Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 I find it incredulous that a person who is pro-psych meds, pro ECT, pro-propaganda, shows up on a board that is specifically designed to debunk these myths, and then tries to convince us that he's right and we're wrong. I find that highly offensive. He doesn't want help. He wants to proselytize about how much psychiatry has helped him. With every piece of evidence we present, he says it's not true, when even the experts, from whence we have all garnered our opinions, say mental illness is NOT a disease, ADD is NOT a disease, depression is NOT a disease, etc. He thinks he's been helped, so if he's been helped what's he doing here??? I think sometimes it's a case of thou doth protest too much about psychiatric cures, but after ten years of research, writing a book, being a plaintiff in two major lawsuits against these murderous drug companies, Larry ain't ever gonna convince me with his testimonials that he's right and I'm wrong! Punkt! ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 I find it incredulous that a person who is pro-psych meds, pro ECT, pro-propaganda, shows up on a board that is specifically designed to debunk these myths, and then tries to convince us that he's right and we're wrong. I find that highly offensive. He doesn't want help. He wants to proselytize about how much psychiatry has helped him. With every piece of evidence we present, he says it's not true, when even the experts, from whence we have all garnered our opinions, say mental illness is NOT a disease, ADD is NOT a disease, depression is NOT a disease, etc. He thinks he's been helped, so if he's been helped what's he doing here??? I think sometimes it's a case of thou doth protest too much about psychiatric cures, but after ten years of research, writing a book, being a plaintiff in two major lawsuits against these murderous drug companies, Larry ain't ever gonna convince me with his testimonials that he's right and I'm wrong! Punkt! ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 I find it incredulous that a person who is pro-psych meds, pro ECT, pro-propaganda, shows up on a board that is specifically designed to debunk these myths, and then tries to convince us that he's right and we're wrong. I find that highly offensive. He doesn't want help. He wants to proselytize about how much psychiatry has helped him. With every piece of evidence we present, he says it's not true, when even the experts, from whence we have all garnered our opinions, say mental illness is NOT a disease, ADD is NOT a disease, depression is NOT a disease, etc. He thinks he's been helped, so if he's been helped what's he doing here??? I think sometimes it's a case of thou doth protest too much about psychiatric cures, but after ten years of research, writing a book, being a plaintiff in two major lawsuits against these murderous drug companies, Larry ain't ever gonna convince me with his testimonials that he's right and I'm wrong! Punkt! ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 I find it incredulous that a person who is pro-psych meds, pro ECT, pro-propaganda, shows up on a board that is specifically designed to debunk these myths, and then tries to convince us that he's right and we're wrong. I find that highly offensive. He doesn't want help. He wants to proselytize about how much psychiatry has helped him. With every piece of evidence we present, he says it's not true, when even the experts, from whence we have all garnered our opinions, say mental illness is NOT a disease, ADD is NOT a disease, depression is NOT a disease, etc. He thinks he's been helped, so if he's been helped what's he doing here??? I think sometimes it's a case of thou doth protest too much about psychiatric cures, but after ten years of research, writing a book, being a plaintiff in two major lawsuits against these murderous drug companies, Larry ain't ever gonna convince me with his testimonials that he's right and I'm wrong! Punkt! ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 Maybe we should look at people like Larry as reminders of what the majority of people actually think. I'm discovering how wonderful it is to be on a list like this, with others who know what I know about allopathic medicine and drugs. However, when we leave the safe space of a site like this . . . what? It is the unfortunate reality that most people trust their doctors blindly, take what they are prescribed, and believe it will help them. I was one of those people not long ago. I could easily close my eyes and drift off to dreamland before an operation, feeling I was in the safe hands of experts who were there to help me. I could call upon the doctor when I was ill and believe he knew the problem and could prescribe me a medicine that would help. If the docs at the hospital couldn't figure out what was causing my IBS, it was only because not enough was understood about it yet, and with time they would know how to help me. DUH, you're probably thinking. Well is there anybody here who DIDN'T think like this, at least when they were young? How did we find out what the truth is? By being messed up by drugs and the people giving them to us -- or watching it happen to friends and loved ones. A curious form of education. Baptism by fire, you could almost say. It's been helpful to me to think about what to say to Larry, and to read what others are saying. We could be talking to millions of other people who think as he does. I wish that were the case because I'm sure some of them would listen to us. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 Maybe we should look at people like Larry as reminders of what the majority of people actually think. I'm discovering how wonderful it is to be on a list like this, with others who know what I know about allopathic medicine and drugs. However, when we leave the safe space of a site like this . . . what? It is the unfortunate reality that most people trust their doctors blindly, take what they are prescribed, and believe it will help them. I was one of those people not long ago. I could easily close my eyes and drift off to dreamland before an operation, feeling I was in the safe hands of experts who were there to help me. I could call upon the doctor when I was ill and believe he knew the problem and could prescribe me a medicine that would help. If the docs at the hospital couldn't figure out what was causing my IBS, it was only because not enough was understood about it yet, and with time they would know how to help me. DUH, you're probably thinking. Well is there anybody here who DIDN'T think like this, at least when they were young? How did we find out what the truth is? By being messed up by drugs and the people giving them to us -- or watching it happen to friends and loved ones. A curious form of education. Baptism by fire, you could almost say. It's been helpful to me to think about what to say to Larry, and to read what others are saying. We could be talking to millions of other people who think as he does. I wish that were the case because I'm sure some of them would listen to us. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 Maybe we should look at people like Larry as reminders of what the majority of people actually think. I'm discovering how wonderful it is to be on a list like this, with others who know what I know about allopathic medicine and drugs. However, when we leave the safe space of a site like this . . . what? It is the unfortunate reality that most people trust their doctors blindly, take what they are prescribed, and believe it will help them. I was one of those people not long ago. I could easily close my eyes and drift off to dreamland before an operation, feeling I was in the safe hands of experts who were there to help me. I could call upon the doctor when I was ill and believe he knew the problem and could prescribe me a medicine that would help. If the docs at the hospital couldn't figure out what was causing my IBS, it was only because not enough was understood about it yet, and with time they would know how to help me. DUH, you're probably thinking. Well is there anybody here who DIDN'T think like this, at least when they were young? How did we find out what the truth is? By being messed up by drugs and the people giving them to us -- or watching it happen to friends and loved ones. A curious form of education. Baptism by fire, you could almost say. It's been helpful to me to think about what to say to Larry, and to read what others are saying. We could be talking to millions of other people who think as he does. I wish that were the case because I'm sure some of them would listen to us. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 Maybe we should look at people like Larry as reminders of what the majority of people actually think. I'm discovering how wonderful it is to be on a list like this, with others who know what I know about allopathic medicine and drugs. However, when we leave the safe space of a site like this . . . what? It is the unfortunate reality that most people trust their doctors blindly, take what they are prescribed, and believe it will help them. I was one of those people not long ago. I could easily close my eyes and drift off to dreamland before an operation, feeling I was in the safe hands of experts who were there to help me. I could call upon the doctor when I was ill and believe he knew the problem and could prescribe me a medicine that would help. If the docs at the hospital couldn't figure out what was causing my IBS, it was only because not enough was understood about it yet, and with time they would know how to help me. DUH, you're probably thinking. Well is there anybody here who DIDN'T think like this, at least when they were young? How did we find out what the truth is? By being messed up by drugs and the people giving them to us -- or watching it happen to friends and loved ones. A curious form of education. Baptism by fire, you could almost say. It's been helpful to me to think about what to say to Larry, and to read what others are saying. We could be talking to millions of other people who think as he does. I wish that were the case because I'm sure some of them would listen to us. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 I beg to differ with you!!!! you want to go back the way it was years ago when " MENTAL ILLNESS " was not even covered by insurance companies???? Once again & it is only my opinion the meds have helped me far more then they've hurt me!!!!!! LARRY S Re: sacaring people away Maybe we should look at people like Larry as reminders of what the majority of people actually think. I'm discovering how wonderful it is to be on a list like this, with others who know what I know about allopathic medicine and drugs. However, when we leave the safe space of a site like this . . . what? It is the unfortunate reality that most people trust their doctors blindly, take what they are prescribed, and believe it will help them. I was one of those people not long ago. I could easily close my eyes and drift off to dreamland before an operation, feeling I was in the safe hands of experts who were there to help me. I could call upon the doctor when I was ill and believe he knew the problem and could prescribe me a medicine that would help. If the docs at the hospital couldn't figure out what was causing my IBS, it was only because not enough was understood about it yet, and with time they would know how to help me. DUH, you're probably thinking. Well is there anybody here who DIDN'T think like this, at least when they were young? How did we find out what the truth is? By being messed up by drugs and the people giving them to us -- or watching it happen to friends and loved ones. A curious form of education. Baptism by fire, you could almost say. It's been helpful to me to think about what to say to Larry, and to read what others are saying. We could be talking to millions of other people who think as he does. I wish that were the case because I'm sure some of them would listen to us. . ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Never miss an email again! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search./toolbar/features/mail/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 I beg to differ with you!!!! you want to go back the way it was years ago when " MENTAL ILLNESS " was not even covered by insurance companies???? Once again & it is only my opinion the meds have helped me far more then they've hurt me!!!!!! LARRY S Re: sacaring people away Maybe we should look at people like Larry as reminders of what the majority of people actually think. I'm discovering how wonderful it is to be on a list like this, with others who know what I know about allopathic medicine and drugs. However, when we leave the safe space of a site like this . . . what? It is the unfortunate reality that most people trust their doctors blindly, take what they are prescribed, and believe it will help them. I was one of those people not long ago. I could easily close my eyes and drift off to dreamland before an operation, feeling I was in the safe hands of experts who were there to help me. I could call upon the doctor when I was ill and believe he knew the problem and could prescribe me a medicine that would help. If the docs at the hospital couldn't figure out what was causing my IBS, it was only because not enough was understood about it yet, and with time they would know how to help me. DUH, you're probably thinking. Well is there anybody here who DIDN'T think like this, at least when they were young? How did we find out what the truth is? By being messed up by drugs and the people giving them to us -- or watching it happen to friends and loved ones. A curious form of education. Baptism by fire, you could almost say. It's been helpful to me to think about what to say to Larry, and to read what others are saying. We could be talking to millions of other people who think as he does. I wish that were the case because I'm sure some of them would listen to us. . ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Never miss an email again! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search./toolbar/features/mail/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 I beg to differ with you!!!! you want to go back the way it was years ago when " MENTAL ILLNESS " was not even covered by insurance companies???? Once again & it is only my opinion the meds have helped me far more then they've hurt me!!!!!! LARRY S Re: sacaring people away Maybe we should look at people like Larry as reminders of what the majority of people actually think. I'm discovering how wonderful it is to be on a list like this, with others who know what I know about allopathic medicine and drugs. However, when we leave the safe space of a site like this . . . what? It is the unfortunate reality that most people trust their doctors blindly, take what they are prescribed, and believe it will help them. I was one of those people not long ago. I could easily close my eyes and drift off to dreamland before an operation, feeling I was in the safe hands of experts who were there to help me. I could call upon the doctor when I was ill and believe he knew the problem and could prescribe me a medicine that would help. If the docs at the hospital couldn't figure out what was causing my IBS, it was only because not enough was understood about it yet, and with time they would know how to help me. DUH, you're probably thinking. Well is there anybody here who DIDN'T think like this, at least when they were young? How did we find out what the truth is? By being messed up by drugs and the people giving them to us -- or watching it happen to friends and loved ones. A curious form of education. Baptism by fire, you could almost say. It's been helpful to me to think about what to say to Larry, and to read what others are saying. We could be talking to millions of other people who think as he does. I wish that were the case because I'm sure some of them would listen to us. . ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Never miss an email again! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search./toolbar/features/mail/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 I beg to differ with you!!!! you want to go back the way it was years ago when " MENTAL ILLNESS " was not even covered by insurance companies???? Once again & it is only my opinion the meds have helped me far more then they've hurt me!!!!!! LARRY S Re: sacaring people away Maybe we should look at people like Larry as reminders of what the majority of people actually think. I'm discovering how wonderful it is to be on a list like this, with others who know what I know about allopathic medicine and drugs. However, when we leave the safe space of a site like this . . . what? It is the unfortunate reality that most people trust their doctors blindly, take what they are prescribed, and believe it will help them. I was one of those people not long ago. I could easily close my eyes and drift off to dreamland before an operation, feeling I was in the safe hands of experts who were there to help me. I could call upon the doctor when I was ill and believe he knew the problem and could prescribe me a medicine that would help. If the docs at the hospital couldn't figure out what was causing my IBS, it was only because not enough was understood about it yet, and with time they would know how to help me. DUH, you're probably thinking. Well is there anybody here who DIDN'T think like this, at least when they were young? How did we find out what the truth is? By being messed up by drugs and the people giving them to us -- or watching it happen to friends and loved ones. A curious form of education. Baptism by fire, you could almost say. It's been helpful to me to think about what to say to Larry, and to read what others are saying. We could be talking to millions of other people who think as he does. I wish that were the case because I'm sure some of them would listen to us. . ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Never miss an email again! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search./toolbar/features/mail/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 So be it I " m sorry for expressing my feelings in an open forum. I guess " I'm wrong because you're right!!! GOD BLESS LARRY S Re: sacaring people away I find it incredulous that a person who is pro-psych meds, pro ECT, pro-propaganda, shows up on a board that is specifically designed to debunk these myths, and then tries to convince us that he's right and we're wrong. I find that highly offensive. He doesn't want help. He wants to proselytize about how much psychiatry has helped him. With every piece of evidence we present, he says it's not true, when even the experts, from whence we have all garnered our opinions, say mental illness is NOT a disease, ADD is NOT a disease, depression is NOT a disease, etc. He thinks he's been helped, so if he's been helped what's he doing here??? I think sometimes it's a case of thou doth protest too much about psychiatric cures, but after ten years of research, writing a book, being a plaintiff in two major lawsuits against these murderous drug companies, Larry ain't ever gonna convince me with his testimonials that he's right and I'm wrong! Punkt! ************ ********* ********* ******** See what's free at http://www.aol. com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 So be it I " m sorry for expressing my feelings in an open forum. I guess " I'm wrong because you're right!!! GOD BLESS LARRY S Re: sacaring people away I find it incredulous that a person who is pro-psych meds, pro ECT, pro-propaganda, shows up on a board that is specifically designed to debunk these myths, and then tries to convince us that he's right and we're wrong. I find that highly offensive. He doesn't want help. He wants to proselytize about how much psychiatry has helped him. With every piece of evidence we present, he says it's not true, when even the experts, from whence we have all garnered our opinions, say mental illness is NOT a disease, ADD is NOT a disease, depression is NOT a disease, etc. He thinks he's been helped, so if he's been helped what's he doing here??? I think sometimes it's a case of thou doth protest too much about psychiatric cures, but after ten years of research, writing a book, being a plaintiff in two major lawsuits against these murderous drug companies, Larry ain't ever gonna convince me with his testimonials that he's right and I'm wrong! Punkt! ************ ********* ********* ******** See what's free at http://www.aol. com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 So be it I " m sorry for expressing my feelings in an open forum. I guess " I'm wrong because you're right!!! GOD BLESS LARRY S Re: sacaring people away I find it incredulous that a person who is pro-psych meds, pro ECT, pro-propaganda, shows up on a board that is specifically designed to debunk these myths, and then tries to convince us that he's right and we're wrong. I find that highly offensive. He doesn't want help. He wants to proselytize about how much psychiatry has helped him. With every piece of evidence we present, he says it's not true, when even the experts, from whence we have all garnered our opinions, say mental illness is NOT a disease, ADD is NOT a disease, depression is NOT a disease, etc. He thinks he's been helped, so if he's been helped what's he doing here??? I think sometimes it's a case of thou doth protest too much about psychiatric cures, but after ten years of research, writing a book, being a plaintiff in two major lawsuits against these murderous drug companies, Larry ain't ever gonna convince me with his testimonials that he's right and I'm wrong! Punkt! ************ ********* ********* ******** See what's free at http://www.aol. com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 So be it I " m sorry for expressing my feelings in an open forum. I guess " I'm wrong because you're right!!! GOD BLESS LARRY S Re: sacaring people away I find it incredulous that a person who is pro-psych meds, pro ECT, pro-propaganda, shows up on a board that is specifically designed to debunk these myths, and then tries to convince us that he's right and we're wrong. I find that highly offensive. He doesn't want help. He wants to proselytize about how much psychiatry has helped him. With every piece of evidence we present, he says it's not true, when even the experts, from whence we have all garnered our opinions, say mental illness is NOT a disease, ADD is NOT a disease, depression is NOT a disease, etc. He thinks he's been helped, so if he's been helped what's he doing here??? I think sometimes it's a case of thou doth protest too much about psychiatric cures, but after ten years of research, writing a book, being a plaintiff in two major lawsuits against these murderous drug companies, Larry ain't ever gonna convince me with his testimonials that he's right and I'm wrong! Punkt! ************ ********* ********* ******** See what's free at http://www.aol. com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 they have in fact hurt you? Re: Re: sacaring people away I beg to differ with you!!!! you want to go back the way it was years ago when " MENTAL ILLNESS " was not even covered by insurance companies???? Once again & it is only my opinion the meds have helped me far more then they've hurt me!!!!!! LARRY S Re: sacaring people away Maybe we should look at people like Larry as reminders of what the majority of people actually think. I'm discovering how wonderful it is to be on a list like this, with others who know what I know about allopathic medicine and drugs. However, when we leave the safe space of a site like this . . . what? It is the unfortunate reality that most people trust their doctors blindly, take what they are prescribed, and believe it will help them. I was one of those people not long ago. I could easily close my eyes and drift off to dreamland before an operation, feeling I was in the safe hands of experts who were there to help me. I could call upon the doctor when I was ill and believe he knew the problem and could prescribe me a medicine that would help. If the docs at the hospital couldn't figure out what was causing my IBS, it was only because not enough was understood about it yet, and with time they would know how to help me. DUH, you're probably thinking. Well is there anybody here who DIDN'T think like this, at least when they were young? How did we find out what the truth is? By being messed up by drugs and the people giving them to us -- or watching it happen to friends and loved ones. A curious form of education. Baptism by fire, you could almost say. It's been helpful to me to think about what to say to Larry, and to read what others are saying. We could be talking to millions of other people who think as he does. I wish that were the case because I'm sure some of them would listen to us. . __________________________________________________________ Never miss an email again! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools. <http://tools.search./toolbar/features/mail/> search./toolbar/features/mail/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 they have in fact hurt you? Re: Re: sacaring people away I beg to differ with you!!!! you want to go back the way it was years ago when " MENTAL ILLNESS " was not even covered by insurance companies???? Once again & it is only my opinion the meds have helped me far more then they've hurt me!!!!!! LARRY S Re: sacaring people away Maybe we should look at people like Larry as reminders of what the majority of people actually think. I'm discovering how wonderful it is to be on a list like this, with others who know what I know about allopathic medicine and drugs. However, when we leave the safe space of a site like this . . . what? It is the unfortunate reality that most people trust their doctors blindly, take what they are prescribed, and believe it will help them. I was one of those people not long ago. I could easily close my eyes and drift off to dreamland before an operation, feeling I was in the safe hands of experts who were there to help me. I could call upon the doctor when I was ill and believe he knew the problem and could prescribe me a medicine that would help. If the docs at the hospital couldn't figure out what was causing my IBS, it was only because not enough was understood about it yet, and with time they would know how to help me. DUH, you're probably thinking. Well is there anybody here who DIDN'T think like this, at least when they were young? How did we find out what the truth is? By being messed up by drugs and the people giving them to us -- or watching it happen to friends and loved ones. A curious form of education. Baptism by fire, you could almost say. It's been helpful to me to think about what to say to Larry, and to read what others are saying. We could be talking to millions of other people who think as he does. I wish that were the case because I'm sure some of them would listen to us. . __________________________________________________________ Never miss an email again! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools. <http://tools.search./toolbar/features/mail/> search./toolbar/features/mail/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 they have in fact hurt you? Re: Re: sacaring people away I beg to differ with you!!!! you want to go back the way it was years ago when " MENTAL ILLNESS " was not even covered by insurance companies???? Once again & it is only my opinion the meds have helped me far more then they've hurt me!!!!!! LARRY S Re: sacaring people away Maybe we should look at people like Larry as reminders of what the majority of people actually think. I'm discovering how wonderful it is to be on a list like this, with others who know what I know about allopathic medicine and drugs. However, when we leave the safe space of a site like this . . . what? It is the unfortunate reality that most people trust their doctors blindly, take what they are prescribed, and believe it will help them. I was one of those people not long ago. I could easily close my eyes and drift off to dreamland before an operation, feeling I was in the safe hands of experts who were there to help me. I could call upon the doctor when I was ill and believe he knew the problem and could prescribe me a medicine that would help. If the docs at the hospital couldn't figure out what was causing my IBS, it was only because not enough was understood about it yet, and with time they would know how to help me. DUH, you're probably thinking. Well is there anybody here who DIDN'T think like this, at least when they were young? How did we find out what the truth is? By being messed up by drugs and the people giving them to us -- or watching it happen to friends and loved ones. A curious form of education. Baptism by fire, you could almost say. It's been helpful to me to think about what to say to Larry, and to read what others are saying. We could be talking to millions of other people who think as he does. I wish that were the case because I'm sure some of them would listen to us. . __________________________________________________________ Never miss an email again! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools. <http://tools.search./toolbar/features/mail/> search./toolbar/features/mail/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 they have in fact hurt you? Re: Re: sacaring people away I beg to differ with you!!!! you want to go back the way it was years ago when " MENTAL ILLNESS " was not even covered by insurance companies???? Once again & it is only my opinion the meds have helped me far more then they've hurt me!!!!!! LARRY S Re: sacaring people away Maybe we should look at people like Larry as reminders of what the majority of people actually think. I'm discovering how wonderful it is to be on a list like this, with others who know what I know about allopathic medicine and drugs. However, when we leave the safe space of a site like this . . . what? It is the unfortunate reality that most people trust their doctors blindly, take what they are prescribed, and believe it will help them. I was one of those people not long ago. I could easily close my eyes and drift off to dreamland before an operation, feeling I was in the safe hands of experts who were there to help me. I could call upon the doctor when I was ill and believe he knew the problem and could prescribe me a medicine that would help. If the docs at the hospital couldn't figure out what was causing my IBS, it was only because not enough was understood about it yet, and with time they would know how to help me. DUH, you're probably thinking. Well is there anybody here who DIDN'T think like this, at least when they were young? How did we find out what the truth is? By being messed up by drugs and the people giving them to us -- or watching it happen to friends and loved ones. A curious form of education. Baptism by fire, you could almost say. It's been helpful to me to think about what to say to Larry, and to read what others are saying. We could be talking to millions of other people who think as he does. I wish that were the case because I'm sure some of them would listen to us. . __________________________________________________________ Never miss an email again! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools. <http://tools.search./toolbar/features/mail/> search./toolbar/features/mail/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 I rarely get involved in the cussin' & discussin' but I would actually like to see a return to the time when we took a diagnosis of mentall illness VERY seriously. Before the " ask your doctor if such-and-such is right for you " mentality. If the stigma had not already been greatly lessened by the advertising machine, I would most likely have never have thought of my son as needing to " seek professional help " as the on-line survey we filled out urged us to do. But instead, I bought into all the " chemical imbalance " B.S. and led my son to the poisoned well from which he got the elixir of death. Terry Larry Schreiber <indycoltsfan1945@...> wrote: I beg to differ with you!!!! you want to go back the way it was years ago when " MENTAL ILLNESS " was not even covered by insurance companies???? Once again & it is only my opinion the meds have helped me far more then they've hurt me!!!!!! LARRY S Re: sacaring people away Maybe we should look at people like Larry as reminders of what the majority of people actually think. I'm discovering how wonderful it is to be on a list like this, with others who know what I know about allopathic medicine and drugs. However, when we leave the safe space of a site like this . . . what? It is the unfortunate reality that most people trust their doctors blindly, take what they are prescribed, and believe it will help them. I was one of those people not long ago. I could easily close my eyes and drift off to dreamland before an operation, feeling I was in the safe hands of experts who were there to help me. I could call upon the doctor when I was ill and believe he knew the problem and could prescribe me a medicine that would help. If the docs at the hospital couldn't figure out what was causing my IBS, it was only because not enough was understood about it yet, and with time they would know how to help me. DUH, you're probably thinking. Well is there anybody here who DIDN'T think like this, at least when they were young? How did we find out what the truth is? By being messed up by drugs and the people giving them to us -- or watching it happen to friends and loved ones. A curious form of education. Baptism by fire, you could almost say. It's been helpful to me to think about what to say to Larry, and to read what others are saying. We could be talking to millions of other people who think as he does. I wish that were the case because I'm sure some of them would listen to us. . __________________________________________________________ Never miss an email again! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search./toolbar/features/mail/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 I rarely get involved in the cussin' & discussin' but I would actually like to see a return to the time when we took a diagnosis of mentall illness VERY seriously. Before the " ask your doctor if such-and-such is right for you " mentality. If the stigma had not already been greatly lessened by the advertising machine, I would most likely have never have thought of my son as needing to " seek professional help " as the on-line survey we filled out urged us to do. But instead, I bought into all the " chemical imbalance " B.S. and led my son to the poisoned well from which he got the elixir of death. Terry Larry Schreiber <indycoltsfan1945@...> wrote: I beg to differ with you!!!! you want to go back the way it was years ago when " MENTAL ILLNESS " was not even covered by insurance companies???? Once again & it is only my opinion the meds have helped me far more then they've hurt me!!!!!! LARRY S Re: sacaring people away Maybe we should look at people like Larry as reminders of what the majority of people actually think. I'm discovering how wonderful it is to be on a list like this, with others who know what I know about allopathic medicine and drugs. However, when we leave the safe space of a site like this . . . what? It is the unfortunate reality that most people trust their doctors blindly, take what they are prescribed, and believe it will help them. I was one of those people not long ago. I could easily close my eyes and drift off to dreamland before an operation, feeling I was in the safe hands of experts who were there to help me. I could call upon the doctor when I was ill and believe he knew the problem and could prescribe me a medicine that would help. If the docs at the hospital couldn't figure out what was causing my IBS, it was only because not enough was understood about it yet, and with time they would know how to help me. DUH, you're probably thinking. Well is there anybody here who DIDN'T think like this, at least when they were young? How did we find out what the truth is? By being messed up by drugs and the people giving them to us -- or watching it happen to friends and loved ones. A curious form of education. Baptism by fire, you could almost say. It's been helpful to me to think about what to say to Larry, and to read what others are saying. We could be talking to millions of other people who think as he does. I wish that were the case because I'm sure some of them would listen to us. . __________________________________________________________ Never miss an email again! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search./toolbar/features/mail/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 I rarely get involved in the cussin' & discussin' but I would actually like to see a return to the time when we took a diagnosis of mentall illness VERY seriously. Before the " ask your doctor if such-and-such is right for you " mentality. If the stigma had not already been greatly lessened by the advertising machine, I would most likely have never have thought of my son as needing to " seek professional help " as the on-line survey we filled out urged us to do. But instead, I bought into all the " chemical imbalance " B.S. and led my son to the poisoned well from which he got the elixir of death. Terry Larry Schreiber <indycoltsfan1945@...> wrote: I beg to differ with you!!!! you want to go back the way it was years ago when " MENTAL ILLNESS " was not even covered by insurance companies???? Once again & it is only my opinion the meds have helped me far more then they've hurt me!!!!!! LARRY S Re: sacaring people away Maybe we should look at people like Larry as reminders of what the majority of people actually think. I'm discovering how wonderful it is to be on a list like this, with others who know what I know about allopathic medicine and drugs. However, when we leave the safe space of a site like this . . . what? It is the unfortunate reality that most people trust their doctors blindly, take what they are prescribed, and believe it will help them. I was one of those people not long ago. I could easily close my eyes and drift off to dreamland before an operation, feeling I was in the safe hands of experts who were there to help me. I could call upon the doctor when I was ill and believe he knew the problem and could prescribe me a medicine that would help. If the docs at the hospital couldn't figure out what was causing my IBS, it was only because not enough was understood about it yet, and with time they would know how to help me. DUH, you're probably thinking. Well is there anybody here who DIDN'T think like this, at least when they were young? How did we find out what the truth is? By being messed up by drugs and the people giving them to us -- or watching it happen to friends and loved ones. A curious form of education. Baptism by fire, you could almost say. It's been helpful to me to think about what to say to Larry, and to read what others are saying. We could be talking to millions of other people who think as he does. I wish that were the case because I'm sure some of them would listen to us. . __________________________________________________________ Never miss an email again! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search./toolbar/features/mail/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 I rarely get involved in the cussin' & discussin' but I would actually like to see a return to the time when we took a diagnosis of mentall illness VERY seriously. Before the " ask your doctor if such-and-such is right for you " mentality. If the stigma had not already been greatly lessened by the advertising machine, I would most likely have never have thought of my son as needing to " seek professional help " as the on-line survey we filled out urged us to do. But instead, I bought into all the " chemical imbalance " B.S. and led my son to the poisoned well from which he got the elixir of death. Terry Larry Schreiber <indycoltsfan1945@...> wrote: I beg to differ with you!!!! you want to go back the way it was years ago when " MENTAL ILLNESS " was not even covered by insurance companies???? Once again & it is only my opinion the meds have helped me far more then they've hurt me!!!!!! LARRY S Re: sacaring people away Maybe we should look at people like Larry as reminders of what the majority of people actually think. I'm discovering how wonderful it is to be on a list like this, with others who know what I know about allopathic medicine and drugs. However, when we leave the safe space of a site like this . . . what? It is the unfortunate reality that most people trust their doctors blindly, take what they are prescribed, and believe it will help them. I was one of those people not long ago. I could easily close my eyes and drift off to dreamland before an operation, feeling I was in the safe hands of experts who were there to help me. I could call upon the doctor when I was ill and believe he knew the problem and could prescribe me a medicine that would help. If the docs at the hospital couldn't figure out what was causing my IBS, it was only because not enough was understood about it yet, and with time they would know how to help me. DUH, you're probably thinking. Well is there anybody here who DIDN'T think like this, at least when they were young? How did we find out what the truth is? By being messed up by drugs and the people giving them to us -- or watching it happen to friends and loved ones. A curious form of education. Baptism by fire, you could almost say. It's been helpful to me to think about what to say to Larry, and to read what others are saying. We could be talking to millions of other people who think as he does. I wish that were the case because I'm sure some of them would listen to us. . __________________________________________________________ Never miss an email again! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search./toolbar/features/mail/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 oh Larry quit the martyr bit, it just seems like you are a dunce cap wearing Imperial Wizard, at our civil rights rally Re: sacaring people away I find it incredulous that a person who is pro-psych meds, pro ECT, pro-propaganda, shows up on a board that is specifically designed to debunk these myths, and then tries to convince us that he's right and we're wrong. I find that highly offensive. He doesn't want help. He wants to proselytize about how much psychiatry has helped him. With every piece of evidence we present, he says it's not true, when even the experts, from whence we have all garnered our opinions, say mental illness is NOT a disease, ADD is NOT a disease, depression is NOT a disease, etc. He thinks he's been helped, so if he's been helped what's he doing here??? I think sometimes it's a case of thou doth protest too much about psychiatric cures, but after ten years of research, writing a book, being a plaintiff in two major lawsuits against these murderous drug companies, Larry ain't ever gonna convince me with his testimonials that he's right and I'm wrong! Punkt! ************ ********* ********* ******** See what's free at http://www.aol. com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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