Guest guest Posted January 31, 2000 Report Share Posted January 31, 2000 You know. A lot of people did IV drugs in the 60's. It isn't the drugs that caused the disease, it was the sharing of needles. Now I know not everyone shared a needle. But... it's kinda like the BIG BANG theory.. what was before the big bang and where did all that material come from? If you shared a needle with someone who had hep, that someone had to get hep somewhere. So I can't go with the theory that it's mostly drug users. I know there was hep since like forever, but not so much in epidemic terms. History does show that wars spread disease and hep was no different. Yet until blood transfusions and vaccine testing, did some of these diseases develop into big problems. The URL I offered yall isn't just about AIDS, although a lot of it is.... " Although mass vaccination programs have resulted in the eradication of a number of human infectious diseases, vaccine contamination has been a persistent concern. In particular, it is now known that the early polio vaccines were contaminated with at least one monkey virus, SV40. The transfer of monkey viruses to man via contaminated vaccines is particularly relevant to the acquired immunodeficiency syndrome (AIDS), since the causative agent of AIDS, human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), is thought to be derived from a simian precursor virus. Furthermore, human infection with this virus appears to be a relatively recent event. We hypothesize that the AIDS pandemic may have originated with a contaminated polio vaccine that was administered to inhabitants of Equatorial Africa from 1957 to 1959. The mechanism of evolution of HIV from this vaccine remains to be determined. " " In 1902, 19 Punjabi villagers given an experimental plague vaccine died of a tetanus contaminant (2); and in 1906 an American scientist in the Philippines inoculated 24 prisoners with an experimental cholera vaccine that inadvertently had been contaminated with plague. 13 of the men died (3). " (( my comment.. are these acceptable losses?))) " The Pasteur technique was used in 1936 by Dr Max Theiler of the Rockefeller Institute to create a vaccine against yellow fever. To produce the new vaccine, virus strains obtained from infected individuals were passed through the tissues of mice instead of rabbits. Fertilized chicken eggs were then seeded with these weakened yellow fever viruses. After a week of incubation, the chick-embryos were removed from the eggs and finely minced. Human blood serum was then added to stabilize the viruses. In 1938 more than one million Brazilians were inoculated with the vaccine before it was discovered that it had been contaminated with hepatitis B virus (1). Despite this disaster, human blood serum continued to be used as a stabilizer in yellow fever vaccines until 1942, when approximately 330 000 people came down with hepatitis B virus infection linked to vaccine lots given to approximately 50 000 US Army personnel. There were at least 84 deaths from the 1942 hepatitis outbreak (4). " " However, the largest vaccine contamination in medical history occurred from 1954 through early 1963, when millions of people around the world received polio vaccines that had been contaminated with a monkey virus. " Read the rest of the article at http://www.uow.edu.au/arts/sts/bmartin/dissent/documents/AIDS/Elswood94.html alley/ ICQ 12631861 alleypat@... <mailto:alleypat@...> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2000 Report Share Posted January 31, 2000 You know. A lot of people did IV drugs in the 60's. It isn't the drugs that caused the disease, it was the sharing of needles. Now I know not everyone shared a needle. But... it's kinda like the BIG BANG theory.. what was before the big bang and where did all that material come from? If you shared a needle with someone who had hep, that someone had to get hep somewhere. So I can't go with the theory that it's mostly drug users. I know there was hep since like forever, but not so much in epidemic terms. History does show that wars spread disease and hep was no different. Yet until blood transfusions and vaccine testing, did some of these diseases develop into big problems. The URL I offered yall isn't just about AIDS, although a lot of it is.... " Although mass vaccination programs have resulted in the eradication of a number of human infectious diseases, vaccine contamination has been a persistent concern. In particular, it is now known that the early polio vaccines were contaminated with at least one monkey virus, SV40. The transfer of monkey viruses to man via contaminated vaccines is particularly relevant to the acquired immunodeficiency syndrome (AIDS), since the causative agent of AIDS, human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), is thought to be derived from a simian precursor virus. Furthermore, human infection with this virus appears to be a relatively recent event. We hypothesize that the AIDS pandemic may have originated with a contaminated polio vaccine that was administered to inhabitants of Equatorial Africa from 1957 to 1959. The mechanism of evolution of HIV from this vaccine remains to be determined. " " In 1902, 19 Punjabi villagers given an experimental plague vaccine died of a tetanus contaminant (2); and in 1906 an American scientist in the Philippines inoculated 24 prisoners with an experimental cholera vaccine that inadvertently had been contaminated with plague. 13 of the men died (3). " (( my comment.. are these acceptable losses?))) " The Pasteur technique was used in 1936 by Dr Max Theiler of the Rockefeller Institute to create a vaccine against yellow fever. To produce the new vaccine, virus strains obtained from infected individuals were passed through the tissues of mice instead of rabbits. Fertilized chicken eggs were then seeded with these weakened yellow fever viruses. After a week of incubation, the chick-embryos were removed from the eggs and finely minced. Human blood serum was then added to stabilize the viruses. In 1938 more than one million Brazilians were inoculated with the vaccine before it was discovered that it had been contaminated with hepatitis B virus (1). Despite this disaster, human blood serum continued to be used as a stabilizer in yellow fever vaccines until 1942, when approximately 330 000 people came down with hepatitis B virus infection linked to vaccine lots given to approximately 50 000 US Army personnel. There were at least 84 deaths from the 1942 hepatitis outbreak (4). " " However, the largest vaccine contamination in medical history occurred from 1954 through early 1963, when millions of people around the world received polio vaccines that had been contaminated with a monkey virus. " Read the rest of the article at http://www.uow.edu.au/arts/sts/bmartin/dissent/documents/AIDS/Elswood94.html alley/ ICQ 12631861 alleypat@... <mailto:alleypat@...> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2000 Report Share Posted January 31, 2000 You know. A lot of people did IV drugs in the 60's. It isn't the drugs that caused the disease, it was the sharing of needles. Now I know not everyone shared a needle. But... it's kinda like the BIG BANG theory.. what was before the big bang and where did all that material come from? If you shared a needle with someone who had hep, that someone had to get hep somewhere. So I can't go with the theory that it's mostly drug users. I know there was hep since like forever, but not so much in epidemic terms. History does show that wars spread disease and hep was no different. Yet until blood transfusions and vaccine testing, did some of these diseases develop into big problems. The URL I offered yall isn't just about AIDS, although a lot of it is.... " Although mass vaccination programs have resulted in the eradication of a number of human infectious diseases, vaccine contamination has been a persistent concern. In particular, it is now known that the early polio vaccines were contaminated with at least one monkey virus, SV40. The transfer of monkey viruses to man via contaminated vaccines is particularly relevant to the acquired immunodeficiency syndrome (AIDS), since the causative agent of AIDS, human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), is thought to be derived from a simian precursor virus. Furthermore, human infection with this virus appears to be a relatively recent event. We hypothesize that the AIDS pandemic may have originated with a contaminated polio vaccine that was administered to inhabitants of Equatorial Africa from 1957 to 1959. The mechanism of evolution of HIV from this vaccine remains to be determined. " " In 1902, 19 Punjabi villagers given an experimental plague vaccine died of a tetanus contaminant (2); and in 1906 an American scientist in the Philippines inoculated 24 prisoners with an experimental cholera vaccine that inadvertently had been contaminated with plague. 13 of the men died (3). " (( my comment.. are these acceptable losses?))) " The Pasteur technique was used in 1936 by Dr Max Theiler of the Rockefeller Institute to create a vaccine against yellow fever. To produce the new vaccine, virus strains obtained from infected individuals were passed through the tissues of mice instead of rabbits. Fertilized chicken eggs were then seeded with these weakened yellow fever viruses. After a week of incubation, the chick-embryos were removed from the eggs and finely minced. Human blood serum was then added to stabilize the viruses. In 1938 more than one million Brazilians were inoculated with the vaccine before it was discovered that it had been contaminated with hepatitis B virus (1). Despite this disaster, human blood serum continued to be used as a stabilizer in yellow fever vaccines until 1942, when approximately 330 000 people came down with hepatitis B virus infection linked to vaccine lots given to approximately 50 000 US Army personnel. There were at least 84 deaths from the 1942 hepatitis outbreak (4). " " However, the largest vaccine contamination in medical history occurred from 1954 through early 1963, when millions of people around the world received polio vaccines that had been contaminated with a monkey virus. " Read the rest of the article at http://www.uow.edu.au/arts/sts/bmartin/dissent/documents/AIDS/Elswood94.html alley/ ICQ 12631861 alleypat@... <mailto:alleypat@...> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2000 Report Share Posted January 31, 2000 You know. A lot of people did IV drugs in the 60's. It isn't the drugs that caused the disease, it was the sharing of needles. Now I know not everyone shared a needle. But... it's kinda like the BIG BANG theory.. what was before the big bang and where did all that material come from? If you shared a needle with someone who had hep, that someone had to get hep somewhere. So I can't go with the theory that it's mostly drug users. I know there was hep since like forever, but not so much in epidemic terms. History does show that wars spread disease and hep was no different. Yet until blood transfusions and vaccine testing, did some of these diseases develop into big problems. The URL I offered yall isn't just about AIDS, although a lot of it is.... " Although mass vaccination programs have resulted in the eradication of a number of human infectious diseases, vaccine contamination has been a persistent concern. In particular, it is now known that the early polio vaccines were contaminated with at least one monkey virus, SV40. The transfer of monkey viruses to man via contaminated vaccines is particularly relevant to the acquired immunodeficiency syndrome (AIDS), since the causative agent of AIDS, human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), is thought to be derived from a simian precursor virus. Furthermore, human infection with this virus appears to be a relatively recent event. We hypothesize that the AIDS pandemic may have originated with a contaminated polio vaccine that was administered to inhabitants of Equatorial Africa from 1957 to 1959. The mechanism of evolution of HIV from this vaccine remains to be determined. " " In 1902, 19 Punjabi villagers given an experimental plague vaccine died of a tetanus contaminant (2); and in 1906 an American scientist in the Philippines inoculated 24 prisoners with an experimental cholera vaccine that inadvertently had been contaminated with plague. 13 of the men died (3). " (( my comment.. are these acceptable losses?))) " The Pasteur technique was used in 1936 by Dr Max Theiler of the Rockefeller Institute to create a vaccine against yellow fever. To produce the new vaccine, virus strains obtained from infected individuals were passed through the tissues of mice instead of rabbits. Fertilized chicken eggs were then seeded with these weakened yellow fever viruses. After a week of incubation, the chick-embryos were removed from the eggs and finely minced. Human blood serum was then added to stabilize the viruses. In 1938 more than one million Brazilians were inoculated with the vaccine before it was discovered that it had been contaminated with hepatitis B virus (1). Despite this disaster, human blood serum continued to be used as a stabilizer in yellow fever vaccines until 1942, when approximately 330 000 people came down with hepatitis B virus infection linked to vaccine lots given to approximately 50 000 US Army personnel. There were at least 84 deaths from the 1942 hepatitis outbreak (4). " " However, the largest vaccine contamination in medical history occurred from 1954 through early 1963, when millions of people around the world received polio vaccines that had been contaminated with a monkey virus. " Read the rest of the article at http://www.uow.edu.au/arts/sts/bmartin/dissent/documents/AIDS/Elswood94.html alley/ ICQ 12631861 alleypat@... <mailto:alleypat@...> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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