety. Very short-term unscientific tests are carried out where the vaccinated subjects are checked against another group who are given another vaccine. Technically the tests should be carried out against a non-vaccinated group. No one really knows what protocols are followed at such industry-sponsored trials. There has never been any attempt to compare a vaccinated population against a non vaccinated population to know what vaccines are doing to the children and the society. The child receives not one but many vaccines. There are no tests to determine the effects of multiple vaccines. There is no scientific basis for vaccinating infants. As per senior doctors quoted by the Times of India, " Children suffer from less that 2% of vaccine preventable illnesses but 100% of the vaccines are targeted towards them. " The vaccine pioneers who have recommended abundant caution before vaccinating the population have never advocated Mass vaccinations. Children are vaccinated simply because parents can be frightened to forcefully vaccinate their children. Vaccinating infants is the most profitable business both for the manufacturers as well as the doctors. The Government of India has come out with a quarter page advertisement in The Hindu warning parents not to vaccinate beyond the Government approved vaccines. Parents have been advised against vaccinating in private clinics and hospitals. The Orissa Chapter of the Indian Association of Pediatricians has admitted in a letter to the CM, Orissa, that private clinics and hospitals are ill equipped to store vaccines and warned parents not to vaccinate upon the advise of private practitioners and hospitals. ALL THE VACCINE INGREDIENTS ARE EXTREMELY TOXIC IN NATURE. Vaccines contain heavy metals, cancer causing substances, toxic chemicals, live and genetically modified viruses, contaminated serum containing animal viruses and foreign genetic material, extremely toxic decontaminants and adjuvants, untested antibiotics, none of which can be injected without causing any harm. The mercury, aluminum and live viruses in vaccines is behind the huge epidemic of autism (1 in 10 worldwide as per doctors in the USA), a fact that has been admitted by the US Vaccine Court. The CDC of USA, the vaccine watchdog, has publicly admitted that its much-publicized 2003 study denying any link between vaccines and autism, is flawed. The Chief of CDC Dr Gerberding has confessed to the media (CNN) that vaccines can cause " autism like symptoms " . The Autism epidemic is found only in those countries that have allowed mass vaccinations. In the year 1999, the US Government instructed vaccine manufacturers to remove mercury from vaccines " with immediate effect " . But mercury still remains a part of many vaccines. The vaccines with mercury were never recalled and were given to children up to the year 2006. " Mercury free " vaccines contain 0.05mcg of mercury, enough to permanently damage a infant. IN INDIA NO ATTEMPT HAS BEEN MADE TO ENSURE THAT MERCURY AND OTHER HEAVY METALS ARE REMOVED FROM VACCINES SIMPLY BECAUSE IT WOULD MAKE VACCINES COSTLIER. In a reply to then President Sri Abdul Kalam, the Health Ministry informed, " mercury is required to make the vaccines safe " . To the authors query that " what are these vaccines that it requires the second most dangerous neurotoxin, mercury, to make them safe? " , there was no reply. Mercury used in vaccines is second in toxicity only to the radioactive substance, Uranium. It is a neurotoxin that can damage the entire nervous system of the infant in no time. Mercury accumulates in fat. The brain being made entirely of fat cells, most of the mercury accumulates there giving rise to the peculiar symptoms of the autistic children. The mercury used in vaccines is ethyl mercury. According to Indian doctors this is 1000 times more toxic than the usual methyl mercury. The aluminum present in vaccines makes the mercury, in any form, 100 times more toxic. As per an independent study aluminum and formaldehyde present in vaccines can increase the toxicity of mercury, in any form, by 1000 times. As per a Tehelka article on Autism, children are receiving 250 times more mercury through vaccines than they can possibly tolerate. The same article states that if one considers the WHO limit for mercury in water, they are receiving 50,000 times the limit. The limits set, incidentally, are for adults and not infants. Autism in India has emerged as the most rapidly growing epidemic amongst children. From 1 in 500 it has steadily climbed to 1 in 37 today. As per Indian doctors, " You can go to any class of any school today and find an autistic child. " Autism is a permanent disability that affects the child physically, mentally and emotionally. It makes the child loose social contact. It impedes both the physical and mental growth of the child. It destroys the brain causing severe memory and attention problems. According to vaccine researcher Dr Coulter, vaccines cause children to become pervert and criminal. All the school shootings by the children in the USA are by autistic children. Vaccines can cause more harm that even the medical community privately acknowledges. Autistic children also suffer from severe bowel disorders. As per Dr Wakefield, this is due to the vaccine strain live measles virus in the MMR vaccine. Nearly all children become fully autistic after the MMR shot. The DPT also causes children to regress giving rise to fears that multiple live virus vaccines are an important cause behind autism. If three live viruses can cause so much harm we can well imagine what today's five and seven viruses vaccines will do to children. Before the autism epidemic, it is already well known that vaccines have caused the cancer epidemic in today's society. Both the Small Pox and the Oral Polio Vaccine are made from monkey serum. This serum has helped many cancer causing monkey viruses, 60 found so far, to enter the human blood stream. It is also known that it is the use of green monkey serum in vaccines that has led to the transfer of the Sivian Immune deficiency Virus (SIV) from monkeys into humans. The SIV and the HIV that causes AIDS are very similar. Not only AIDS, a blood cancer in infants (Acute Lymphoblastic Leukemia) that is affecting children in thousands is also due to the extremely toxic nature of vaccine ingredients. Infantile jaundice and also infantile diabetes is also scientifically connected to the toxic vaccines. The live polio viruses used in the Oral Polio Vaccine has caused Vaccine Attributed Paralytic Polio in more than 65,000 children as per doctors of the Indian Medical Association. In the USA this vaccine has caused polio 16 years after administration. The OPV has also let loose a new strain of polio in both India and Africa. The OPV is banned in other countries. Vaccines contain serum from not only chimpanzees and monkeys but also from cows, pigs, chickens, eggs, horses, and even human serum and tissues extracted from aborted fetuses. Deaths and permanent disability from vaccines is very common and known by the medical community. They are instructed by the Government to keep quiet and not to associate such cases with vaccines. Many doctors argue that diseases during childhood are due to the body exercising its immune system. Suppressing these diseases causes the immune system to remain undeveloped causing the various autoimmune disorders like diabetes and arthritis that have become epidemics today. Vaccines suppress the natural immunity and the body does not have natural antibodies anymore. The mothers milk therefore does not contain natural antibodies and can no longer protect the child against illnesses. In the USA vaccine adverse effects are recorded and the Government offers compensation of millions of dollars to victims (the most recent case in its Vaccine Court may have received upto $200 million in damages). The Indian Government simply refuses to acknowledge that vaccines can cause deaths and permanent disability. It has been scientifically proven that vaccines cannot prevent disease. Vaccines try to create humoral (blood related immunity) whereas it has been found that immunity is developed at various levels, humoral as well as cellular. We still do not know enough about the human immune system and therefore should not interfere with it. In the USA parents are informed about vaccine after effects and their consent has to be taken before vaccinating their children. In India the Government assures the population through massive advertising campaigns that vaccines are extremely safe. Parents refusing to vaccinate are threatened by the administration. THERE IS NO SYSTEM OF TREATMENT TO TREAT A VACCINE DAMAGED CHILD. The parents have to run from one hospital to another. The Government turns a blind eye and refuses to even acknowledge the vaccine connection. Medical doctors have challenged even the vaccines recommended by the Government of India. The BCG vaccine for tuberculosis has been extensively tested in India as long back as 1961 and found to be totally ineffective. The OPV is causing polio and other neurological and intestinal disorders in tens of thousands of Indian children. The Hep-B vaccine introduced recently is not meant for children at all, it is a vaccine for a sexually transmitted disease that should be targeted only at promiscuous adults. The tetanus vaccine contains both aluminum and mercury besides the tetanus toxoid. The doctors themselves avoid the DPT as it is one of the most toxic vaccines ever devised. The measles vaccine is a vaccine that regularly causes severe adverse effects and the health workers want it out. The pediatricians are introducing dubious vaccines in India, which are being opposed by the doctors, politicians, and public in American and European countries. The Rotavirus vaccine, Hib vaccine, HPV vaccine and the various multi various vaccines being introduced without any kind of testing is only because the vaccine manufacturers and the doctors administering them want to ensure a good income from them. They care two hoots about medical ethics and the fate of the children who will receive these vaccines. Vaccines containing nano particles and viruses and also plant based genetically honest doctors worldwide are opposing modified vaccines. The above points are not all exhaustive. If after reading all this you still want to vaccinate your child, please go ahead. You deserve a vaccine-damaged child. ------------ ----xxxxxxxxxxxx --------- --------- " It is now 30 years since I have been confining myself to the treatment ofchronic diseases. During those 30 years I have run against so many histories of littlechildren who had never seen a sick day until they were vaccinated and who, in the severalyears that have followed, have never seen a well day since. I couldn't put my finger onthe disease they have. They just weren't strong. Their resistance was gone. They wereperfectly well before they were vaccinated. They have never been well since. " ---Dr. Hay Health_and_Healing - PULSE ON 21st CENTURY ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE! http://groups. / group/Health_ and_HealingSubscribe:.. ....... Health_and_Healing- subscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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