Re: warning about Fileden as used by Fiddaman & other linked blogs

[Guest guest]

>

(Fwd from concerned & trusted member of SSRIcrusaders)

>

>Info on fileden- does have .exe file.

>

> Not good.

>

The website is owned by; Registrant:

>

> Steward

> 31 Ligo Avenue Stoke Mandeville

> Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire HP225TY

> GB

> Phone: +44.7931464429

> Email: queries@...

> <http://cqcounter.com/whois/index.php?query=netoplex.com> When I went

> on the website my security system ran a scan on the website. A

> program was trying to download something to my computer.

> C:/PROGRAMDATA/AMGKAADO2400.exe which means its an exectible. A few

> minutes later a trojanS file came up. I would say its the entire site

> as I just went to fileden.com It also has backlinks to singapore

> child sex trade. The website name is sammyboyforum.com which is a

> prostitution ring in singapore. You can bet your bottom dollar those

> girls and boys are under the age of 18. Huge business in Singapore and

> that's what they are most known for. Does fiddaman in effect

> support a child sex ring? What a freak!>>

** File Den is a site where people can store documents online. Fiddaman

is no more responsible for what exists on the File Den server than you or I are.

I just went there and I got a warning from Google (I use Chrome for a browser)

that malware was at the site. It said:

Warning: Something's Not Right Here!

www.fileden.com contains content from 12sa.cz.cc, a site known to distribute

malware. Your computer might catch a virus if you visit this site.

Google has found malicious software may be installed onto your computer if you

proceed. If you've visited this site in the past or you trust this site, it's

possible that it has just recently been compromised by a hacker. You should not

proceed, and perhaps try again tomorrow or go somewhere else.

We have already notified 12sa.cz.cc that we found malware on the site. For more

about the problems found on 12sa.cz.cc, visit the Google Safe Browsing

diagnostic page.

** Suggesting that Bob Fiddaman is somehow actively involved in a sex ring

because a service he uses has a questionable executable file on it is at best

lack of knowledge about how things work online. But I know that you are

knowledgeable about these things so it can't be that.

I've had no fewer than 8 people approach me in the past 18 months asking me if

I could talk to you about the attacks you make on people, including Fiddaman and

how " unfairly "

you " fight " . One person threatened me that if I did not ban you from my group

that he was going to report me to the government for " practicing medicine

online " .

Do you know what I told him? I said that as much as I found what you were

doing extremely distasteful and very disappointing to me, I don't ban people

from my group unless they do something to repeatedly disrupt my group or are

repeatedly rude to anyone in the group. I did email you once telling you how

sad it made me to see you acting in a way that reflected poorly on you. It

didn't seem to have any effect on you.

Regarding paying to advertise, how is this " taking advantage of the

vulnerable? " I don't get it. Please elaborate? Thanks.

--

[Guest guest]

>

(Fwd from concerned & trusted member of SSRIcrusaders)

>

>Info on fileden- does have .exe file.

>

> Not good.

>

The website is owned by; Registrant:

>

> Steward

> 31 Ligo Avenue Stoke Mandeville

> Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire HP225TY

> GB

> Phone: +44.7931464429

> Email: queries@...

> <http://cqcounter.com/whois/index.php?query=netoplex.com> When I went

> on the website my security system ran a scan on the website. A

> program was trying to download something to my computer.

> C:/PROGRAMDATA/AMGKAADO2400.exe which means its an exectible. A few

> minutes later a trojanS file came up. I would say its the entire site

> as I just went to fileden.com It also has backlinks to singapore

> child sex trade. The website name is sammyboyforum.com which is a

> prostitution ring in singapore. You can bet your bottom dollar those

> girls and boys are under the age of 18. Huge business in Singapore and

> that's what they are most known for. Does fiddaman in effect

> support a child sex ring? What a freak!>>

** File Den is a site where people can store documents online. Fiddaman

is no more responsible for what exists on the File Den server than you or I are.

I just went there and I got a warning from Google (I use Chrome for a browser)

that malware was at the site. It said:

Warning: Something's Not Right Here!

www.fileden.com contains content from 12sa.cz.cc, a site known to distribute

malware. Your computer might catch a virus if you visit this site.

Google has found malicious software may be installed onto your computer if you

proceed. If you've visited this site in the past or you trust this site, it's

possible that it has just recently been compromised by a hacker. You should not

proceed, and perhaps try again tomorrow or go somewhere else.

We have already notified 12sa.cz.cc that we found malware on the site. For more

about the problems found on 12sa.cz.cc, visit the Google Safe Browsing

diagnostic page.

** Suggesting that Bob Fiddaman is somehow actively involved in a sex ring

because a service he uses has a questionable executable file on it is at best

lack of knowledge about how things work online. But I know that you are

knowledgeable about these things so it can't be that.

I've had no fewer than 8 people approach me in the past 18 months asking me if

I could talk to you about the attacks you make on people, including Fiddaman and

how " unfairly "

you " fight " . One person threatened me that if I did not ban you from my group

that he was going to report me to the government for " practicing medicine

online " .

Do you know what I told him? I said that as much as I found what you were

doing extremely distasteful and very disappointing to me, I don't ban people

from my group unless they do something to repeatedly disrupt my group or are

repeatedly rude to anyone in the group. I did email you once telling you how

sad it made me to see you acting in a way that reflected poorly on you. It

didn't seem to have any effect on you.

Regarding paying to advertise, how is this " taking advantage of the

vulnerable? " I don't get it. Please elaborate? Thanks.

--

[Guest guest]

>

(Fwd from concerned & trusted member of SSRIcrusaders)

>

>Info on fileden- does have .exe file.

>

> Not good.

>

The website is owned by; Registrant:

>

> Steward

> 31 Ligo Avenue Stoke Mandeville

> Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire HP225TY

> GB

> Phone: +44.7931464429

> Email: queries@...

> <http://cqcounter.com/whois/index.php?query=netoplex.com> When I went

> on the website my security system ran a scan on the website. A

> program was trying to download something to my computer.

> C:/PROGRAMDATA/AMGKAADO2400.exe which means its an exectible. A few

> minutes later a trojanS file came up. I would say its the entire site

> as I just went to fileden.com It also has backlinks to singapore

> child sex trade. The website name is sammyboyforum.com which is a

> prostitution ring in singapore. You can bet your bottom dollar those

> girls and boys are under the age of 18. Huge business in Singapore and

> that's what they are most known for. Does fiddaman in effect

> support a child sex ring? What a freak!>>

** File Den is a site where people can store documents online. Fiddaman

is no more responsible for what exists on the File Den server than you or I are.

I just went there and I got a warning from Google (I use Chrome for a browser)

that malware was at the site. It said:

Warning: Something's Not Right Here!

www.fileden.com contains content from 12sa.cz.cc, a site known to distribute

malware. Your computer might catch a virus if you visit this site.

Google has found malicious software may be installed onto your computer if you

proceed. If you've visited this site in the past or you trust this site, it's

possible that it has just recently been compromised by a hacker. You should not

proceed, and perhaps try again tomorrow or go somewhere else.

We have already notified 12sa.cz.cc that we found malware on the site. For more

about the problems found on 12sa.cz.cc, visit the Google Safe Browsing

diagnostic page.

** Suggesting that Bob Fiddaman is somehow actively involved in a sex ring

because a service he uses has a questionable executable file on it is at best

lack of knowledge about how things work online. But I know that you are

knowledgeable about these things so it can't be that.

I've had no fewer than 8 people approach me in the past 18 months asking me if

I could talk to you about the attacks you make on people, including Fiddaman and

how " unfairly "

you " fight " . One person threatened me that if I did not ban you from my group

that he was going to report me to the government for " practicing medicine

online " .

Do you know what I told him? I said that as much as I found what you were

doing extremely distasteful and very disappointing to me, I don't ban people

from my group unless they do something to repeatedly disrupt my group or are

repeatedly rude to anyone in the group. I did email you once telling you how

sad it made me to see you acting in a way that reflected poorly on you. It

didn't seem to have any effect on you.

Regarding paying to advertise, how is this " taking advantage of the

vulnerable? " I don't get it. Please elaborate? Thanks.

--

[Guest guest]

>

(Fwd from concerned & trusted member of SSRIcrusaders)

>

>Info on fileden- does have .exe file.

>

> Not good.

>

The website is owned by; Registrant:

>

> Steward

> 31 Ligo Avenue Stoke Mandeville

> Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire HP225TY

> GB

> Phone: +44.7931464429

> Email: queries@...

> <http://cqcounter.com/whois/index.php?query=netoplex.com> When I went

> on the website my security system ran a scan on the website. A

> program was trying to download something to my computer.

> C:/PROGRAMDATA/AMGKAADO2400.exe which means its an exectible. A few

> minutes later a trojanS file came up. I would say its the entire site

> as I just went to fileden.com It also has backlinks to singapore

> child sex trade. The website name is sammyboyforum.com which is a

> prostitution ring in singapore. You can bet your bottom dollar those

> girls and boys are under the age of 18. Huge business in Singapore and

> that's what they are most known for. Does fiddaman in effect

> support a child sex ring? What a freak!>>

** File Den is a site where people can store documents online. Fiddaman

is no more responsible for what exists on the File Den server than you or I are.

I just went there and I got a warning from Google (I use Chrome for a browser)

that malware was at the site. It said:

Warning: Something's Not Right Here!

www.fileden.com contains content from 12sa.cz.cc, a site known to distribute

malware. Your computer might catch a virus if you visit this site.

Google has found malicious software may be installed onto your computer if you

proceed. If you've visited this site in the past or you trust this site, it's

possible that it has just recently been compromised by a hacker. You should not

proceed, and perhaps try again tomorrow or go somewhere else.

We have already notified 12sa.cz.cc that we found malware on the site. For more

about the problems found on 12sa.cz.cc, visit the Google Safe Browsing

diagnostic page.

** Suggesting that Bob Fiddaman is somehow actively involved in a sex ring

because a service he uses has a questionable executable file on it is at best

lack of knowledge about how things work online. But I know that you are

knowledgeable about these things so it can't be that.

I've had no fewer than 8 people approach me in the past 18 months asking me if

I could talk to you about the attacks you make on people, including Fiddaman and

how " unfairly "

you " fight " . One person threatened me that if I did not ban you from my group

that he was going to report me to the government for " practicing medicine

online " .

Do you know what I told him? I said that as much as I found what you were

doing extremely distasteful and very disappointing to me, I don't ban people

from my group unless they do something to repeatedly disrupt my group or are

repeatedly rude to anyone in the group. I did email you once telling you how

sad it made me to see you acting in a way that reflected poorly on you. It

didn't seem to have any effect on you.

Regarding paying to advertise, how is this " taking advantage of the

vulnerable? " I don't get it. Please elaborate? Thanks.

--

[Guest guest]

The post to which you replied started thus (Fwd from concerned & trusted member of SSRIcrusaders)

the leading line was coloured blue

post is here

SSRI medications/message/36644

& is indeed the contents of a private e-mail sent directly to me & is reproduced with the senders permission.

As you said, you too got warnings from Chrome about Fileden contents, however my security programme indicates that only some of fileden files are corrupted.

And the some of files in themselves are significant, both within their contents (more of later) and the fact that they contain the exe file. This is indicative of the facts that the Exe file was probably placed by the author and not as some sort of global corruption of Fileden.

Google search returns of his site including some Fileden contents show that these files are marked by a red dot, right beside the preview icon.

Since it is clear from the google search returns that some of Fiddaman's files are corrupt then surely it is encumbant upon him to remedy this. The matter is made worse when one also recently recalls Fiddaman placed upon his site a public notice (subject - his files) that his site was safe ..........when in fact it was not !

I will return to your latter point in a seperate reply

> >> (Fwd from concerned & trusted member of SSRIcrusaders)> > > >Info on fileden- does have .exe file.> > > > Not good.> > > The website is owned by; Registrant:> > > > Steward> > 31 Ligo Avenue Stoke Mandeville> > Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire HP225TY> > GB> > Phone: +44.7931464429> > Email: queries@> > <http://cqcounter.com/whois/index.php?query=netoplex.com> When I went> > on the website my security system ran a scan on the website. A> > program was trying to download something to my computer. > > C:/PROGRAMDATA/AMGKAADO2400.exe which means its an exectible. A few> > minutes later a trojanS file came up. I would say its the entire site> > as I just went to fileden.com It also has backlinks to singapore> > child sex trade. The website name is sammyboyforum.com which is a> > prostitution ring in singapore. You can bet your bottom dollar those> > girls and boys are under the age of 18. Huge business in Singapore and> > that's what they are most known for. Does fiddaman in effect> > support a child sex ring? What a freak!>>> > > ** File Den is a site where people can store documents online. Fiddaman is no more responsible for what exists on the File Den server than you or I are. I just went there and I got a warning from Google (I use Chrome for a browser) that malware was at the site. It said:> > Warning: Something's Not Right Here!> www.fileden.com contains content from 12sa.cz.cc, a site known to distribute malware. Your computer might catch a virus if you visit this site.> Google has found malicious software may be installed onto your computer if you proceed. If you've visited this site in the past or you trust this site, it's possible that it has just recently been compromised by a hacker. You should not proceed, and perhaps try again tomorrow or go somewhere else.> We have already notified 12sa.cz.cc that we found malware on the site. For more about the problems found on 12sa.cz.cc, visit the Google Safe Browsing diagnostic page.> > ** Suggesting that Bob Fiddaman is somehow actively involved in a sex ring because a service he uses has a questionable executable file on it is at best lack of knowledge about how things work online. But I know that you are knowledgeable about these things so it can't be that.> > I've had no fewer than 8 people approach me in the past 18 months asking me if I could talk to you about the attacks you make on people, including Fiddaman and how "unfairly" you "fight". One person threatened me that if I did not ban you from my group that he was going to report me to the government for "practicing medicine online".> > Do you know what I told him? I said that as much as I found what you were doing extremely distasteful and very disappointing to me, I don't ban people from my group unless they do something to repeatedly disrupt my group or are repeatedly rude to anyone in the group. I did email you once telling you how sad it made me to see you acting in a way that reflected poorly on you. It didn't seem to have any effect on you.> > Regarding paying to advertise, how is this "taking advantage of the vulnerable?" I don't get it. Please elaborate? Thanks.> > --> >

[Guest guest]

The post to which you replied started thus (Fwd from concerned & trusted member of SSRIcrusaders)

the leading line was coloured blue

post is here

SSRI medications/message/36644

& is indeed the contents of a private e-mail sent directly to me & is reproduced with the senders permission.

As you said, you too got warnings from Chrome about Fileden contents, however my security programme indicates that only some of fileden files are corrupted.

And the some of files in themselves are significant, both within their contents (more of later) and the fact that they contain the exe file. This is indicative of the facts that the Exe file was probably placed by the author and not as some sort of global corruption of Fileden.

Google search returns of his site including some Fileden contents show that these files are marked by a red dot, right beside the preview icon.

Since it is clear from the google search returns that some of Fiddaman's files are corrupt then surely it is encumbant upon him to remedy this. The matter is made worse when one also recently recalls Fiddaman placed upon his site a public notice (subject - his files) that his site was safe ..........when in fact it was not !

I will return to your latter point in a seperate reply

> >> (Fwd from concerned & trusted member of SSRIcrusaders)> > > >Info on fileden- does have .exe file.> > > > Not good.> > > The website is owned by; Registrant:> > > > Steward> > 31 Ligo Avenue Stoke Mandeville> > Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire HP225TY> > GB> > Phone: +44.7931464429> > Email: queries@> > <http://cqcounter.com/whois/index.php?query=netoplex.com> When I went> > on the website my security system ran a scan on the website. A> > program was trying to download something to my computer. > > C:/PROGRAMDATA/AMGKAADO2400.exe which means its an exectible. A few> > minutes later a trojanS file came up. I would say its the entire site> > as I just went to fileden.com It also has backlinks to singapore> > child sex trade. The website name is sammyboyforum.com which is a> > prostitution ring in singapore. You can bet your bottom dollar those> > girls and boys are under the age of 18. Huge business in Singapore and> > that's what they are most known for. Does fiddaman in effect> > support a child sex ring? What a freak!>>> > > ** File Den is a site where people can store documents online. Fiddaman is no more responsible for what exists on the File Den server than you or I are. I just went there and I got a warning from Google (I use Chrome for a browser) that malware was at the site. It said:> > Warning: Something's Not Right Here!> www.fileden.com contains content from 12sa.cz.cc, a site known to distribute malware. Your computer might catch a virus if you visit this site.> Google has found malicious software may be installed onto your computer if you proceed. If you've visited this site in the past or you trust this site, it's possible that it has just recently been compromised by a hacker. You should not proceed, and perhaps try again tomorrow or go somewhere else.> We have already notified 12sa.cz.cc that we found malware on the site. For more about the problems found on 12sa.cz.cc, visit the Google Safe Browsing diagnostic page.> > ** Suggesting that Bob Fiddaman is somehow actively involved in a sex ring because a service he uses has a questionable executable file on it is at best lack of knowledge about how things work online. But I know that you are knowledgeable about these things so it can't be that.> > I've had no fewer than 8 people approach me in the past 18 months asking me if I could talk to you about the attacks you make on people, including Fiddaman and how "unfairly" you "fight". One person threatened me that if I did not ban you from my group that he was going to report me to the government for "practicing medicine online".> > Do you know what I told him? I said that as much as I found what you were doing extremely distasteful and very disappointing to me, I don't ban people from my group unless they do something to repeatedly disrupt my group or are repeatedly rude to anyone in the group. I did email you once telling you how sad it made me to see you acting in a way that reflected poorly on you. It didn't seem to have any effect on you.> > Regarding paying to advertise, how is this "taking advantage of the vulnerable?" I don't get it. Please elaborate? Thanks.> > --> >

[Guest guest]

The post to which you replied started thus (Fwd from concerned & trusted member of SSRIcrusaders)

the leading line was coloured blue

post is here

SSRI medications/message/36644

& is indeed the contents of a private e-mail sent directly to me & is reproduced with the senders permission.

As you said, you too got warnings from Chrome about Fileden contents, however my security programme indicates that only some of fileden files are corrupted.

And the some of files in themselves are significant, both within their contents (more of later) and the fact that they contain the exe file. This is indicative of the facts that the Exe file was probably placed by the author and not as some sort of global corruption of Fileden.

Google search returns of his site including some Fileden contents show that these files are marked by a red dot, right beside the preview icon.

Since it is clear from the google search returns that some of Fiddaman's files are corrupt then surely it is encumbant upon him to remedy this. The matter is made worse when one also recently recalls Fiddaman placed upon his site a public notice (subject - his files) that his site was safe ..........when in fact it was not !

I will return to your latter point in a seperate reply

> >> (Fwd from concerned & trusted member of SSRIcrusaders)> > > >Info on fileden- does have .exe file.> > > > Not good.> > > The website is owned by; Registrant:> > > > Steward> > 31 Ligo Avenue Stoke Mandeville> > Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire HP225TY> > GB> > Phone: +44.7931464429> > Email: queries@> > <http://cqcounter.com/whois/index.php?query=netoplex.com> When I went> > on the website my security system ran a scan on the website. A> > program was trying to download something to my computer. > > C:/PROGRAMDATA/AMGKAADO2400.exe which means its an exectible. A few> > minutes later a trojanS file came up. I would say its the entire site> > as I just went to fileden.com It also has backlinks to singapore> > child sex trade. The website name is sammyboyforum.com which is a> > prostitution ring in singapore. You can bet your bottom dollar those> > girls and boys are under the age of 18. Huge business in Singapore and> > that's what they are most known for. Does fiddaman in effect> > support a child sex ring? What a freak!>>> > > ** File Den is a site where people can store documents online. Fiddaman is no more responsible for what exists on the File Den server than you or I are. I just went there and I got a warning from Google (I use Chrome for a browser) that malware was at the site. It said:> > Warning: Something's Not Right Here!> www.fileden.com contains content from 12sa.cz.cc, a site known to distribute malware. Your computer might catch a virus if you visit this site.> Google has found malicious software may be installed onto your computer if you proceed. If you've visited this site in the past or you trust this site, it's possible that it has just recently been compromised by a hacker. You should not proceed, and perhaps try again tomorrow or go somewhere else.> We have already notified 12sa.cz.cc that we found malware on the site. For more about the problems found on 12sa.cz.cc, visit the Google Safe Browsing diagnostic page.> > ** Suggesting that Bob Fiddaman is somehow actively involved in a sex ring because a service he uses has a questionable executable file on it is at best lack of knowledge about how things work online. But I know that you are knowledgeable about these things so it can't be that.> > I've had no fewer than 8 people approach me in the past 18 months asking me if I could talk to you about the attacks you make on people, including Fiddaman and how "unfairly" you "fight". One person threatened me that if I did not ban you from my group that he was going to report me to the government for "practicing medicine online".> > Do you know what I told him? I said that as much as I found what you were doing extremely distasteful and very disappointing to me, I don't ban people from my group unless they do something to repeatedly disrupt my group or are repeatedly rude to anyone in the group. I did email you once telling you how sad it made me to see you acting in a way that reflected poorly on you. It didn't seem to have any effect on you.> > Regarding paying to advertise, how is this "taking advantage of the vulnerable?" I don't get it. Please elaborate? Thanks.> > --> >

[Guest guest]

The post to which you replied started thus (Fwd from concerned & trusted member of SSRIcrusaders)

the leading line was coloured blue

post is here

SSRI medications/message/36644

& is indeed the contents of a private e-mail sent directly to me & is reproduced with the senders permission.

As you said, you too got warnings from Chrome about Fileden contents, however my security programme indicates that only some of fileden files are corrupted.

And the some of files in themselves are significant, both within their contents (more of later) and the fact that they contain the exe file. This is indicative of the facts that the Exe file was probably placed by the author and not as some sort of global corruption of Fileden.

Google search returns of his site including some Fileden contents show that these files are marked by a red dot, right beside the preview icon.

Since it is clear from the google search returns that some of Fiddaman's files are corrupt then surely it is encumbant upon him to remedy this. The matter is made worse when one also recently recalls Fiddaman placed upon his site a public notice (subject - his files) that his site was safe ..........when in fact it was not !

I will return to your latter point in a seperate reply

> >> (Fwd from concerned & trusted member of SSRIcrusaders)> > > >Info on fileden- does have .exe file.> > > > Not good.> > > The website is owned by; Registrant:> > > > Steward> > 31 Ligo Avenue Stoke Mandeville> > Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire HP225TY> > GB> > Phone: +44.7931464429> > Email: queries@> > <http://cqcounter.com/whois/index.php?query=netoplex.com> When I went> > on the website my security system ran a scan on the website. A> > program was trying to download something to my computer. > > C:/PROGRAMDATA/AMGKAADO2400.exe which means its an exectible. A few> > minutes later a trojanS file came up. I would say its the entire site> > as I just went to fileden.com It also has backlinks to singapore> > child sex trade. The website name is sammyboyforum.com which is a> > prostitution ring in singapore. You can bet your bottom dollar those> > girls and boys are under the age of 18. Huge business in Singapore and> > that's what they are most known for. Does fiddaman in effect> > support a child sex ring? What a freak!>>> > > ** File Den is a site where people can store documents online. Fiddaman is no more responsible for what exists on the File Den server than you or I are. I just went there and I got a warning from Google (I use Chrome for a browser) that malware was at the site. It said:> > Warning: Something's Not Right Here!> www.fileden.com contains content from 12sa.cz.cc, a site known to distribute malware. Your computer might catch a virus if you visit this site.> Google has found malicious software may be installed onto your computer if you proceed. If you've visited this site in the past or you trust this site, it's possible that it has just recently been compromised by a hacker. You should not proceed, and perhaps try again tomorrow or go somewhere else.> We have already notified 12sa.cz.cc that we found malware on the site. For more about the problems found on 12sa.cz.cc, visit the Google Safe Browsing diagnostic page.> > ** Suggesting that Bob Fiddaman is somehow actively involved in a sex ring because a service he uses has a questionable executable file on it is at best lack of knowledge about how things work online. But I know that you are knowledgeable about these things so it can't be that.> > I've had no fewer than 8 people approach me in the past 18 months asking me if I could talk to you about the attacks you make on people, including Fiddaman and how "unfairly" you "fight". One person threatened me that if I did not ban you from my group that he was going to report me to the government for "practicing medicine online".> > Do you know what I told him? I said that as much as I found what you were doing extremely distasteful and very disappointing to me, I don't ban people from my group unless they do something to repeatedly disrupt my group or are repeatedly rude to anyone in the group. I did email you once telling you how sad it made me to see you acting in a way that reflected poorly on you. It didn't seem to have any effect on you.> > Regarding paying to advertise, how is this "taking advantage of the vulnerable?" I don't get it. Please elaborate? Thanks.> > --> >