WSJ Article Comments On Drugging Elderly

January 21, 2008

1. From J. Lanier

Regarding the WSJ article on the use of Risperdal and Seroquel for the aged in

nursing homes.

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These same two meds are handed out like candy by the government of San

Obispo County, California. Not that this bunch of hoodlums qualify

for government. Risperdal was given to my 12 year old daughter, Marin

Lanier, by the county Child Welfare Services after her Mother died.

They are better known as the Nazis of Child Protective Services, CPS.

It was prescribed by her psychiatrist. Risperdal is not approved for

use in that age child. This not being approved was even confirmed

recently by a County Mental Health case worker.

Comment by

J. Lanier

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December 4, 2007 at

3:34 pm

2. From J. Lanier

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My wife, B. Lanier, M.D., was a Family Practice physician in

San Obispo, CA. She was against many prescriptions and worked

often to get people off complicated regimens of drugs. She died of

ovarian cancer in 2000. She did not Pass Away as some say. Pass Away is

what you do at age 95. She was 50. She died in a horrible pain after 18

months of suffering, three types of oncology drugs and four major

surgeries.

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I was her caregiver. Caring for this type of disease for someone you

love so much is inviting the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse into your

home. My daughter, Marin Lanier, was 10 when her Mother was diagnosed.

She held up by hiding her problems in order to help her Mother. Hours

after her Mother died she kissed on her cheek. Feeling that stone cold

body she cracked. She became clinically depressed, understandably. I

approved of her temporarily and part time living with a physician

friend. I was also clinically depressed. A depressed child has an

additional burden living with a depressed Father. I do not mean feeling

Blue. I mean so destroyed that you cannot function in the simplest

ways. I had suffered depression from a previous divorce and knew how

damaging it was and how paranoid the patient becomes. My child would

not have the experience to deal with depression of this magnitude and

be around a depressed Father she loves. Giving a child Risperdal is not

the correct treatment.

Comment by

J. Lanier

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December 4, 2007 at

3:36 pm

3. From J. Lanier

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My daughter, Marin Lanier, told me that she sees people in trees. A

psychiatrist would fill her with drugs. My daughter and I both have

always had vivid visual imaginations. I attempted to settle her by

asking if the trees were real. “Dad, of course.” “Marin, if you know

the people are imaginary and the trees are real then you are okay. Do

not let anyone convince you that you are crazy.” These visions are

understandable in such a severe case of the death of her Mother when

she was 11. I was trying to avoid what the CPS Nazis would do to her.

We were separated at this point and only allowed some phone contact.

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Both Risperdal and Seroquel have damaging side effects. The patient

loses the ability to carry out many functions. Also they reset your

stomach satiation level. You do not feel satisfied until you are over

stuffed. She put on much excess weight. The literature says it may

cause muscle stiffness. It can make you not able to raise your arms

above a certain point and make it difficult to function normally. Who

knows what the long term effects on your brain will be. Men become

temporarily impotent and lose a desire for sex. I know this because I

also was court ordered to use each of these in sequence. If I did not I

would be kept in jail.

Comment by

J. Lanier

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December 4, 2007 at

3:39 pm

4. From J. Lanier

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Child Protective Service use both Risperdal and Seroquel along with

intimidation. They are not trained to care for a death in the family.

They need to have State Mandated specialized training to handle a case

of a Father and a Child in the case of Death. I, J. Lanier for

my daughter Marin Lanier, am fighting for legislation and court

challenges to change how CPS operates. Her therapist was required to

contact CPS under mandated reporting that she suicidal and living out

of the home after the death of her Mother when she was 11. He told CPS

he needed to be present at any interview to protect her life. Flora

of CPS and Lieutenant Leitcher of the Pismo Beach

Police department went to her school against his demands. They refused

her request for the principle to be present which is required by

California Penal Code.

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What would a trained person say and ask in such and interview? The

correct answer is, “Your Father loves you and he loved your Mother and

is now depressed. We will help both of you and in time you will be

happy again and together.”

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My older daughter told me that they asked her if I was “touching her or

Marin on her breast of private parts.” Meaning am I sexually molesting

my 11 year old and 16 year old daughters right after my wife died. I

suggest you accuse any man of this and you will be met with violence. I

fight with words and legal challenges. How disgusting can any agency be

to treat a child and a Father in this way anytime but especially after

such and ordeal. The battle began seven years ago and is still in

progress.

Comment by

Black Bart

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December 4, 2007 at

3:47 pm

5. From J. Lanier Risperdal and Seroquel

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Jackie Duffy, a San Obispo County district attorney, tried to jail

me for calling my child on her 13th Birthday. Okay I also sent Marin

Lanier some children’s jokes. I had broken a restraining order. After

seven months of battling as my own attorney Duffy dropped the charges.

I won by convincing her she would be better off not prosecuting a

loving Father for caring for his daughter after a death of the Mother.

It would help her reputation. Two years later her husband, Judge

Duffy, put me in jail three times for a total of 88 days for

attempting to find if my child was safe. No trial. I asked for a trial

by jury for two years in that case.

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The government has a great way of subduing any rabble rousers.

Risperdal and Seroquel. It defeats a will to stand up for your rights.

If you do not roll over and take your punishment they declare you

mentally incompetent to stand trial. A Catch-22. If you are able to

defend yourself you are not allowed to stand trial.

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The county psychiatrist from Atascadero State Mental Hospital

interviewed me in jail. Fennel, M.D., because I fought the

illegal transgressions of the county, declared me mentally incompetent

to stand trial. (I use this Grammatical sequence so that it shows up in

the search line. How to fight in a Knowledge based Society) What I was

instructed to say is I broke a restraining order and was guilty. I was

kept in jail for treatment with Risperdal and Seroquel. After 88 days

in jail he gave me another competency exam.

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I should say an intimidation exam. In jail I asked what the outcome of

the exam would be. Fennel, M.D. said in intimidation, “If you are

mentally competent you will probably be released with time served. If

you are not competent you may be sent to Atascadero State Mental

Hospital. Will you take time served?” Atascadero is the state

“hospital” that is a prison for sexual serial murderers and their kind.

Not a nice place. He is one of the primary psychiatrists there. If you

are in prison it is easy to intimidate and control you.

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If the drugs do not get you the intimidation will. I said I would take

the time served. At trial I told my Attorney, Fisher, that I did

want a trial by jury. He told me Judge Duffy of SLO County

would, if I gave up my right to a trial, release me that day. He would

not release me on bail until trial. Another man had committed a

robbery. He was released on bail. I was intimidated but there are many

ways to Skin a Cat or a seedy judge, a limp attorney and an out of

control psychiatrist. The Commission on Judicial Performance, a Grand

Jury, the State Bar, the Medical Review, or just using a Knowledge

Based attack.

Comment by

Black Bart

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December 4, 2007 at

4:02 pm

There

is a reason staff turnover at nursing homes is at an all-time high. No

sane staff member would rather be dealing with someone who is on an

uneasy path to death than a patient at a hospital with a reasonable

chance of recovery. And with health provider shortages at every

hospital in the country, no high-quality nursing home worker need stay

in that depressing situation. This great country has an incredible

aversion to seeing death as a part of living and life. This is a huge

difference between us and the rest of the world. Here, we believe in

“life at all costs” and the rest of the world believes in “living at

all costs”. And as for medicating children with all these insane

psychiatric drugs- both parents and providers- you get what you

deserve. Answers to life and death are never easy, regardless of one’s

age but drugging the heck of kids or the elderly as an easy way for YOU

to avoid dealing with them is a shame, shame, shame!

Comment by

First Anonymous

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December 4, 2007 at

4:06 pm

These drugs are given for the convenience of the giver, not the

well-being of the patient.

Comment by

S B

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December 4, 2007 at

4:13 pm

So

the atypical antipsychotics are being used as tools of euthanasia in

our nursing homes. Does this resemble practices of Nazi Germany? Is

there no other medication that can be given that doesn’t kill the

elderly of stroke or heart attack? Are family members abetting this

practice?

First we killed the people the drugs were originally intended for -

people with mental illness. NO WARNING. Zyprexa by Eli Lilly killed my

only son. Next Pharma sucked onto the elderly, even with a black box

warning…shows you how much attention doctors pay to these FDA warnings.

And death will grow, with children, as the FDA approves these drugs for

adolescents. Many children are also being given them off-label.

The only option is a complete overhaul o f the culture of the FDA.

This will not come until Bush is gone and a new president actually

cares about the public health and not just the Pharma bottom line.

This is sickening.

Comment by

Sorrowful

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December 5, 2007 at

9:50 am

My Mother Lillian Glasser was

subjected to massive doses ( 500 mg per day) of the chemical restraint

Seroquel while a ward in a guardianship case. The prescribing physician

Doctor Lichtenstein, a gerentologist with the University of

Texas Medical School in San , was taken to task on this by

attorney nell Maloney. In his sworn deposition testimony Doctor

Lichtenstein admitted that Lillian Glasser had been held in captivity

in Texas and that he was unaware that there was a black box warning on

the use of Seroquel in the elderly.

The Texas Medical Board in Austin Texas, exonerated Doctor Lichtenstein

in a complaint filed about his elder abuse of Lillian Glasser, with the

explanation Doctor Lichtenstein had met the standard of care.

So appalling was the elder abuse of Lillian Glasser by Doctor

Lichtenstein through his administration of the chemical restraint

Seroquel, that Doctor Mark Lachs, of Cornell University, the foremost

expert on elder abuse in the United States offered to testify at

Lillian Glasser’s guardianship trial in New Jersey. Lashbrook esq

of Wilentz, Lillian Glasser’s private attorney declared in court at

hearing in June 2006 that she did not need expert witnesses.

Ms Lashbrook and her co counsel refused to accept the

pro bono testimony of Doctor Lachs. Ms Lashbrook seemed to spend a good

deal of her time in the courtroom doing crossword puzzles, with some

apparent but futile effort at being surreptitous about her crossword

puzzling.

Batsheva Schreiber, an RN licensed in both New York State and New

Jersey is President and CEO of CareManagers Inc of Highland Park New

Jersey. Batsheva Schreiber was the care manager of Lillian Glasser when

she was confined in her home dosed with massive doses of Seroquel ( 500

mg per day) during the months of august and september 2005.

nell Maloney elicted shocking admissions involving Batsheva’s elder

abuse of Lillian Glasser at her video deposition taken in feb 2005.

Among her admissions, Batsheva admitted that she had removed Seroquel

from Lillian Glasser’s home for the purpose of having it powdered

without having been ordered to do so by a Doctor.

Later Batsheva backed off and claimed that the Seroquel had never been powdered

and had been returned to the home.

It is well understood that the purpose of powdering Seroquel is for the

intent of adding the powder to a drink not unlike the manner in which a

date rape drug is administered.

Schrieber also admitted to

abandoning Mother in a Kosher Delicatessen in Staten Island New York on

sept 14,2005,with 2 unlicensed caregivers, and no medications, or

changes of clothes. This abandonment according to Batsheva was to

expedite Mother’s transfer to Texas by private jet and because Batsheva

had to leave. This transfer coincided with the delivery of a temporary

restraining order, wherein Judge Waugh ordered

that Lillian Glasser was not to be removed from the state of New Jersey

before a hearing in his court. Minutes before the temporary restraining

order was served at 474 Lincoln Ave, Highland Park New Jersey, Batsheva

Schrieber drove Lillian Glasser to Staten Island. This removal occurred

while according to a witness Lillian Glasser appeared to be so doped

she needed assistance walking. The abusive use of Seroquel in the

elderly needs to be controlled. I would like information on submitting

Batsheva Schrieber’s depostion to the Licensing Review Authorities in

both New York State and New Jersey

so that the her use of an RN license to commit elder abuse and her right to

administer Seroquel to the elderly may be reviewed.

Comment by

Mark Glasser

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December 5, 2007 at

11:08 pm

Evidence

of effectiveness has been evaluated by several clincal studies

comparing the old to the new antispycotics. The old work as well as the

new if not better and certainly have a better value in the equation.

Have you noticed that as soon as a medication goes generic it quits

working? Notice that direct comparative studies are not done by the

compeating pharma companies. This is calculated to reduce the

understanding that medications (new) are superior in effects, this

often is untrue. This drives the overal cost upward without additional

positive outcomes. Secondly,medical services are much too quick at

prescribing agents without adequate follow-up. Regulations in nursing

homes and Long term care facialites require consultant pharmacists to

review the charts- where is this process in protection. We have the

process, but we don’t choose to use it.

Comment by

Rxman

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December 7, 2007 at

8:01 am

It’s

all about fraud. I fought for my mother’s rights and health from 2001

through 2004, when she was euthanized. i found corruption, lies,

cover-ups, and retaliation at every level of gov.. When the Texas A.G.

did not see a conflict of interest and fraud of a large nursing home

chain owner owing the pharma services co. which contracted with the

state to monitor and prescribe drugs at it’sown and all area

facilities, I had to find out why. Then, I started communicating with

who was fired by PA. O.I.G for reporting the truth about

Bush’s TMAPS, which mandates the prescription of the deadly , harmful,

and expensive drugs. Now, the truth is coming out, as it should have

with this article. Drugging people to death is not care. It is abuse,

fraud, and homicide. You have to be a very sick person to allow your

loved ones such horrible treatment. Pringle and Nanci

have reported the truth.

Comment by

Mother's Advocate

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December 19, 2007 at

10:42 am

The

name of the large nursing home chain was Living Centers of Texas (also

known as Mariner). My findings and the finding of Senator Grassley

confirm, the protective agencies are being controlled by the industries

which they are assigned to regulate. I was victimized by Texas DHS and

Hood County Guardianship for daring to notice and complain about the

big Republican donor “Mariner” and the drugs. The local D.A. nor the

Texas A.g. would take actions against Maurice Walton (brother of the

District Judge, a Republican; even though I have hard evidence of how

he mis-represented Mom, allowing her continued abuse, and dragging the

arena of deceit out until he got every last dime. Now with TMAPS

exposure, Maurice Walton and others should be charged with homicide,

Criminal Official Mis-Conduct, allowing and contributing to the abuse

(torture) and now homicide of my mother. Note, Mariner was indicted for

illegal campaign contributions to the Republican party during this same

time period. Chemical & physical restraint was supposed to end

since 1987. Bush’s TMAPS made it too profitable to kill elderly and

children, and to rob government funding to pay for the drugs (a profit

sharing arrangement. Read ’s full report. Billion of dollars

spent on expensive drugs, as Medicare/Medicaid are supposed to be going

broke. Bush Senior serving on the board of Eli Lilly, when TMAPS

originated under Bush, as governor, makes it hard to believe that Bush

did not understand that this was killing for profits.

Comment by

Mother's Advocate

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December 19, 2007 at

11:06 am

Who

are these morally challenged “so called care professionals”? You think

that if a resident wants to walk outside of their room, they are a

threat to themselves or others. That’s bull!! You want people to be

your perpetual objects which you may attend when you want to. You have

no clue about humane care, there have been plenty of studies which

verify that residents should be allowed to walk and how harmful the

drugs are. Yes, people get aggitated when they are tied down and forced

to relieve their body wastes because the lazy nursing home staff don’t

want to attend them, as needed. It’s all about your schedule! You are a

disgrace and should not be allowed to have anything to do with health

care (now even for dogs). I’d love to be around to see you get the

treatments that you have delivered. I pray you get all of what you so

well deserve!

Comment by

Mother's Advocate

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January 2, 2008 at

4:32 am

I

share the pain and disgust that parents who wrote on this board and the

parents of the children interviewed by Nanci of KEYE News. They

too were isolated from their children. Their children were tortured

with the TMAPS drugs. If you research, you’ll find out why you were

victimized, after, all our tax dollars help keep the “for profit

scheme” in play. It’s a matter of public record that was

told by his Pennsylvania O.I.G. superior that he could not report the

truth about TMAPS, because pharmaceutical companies write big checks to

both parties. Now, why do you think the truth about TMAPS which

mandates these drugs had to come from an investigator from another

state, when the reported “for profit scheme” started in Texas. How

could the Texas Attorney General make a statement that the state was

duped into the TMAPS plan by the pharmaceutical companies, after

reviewing all the facts delivered by and others? Where are

the homicide charges for the thousands who were killed with these drugs?

Comment by

Mother's Advocate

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January 2, 2008 at

4:44 am

My

sister is currently living in a nursing home. Her doctor prescribed the

medication LITHIUM. She began to suffer from excesive hair loss and

loss of appitite. I CAlled this problem to his attention and the

medication was stopped and she is being monitored to ensure that she

does not toss any more chairs at the staff. In addition, she is

currently taking the medication PROLICTIN.Perhaps within twenty minutes

after taking it,she has fallen into a stupor or is fast asleep.

Although I have no medical training, my observation is that she is

being over medicated and there is very little that I can do to prohibit

it. What options do I have other than removing her to a different home

where the same practices are upheld. I live in a different state than

my sister,

Comment by

ie Willis

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January 8, 2008 at

3:37 pm

My

mother died only 65 days after being diagnosed with a urinary tract

infection (UTI) and “psychosis.” As I learned much too late, delirium

is COMMON among the elderly and is caused by many ailments or

conditions that commonly afflict the elderly. A UTI often causes

delirium in the elderly.

The ER doctor insisted that Mom be sent to a psychiatric ward. My

sisters and I knew nothing about geriatric medicine and we trusted the

doctor’s advice. When the psychiatrist prescribed Risperdal only a few

days later, we did not know enough to complain.

When we later complained (not because we KNEW better, but because we

knew that our mother wasn’t psychotic — that she did not have a history

of mental illness), the doctor did NOT discontinue Risperdal.

I WAS my mother’s designated health advocate, and a long-distance

caregiver. I had an absolute right to insist that this drug not be

given to her. Shame on me for not checking back — for trusting that the

doctor would discontinue what I later learned is a very dangerous drug

for the elderly. I also later learned that this is a drug that is all

too often used in nursing homes to manage “behavioral problems” in the

elderly.

Long after Mom’s death I learned that Risperdal was the

pharmaceutical opposite of our mother’s Parkinson’s disease medication.

While her PD medication stimulated the production of dopamine — what

helps people move normally — Risperdal blocks the production. My mother

died because of a series of overlapping medical mishaps. However, the

mis-diagnosis of delirium as psychosis and the prescription of

Risperdal were, in my opinion, the two medical mishaps most central to

the “domino effect” that resulted in Mom’s multi-system failure, a

coma, and her early death.

I learned too late all that I should have known about preventing medical

mistakes in the care of my 85-year-young mother.

My book Taking Charge: Good Medical Care for the Elderly and How to

Get It teaches family caregivers to have the courage to advocate for

their loved ones. It teaches them that family caregivers are the

persons most likely to know when there is an emerging crisis. Taking

Charge empowers family caregivers to get the best possible care for

their loved ones. It also teaches them the importance of taking charge,

since most doctors, most nurses, and most other professional caregivers

for the elderly have never had one class in geriatrics.

You may preview substantial portions of Taking Charge: Good Medical Care for the

Elderly and How to Get It at

http://goodmedicalcare.com

Comment by

Jeanne M. Hannah

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January 19, 2008 at

6:41 pm

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