Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Dave, Thank you for your concern, it's just tearing me apart and not getting any better. My pain dr. seems to think that stress is making me hurt more. Don't know about that. Thank goodness you're wrong about my daughters' concern about my health, she and I have always been very close, we went through hell together, part of her on doing in her teens with wrong choices, but she's just afraid I'm going to be terribly sick and she'll lose me forever-not for financial reasons. She is so sweet and giving, and her husband is falling into deeper depression. I'm afraid he'll do something to himself, his mother lives near them and won't even come by now. She has no one to stay with up there. I know if she had a place, she could get all the basic help you mentioned, it's just everything is full up because of the economy, and the season. My back has begun to spasm, my dr. just wants to give me an injection, and tells me to try to calm down. I asked if it were possible for me to have fibromyalgia, he doesn't think so, he said I have to be hurting in 26 places, and he said that taking opiates makes fibro. pain worse. I don't know what he was trying to say, he was backlogged on patients, and I could see he just wanted to get on to the next person. Have so much to do, not enough time, or strength, but I'll do it. My husband will help if I need him to, but he's already hurting so much, I hate to put more on his shoulders, he's been great about helping my daughter out, I feel so much guilt. We live in an apt. have no room for her and the 2 kids. We'd be kicked out for violating the lease. Well, thank you for letting me vent. I know things will work out in the long wrong, but I sure wish I had my physical health back to deal with my mental and emotional health. Take care, stay warm. Thank you Jeannie ________________________________ From: " tomhfsu@... " <tomhfsu@...> neck pain Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2008 6:59:04 AM Subject: Re: Dave..I have a question Dave, The chair that you use..Is it back friendly(I think it is called " ergonomic " ? )..If so where did you get it..I need to consider getting a chair that causes less pain in my pain when I sit in it.. Thanks, Tom In a message dated 12/8/2008 11:15:02 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, d.cruikshank@ comcast.net writes: At 04:20 AM 12/8/2008, you wrote: >Personally, because of all the stress I'm going through, I am very >angry and depressed. > >Jeannie Jeannie, I'm sorry to hear this. I agree with the others who replied and said you may have to just say know. You are in pain everyday and I'm sure your income is limited by your condition. You are not in a position to be a caregiver. You shouldn't especially in your condition and in this economy put yourself in deep debt. I think the advice of have your daughter move to Vegas may be a great idea. I'm not sure why you are scared for your daughters safety but if her husband is a threat to others and himself maybe he should check into a hospital. Even with no insurance they have to treat him. If they are that tight on money they should also be eligible for State or County assistance. Foodstamps, cash assistance, and medicaid. I know I received all three when we were at our worst financially. They should look into this. I may be reading into this wrong but is your daughter worried you will become ill because then you will no longer be able to help them? That seems rather self centered and not truly caring about your well being. I apologize if I'm misunderstanding your post or the relationship you have with your daughter. Dave ************ **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol. com/?optin= new-dp & icid= aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolco m00000010) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Dave, Thank you for your concern, it's just tearing me apart and not getting any better. My pain dr. seems to think that stress is making me hurt more. Don't know about that. Thank goodness you're wrong about my daughters' concern about my health, she and I have always been very close, we went through hell together, part of her on doing in her teens with wrong choices, but she's just afraid I'm going to be terribly sick and she'll lose me forever-not for financial reasons. She is so sweet and giving, and her husband is falling into deeper depression. I'm afraid he'll do something to himself, his mother lives near them and won't even come by now. She has no one to stay with up there. I know if she had a place, she could get all the basic help you mentioned, it's just everything is full up because of the economy, and the season. My back has begun to spasm, my dr. just wants to give me an injection, and tells me to try to calm down. I asked if it were possible for me to have fibromyalgia, he doesn't think so, he said I have to be hurting in 26 places, and he said that taking opiates makes fibro. pain worse. I don't know what he was trying to say, he was backlogged on patients, and I could see he just wanted to get on to the next person. Have so much to do, not enough time, or strength, but I'll do it. My husband will help if I need him to, but he's already hurting so much, I hate to put more on his shoulders, he's been great about helping my daughter out, I feel so much guilt. We live in an apt. have no room for her and the 2 kids. We'd be kicked out for violating the lease. Well, thank you for letting me vent. I know things will work out in the long wrong, but I sure wish I had my physical health back to deal with my mental and emotional health. Take care, stay warm. Thank you Jeannie ________________________________ From: " tomhfsu@... " <tomhfsu@...> neck pain Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2008 6:59:04 AM Subject: Re: Dave..I have a question Dave, The chair that you use..Is it back friendly(I think it is called " ergonomic " ? )..If so where did you get it..I need to consider getting a chair that causes less pain in my pain when I sit in it.. Thanks, Tom In a message dated 12/8/2008 11:15:02 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, d.cruikshank@ comcast.net writes: At 04:20 AM 12/8/2008, you wrote: >Personally, because of all the stress I'm going through, I am very >angry and depressed. > >Jeannie Jeannie, I'm sorry to hear this. I agree with the others who replied and said you may have to just say know. You are in pain everyday and I'm sure your income is limited by your condition. You are not in a position to be a caregiver. You shouldn't especially in your condition and in this economy put yourself in deep debt. I think the advice of have your daughter move to Vegas may be a great idea. I'm not sure why you are scared for your daughters safety but if her husband is a threat to others and himself maybe he should check into a hospital. Even with no insurance they have to treat him. If they are that tight on money they should also be eligible for State or County assistance. Foodstamps, cash assistance, and medicaid. I know I received all three when we were at our worst financially. They should look into this. I may be reading into this wrong but is your daughter worried you will become ill because then you will no longer be able to help them? That seems rather self centered and not truly caring about your well being. I apologize if I'm misunderstanding your post or the relationship you have with your daughter. Dave ************ **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol. com/?optin= new-dp & icid= aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolco m00000010) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Dave, Thank you for your concern, it's just tearing me apart and not getting any better. My pain dr. seems to think that stress is making me hurt more. Don't know about that. Thank goodness you're wrong about my daughters' concern about my health, she and I have always been very close, we went through hell together, part of her on doing in her teens with wrong choices, but she's just afraid I'm going to be terribly sick and she'll lose me forever-not for financial reasons. She is so sweet and giving, and her husband is falling into deeper depression. I'm afraid he'll do something to himself, his mother lives near them and won't even come by now. She has no one to stay with up there. I know if she had a place, she could get all the basic help you mentioned, it's just everything is full up because of the economy, and the season. My back has begun to spasm, my dr. just wants to give me an injection, and tells me to try to calm down. I asked if it were possible for me to have fibromyalgia, he doesn't think so, he said I have to be hurting in 26 places, and he said that taking opiates makes fibro. pain worse. I don't know what he was trying to say, he was backlogged on patients, and I could see he just wanted to get on to the next person. Have so much to do, not enough time, or strength, but I'll do it. My husband will help if I need him to, but he's already hurting so much, I hate to put more on his shoulders, he's been great about helping my daughter out, I feel so much guilt. We live in an apt. have no room for her and the 2 kids. We'd be kicked out for violating the lease. Well, thank you for letting me vent. I know things will work out in the long wrong, but I sure wish I had my physical health back to deal with my mental and emotional health. Take care, stay warm. Thank you Jeannie ________________________________ From: " tomhfsu@... " <tomhfsu@...> neck pain Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2008 6:59:04 AM Subject: Re: Dave..I have a question Dave, The chair that you use..Is it back friendly(I think it is called " ergonomic " ? )..If so where did you get it..I need to consider getting a chair that causes less pain in my pain when I sit in it.. Thanks, Tom In a message dated 12/8/2008 11:15:02 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, d.cruikshank@ comcast.net writes: At 04:20 AM 12/8/2008, you wrote: >Personally, because of all the stress I'm going through, I am very >angry and depressed. > >Jeannie Jeannie, I'm sorry to hear this. I agree with the others who replied and said you may have to just say know. You are in pain everyday and I'm sure your income is limited by your condition. You are not in a position to be a caregiver. You shouldn't especially in your condition and in this economy put yourself in deep debt. I think the advice of have your daughter move to Vegas may be a great idea. I'm not sure why you are scared for your daughters safety but if her husband is a threat to others and himself maybe he should check into a hospital. Even with no insurance they have to treat him. If they are that tight on money they should also be eligible for State or County assistance. Foodstamps, cash assistance, and medicaid. I know I received all three when we were at our worst financially. They should look into this. I may be reading into this wrong but is your daughter worried you will become ill because then you will no longer be able to help them? That seems rather self centered and not truly caring about your well being. I apologize if I'm misunderstanding your post or the relationship you have with your daughter. Dave ************ **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol. com/?optin= new-dp & icid= aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolco m00000010) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Dave, Thank you for your concern, it's just tearing me apart and not getting any better. My pain dr. seems to think that stress is making me hurt more. Don't know about that. Thank goodness you're wrong about my daughters' concern about my health, she and I have always been very close, we went through hell together, part of her on doing in her teens with wrong choices, but she's just afraid I'm going to be terribly sick and she'll lose me forever-not for financial reasons. She is so sweet and giving, and her husband is falling into deeper depression. I'm afraid he'll do something to himself, his mother lives near them and won't even come by now. She has no one to stay with up there. I know if she had a place, she could get all the basic help you mentioned, it's just everything is full up because of the economy, and the season. My back has begun to spasm, my dr. just wants to give me an injection, and tells me to try to calm down. I asked if it were possible for me to have fibromyalgia, he doesn't think so, he said I have to be hurting in 26 places, and he said that taking opiates makes fibro. pain worse. I don't know what he was trying to say, he was backlogged on patients, and I could see he just wanted to get on to the next person. Have so much to do, not enough time, or strength, but I'll do it. My husband will help if I need him to, but he's already hurting so much, I hate to put more on his shoulders, he's been great about helping my daughter out, I feel so much guilt. We live in an apt. have no room for her and the 2 kids. We'd be kicked out for violating the lease. Well, thank you for letting me vent. I know things will work out in the long wrong, but I sure wish I had my physical health back to deal with my mental and emotional health. Take care, stay warm. Thank you Jeannie ________________________________ From: " tomhfsu@... " <tomhfsu@...> neck pain Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2008 6:59:04 AM Subject: Re: Dave..I have a question Dave, The chair that you use..Is it back friendly(I think it is called " ergonomic " ? )..If so where did you get it..I need to consider getting a chair that causes less pain in my pain when I sit in it.. Thanks, Tom In a message dated 12/8/2008 11:15:02 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, d.cruikshank@ comcast.net writes: At 04:20 AM 12/8/2008, you wrote: >Personally, because of all the stress I'm going through, I am very >angry and depressed. > >Jeannie Jeannie, I'm sorry to hear this. I agree with the others who replied and said you may have to just say know. You are in pain everyday and I'm sure your income is limited by your condition. You are not in a position to be a caregiver. You shouldn't especially in your condition and in this economy put yourself in deep debt. I think the advice of have your daughter move to Vegas may be a great idea. I'm not sure why you are scared for your daughters safety but if her husband is a threat to others and himself maybe he should check into a hospital. Even with no insurance they have to treat him. If they are that tight on money they should also be eligible for State or County assistance. Foodstamps, cash assistance, and medicaid. I know I received all three when we were at our worst financially. They should look into this. I may be reading into this wrong but is your daughter worried you will become ill because then you will no longer be able to help them? That seems rather self centered and not truly caring about your well being. I apologize if I'm misunderstanding your post or the relationship you have with your daughter. Dave ************ **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol. com/?optin= new-dp & icid= aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolco m00000010) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 At 09:21 PM 12/10/2008, you wrote: >Dave, >Thank you for your concern, it's just tearing me apart and not >getting any better. My pain dr. seems to think that stress is making >me hurt more. Don't know about that. Well glad I was wrong about your daughter. I have a 23 year old and she occasionally puts us through the wringer. She's been pretty stable for the last few years. Stress does cause more pain. I know it's true for me. When I get stressed my back pain increases greatly and takes quite awhile to calm down. So I agree with the Doc there. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 At 09:21 PM 12/10/2008, you wrote: >Dave, >Thank you for your concern, it's just tearing me apart and not >getting any better. My pain dr. seems to think that stress is making >me hurt more. Don't know about that. Well glad I was wrong about your daughter. I have a 23 year old and she occasionally puts us through the wringer. She's been pretty stable for the last few years. Stress does cause more pain. I know it's true for me. When I get stressed my back pain increases greatly and takes quite awhile to calm down. So I agree with the Doc there. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 At 09:21 PM 12/10/2008, you wrote: >Dave, >Thank you for your concern, it's just tearing me apart and not >getting any better. My pain dr. seems to think that stress is making >me hurt more. Don't know about that. Well glad I was wrong about your daughter. I have a 23 year old and she occasionally puts us through the wringer. She's been pretty stable for the last few years. Stress does cause more pain. I know it's true for me. When I get stressed my back pain increases greatly and takes quite awhile to calm down. So I agree with the Doc there. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 At 09:21 PM 12/10/2008, you wrote: >Dave, >Thank you for your concern, it's just tearing me apart and not >getting any better. My pain dr. seems to think that stress is making >me hurt more. Don't know about that. Well glad I was wrong about your daughter. I have a 23 year old and she occasionally puts us through the wringer. She's been pretty stable for the last few years. Stress does cause more pain. I know it's true for me. When I get stressed my back pain increases greatly and takes quite awhile to calm down. So I agree with the Doc there. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Regarding pain and stress, I notice that when I take a Xanax it calms me way down and I am able to deal with the pain on an easier level if that makes sense. I would rather take a Xanax than a muscle relaxer, as the muscle relaxer does absolutely nothing for me. I am currently on Flexeril 10 mg and can't even tell the difference. Is there a different muscle relaxer that I should ask for instead that would hopefully make me feel looser and relaxed like a Xanax would?? I think that maybe I should ask for Xanax instead of a muscle relaxer and I wonder if my dr. would be willing to do that. I started a pack of Medrol 4mg yesterday. I feel absolutely no relief with these. I wonder how long these take to work, or if they work at all? Any ideas? e Re: Dave..regarding stress At 09:21 PM 12/10/2008, you wrote: >Dave, >Thank you for your concern, it's just tearing me apart and not >getting any better. My pain dr. seems to think that stress is making >me hurt more. Don't know about that. Well glad I was wrong about your daughter. I have a 23 year old and she occasionally puts us through the wringer. She's been pretty stable for the last few years. Stress does cause more pain. I know it's true for me. When I get stressed my back pain increases greatly and takes quite awhile to calm down. So I agree with the Doc there. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Regarding pain and stress, I notice that when I take a Xanax it calms me way down and I am able to deal with the pain on an easier level if that makes sense. I would rather take a Xanax than a muscle relaxer, as the muscle relaxer does absolutely nothing for me. I am currently on Flexeril 10 mg and can't even tell the difference. Is there a different muscle relaxer that I should ask for instead that would hopefully make me feel looser and relaxed like a Xanax would?? I think that maybe I should ask for Xanax instead of a muscle relaxer and I wonder if my dr. would be willing to do that. I started a pack of Medrol 4mg yesterday. I feel absolutely no relief with these. I wonder how long these take to work, or if they work at all? Any ideas? e Re: Dave..regarding stress At 09:21 PM 12/10/2008, you wrote: >Dave, >Thank you for your concern, it's just tearing me apart and not >getting any better. My pain dr. seems to think that stress is making >me hurt more. Don't know about that. Well glad I was wrong about your daughter. I have a 23 year old and she occasionally puts us through the wringer. She's been pretty stable for the last few years. Stress does cause more pain. I know it's true for me. When I get stressed my back pain increases greatly and takes quite awhile to calm down. So I agree with the Doc there. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Regarding pain and stress, I notice that when I take a Xanax it calms me way down and I am able to deal with the pain on an easier level if that makes sense. I would rather take a Xanax than a muscle relaxer, as the muscle relaxer does absolutely nothing for me. I am currently on Flexeril 10 mg and can't even tell the difference. Is there a different muscle relaxer that I should ask for instead that would hopefully make me feel looser and relaxed like a Xanax would?? I think that maybe I should ask for Xanax instead of a muscle relaxer and I wonder if my dr. would be willing to do that. I started a pack of Medrol 4mg yesterday. I feel absolutely no relief with these. I wonder how long these take to work, or if they work at all? Any ideas? e Re: Dave..regarding stress At 09:21 PM 12/10/2008, you wrote: >Dave, >Thank you for your concern, it's just tearing me apart and not >getting any better. My pain dr. seems to think that stress is making >me hurt more. Don't know about that. Well glad I was wrong about your daughter. I have a 23 year old and she occasionally puts us through the wringer. She's been pretty stable for the last few years. Stress does cause more pain. I know it's true for me. When I get stressed my back pain increases greatly and takes quite awhile to calm down. So I agree with the Doc there. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Regarding pain and stress, I notice that when I take a Xanax it calms me way down and I am able to deal with the pain on an easier level if that makes sense. I would rather take a Xanax than a muscle relaxer, as the muscle relaxer does absolutely nothing for me. I am currently on Flexeril 10 mg and can't even tell the difference. Is there a different muscle relaxer that I should ask for instead that would hopefully make me feel looser and relaxed like a Xanax would?? I think that maybe I should ask for Xanax instead of a muscle relaxer and I wonder if my dr. would be willing to do that. I started a pack of Medrol 4mg yesterday. I feel absolutely no relief with these. I wonder how long these take to work, or if they work at all? Any ideas? e Re: Dave..regarding stress At 09:21 PM 12/10/2008, you wrote: >Dave, >Thank you for your concern, it's just tearing me apart and not >getting any better. My pain dr. seems to think that stress is making >me hurt more. Don't know about that. Well glad I was wrong about your daughter. I have a 23 year old and she occasionally puts us through the wringer. She's been pretty stable for the last few years. Stress does cause more pain. I know it's true for me. When I get stressed my back pain increases greatly and takes quite awhile to calm down. So I agree with the Doc there. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 The best muscle relaxer in the world is valium. Xanax works on your mind not your muscles......not really appropriate for the problem you are having...HoWEVEr you can take the xanax with the flexeril (warning you might get sleepy). The medrol dose pack you will get some relief from but it will take several days....by day 4 or 5 you should feel a little better....I hope that you are feeling better. Deb RN From: neck pain [mailto:neck pain ] On Behalf Of e Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 12:29 AM neck pain Subject: Re: Dave..regarding stress Regarding pain and stress, I notice that when I take a Xanax it calms me way down and I am able to deal with the pain on an easier level if that makes sense. I would rather take a Xanax than a muscle relaxer, as the muscle relaxer does absolutely nothing for me. I am currently on Flexeril 10 mg and can't even tell the difference. Is there a different muscle relaxer that I should ask for instead that would hopefully make me feel looser and relaxed like a Xanax would?? I think that maybe I should ask for Xanax instead of a muscle relaxer and I wonder if my dr. would be willing to do that. I started a pack of Medrol 4mg yesterday. I feel absolutely no relief with these. I wonder how long these take to work, or if they work at all? Any ideas? e Re: Dave..regarding stress At 09:21 PM 12/10/2008, you wrote: >Dave, >Thank you for your concern, it's just tearing me apart and not >getting any better. My pain dr. seems to think that stress is making >me hurt more. Don't know about that. Well glad I was wrong about your daughter. I have a 23 year old and she occasionally puts us through the wringer. She's been pretty stable for the last few years. Stress does cause more pain. I know it's true for me. When I get stressed my back pain increases greatly and takes quite awhile to calm down. So I agree with the Doc there. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 The best muscle relaxer in the world is valium. Xanax works on your mind not your muscles......not really appropriate for the problem you are having...HoWEVEr you can take the xanax with the flexeril (warning you might get sleepy). The medrol dose pack you will get some relief from but it will take several days....by day 4 or 5 you should feel a little better....I hope that you are feeling better. Deb RN From: neck pain [mailto:neck pain ] On Behalf Of e Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 12:29 AM neck pain Subject: Re: Dave..regarding stress Regarding pain and stress, I notice that when I take a Xanax it calms me way down and I am able to deal with the pain on an easier level if that makes sense. I would rather take a Xanax than a muscle relaxer, as the muscle relaxer does absolutely nothing for me. I am currently on Flexeril 10 mg and can't even tell the difference. Is there a different muscle relaxer that I should ask for instead that would hopefully make me feel looser and relaxed like a Xanax would?? I think that maybe I should ask for Xanax instead of a muscle relaxer and I wonder if my dr. would be willing to do that. I started a pack of Medrol 4mg yesterday. I feel absolutely no relief with these. I wonder how long these take to work, or if they work at all? Any ideas? e Re: Dave..regarding stress At 09:21 PM 12/10/2008, you wrote: >Dave, >Thank you for your concern, it's just tearing me apart and not >getting any better. My pain dr. seems to think that stress is making >me hurt more. Don't know about that. Well glad I was wrong about your daughter. I have a 23 year old and she occasionally puts us through the wringer. She's been pretty stable for the last few years. Stress does cause more pain. I know it's true for me. When I get stressed my back pain increases greatly and takes quite awhile to calm down. So I agree with the Doc there. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 The best muscle relaxer in the world is valium. Xanax works on your mind not your muscles......not really appropriate for the problem you are having...HoWEVEr you can take the xanax with the flexeril (warning you might get sleepy). The medrol dose pack you will get some relief from but it will take several days....by day 4 or 5 you should feel a little better....I hope that you are feeling better. Deb RN From: neck pain [mailto:neck pain ] On Behalf Of e Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 12:29 AM neck pain Subject: Re: Dave..regarding stress Regarding pain and stress, I notice that when I take a Xanax it calms me way down and I am able to deal with the pain on an easier level if that makes sense. I would rather take a Xanax than a muscle relaxer, as the muscle relaxer does absolutely nothing for me. I am currently on Flexeril 10 mg and can't even tell the difference. Is there a different muscle relaxer that I should ask for instead that would hopefully make me feel looser and relaxed like a Xanax would?? I think that maybe I should ask for Xanax instead of a muscle relaxer and I wonder if my dr. would be willing to do that. I started a pack of Medrol 4mg yesterday. I feel absolutely no relief with these. I wonder how long these take to work, or if they work at all? Any ideas? e Re: Dave..regarding stress At 09:21 PM 12/10/2008, you wrote: >Dave, >Thank you for your concern, it's just tearing me apart and not >getting any better. My pain dr. seems to think that stress is making >me hurt more. Don't know about that. Well glad I was wrong about your daughter. I have a 23 year old and she occasionally puts us through the wringer. She's been pretty stable for the last few years. Stress does cause more pain. I know it's true for me. When I get stressed my back pain increases greatly and takes quite awhile to calm down. So I agree with the Doc there. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 The best muscle relaxer in the world is valium. Xanax works on your mind not your muscles......not really appropriate for the problem you are having...HoWEVEr you can take the xanax with the flexeril (warning you might get sleepy). The medrol dose pack you will get some relief from but it will take several days....by day 4 or 5 you should feel a little better....I hope that you are feeling better. Deb RN From: neck pain [mailto:neck pain ] On Behalf Of e Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 12:29 AM neck pain Subject: Re: Dave..regarding stress Regarding pain and stress, I notice that when I take a Xanax it calms me way down and I am able to deal with the pain on an easier level if that makes sense. I would rather take a Xanax than a muscle relaxer, as the muscle relaxer does absolutely nothing for me. I am currently on Flexeril 10 mg and can't even tell the difference. Is there a different muscle relaxer that I should ask for instead that would hopefully make me feel looser and relaxed like a Xanax would?? I think that maybe I should ask for Xanax instead of a muscle relaxer and I wonder if my dr. would be willing to do that. I started a pack of Medrol 4mg yesterday. I feel absolutely no relief with these. I wonder how long these take to work, or if they work at all? Any ideas? e Re: Dave..regarding stress At 09:21 PM 12/10/2008, you wrote: >Dave, >Thank you for your concern, it's just tearing me apart and not >getting any better. My pain dr. seems to think that stress is making >me hurt more. Don't know about that. Well glad I was wrong about your daughter. I have a 23 year old and she occasionally puts us through the wringer. She's been pretty stable for the last few years. Stress does cause more pain. I know it's true for me. When I get stressed my back pain increases greatly and takes quite awhile to calm down. So I agree with the Doc there. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Jeanne, The info you received from the doc was incorrect. With fibro there are 18 tender points of which I believe you have to have 14 to be considered fibro. Narcotics don't cause fibro....and its not that narc's make it worse....it is that some docs are scared that fibro is a long time disease and would require long term narcotics which some docs are scared of....there is a fibromyalgia network which offers a lot of good info. Deb RN From: neck pain [mailto:neck pain ] On Behalf Of Abbott Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 8:21 PM neck pain Subject: Re: Dave..regarding stress Dave, Thank you for your concern, it's just tearing me apart and not getting any better. My pain dr. seems to think that stress is making me hurt more. Don't know about that. Thank goodness you're wrong about my daughters' concern about my health, she and I have always been very close, we went through hell together, part of her on doing in her teens with wrong choices, but she's just afraid I'm going to be terribly sick and she'll lose me forever-not for financial reasons. She is so sweet and giving, and her husband is falling into deeper depression. I'm afraid he'll do something to himself, his mother lives near them and won't even come by now. She has no one to stay with up there. I know if she had a place, she could get all the basic help you mentioned, it's just everything is full up because of the economy, and the season. My back has begun to spasm, my dr. just wants to give me an injection, and tells me to try to calm down. I asked if it were possible for me to have fibromyalgia, he doesn't think so, he said I have to be hurting in 26 places, and he said that taking opiates makes fibro. pain worse. I don't know what he was trying to say, he was backlogged on patients, and I could see he just wanted to get on to the next person. Have so much to do, not enough time, or strength, but I'll do it. My husband will help if I need him to, but he's already hurting so much, I hate to put more on his shoulders, he's been great about helping my daughter out, I feel so much guilt. We live in an apt. have no room for her and the 2 kids. We'd be kicked out for violating the lease. Well, thank you for letting me vent. I know things will work out in the long wrong, but I sure wish I had my physical health back to deal with my mental and emotional health. Take care, stay warm. Thank you Jeannie ________________________________ From: " tomhfsu@... <mailto:tomhfsu%40aol.com> " <tomhfsu@... <mailto:tomhfsu%40aol.com> > neck pain <mailto:neck pain%40> Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2008 6:59:04 AM Subject: Re: Dave..I have a question Dave, The chair that you use..Is it back friendly(I think it is called " ergonomic " ? )..If so where did you get it..I need to consider getting a chair that causes less pain in my pain when I sit in it.. Thanks, Tom In a message dated 12/8/2008 11:15:02 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, d.cruikshank@ comcast.net writes: At 04:20 AM 12/8/2008, you wrote: >Personally, because of all the stress I'm going through, I am very >angry and depressed. > >Jeannie Jeannie, I'm sorry to hear this. I agree with the others who replied and said you may have to just say know. You are in pain everyday and I'm sure your income is limited by your condition. You are not in a position to be a caregiver. You shouldn't especially in your condition and in this economy put yourself in deep debt. I think the advice of have your daughter move to Vegas may be a great idea. I'm not sure why you are scared for your daughters safety but if her husband is a threat to others and himself maybe he should check into a hospital. Even with no insurance they have to treat him. If they are that tight on money they should also be eligible for State or County assistance. Foodstamps, cash assistance, and medicaid. I know I received all three when we were at our worst financially. They should look into this. I may be reading into this wrong but is your daughter worried you will become ill because then you will no longer be able to help them? That seems rather self centered and not truly caring about your well being. I apologize if I'm misunderstanding your post or the relationship you have with your daughter. Dave ************ **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol. com/?optin= new-dp & icid= aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolco m00000010) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Jeanne, The info you received from the doc was incorrect. With fibro there are 18 tender points of which I believe you have to have 14 to be considered fibro. Narcotics don't cause fibro....and its not that narc's make it worse....it is that some docs are scared that fibro is a long time disease and would require long term narcotics which some docs are scared of....there is a fibromyalgia network which offers a lot of good info. Deb RN From: neck pain [mailto:neck pain ] On Behalf Of Abbott Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 8:21 PM neck pain Subject: Re: Dave..regarding stress Dave, Thank you for your concern, it's just tearing me apart and not getting any better. My pain dr. seems to think that stress is making me hurt more. Don't know about that. Thank goodness you're wrong about my daughters' concern about my health, she and I have always been very close, we went through hell together, part of her on doing in her teens with wrong choices, but she's just afraid I'm going to be terribly sick and she'll lose me forever-not for financial reasons. She is so sweet and giving, and her husband is falling into deeper depression. I'm afraid he'll do something to himself, his mother lives near them and won't even come by now. She has no one to stay with up there. I know if she had a place, she could get all the basic help you mentioned, it's just everything is full up because of the economy, and the season. My back has begun to spasm, my dr. just wants to give me an injection, and tells me to try to calm down. I asked if it were possible for me to have fibromyalgia, he doesn't think so, he said I have to be hurting in 26 places, and he said that taking opiates makes fibro. pain worse. I don't know what he was trying to say, he was backlogged on patients, and I could see he just wanted to get on to the next person. Have so much to do, not enough time, or strength, but I'll do it. My husband will help if I need him to, but he's already hurting so much, I hate to put more on his shoulders, he's been great about helping my daughter out, I feel so much guilt. We live in an apt. have no room for her and the 2 kids. We'd be kicked out for violating the lease. Well, thank you for letting me vent. I know things will work out in the long wrong, but I sure wish I had my physical health back to deal with my mental and emotional health. Take care, stay warm. Thank you Jeannie ________________________________ From: " tomhfsu@... <mailto:tomhfsu%40aol.com> " <tomhfsu@... <mailto:tomhfsu%40aol.com> > neck pain <mailto:neck pain%40> Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2008 6:59:04 AM Subject: Re: Dave..I have a question Dave, The chair that you use..Is it back friendly(I think it is called " ergonomic " ? )..If so where did you get it..I need to consider getting a chair that causes less pain in my pain when I sit in it.. Thanks, Tom In a message dated 12/8/2008 11:15:02 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, d.cruikshank@ comcast.net writes: At 04:20 AM 12/8/2008, you wrote: >Personally, because of all the stress I'm going through, I am very >angry and depressed. > >Jeannie Jeannie, I'm sorry to hear this. I agree with the others who replied and said you may have to just say know. You are in pain everyday and I'm sure your income is limited by your condition. You are not in a position to be a caregiver. You shouldn't especially in your condition and in this economy put yourself in deep debt. I think the advice of have your daughter move to Vegas may be a great idea. I'm not sure why you are scared for your daughters safety but if her husband is a threat to others and himself maybe he should check into a hospital. Even with no insurance they have to treat him. If they are that tight on money they should also be eligible for State or County assistance. Foodstamps, cash assistance, and medicaid. I know I received all three when we were at our worst financially. They should look into this. I may be reading into this wrong but is your daughter worried you will become ill because then you will no longer be able to help them? That seems rather self centered and not truly caring about your well being. I apologize if I'm misunderstanding your post or the relationship you have with your daughter. Dave ************ **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol. com/?optin= new-dp & icid= aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolco m00000010) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Jeanne, The info you received from the doc was incorrect. With fibro there are 18 tender points of which I believe you have to have 14 to be considered fibro. Narcotics don't cause fibro....and its not that narc's make it worse....it is that some docs are scared that fibro is a long time disease and would require long term narcotics which some docs are scared of....there is a fibromyalgia network which offers a lot of good info. Deb RN From: neck pain [mailto:neck pain ] On Behalf Of Abbott Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 8:21 PM neck pain Subject: Re: Dave..regarding stress Dave, Thank you for your concern, it's just tearing me apart and not getting any better. My pain dr. seems to think that stress is making me hurt more. Don't know about that. Thank goodness you're wrong about my daughters' concern about my health, she and I have always been very close, we went through hell together, part of her on doing in her teens with wrong choices, but she's just afraid I'm going to be terribly sick and she'll lose me forever-not for financial reasons. She is so sweet and giving, and her husband is falling into deeper depression. I'm afraid he'll do something to himself, his mother lives near them and won't even come by now. She has no one to stay with up there. I know if she had a place, she could get all the basic help you mentioned, it's just everything is full up because of the economy, and the season. My back has begun to spasm, my dr. just wants to give me an injection, and tells me to try to calm down. I asked if it were possible for me to have fibromyalgia, he doesn't think so, he said I have to be hurting in 26 places, and he said that taking opiates makes fibro. pain worse. I don't know what he was trying to say, he was backlogged on patients, and I could see he just wanted to get on to the next person. Have so much to do, not enough time, or strength, but I'll do it. My husband will help if I need him to, but he's already hurting so much, I hate to put more on his shoulders, he's been great about helping my daughter out, I feel so much guilt. We live in an apt. have no room for her and the 2 kids. We'd be kicked out for violating the lease. Well, thank you for letting me vent. I know things will work out in the long wrong, but I sure wish I had my physical health back to deal with my mental and emotional health. Take care, stay warm. Thank you Jeannie ________________________________ From: " tomhfsu@... <mailto:tomhfsu%40aol.com> " <tomhfsu@... <mailto:tomhfsu%40aol.com> > neck pain <mailto:neck pain%40> Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2008 6:59:04 AM Subject: Re: Dave..I have a question Dave, The chair that you use..Is it back friendly(I think it is called " ergonomic " ? )..If so where did you get it..I need to consider getting a chair that causes less pain in my pain when I sit in it.. Thanks, Tom In a message dated 12/8/2008 11:15:02 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, d.cruikshank@ comcast.net writes: At 04:20 AM 12/8/2008, you wrote: >Personally, because of all the stress I'm going through, I am very >angry and depressed. > >Jeannie Jeannie, I'm sorry to hear this. I agree with the others who replied and said you may have to just say know. You are in pain everyday and I'm sure your income is limited by your condition. You are not in a position to be a caregiver. You shouldn't especially in your condition and in this economy put yourself in deep debt. I think the advice of have your daughter move to Vegas may be a great idea. I'm not sure why you are scared for your daughters safety but if her husband is a threat to others and himself maybe he should check into a hospital. Even with no insurance they have to treat him. If they are that tight on money they should also be eligible for State or County assistance. Foodstamps, cash assistance, and medicaid. I know I received all three when we were at our worst financially. They should look into this. I may be reading into this wrong but is your daughter worried you will become ill because then you will no longer be able to help them? That seems rather self centered and not truly caring about your well being. I apologize if I'm misunderstanding your post or the relationship you have with your daughter. Dave ************ **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol. com/?optin= new-dp & icid= aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolco m00000010) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Jeanne, The info you received from the doc was incorrect. With fibro there are 18 tender points of which I believe you have to have 14 to be considered fibro. Narcotics don't cause fibro....and its not that narc's make it worse....it is that some docs are scared that fibro is a long time disease and would require long term narcotics which some docs are scared of....there is a fibromyalgia network which offers a lot of good info. Deb RN From: neck pain [mailto:neck pain ] On Behalf Of Abbott Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 8:21 PM neck pain Subject: Re: Dave..regarding stress Dave, Thank you for your concern, it's just tearing me apart and not getting any better. My pain dr. seems to think that stress is making me hurt more. Don't know about that. Thank goodness you're wrong about my daughters' concern about my health, she and I have always been very close, we went through hell together, part of her on doing in her teens with wrong choices, but she's just afraid I'm going to be terribly sick and she'll lose me forever-not for financial reasons. She is so sweet and giving, and her husband is falling into deeper depression. I'm afraid he'll do something to himself, his mother lives near them and won't even come by now. She has no one to stay with up there. I know if she had a place, she could get all the basic help you mentioned, it's just everything is full up because of the economy, and the season. My back has begun to spasm, my dr. just wants to give me an injection, and tells me to try to calm down. I asked if it were possible for me to have fibromyalgia, he doesn't think so, he said I have to be hurting in 26 places, and he said that taking opiates makes fibro. pain worse. I don't know what he was trying to say, he was backlogged on patients, and I could see he just wanted to get on to the next person. Have so much to do, not enough time, or strength, but I'll do it. My husband will help if I need him to, but he's already hurting so much, I hate to put more on his shoulders, he's been great about helping my daughter out, I feel so much guilt. We live in an apt. have no room for her and the 2 kids. We'd be kicked out for violating the lease. Well, thank you for letting me vent. I know things will work out in the long wrong, but I sure wish I had my physical health back to deal with my mental and emotional health. Take care, stay warm. Thank you Jeannie ________________________________ From: " tomhfsu@... <mailto:tomhfsu%40aol.com> " <tomhfsu@... <mailto:tomhfsu%40aol.com> > neck pain <mailto:neck pain%40> Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2008 6:59:04 AM Subject: Re: Dave..I have a question Dave, The chair that you use..Is it back friendly(I think it is called " ergonomic " ? )..If so where did you get it..I need to consider getting a chair that causes less pain in my pain when I sit in it.. Thanks, Tom In a message dated 12/8/2008 11:15:02 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, d.cruikshank@ comcast.net writes: At 04:20 AM 12/8/2008, you wrote: >Personally, because of all the stress I'm going through, I am very >angry and depressed. > >Jeannie Jeannie, I'm sorry to hear this. I agree with the others who replied and said you may have to just say know. You are in pain everyday and I'm sure your income is limited by your condition. You are not in a position to be a caregiver. You shouldn't especially in your condition and in this economy put yourself in deep debt. I think the advice of have your daughter move to Vegas may be a great idea. I'm not sure why you are scared for your daughters safety but if her husband is a threat to others and himself maybe he should check into a hospital. Even with no insurance they have to treat him. If they are that tight on money they should also be eligible for State or County assistance. Foodstamps, cash assistance, and medicaid. I know I received all three when we were at our worst financially. They should look into this. I may be reading into this wrong but is your daughter worried you will become ill because then you will no longer be able to help them? That seems rather self centered and not truly caring about your well being. I apologize if I'm misunderstanding your post or the relationship you have with your daughter. Dave ************ **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol. com/?optin= new-dp & icid= aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolco m00000010) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 I wonder if my doctor would be willing to let me try valium for this pain. I have to say though, my dentist gives me valium prior to my dental appointments (I had bone graft surgery) and I never feel very relaxed on it. I think Xanax works for me, because part of my muscle pain is due to tension and stress, so if my mind is calm, then my body is calm. I have a client that told me her drug of choice for her upper back pain is Gin...she is going to elaborate more on that when I see her Saturday for her haircut. She is in her 70's so maybe she knows something I don't, LOL! As for the Medrol dose pack. I am on Day 3 of the pack and I'm noticing only minor relief. It's like I can tell the pain is not as bad, yet it is still there and still pretty deep. Either my mind is playing games with me and I just think it's starting to help, or it really is...I just can't tell yet. Re: Dave..regarding stress At 09:21 PM 12/10/2008, you wrote: >Dave, >Thank you for your concern, it's just tearing me apart and not >getting any better. My pain dr. seems to think that stress is making >me hurt more. Don't know about that. Well glad I was wrong about your daughter. I have a 23 year old and she occasionally puts us through the wringer. She's been pretty stable for the last few years. Stress does cause more pain. I know it's true for me. When I get stressed my back pain increases greatly and takes quite awhile to calm down. So I agree with the Doc there. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 I wonder if my doctor would be willing to let me try valium for this pain. I have to say though, my dentist gives me valium prior to my dental appointments (I had bone graft surgery) and I never feel very relaxed on it. I think Xanax works for me, because part of my muscle pain is due to tension and stress, so if my mind is calm, then my body is calm. I have a client that told me her drug of choice for her upper back pain is Gin...she is going to elaborate more on that when I see her Saturday for her haircut. She is in her 70's so maybe she knows something I don't, LOL! As for the Medrol dose pack. I am on Day 3 of the pack and I'm noticing only minor relief. It's like I can tell the pain is not as bad, yet it is still there and still pretty deep. Either my mind is playing games with me and I just think it's starting to help, or it really is...I just can't tell yet. Re: Dave..regarding stress At 09:21 PM 12/10/2008, you wrote: >Dave, >Thank you for your concern, it's just tearing me apart and not >getting any better. My pain dr. seems to think that stress is making >me hurt more. Don't know about that. Well glad I was wrong about your daughter. I have a 23 year old and she occasionally puts us through the wringer. She's been pretty stable for the last few years. Stress does cause more pain. I know it's true for me. When I get stressed my back pain increases greatly and takes quite awhile to calm down. So I agree with the Doc there. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 I wonder if my doctor would be willing to let me try valium for this pain. I have to say though, my dentist gives me valium prior to my dental appointments (I had bone graft surgery) and I never feel very relaxed on it. I think Xanax works for me, because part of my muscle pain is due to tension and stress, so if my mind is calm, then my body is calm. I have a client that told me her drug of choice for her upper back pain is Gin...she is going to elaborate more on that when I see her Saturday for her haircut. She is in her 70's so maybe she knows something I don't, LOL! As for the Medrol dose pack. I am on Day 3 of the pack and I'm noticing only minor relief. It's like I can tell the pain is not as bad, yet it is still there and still pretty deep. Either my mind is playing games with me and I just think it's starting to help, or it really is...I just can't tell yet. Re: Dave..regarding stress At 09:21 PM 12/10/2008, you wrote: >Dave, >Thank you for your concern, it's just tearing me apart and not >getting any better. My pain dr. seems to think that stress is making >me hurt more. Don't know about that. Well glad I was wrong about your daughter. I have a 23 year old and she occasionally puts us through the wringer. She's been pretty stable for the last few years. Stress does cause more pain. I know it's true for me. When I get stressed my back pain increases greatly and takes quite awhile to calm down. So I agree with the Doc there. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 I wonder if my doctor would be willing to let me try valium for this pain. I have to say though, my dentist gives me valium prior to my dental appointments (I had bone graft surgery) and I never feel very relaxed on it. I think Xanax works for me, because part of my muscle pain is due to tension and stress, so if my mind is calm, then my body is calm. I have a client that told me her drug of choice for her upper back pain is Gin...she is going to elaborate more on that when I see her Saturday for her haircut. She is in her 70's so maybe she knows something I don't, LOL! As for the Medrol dose pack. I am on Day 3 of the pack and I'm noticing only minor relief. It's like I can tell the pain is not as bad, yet it is still there and still pretty deep. Either my mind is playing games with me and I just think it's starting to help, or it really is...I just can't tell yet. Re: Dave..regarding stress At 09:21 PM 12/10/2008, you wrote: >Dave, >Thank you for your concern, it's just tearing me apart and not >getting any better. My pain dr. seems to think that stress is making >me hurt more. Don't know about that. Well glad I was wrong about your daughter. I have a 23 year old and she occasionally puts us through the wringer. She's been pretty stable for the last few years. Stress does cause more pain. I know it's true for me. When I get stressed my back pain increases greatly and takes quite awhile to calm down. So I agree with the Doc there. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 I agree Deb, I had tried acouple others, but valium worked the best and it also helped with my anxiety which when I was in pain all the time i needed, Donna In a message dated 12/12/08 12:36:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, i_ownaberner@... writes: > The best muscle relaxer in the world is valium. Xanax works on your mind > not your muscles......not really appropriate for the problem you are > having...HoWEVEr you can take the xanax with the flexeril (warning you > might get sleepy). The medrol dose pack you will get some relief from but > it will take several days....by day 4 or 5 you should feel a little > better....I hope that you are feeling better. > > Deb RN > > > > > > ************** Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp & amp; icid=aolcom40vanity & amp;ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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