hello

[Guest guest]

Do you know of a good holistic Doctor in

my area?

El Paso, Texas

riginal Message-----

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ]

On Behalf Of ladybugsandbees

Sent: Wednesday,

August 27, 2008 7:52 PM

iodine

Subject: Re: Hello

Welcome Virginia. Your story is not

uncommon. I see a few things so let me

bullet point them for you.

1) Kelp is not a good source of clean iodine. It has been show to be high

in arsenic and other toxic halides so you may be doing more harm than good.

2) Iodoral & Lugols liquid are not sold at drug stores (well Lugols and be

acquired at the pharmacy in rare cases). Iodoral can only be purchase

online or through a medical professional. Our resources for it are

www.breastcancerchoices.org (12.5 mg tablets) or www.illnessisoptional.com

(12.5 and 50 mg tablets). You can read more about this product on

www.optimox.com which is the research doctor's (Dr. Abraham) website.

3) I personally would not bother telling my Kaiser doctor about taking

iodine. Many will belittle you and tell you that it is not necessary that

it is in the food and you get enough from salt. Blah, blah, blah. You

don't but they haven't taken the time to learn.

4) Levothyroxin is a T4 hormone only drug. Your body requires the full

spectrum of hormones (T1, T2, T3 and T4 plus calcitonen) to function

correctly. Buy supplying one hormone and expecting the body to come up with

what it needs you are short circuiting the system. Drugs like Armour,

Nature-throid and compounded T3/T4 drugs are better choices and most feel

better when on them. Check out www.stopthethyroidmadness.com for more info

on natural thyroid hormone replacement (this is rx by the way). I spent 6

years on Synthroid and felt like I was dying. I got on Armour 2 1/2 years

ago and feel fabulous. I take 100 mgs of Iodoral as well.

What you need is a good holistic doctor. Because you mentioned Kaiser I am

guessing you are on the west coast. If you want to share where you live we

may be able to suggest a good doc to help you.

[Guest guest]

This is the list of good Doc's I have. Not sure if one is near you - they are from the iodine literate docs list. You may have to drive a ways. I drive 2 1/2 hours to see Dr. Brownstein. Worth every mile!

Texas Hotze, MD - Houston, TXHotze Health and Wellness Center877.698.8698Maxine , MD4725 Wellington St.PO Box 8645Greenville, TX 75401903.450.0120Nellie Grose, MD - Houston, TXwww.tchh.net713.660.6620Bessie Owens, DO9500 Lakeview Parkway Suite 300Rowlett, Texas 75088972-613-7700http://familypractice.usRon Manzanero, MD911 W. Lane #205Austin, TX 78759512-343-6223/512-343-0727www.austinintegrativemedicine.comJerry Tennant, MD -Tennant Institute for Integrative Medicinewww.jtennantmd.com5601 N. MacArthur Blvd Suite 200Irving, TX 75038972.580.1156

RE: Hello

Do you know of a good holistic Doctor in my area?

El Paso, Texas

riginal Message-----From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of ladybugsandbeesSent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 7:52 PMiodine Subject: Re: Hello

Welcome Virginia. Your story is not uncommon. I see a few things so let me bullet point them for you.1) Kelp is not a good source of clean iodine. It has been show to be high in arsenic and other toxic halides so you may be doing more harm than good.2) Iodoral & Lugols liquid are not sold at drug stores (well Lugols and be acquired at the pharmacy in rare cases). Iodoral can only be purchase online or through a medical professional. Our resources for it are www.breastcancerchoices.org (12.5 mg tablets) or www.illnessisoptional.com (12.5 and 50 mg tablets). You can read more about this product on www.optimox.com which is the research doctor's (Dr. Abraham) website.3) I personally would not bother telling my Kaiser doctor about taking iodine. Many will belittle you and tell you that it is not necessary that it is in the food and you get enough from salt. Blah, blah, blah. You don't but they haven't taken the time to learn.4) Levothyroxin is a T4 hormone only drug. Your body requires the full spectrum of hormones (T1, T2, T3 and T4 plus calcitonen) to function correctly. Buy supplying one hormone and expecting the body to come up with what it needs you are short circuiting the system. Drugs like Armour, Nature-throid and compounded T3/T4 drugs are better choices and most feel better when on them. Check out www.stopthethyroidmadness.com for more info on natural thyroid hormone replacement (this is rx by the way). I spent 6 years on Synthroid and felt like I was dying. I got on Armour 2 1/2 years ago and feel fabulous. I take 100 mgs of Iodoral as well.What you need is a good holistic doctor. Because you mentioned Kaiser I am guessing you are on the west coast. If you want to share where you live we may be able to suggest a good doc to help you.

[Guest guest]

Thank you

Unfortunately driving to all those areas

would be like driving from El Paso to Los Angeles,

Ca.

TheHermit

Frater Alvarado

http://home.earthlink.net/~thehermit/

Re: Hello

This is the list of good Doc's I

have. Not sure if one is near you - they are from the iodine literate

docs list. You may have to drive a ways. I drive 2 1/2 hours to see

Dr. Brownstein. Worth every mile!

Texas

Hotze, MD - Houston, TX

Hotze Health and Wellness Center

877.698.8698

Maxine , MD

4725 Wellington St.

PO Box 8645

Greenville, TX 75401

903.450.0120

Nellie Grose, MD - Houston, TX

www.tchh.net

713.660.6620

Bessie Owens, DO

9500 Lakeview Parkway Suite 300

Rowlett, Texas 75088

972-613-7700

http://familypractice.us

Ron Manzanero, MD

911 W. Lane #205

Austin, TX 78759

512-343-6223/512-343-0727

www.austinintegrativemedicine.com

Jerry Tennant, MD -

Tennant Institute for Integrative

Medicine

www.jtennantmd.com

5601 N. MacArthur Blvd Suite 200

Irving, TX 75038

972.580.1156

Re: Hello

Welcome

Virginia. Your story is not uncommon. I see a few things so let me

bullet point them for you.

1) Kelp is not a good source of clean iodine. It has been show to be high

in arsenic and other toxic halides so you may be doing more harm than good.

2) Iodoral & Lugols liquid are not sold at drug stores (well Lugols and be

acquired at the pharmacy in rare cases). Iodoral can only be purchase

online or through a medical professional. Our resources for it are

www.breastcancerchoices.org (12.5 mg tablets) or www.illnessisoptional.com

(12.5 and 50 mg tablets). You can read more about this product on

www.optimox.com which is the research doctor's (Dr. Abraham) website.

3) I personally would not bother telling my Kaiser doctor about taking

iodine. Many will belittle you and tell you that it is not necessary that

it is in the food and you get enough from salt. Blah, blah, blah. You

don't but they haven't taken the time to learn.

4) Levothyroxin is a T4 hormone only drug. Your body requires the full

spectrum of hormones (T1, T2, T3 and T4 plus calcitonen) to function

correctly. Buy supplying one hormone and expecting the body to come up with

what it needs you are short circuiting the system. Drugs like Armour,

Nature-throid and compounded T3/T4 drugs are better choices and most feel

better when on them. Check out www.stopthethyroidmadness.com for more info

on natural thyroid hormone replacement (this is rx by the way). I spent 6

years on Synthroid and felt like I was dying. I got on Armour 2 1/2 years

ago and feel fabulous. I take 100 mgs of Iodoral as well.

What you need is a good holistic doctor. Because you mentioned Kaiser I am

guessing you are on the west coast. If you want to share where you live we

may be able to suggest a good doc to help you.

[Guest guest]

Here are more from my Natural Thyroid hormone group:

1)Steve , in Lubbock2)Ron Manzanero in Austin (his NP/PA is taking new patients)3) Sessions in Kirbyville4) Launius in ville (This doc will prescribe Armour and will test the free's, but he seems to have no knowledge of low cortisol and the way it can affect labwork. He also "started" a patient on 3 grains--a no-no--and had no knowledge of multi-dosing. Told a patient to lower her 3 grains because labs were getting high--her cortisol is low. SO GO IN THERE KNOWLEDGEABLE. His fees are cheap, and he and his entire family take Armour)5)this looks promising:http://home.att.net/~drdaveharris/prolotherapy/thyroidcontrover.html, but he doesn't always take new thyroid patients.6)Dr. Elmore in Irving is looking quite good. UPDATE: Dr. Elmore is a keeper, says a patient on 1-07. Prescribes Armour and Cortef. Very laid back, easy going, spends more than enough time in a first appointment!7)Dr. lin and his NP in Austin are both looking good.8)Dr. Bessie Owens, DO, 1645 N. Town East Blvd #132, Mesquite, Texas 75150 972-613-7700Dr. Owens has experienced hypothyroidism and adrenal fatigue herself. She prefers Armour, listens to you, and appreciates your own knowledge. While she does treat Adrenal Fatigue (lists it on her website)...she might not jump right onto the HC bandwagon. She says she has had success raising cortisol levels in alternative ways. Clearly the patient is an active participant in the whole healing/medical process.]9) R. Kare M.D., 1410 W Jefferson, Waxahachie TX 75165, 972-937-1210He will do the testing that you request/require. Prescribes Armour andwill let you dose to your symptoms. He is not rigid in his treatments, listens, appreciates research. He will use homeopathic where he feels it will benefit.

RE: Hello

Do you know of a good holistic Doctor in my area?

El Paso, Texas

riginal Message-----From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of ladybugsandbeesSent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 7:52 PMiodine Subject: Re: Hello

Welcome Virginia. Your story is not uncommon. I see a few things so let me bullet point them for you.1) Kelp is not a good source of clean iodine. It has been show to be high in arsenic and other toxic halides so you may be doing more harm than good.2) Iodoral & Lugols liquid are not sold at drug stores (well Lugols and be acquired at the pharmacy in rare cases). Iodoral can only be purchase online or through a medical professional. Our resources for it are www.breastcancerchoices.org (12.5 mg tablets) or www.illnessisoptional.com (12.5 and 50 mg tablets). You can read more about this product on www.optimox.com which is the research doctor's (Dr. Abraham) website.3) I personally would not bother telling my Kaiser doctor about taking iodine. Many will belittle you and tell you that it is not necessary that it is in the food and you get enough from salt. Blah, blah, blah. You don't but they haven't taken the time to learn.4) Levothyroxin is a T4 hormone only drug. Your body requires the full spectrum of hormones (T1, T2, T3 and T4 plus calcitonen) to function correctly. Buy supplying one hormone and expecting the body to come up with what it needs you are short circuiting the system. Drugs like Armour, Nature-throid and compounded T3/T4 drugs are better choices and most feel better when on them. Check out www.stopthethyroidmadness.com for more info on natural thyroid hormone replacement (this is rx by the way). I spent 6 years on Synthroid and felt like I was dying. I got on Armour 2 1/2 years ago and feel fabulous. I take 100 mgs of Iodoral as well.What you need is a good holistic doctor. Because you mentioned Kaiser I am guessing you are on the west coast. If you want to share where you live we may be able to suggest a good doc to help you.

[Guest guest]

How far is Tempe AZ from you?

Carpenter, NMD2165 E Warner RdTempe, Arizona 85284480.831.5370

RE: Hello

Do you know of a good holistic Doctor in my area?

El Paso, Texas

riginal Message-----From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of ladybugsandbeesSent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 7:52 PMiodine Subject: Re: Hello

Welcome Virginia. Your story is not uncommon. I see a few things so let me bullet point them for you.1) Kelp is not a good source of clean iodine. It has been show to be high in arsenic and other toxic halides so you may be doing more harm than good.2) Iodoral & Lugols liquid are not sold at drug stores (well Lugols and be acquired at the pharmacy in rare cases). Iodoral can only be purchase online or through a medical professional. Our resources for it are www.breastcancerchoices.org (12.5 mg tablets) or www.illnessisoptional.com (12.5 and 50 mg tablets). You can read more about this product on www.optimox.com which is the research doctor's (Dr. Abraham) website.3) I personally would not bother telling my Kaiser doctor about taking iodine. Many will belittle you and tell you that it is not necessary that it is in the food and you get enough from salt. Blah, blah, blah. You don't but they haven't taken the time to learn.4) Levothyroxin is a T4 hormone only drug. Your body requires the full spectrum of hormones (T1, T2, T3 and T4 plus calcitonen) to function correctly. Buy supplying one hormone and expecting the body to come up with what it needs you are short circuiting the system. Drugs like Armour, Nature-throid and compounded T3/T4 drugs are better choices and most feel better when on them. Check out www.stopthethyroidmadness.com for more info on natural thyroid hormone replacement (this is rx by the way). I spent 6 years on Synthroid and felt like I was dying. I got on Armour 2 1/2 years ago and feel fabulous. I take 100 mgs of Iodoral as well.What you need is a good holistic doctor. Because you mentioned Kaiser I am guessing you are on the west coast. If you want to share where you live we may be able to suggest a good doc to help you.

[Guest guest]

Do you live in MI ? Dr Brownstein is about an hour from me

but he isn't taking new patients. I called last year and was told

this. My current Dr I found when I was sick and suspected Lyme or

hormone imbalance. She is holistic, but poo poos Iodine. I will get

no help from her in that area.

/MI

>

> This is the list of good Doc's I have. Not sure if one is near

you - they are from the iodine literate docs list. You may have to

drive a ways. I drive 2 1/2 hours to see Dr. Brownstein. Worth

every mile!

>

> Texas

> Hotze, MD - Houston, TX

> Hotze Health and Wellness Center

> 877.698.8698

>

> Maxine , MD

> 4725 Wellington St.

> PO Box 8645

> Greenville, TX 75401

> 903.450.0120

>

> Nellie Grose, MD - Houston, TX

> www.tchh.net

> 713.660.6620

>

> Bessie Owens, DO

> 9500 Lakeview Parkway Suite 300

> Rowlett, Texas 75088

> 972-613-7700

> http://familypractice.us

>

> Ron Manzanero, MD

> 911 W. Lane #205

> Austin, TX 78759

> 512-343-6223/512-343-0727

> www.austinintegrativemedicine.com

>

> Jerry Tennant, MD -

> Tennant Institute for Integrative Medicine

> www.jtennantmd.com

> 5601 N. MacArthur Blvd Suite 200

> Irving, TX 75038

> 972.580.1156

> Re: Hello

>

>

>

> Welcome Virginia. Your story is not uncommon. I see a few things

so let me

> bullet point them for you.

>

> 1) Kelp is not a good source of clean iodine. It has been show to

be high

> in arsenic and other toxic halides so you may be doing more harm

than good.

>

> 2) Iodoral & Lugols liquid are not sold at drug stores (well

Lugols and be

> acquired at the pharmacy in rare cases). Iodoral can only be

purchase

> online or through a medical professional. Our resources for it

are

> www.breastcancerchoices.org (12.5 mg tablets) or

www.illnessisoptional.com

> (12.5 and 50 mg tablets). You can read more about this product on

> www.optimox.com which is the research doctor's (Dr. Abraham)

website.

>

> 3) I personally would not bother telling my Kaiser doctor about

taking

> iodine. Many will belittle you and tell you that it is not

necessary that

> it is in the food and you get enough from salt. Blah, blah, blah.

You

> don't but they haven't taken the time to learn.

>

> 4) Levothyroxin is a T4 hormone only drug. Your body requires the

full

> spectrum of hormones (T1, T2, T3 and T4 plus calcitonen) to

function

> correctly. Buy supplying one hormone and expecting the body to

come up with

> what it needs you are short circuiting the system. Drugs like

Armour,

> Nature-throid and compounded T3/T4 drugs are better choices and

most feel

> better when on them. Check out www.stopthethyroidmadness.com for

more info

> on natural thyroid hormone replacement (this is rx by the way). I

spent 6

> years on Synthroid and felt like I was dying. I got on Armour 2

1/2 years

> ago and feel fabulous. I take 100 mgs of Iodoral as well.

>

> What you need is a good holistic doctor. Because you mentioned

Kaiser I am

> guessing you are on the west coast. If you want to share where

you live we

> may be able to suggest a good doc to help you.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi All,

has any one tried the following iodine?

http://www.arrowheadhealthworks.com/iodine.html

Dinesh.

--- ladybugsandbees

<ladybugsandbees@...> wrote:

> Welcome Virginia. Your story is not uncommon.

> I see a few things so let me

> bullet point them for you.

>

> 1) Kelp is not a good source of clean iodine.

> It has been show to be high

> in arsenic and other toxic halides so you may

> be doing more harm than good.

>

> 2) Iodoral & Lugols liquid are not sold at

> drug stores (well Lugols and be

> acquired at the pharmacy in rare cases).

> Iodoral can only be purchase

> online or through a medical professional. Our

> resources for it are

> www.breastcancerchoices.org (12.5 mg tablets)

> or www.illnessisoptional.com

> (12.5 and 50 mg tablets). You can read more

> about this product on

> www.optimox.com which is the research doctor's

> (Dr. Abraham) website.

>

> 3) I personally would not bother telling my

> Kaiser doctor about taking

> iodine. Many will belittle you and tell you

> that it is not necessary that

> it is in the food and you get enough from salt.

> Blah, blah, blah. You

> don't but they haven't taken the time to learn.

>

> 4) Levothyroxin is a T4 hormone only drug.

> Your body requires the full

> spectrum of hormones (T1, T2, T3 and T4 plus

> calcitonen) to function

> correctly. Buy supplying one hormone and

> expecting the body to come up with

> what it needs you are short circuiting the

> system. Drugs like Armour,

> Nature-throid and compounded T3/T4 drugs are

> better choices and most feel

> better when on them. Check out

> www.stopthethyroidmadness.com for more info

> on natural thyroid hormone replacement (this is

> rx by the way). I spent 6

> years on Synthroid and felt like I was dying.

> I got on Armour 2 1/2 years

> ago and feel fabulous. I take 100 mgs of

> Iodoral as well.

>

> What you need is a good holistic doctor.

> Because you mentioned Kaiser I am

> guessing you are on the west coast. If you

> want to share where you live we

> may be able to suggest a good doc to help you.

>

>

> Hello

>

>

> > Hello,

> >

> > I have been reading all the information on

> this board for months now,

> > but I have

> > never written before, so I am, what you might

> consider, new to everyone.

> > I am really

> > interested in getting started on a regimen of

> iodine. Right now, I am

> > using some liquid kelp

> > that I got at my health food store. It says

> use 3-4 drops, but I am

> > using 7 drops. I have a feeling

> > that I am not anywhere near what I should be

> doing. I think I am just

> > trying to use it up

> > so I can actually start the Lugols or

> Ioridol. I have called around to

> > Rite-Aid and Long's Drugs

> > in my town, but they don't carry any Iodine

> supplements at all. The

> > Long's woman told me to

> > make sure and let my Kaiser Dr. now what I am

> doing. Should I?

> > Do you know any drug co.s that might carry

> this?

> > Also, I am so greatful for your group and

> the knowledge I have read

> > here. And congratulation

> > on 2000 members. It just shows that there

> are so many more members than

> > meets the eye.

> > By the way, my problem is a low thyroid and I

> am on Levothroxin...

> > Please help me to feel better. I know life

> has got to be better. Does

> > depression get better with

> > Iodine therapy?

> >

> > Virginia in California

> >

> > =====================

> > Posted through Grouply, the better way

> > to access your like this one.

> > http://www.grouply.com/?code=post

> >

> >

> >

> > type_D

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

426 mules or 6 hours.

I would have to think about it

Thank you most kindly for your input, New Mexico would be closer

A.

..

Re: Hello

How far is Tempe AZ from you?

Carpenter, NMD

2165 E Warner Rd

Tempe, Arizona 85284

480.831.5370

Re: Hello

Welcome

Virginia. Your story is not uncommon. I see a few things so let me

bullet point them for you.

1) Kelp is not a good source of clean iodine. It has been show to be high

in arsenic and other toxic halides so you may be doing more harm than good.

2) Iodoral & Lugols liquid are not sold at drug stores (well Lugols and be

acquired at the pharmacy in rare cases). Iodoral can only be purchase

online or through a medical professional. Our resources for it are

www.breastcancerchoices.org (12.5 mg tablets) or www.illnessisoptional.com

(12.5 and 50 mg tablets). You can read more about this product on

www.optimox.com which is the research doctor's (Dr. Abraham) website.

3) I personally would not bother telling my Kaiser doctor about taking

iodine. Many will belittle you and tell you that it is not necessary that

it is in the food and you get enough from salt. Blah, blah, blah. You

don't but they haven't taken the time to learn.

4) Levothyroxin is a T4 hormone only drug. Your body requires the full

spectrum of hormones (T1, T2, T3 and T4 plus calcitonen) to function

correctly. Buy supplying one hormone and expecting the body to come up with

what it needs you are short circuiting the system. Drugs like Armour,

Nature-throid and compounded T3/T4 drugs are better choices and most feel

better when on them. Check out www.stopthethyroidmadness.com for more info

on natural thyroid hormone replacement (this is rx by the way). I spent 6

years on Synthroid and felt like I was dying. I got on Armour 2 1/2 years

ago and feel fabulous. I take 100 mgs of Iodoral as well.

What you need is a good holistic doctor. Because you mentioned Kaiser I am

guessing you are on the west coast. If you want to share where you live we

may be able to suggest a good doc to help you.

[Guest guest]

Yes I live in the Grand Rapids area. I don't think Dr. Brownstein will be

taking new patients for a long time. He is expanding his interests into

other things like writing books and newsletters. He is trying to balance

his life. Unfortunately many need him but I understand what he is doing.

He can't burn himself out either. Dr. Ng in his practice does iodine and

is as good as Dr. B at it.

Re: Hello

>>

>>

>>

>> Welcome Virginia. Your story is not uncommon. I see a few things

> so let me

>> bullet point them for you.

>>

>> 1) Kelp is not a good source of clean iodine. It has been show to

> be high

>> in arsenic and other toxic halides so you may be doing more harm

> than good.

>>

>> 2) Iodoral & Lugols liquid are not sold at drug stores (well

> Lugols and be

>> acquired at the pharmacy in rare cases). Iodoral can only be

> purchase

>> online or through a medical professional. Our resources for it

> are

>> www.breastcancerchoices.org (12.5 mg tablets) or

> www.illnessisoptional.com

>> (12.5 and 50 mg tablets). You can read more about this product on

>> www.optimox.com which is the research doctor's (Dr. Abraham)

> website.

>>

>> 3) I personally would not bother telling my Kaiser doctor about

> taking

>> iodine. Many will belittle you and tell you that it is not

> necessary that

>> it is in the food and you get enough from salt. Blah, blah, blah.

> You

>> don't but they haven't taken the time to learn.

>>

>> 4) Levothyroxin is a T4 hormone only drug. Your body requires the

> full

>> spectrum of hormones (T1, T2, T3 and T4 plus calcitonen) to

> function

>> correctly. Buy supplying one hormone and expecting the body to

> come up with

>> what it needs you are short circuiting the system. Drugs like

> Armour,

>> Nature-throid and compounded T3/T4 drugs are better choices and

> most feel

>> better when on them. Check out www.stopthethyroidmadness.com for

> more info

>> on natural thyroid hormone replacement (this is rx by the way). I

> spent 6

>> years on Synthroid and felt like I was dying. I got on Armour 2

> 1/2 years

>> ago and feel fabulous. I take 100 mgs of Iodoral as well.

>>

>> What you need is a good holistic doctor. Because you mentioned

> Kaiser I am

>> guessing you are on the west coast. If you want to share where

> you live we

>> may be able to suggest a good doc to help you.

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes I saw that but have absolutely no resources there.

Steph

RE: Hello

Do you know of a good holistic Doctor in my area?

El Paso, Texas

riginal Message-----From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of ladybugsandbeesSent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 7:52 PMiodine Subject: Re: Hello

Welcome Virginia. Your story is not uncommon. I see a few things so let me bullet point them for you.1) Kelp is not a good source of clean iodine. It has been show to be high in arsenic and other toxic halides so you may be doing more harm than good.2) Iodoral & Lugols liquid are not sold at drug stores (well Lugols and be acquired at the pharmacy in rare cases). Iodoral can only be purchase online or through a medical professional. Our resources for it are www.breastcancerchoices.org (12.5 mg tablets) or www.illnessisoptional.com (12.5 and 50 mg tablets). You can read more about this product on www.optimox.com which is the research doctor's (Dr. Abraham) website.3) I personally would not bother telling my Kaiser doctor about taking iodine. Many will belittle you and tell you that it is not necessary that it is in the food and you get enough from salt. Blah, blah, blah. You don't but they haven't taken the time to learn.4) Levothyroxin is a T4 hormone only drug. Your body requires the full spectrum of hormones (T1, T2, T3 and T4 plus calcitonen) to function correctly. Buy supplying one hormone and expecting the body to come up with what it needs you are short circuiting the system. Drugs like Armour, Nature-throid and compounded T3/T4 drugs are better choices and most feel better when on them. Check out www.stopthethyroidmadness.com for more info on natural thyroid hormone replacement (this is rx by the way). I spent 6 years on Synthroid and felt like I was dying. I got on Armour 2 1/2 years ago and feel fabulous. I take 100 mgs of Iodoral as well.What you need is a good holistic doctor. Because you mentioned Kaiser I am guessing you are on the west coast. If you want to share where you live we may be able to suggest a good doc to help you.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Virginia here again...I'm still trying to figure the format in which

I answer and compose on here. Bear with me.

Thank you for your response to my email. I am living in Livermore,

California. It is in the East Bay Area. I am close to Pleasanton,

Walnut Creek, Danville, Lafayette, . I hope that gives you

something to work with. isn't considered East Bay, but it is

the next town over going East toward Stockton and Sacramento. Thank

you.

Also my computer at home is down right now, so I can only check with

you briefly at work. Hopefully, I will have it back in a week or

so. Yucky Viruses. So, if you don't hear from me right away, that's

why.

Virginia from California

>

> Welcome Virginia. Your story is not uncommon. I see a few things

so let me

> bullet point them for you.

>

> 1) Kelp is not a good source of clean iodine. It has been show to

be high

> in arsenic and other toxic halides so you may be doing more harm

than good.

>

> 2) Iodoral & Lugols liquid are not sold at drug stores (well

Lugols and be

> acquired at the pharmacy in rare cases). Iodoral can only be

purchase

> online or through a medical professional. Our resources for it are

> www.breastcancerchoices.org (12.5 mg tablets) or

www.illnessisoptional.com

> (12.5 and 50 mg tablets). You can read more about this product on

> www.optimox.com which is the research doctor's (Dr. Abraham)

website.

>

> 3) I personally would not bother telling my Kaiser doctor about

taking

> iodine. Many will belittle you and tell you that it is not

necessary that

> it is in the food and you get enough from salt. Blah, blah, blah.

You

> don't but they haven't taken the time to learn.

>

> 4) Levothyroxin is a T4 hormone only drug. Your body requires the

full

> spectrum of hormones (T1, T2, T3 and T4 plus calcitonen) to

function

> correctly. Buy supplying one hormone and expecting the body to

come up with

> what it needs you are short circuiting the system. Drugs like

Armour,

> Nature-throid and compounded T3/T4 drugs are better choices and

most feel

> better when on them. Check out www.stopthethyroidmadness.com for

more info

> on natural thyroid hormone replacement (this is rx by the way). I

spent 6

> years on Synthroid and felt like I was dying. I got on Armour 2

1/2 years

> ago and feel fabulous. I take 100 mgs of Iodoral as well.

>

> What you need is a good holistic doctor. Because you mentioned

Kaiser I am

> guessing you are on the west coast. If you want to share where you

live we

> may be able to suggest a good doc to help you.

>

>

> Hello

>

>

> > Hello,

> >

> > I have been reading all the information on this board for months

now,

> > but I have

> > never written before, so I am, what you might consider, new to

everyone.

> > I am really

> > interested in getting started on a regimen of iodine. Right now,

I am

> > using some liquid kelp

> > that I got at my health food store. It says use 3-4 drops, but I

am

> > using 7 drops. I have a feeling

> > that I am not anywhere near what I should be doing. I think I am

just

> > trying to use it up

> > so I can actually start the Lugols or Ioridol. I have called

around to

> > Rite-Aid and Long's Drugs

> > in my town, but they don't carry any Iodine supplements at all.

The

> > Long's woman told me to

> > make sure and let my Kaiser Dr. now what I am doing. Should I?

> > Do you know any drug co.s that might carry this?

> > Also, I am so greatful for your group and the knowledge I have

read

> > here. And congratulation

> > on 2000 members. It just shows that there are so many more

members than

> > meets the eye.

> > By the way, my problem is a low thyroid and I am on Levothroxin...

> > Please help me to feel better. I know life has got to be

better. Does

> > depression get better with

> > Iodine therapy?

> >

> > Virginia in California

> >

> > =====================

> > Posted through Grouply, the better way

> > to access your like this one.

> > http://www.grouply.com/?code=post

> >

> >

> >

> > type_D

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Well it's good to know that Dr Ng is good. I may re-think trying again

with him.

I have two or three Drs closer to me to check out as well. Thank you!

/MI

Yes I live in the Grand Rapids area. I don't think Dr. Brownstein will be

taking new patients for a long time. He is expanding his interests into

other things like writing books and newsletters. He is trying to balance

his life. Unfortunately many need him but I understand what he is doing.

He can't burn himself out either. Dr. Ng in his practice does iodine and

is as good as Dr. B at it.

Re: Hello

>>

>>

>>

>> Welcome Virginia. Your story is not uncommon. I see a few things

> so let me

>> bullet point them for you.

>>

>> 1) Kelp is not a good source of clean iodine. It has been show to

> be high

>> in arsenic and other toxic halides so you may be doing more harm

> than good.

>>

>> 2) Iodoral & Lugols liquid are not sold at drug stores (well

> Lugols and be

>> acquired at the pharmacy in rare cases). Iodoral can only be

> purchase

>> online or through a medical professional. Our resources for it

> are

>> www.breastcancerchoices.org (12.5 mg tablets) or

> www.illnessisoptional.com

>> (12.5 and 50 mg tablets). You can read more about this product on

>> www.optimox.com which is the research doctor's (Dr. Abraham)

> website.

>>

>> 3) I personally would not bother telling my Kaiser doctor about

> taking

>> iodine. Many will belittle you and tell you that it is not

> necessary that

>> it is in the food and you get enough from salt. Blah, blah, blah.

> You

>> don't but they haven't taken the time to learn.

>>

>> 4) Levothyroxin is a T4 hormone only drug. Your body requires the

> full

>> spectrum of hormones (T1, T2, T3 and T4 plus calcitonen) to

> function

>> correctly. Buy supplying one hormone and expecting the body to

> come up with

>> what it needs you are short circuiting the system. Drugs like

> Armour,

>> Nature-throid and compounded T3/T4 drugs are better choices and

> most feel

>> better when on them. Check out www.stopthethyroidmadness.com for

> more info

>> on natural thyroid hormone replacement (this is rx by the way). I

> spent 6

>> years on Synthroid and felt like I was dying. I got on Armour 2

> 1/2 years

>> ago and feel fabulous. I take 100 mgs of Iodoral as well.

>>

>> What you need is a good holistic doctor. Because you mentioned

> Kaiser I am

>> guessing you are on the west coast. If you want to share where

> you live we

>> may be able to suggest a good doc to help you.

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You are welcome. I don't mind the drive. I do it 3 or 4 times a year.

Steph

Re: Re: Hello

> Well it's good to know that Dr Ng is good. I may re-think trying again

> with him.

> I have two or three Drs closer to me to check out as well. Thank you!

>

> /MI

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

Welcome to the group. Good luck with the doctors. We're here for ya.

Dave

From: donjour6961 <dblair6@...>Subject: Hellocholesteatoma Date: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 3:08 AM

My name is and I was diagnosed with a cholesteotoma in my left year back when I was in 1990. I eventually had surgery in 2002. I was fine until a few months ago and now I wake up in the middle of some nights because of pain in my ear. I have ben suffering from vertigo a lot these days. I was finally able to make it to the doctor and I am now waiting for a referral to the ear doctor as well as a hearing test. I look forward to learning something from each of you in this group.

[Guest guest]

Hello my fellow cholesteatoma sufferers. Just wanted to throw this out there, if you have a myspace, you can also joint a support group on there. Just go to More and then Groups and type in the search Cholesteatoma and join group!> cholesteatoma > From: dblair6@...> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 03:08:02 +0000> Subject: Hello> > My name is and I was diagnosed with a cholesteotoma in my left > year back when I was in 1990. I eventually had surgery in 2002. I was > fine until a few months ago and now I wake up in the middle of some > nights because of pain in my ear. I have ben suffering from vertigo a > lot these days. I was finally able to make it to the doctor and I am > now waiting for a referral to the ear doctor as well as a hearing test. > I look forward to learning something from each of you in this group.> > > ------------------------------------> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info . I do appreciate it.

Dave

From: ph <faithfuljsj778@...>Subject: RE: Hellocholesteatoma Date: Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 4:21 AM

Hello my fellow cholesteatoma sufferers. Just wanted to throw this out there, if you have a myspace, you can also joint a support group on there. Just go to More and then Groups and type in the search Cholesteatoma and join group!> cholesteatoma> From: dblair6triad (DOT) rr.com> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 03:08:02 +0000> Subject: Hello> > My name is and I was diagnosed with a cholesteotoma in my left > year back when I was in 1990. I eventually had surgery in 2002. I was > fine until a few months ago and now I wake up in the middle of some > nights because of pain in my ear. I have ben suffering from vertigo a > lot these days. I was finally able to make it to the doctor and I am > now waiting for a referral to the ear doctor as well as a hearing test. > I look forward to learning something from each of you in this

group.> > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> >

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the group ...this is a great group of people who are compassionate and have wonderful ideas for us. I fairly new here and am grateful that I found such a group because of alot can attest to, I've had alot of questions of my own, which has been answered with no problem.

Take care of yourself. Soft hugs sent your way.

From: <avalon@...>Subject: Hellodominie Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 12:25 AM

Hello everyone,

I'm new to the group and thought I'd pop in and introduce myself. My name is and I live in Canada. I was diagnosed with Fibromyalgia, Chronic Fatigue, and Myofacial pain in 2004 after many years of suffering.

I believe I've always had FM but it didn't come out in its present form until a car accident I had in 1998.

Lots of pain, lots of depression and anxiety, and lots of fatigue sums it all up.

I'm just coming out of a bad flare that started the beginning of October. The pain is just beginning to become manageable again. Yay.

The car accident also damaged my neck so I have major pain in my upper back, neck, shoulders, and head when the flares hit.

Thankfully I have an awesome family who tries their darnest to understand what I go through. My mom suffers from FM as well and was diagnosed a few months after I was. And I've met some really GREAT people on support groups I've found throughout the years.

I just did all the polls here in the group and found them very interesting.

Gentle hugs to all,

[Guest guest]

I have had no luck with applying coconut oil to my psoriasis. I eat

huge quantities of coconut oil dily which is good for my health, but

it hasn't seemed to help psoriasis. My psoriasis responds much better

using tub soaks in epsom salts or gently wiping epsom salt solution on

the psoriasis daily, before bed.

Alobar

On 11/15/08, jovyz <jovyz@...> wrote:

> Hello to all. Has anyone had experience with VCO to combat or mitigate

> mild psoriasis?

> Thanks much .

[Guest guest]

> >

> > You could also try adding ACV (1 cup) to a bath with the epsom

> salts.

> > This is an alkalzing bath that will pull toxins out of your

body.

> ACV

> > is very good for skin conditions and most people see excellent

> results

> > with it. I would also try ingesting 1-2 tblsns per day as well.

> The

> > ACV acts like a conditioner and will leave your skin feeling

moist

> and

> > supple. I regularly have alkalizing baths using 1 cup epsom

salt,

> 1

> > cup of hydrogen peroxide and 1 cup ACV or 1 cup baking soda

instead

> of

> > the ACV...but the AVC is much better for skin conditions.

> > Whatever alkalizing bath you use though, it's important that you

> have a

> > quick cool rinse down after which really refreshes you.

> >

> > Ellen:)

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Just curious...have you tried tea tree oil on the psoriasis? I haven¹t and

my mom hasn¹t¹, but I just recommended to her she might try that this week

and see what happens. I had given my parents some tea tree oil for a

different purpose and thought of that.

I know it is great and fast for other skin things, so that is what made me

think of it.

Chantelle

On 11/15/08 1:57 PM, " Alobar " <Alobar@...> wrote:

>

>

>

> I have had no luck with applying coconut oil to my psoriasis. I eat

> huge quantities of coconut oil dily which is good for my health, but

> it hasn't seemed to help psoriasis. My psoriasis responds much better

> using tub soaks in epsom salts or gently wiping epsom salt solution on

> the psoriasis daily, before bed.

>

> Alobar

>

> On 11/15/08, jovyz <jovyz@... <mailto:jovyz%40> > wrote:

>> > Hello to all. Has anyone had experience with VCO to combat or mitigate

>> > mild psoriasis?

> Thanks much .

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Welcome! I am from Fairhope, Alabama and had my Nucleus Freedom CI surgery

in September 2006 in Birmingham at St. 's Hospital. Dr. Grayson

Rodgers was my surgeon. What type of law do you practice? I work in the

legal field myself.

I love my CI and have had very good success with it.

Lynn

Fairhope, AL

Nucleus Freedom

Surgery date 9/6/06

Activation date 9/27/06

Hello

Hi Alice, thanks for the note and this looks like a grea list. I am a 47

year old lawyer in Birmingham, Alabama who was diagnosed with AIED. Over

the course of years, it has progressively worsened my hearing to the point

where I am about to undergo CI surgery. I should know the date in the

coming days and it will be at the Shea Clinic in Memphis.

I have worn hearing aids for only a few months and the deterioration was

that quick, although I had some hearing problems going back 25 years or so.

We are just waiting on a decision by the major medical carrier, Blue Cross,

regarding either bilateral surgery or unilateral, followed by one more.

I'll need the CIs on both sides. If anyone has any suggestion about doing

both at one time vs. one and then the other, I would be grateful.

This is a new world for me and its comforting to know such a group.

Thanks and have a good week. Warmest thoughts

Pugh

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Your post really caught my eye. I started having trouble with my

hearing in about July of 2006. I was diagnosed with AIED in November

of 2006. Had perfect hearing before that. By mid January, I was

completely deaf in both ears. And when I say deaf, I mean deaf. I

could hear absolutely nothing. It was terrifying, to say the least.

I am a court reporter and my hearing is basically my life. It was

THE worst time in my life. I fell into a deep depression because I

was so overwhelmed and so distraught and had no idea what I was going

to do from here. The isolation and loneliness I felt was just

indescribable. I felt so disconnected to the world. From having

perfect hearing to complete silence in a matter of months, it was

just devastating.

BUT fast forward to today. I had simultaneous bilateral CI surgery

on August 21st of last year, and was activated on September 12th.

One of the greatest days in my life! I went from not even knowing

what a cochlear implant WAS, to getting two at the same time! For

the first few weeks, things sounded very strange to me. Everyone

sounded like munchkins from the Wizard of Oz. But over the next few

months, things started sounding how I remembered them. I can't even

TELL you how excited I was! I call it a miracle. I really do.

Well, just to let you know how fabulous these things work, I am now

back to work as a court reporter! YES, a court reporter! The people

who have to take down the testimony verbatim in court! So that right

there tells you how well I'm hearing! It's just unbelevable how

great these things work!

Soooooo...the point to my whole post is, get your CI surgery! And

get two at the same time if you can! My hearing went just like

yours, pretty much the same in both ears, and pretty quickly. BUT

there is hope! And you're going to be okay. If I can answer any

questions for you or help you in any way, please let me know.

>

> Hi Alice, thanks for the note and this looks like a grea list. I

am a 47

> year old lawyer in Birmingham, Alabama who was diagnosed with

AIED. Over

> the course of years, it has progressively worsened my hearing to

the point

> where I am about to undergo CI surgery. I should know the date in

the

> coming days and it will be at the Shea Clinic in Memphis.

>

> I have worn hearing aids for only a few months and the

deterioration was

> that quick, although I had some hearing problems going back 25

years or

> so. We are just waiting on a decision by the major medical

carrier, Blue

> Cross, regarding either bilateral surgery or unilateral, followed

by one

> more. I'll need the CIs on both sides. If anyone has any

suggestion about

> doing both at one time vs. one and then the other, I would be

grateful.

> This is a new world for me and its comforting to know such a group.

>

> Thanks and have a good week. Warmest thoughts

>

>

> Pugh

>

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[Guest guest]

Welcome to the group, .

If you have only recently lost your hearing, all of a sudden, you will

probably get excellent results with the CI or CI's.

There are lots of people here with one CI and quite a number now, with

two. Some here have had CI's for 20 years and have been through the

whole history of their respective manufacturer. If they are with

Cochlear, their processors would have been upgraded over the years, so

that they too, can enjoy the newest technology.

Ted F.

>

> Hi Alice, thanks for the note and this looks like a grea list. I am

a 47

> year old lawyer in Birmingham, Alabama who was diagnosed with AIED.

Over

> the course of years, it has progressively worsened my hearing to

the point

> where I am about to undergo CI surgery. I should know the date in the

> coming days and it will be at the Shea Clinic in Memphis.

>

> I have worn hearing aids for only a few months and the

deterioration was

> that quick, although I had some hearing problems going back 25 years or

> so. We are just waiting on a decision by the major medical

carrier, Blue

> Cross, regarding either bilateral surgery or unilateral, followed

by one

> more. I'll need the CIs on both sides. If anyone has any

suggestion about

> doing both at one time vs. one and then the other, I would be grateful.

> This is a new world for me and its comforting to know such a group.

>

> Thanks and have a good week. Warmest thoughts

>

>

> Pugh

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Lynn, thanks so much for the note and good to hear from you. I am with a

firm that has several offices in the southeast and I practice mainly

workers' compensation defense and Medicare law. Its the firm of Carr, ,

Pugh, etc. I am in Vestavia. Thanks for the update on your new CI and I am so

ready to have this surgery done. I chose the Shea Clinic since I was treated

there a couple of times in the past and had a good relationship with the

doctor. I know of Dr. Grayson and he has a wonderful reputation. I think the

other doctor in town that does this procedure is Dr. Pappas.

Did you do your rehab in Birmingham? I assume you only have one CI now, but

I plan to try to do both at one time so to avoid a second surgery. I'll

keep you posted and should know today or tomorrow the exact date of the

procedure. Wising you a good week and warmest thoughts,

Ben

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[Guest guest]

, thanks so much for the post and the good information. As a court

reporter, you know all about having to hear to be able to work. I do trial

work

myself and have had the same emotional upheavel you experienced. Your words

of encouragement are so uplifting, especially as I sit here waiting on a call

from the surgeon. I want to get them both done at the same time, too. It

would mean one less surgery and recover, plus I'll be back to the routine

faster. I was like you, very funtional until just recently and then the bottom

fell out. Same thing here about the CIs, I didn't know what it was (other

than Whitestone had one) to now facing bilateral surgery in a matter of

6 months or less. Thanks again and please keep me posted on your progress;

I'll do the same. Take care and have a good day.

Ben

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