Re: Irish Association of Suicidology warning

[Guest guest]

I agree, Jim.

But how would they explain kids like my son and many others I've read about

who were actually very gifted academically, very popular socially and often

gifted athletes? The " golden " kids? We recently lost one such young lady in

Arkansas - 18 years old, beautiful, popular, captain of the national

championship high school cheerleading team, and from a wealth, prominent family

- who died as a result of a high speed auto accident. The toxicology reports

showed a 2.87 alcohol level and a trace of cocaine in her system. Her family

immediately pled for privacy and asked that the topic be dropped from the media,

which it was. My suspicion is that she was on an antidepressant (for no good

reason - probably had " anxiety attacks " or severe mood swings like B.J.) - hence

the ability and desire to drink copious amounts of alcohol and engage in

dangerous behavior. We'll never know and she won't show up as an antidepressant

death or suicide - but other than suicide, why would anyone drive

in excess of 100 mph on a curvy, dark road while totally blitzed?

Her death is another sign of how so many parents don't know how to help their

kids when they start losing it. I know we felt like we had to do something to

help B.J. or we would never have recommended that he go to a shrink in the first

place.

We have to figure out WHAT IS ACTUALLY WRONG WITH OUR KIDS so we can quit

turning to these quacks for answers. I can't figure it out...was it the double

round of corticosteroids B.J. took in February 2003 (the same time he started

" losing it " )? Was it the immunizations (he always had bad reactions to his

shots - fever, " scarletina fever, " diarrhea, vomitting, etc.)? Was it an

undiagnosed insulin problem (he would literally pass out if he didn't eat every

3-4 hrs, had migraines, a ridiculuously voracious appetite, and an extremely

high metabolism)? Was it all of the above? What was(were) the problem(s)?

I know now why B.J. killed himself - unbearable side effects caused by Effexor

XR. That mystery has been solved. But the other questions still haunt me.

Constantly..haunt me.

Terry

Jim <mofunnow@...> wrote:

It wouldn't be the drugs or the mercury now would it? Jim

Home news

Suicidal kids alert

87 words

9 December 2005

The Sun

Eire 23

English

© 2005 News Group Newspapers. All rights reserved

TRUANCY, poor schoolwork and aggression in some kids are signs they may

commit suicide, teachers were warned yesterday.

The Irish Association of Suicidology urged schools to look out for kids at

risk.

Association president Prof Fitzgerald said teens suffering from

attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and Asperger's Syndrome were

more prone to taking their own lives.

ADHD sufferers have poor concentration and are impulsive while those with

Asperger's are often loners with few social skills.

© The Sun, 2005

[Guest guest]

I agree, Jim.

But how would they explain kids like my son and many others I've read about

who were actually very gifted academically, very popular socially and often

gifted athletes? The " golden " kids? We recently lost one such young lady in

Arkansas - 18 years old, beautiful, popular, captain of the national

championship high school cheerleading team, and from a wealth, prominent family

- who died as a result of a high speed auto accident. The toxicology reports

showed a 2.87 alcohol level and a trace of cocaine in her system. Her family

immediately pled for privacy and asked that the topic be dropped from the media,

which it was. My suspicion is that she was on an antidepressant (for no good

reason - probably had " anxiety attacks " or severe mood swings like B.J.) - hence

the ability and desire to drink copious amounts of alcohol and engage in

dangerous behavior. We'll never know and she won't show up as an antidepressant

death or suicide - but other than suicide, why would anyone drive

in excess of 100 mph on a curvy, dark road while totally blitzed?

Her death is another sign of how so many parents don't know how to help their

kids when they start losing it. I know we felt like we had to do something to

help B.J. or we would never have recommended that he go to a shrink in the first

place.

We have to figure out WHAT IS ACTUALLY WRONG WITH OUR KIDS so we can quit

turning to these quacks for answers. I can't figure it out...was it the double

round of corticosteroids B.J. took in February 2003 (the same time he started

" losing it " )? Was it the immunizations (he always had bad reactions to his

shots - fever, " scarletina fever, " diarrhea, vomitting, etc.)? Was it an

undiagnosed insulin problem (he would literally pass out if he didn't eat every

3-4 hrs, had migraines, a ridiculuously voracious appetite, and an extremely

high metabolism)? Was it all of the above? What was(were) the problem(s)?

I know now why B.J. killed himself - unbearable side effects caused by Effexor

XR. That mystery has been solved. But the other questions still haunt me.

Constantly..haunt me.

Terry

Jim <mofunnow@...> wrote:

It wouldn't be the drugs or the mercury now would it? Jim

Home news

Suicidal kids alert

87 words

9 December 2005

The Sun

Eire 23

English

© 2005 News Group Newspapers. All rights reserved

TRUANCY, poor schoolwork and aggression in some kids are signs they may

commit suicide, teachers were warned yesterday.

The Irish Association of Suicidology urged schools to look out for kids at

risk.

Association president Prof Fitzgerald said teens suffering from

attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and Asperger's Syndrome were

more prone to taking their own lives.

ADHD sufferers have poor concentration and are impulsive while those with

Asperger's are often loners with few social skills.

© The Sun, 2005

[Guest guest]

I agree, Jim.

But how would they explain kids like my son and many others I've read about

who were actually very gifted academically, very popular socially and often

gifted athletes? The " golden " kids? We recently lost one such young lady in

Arkansas - 18 years old, beautiful, popular, captain of the national

championship high school cheerleading team, and from a wealth, prominent family

- who died as a result of a high speed auto accident. The toxicology reports

showed a 2.87 alcohol level and a trace of cocaine in her system. Her family

immediately pled for privacy and asked that the topic be dropped from the media,

which it was. My suspicion is that she was on an antidepressant (for no good

reason - probably had " anxiety attacks " or severe mood swings like B.J.) - hence

the ability and desire to drink copious amounts of alcohol and engage in

dangerous behavior. We'll never know and she won't show up as an antidepressant

death or suicide - but other than suicide, why would anyone drive

in excess of 100 mph on a curvy, dark road while totally blitzed?

Her death is another sign of how so many parents don't know how to help their

kids when they start losing it. I know we felt like we had to do something to

help B.J. or we would never have recommended that he go to a shrink in the first

place.

We have to figure out WHAT IS ACTUALLY WRONG WITH OUR KIDS so we can quit

turning to these quacks for answers. I can't figure it out...was it the double

round of corticosteroids B.J. took in February 2003 (the same time he started

" losing it " )? Was it the immunizations (he always had bad reactions to his

shots - fever, " scarletina fever, " diarrhea, vomitting, etc.)? Was it an

undiagnosed insulin problem (he would literally pass out if he didn't eat every

3-4 hrs, had migraines, a ridiculuously voracious appetite, and an extremely

high metabolism)? Was it all of the above? What was(were) the problem(s)?

I know now why B.J. killed himself - unbearable side effects caused by Effexor

XR. That mystery has been solved. But the other questions still haunt me.

Constantly..haunt me.

Terry

Jim <mofunnow@...> wrote:

It wouldn't be the drugs or the mercury now would it? Jim

Home news

Suicidal kids alert

87 words

9 December 2005

The Sun

Eire 23

English

© 2005 News Group Newspapers. All rights reserved

TRUANCY, poor schoolwork and aggression in some kids are signs they may

commit suicide, teachers were warned yesterday.

The Irish Association of Suicidology urged schools to look out for kids at

risk.

Association president Prof Fitzgerald said teens suffering from

attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and Asperger's Syndrome were

more prone to taking their own lives.

ADHD sufferers have poor concentration and are impulsive while those with

Asperger's are often loners with few social skills.

© The Sun, 2005

[Guest guest]

I agree, Jim.

But how would they explain kids like my son and many others I've read about

who were actually very gifted academically, very popular socially and often

gifted athletes? The " golden " kids? We recently lost one such young lady in

Arkansas - 18 years old, beautiful, popular, captain of the national

championship high school cheerleading team, and from a wealth, prominent family

- who died as a result of a high speed auto accident. The toxicology reports

showed a 2.87 alcohol level and a trace of cocaine in her system. Her family

immediately pled for privacy and asked that the topic be dropped from the media,

which it was. My suspicion is that she was on an antidepressant (for no good

reason - probably had " anxiety attacks " or severe mood swings like B.J.) - hence

the ability and desire to drink copious amounts of alcohol and engage in

dangerous behavior. We'll never know and she won't show up as an antidepressant

death or suicide - but other than suicide, why would anyone drive

in excess of 100 mph on a curvy, dark road while totally blitzed?

Her death is another sign of how so many parents don't know how to help their

kids when they start losing it. I know we felt like we had to do something to

help B.J. or we would never have recommended that he go to a shrink in the first

place.

We have to figure out WHAT IS ACTUALLY WRONG WITH OUR KIDS so we can quit

turning to these quacks for answers. I can't figure it out...was it the double

round of corticosteroids B.J. took in February 2003 (the same time he started

" losing it " )? Was it the immunizations (he always had bad reactions to his

shots - fever, " scarletina fever, " diarrhea, vomitting, etc.)? Was it an

undiagnosed insulin problem (he would literally pass out if he didn't eat every

3-4 hrs, had migraines, a ridiculuously voracious appetite, and an extremely

high metabolism)? Was it all of the above? What was(were) the problem(s)?

I know now why B.J. killed himself - unbearable side effects caused by Effexor

XR. That mystery has been solved. But the other questions still haunt me.

Constantly..haunt me.

Terry

Jim <mofunnow@...> wrote:

It wouldn't be the drugs or the mercury now would it? Jim

Home news

Suicidal kids alert

87 words

9 December 2005

The Sun

Eire 23

English

© 2005 News Group Newspapers. All rights reserved

TRUANCY, poor schoolwork and aggression in some kids are signs they may

commit suicide, teachers were warned yesterday.

The Irish Association of Suicidology urged schools to look out for kids at

risk.

Association president Prof Fitzgerald said teens suffering from

attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and Asperger's Syndrome were

more prone to taking their own lives.

ADHD sufferers have poor concentration and are impulsive while those with

Asperger's are often loners with few social skills.

© The Sun, 2005

[Guest guest]

Hi Terry,

The girl could have been on an antidepressant. Unless they test for it

during the autopsy we may never know. Of course they may have but even then

I would say that within 6 weeks of stopping antidepressants people can still

have a severe reaction so even a test might not show without getting her

medical records and seeing for sure.

I think toxins are a physical reason. Within that would be Infections. Other

body problems. Basically there a ton of things to rule out before ever

getting close to psychiatric drugs. A change of environment does wonders and

is something people did in the 1800's. They would send ailing family to

relatives and the sick person would many times straiten out and thrive.

I can say people do have bad spells in their lives, I sure have. I just

think it's a natural thing until the drugs are added, then a person has to

get over the drug to get back to a place where they can get over the

original problem. Repeatedly I hear people that finally get off the drugs

say that they are now fine or back where they were in the first place but so

happy to just not be on the drugs. I think most recurring mental illness is

the drugs not being tapered off correctly.

People have always gone insane, but nothing like what we have now and we

have it much easier then our ancestors. It's the drugs, additives and

vaccines as far as I'm concerned.

Jim

I agree, Jim.

But how would they explain kids like my son and many others I've read

about who were actually very gifted academically, very popular socially and

often gifted athletes? The " golden " kids? We recently lost one such young

lady in Arkansas - 18 years old, beautiful, popular, captain of the national

championship high school cheerleading team, and from a wealth, prominent

family - who died as a result of a high speed auto accident. The toxicology

reports showed a 2.87 alcohol level and a trace of cocaine in her system.

Her family immediately pled for privacy and asked that the topic be dropped

from the media, which it was. My suspicion is that she was on an

antidepressant (for no good reason - probably had " anxiety attacks " or

severe mood swings like B.J.) - hence the ability and desire to drink

copious amounts of alcohol and engage in dangerous behavior. We'll never

know and she won't show up as an antidepressant death or suicide - but other

than suicide, why would anyon!

e drive

in excess of 100 mph on a curvy, dark road while totally blitzed?

Her death is another sign of how so many parents don't know how to help

their kids when they start losing it. I know we felt like we had to do

something to help B.J. or we would never have recommended that he go to a

shrink in the first place.

We have to figure out WHAT IS ACTUALLY WRONG WITH OUR KIDS so we can quit

turning to these quacks for answers. I can't figure it out...was it the

double round of corticosteroids B.J. took in February 2003 (the same time he

started " losing it " )? Was it the immunizations (he always had bad reactions

to his shots - fever, " scarletina fever, " diarrhea, vomitting, etc.)? Was

it an undiagnosed insulin problem (he would literally pass out if he didn't

eat every 3-4 hrs, had migraines, a ridiculuously voracious appetite, and an

extremely high metabolism)? Was it all of the above? What was(were) the

problem(s)?

I know now why B.J. killed himself - unbearable side effects caused by

Effexor XR. That mystery has been solved. But the other questions still

haunt me. Constantly..haunt me.

Terry

Jim <mofunnow@...> wrote:

It wouldn't be the drugs or the mercury now would it? Jim

Home news

Suicidal kids alert

87 words

9 December 2005

The Sun

Eire 23

English

© 2005 News Group Newspapers. All rights reserved

TRUANCY, poor schoolwork and aggression in some kids are signs they may

commit suicide, teachers were warned yesterday.

The Irish Association of Suicidology urged schools to look out for kids at

risk.

Association president Prof Fitzgerald said teens suffering from

attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and Asperger's Syndrome were

more prone to taking their own lives.

ADHD sufferers have poor concentration and are impulsive while those with

Asperger's are often loners with few social skills.

© The Sun, 2005

[Guest guest]

Hi Terry,

The girl could have been on an antidepressant. Unless they test for it

during the autopsy we may never know. Of course they may have but even then

I would say that within 6 weeks of stopping antidepressants people can still

have a severe reaction so even a test might not show without getting her

medical records and seeing for sure.

I think toxins are a physical reason. Within that would be Infections. Other

body problems. Basically there a ton of things to rule out before ever

getting close to psychiatric drugs. A change of environment does wonders and

is something people did in the 1800's. They would send ailing family to

relatives and the sick person would many times straiten out and thrive.

I can say people do have bad spells in their lives, I sure have. I just

think it's a natural thing until the drugs are added, then a person has to

get over the drug to get back to a place where they can get over the

original problem. Repeatedly I hear people that finally get off the drugs

say that they are now fine or back where they were in the first place but so

happy to just not be on the drugs. I think most recurring mental illness is

the drugs not being tapered off correctly.

People have always gone insane, but nothing like what we have now and we

have it much easier then our ancestors. It's the drugs, additives and

vaccines as far as I'm concerned.

Jim

I agree, Jim.

But how would they explain kids like my son and many others I've read

about who were actually very gifted academically, very popular socially and

often gifted athletes? The " golden " kids? We recently lost one such young

lady in Arkansas - 18 years old, beautiful, popular, captain of the national

championship high school cheerleading team, and from a wealth, prominent

family - who died as a result of a high speed auto accident. The toxicology

reports showed a 2.87 alcohol level and a trace of cocaine in her system.

Her family immediately pled for privacy and asked that the topic be dropped

from the media, which it was. My suspicion is that she was on an

antidepressant (for no good reason - probably had " anxiety attacks " or

severe mood swings like B.J.) - hence the ability and desire to drink

copious amounts of alcohol and engage in dangerous behavior. We'll never

know and she won't show up as an antidepressant death or suicide - but other

than suicide, why would anyon!

e drive

in excess of 100 mph on a curvy, dark road while totally blitzed?

Her death is another sign of how so many parents don't know how to help

their kids when they start losing it. I know we felt like we had to do

something to help B.J. or we would never have recommended that he go to a

shrink in the first place.

We have to figure out WHAT IS ACTUALLY WRONG WITH OUR KIDS so we can quit

turning to these quacks for answers. I can't figure it out...was it the

double round of corticosteroids B.J. took in February 2003 (the same time he

started " losing it " )? Was it the immunizations (he always had bad reactions

to his shots - fever, " scarletina fever, " diarrhea, vomitting, etc.)? Was

it an undiagnosed insulin problem (he would literally pass out if he didn't

eat every 3-4 hrs, had migraines, a ridiculuously voracious appetite, and an

extremely high metabolism)? Was it all of the above? What was(were) the

problem(s)?

I know now why B.J. killed himself - unbearable side effects caused by

Effexor XR. That mystery has been solved. But the other questions still

haunt me. Constantly..haunt me.

Terry

Jim <mofunnow@...> wrote:

It wouldn't be the drugs or the mercury now would it? Jim

Home news

Suicidal kids alert

87 words

9 December 2005

The Sun

Eire 23

English

© 2005 News Group Newspapers. All rights reserved

TRUANCY, poor schoolwork and aggression in some kids are signs they may

commit suicide, teachers were warned yesterday.

The Irish Association of Suicidology urged schools to look out for kids at

risk.

Association president Prof Fitzgerald said teens suffering from

attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and Asperger's Syndrome were

more prone to taking their own lives.

ADHD sufferers have poor concentration and are impulsive while those with

Asperger's are often loners with few social skills.

© The Sun, 2005

[Guest guest]

Hi Terry,

The girl could have been on an antidepressant. Unless they test for it

during the autopsy we may never know. Of course they may have but even then

I would say that within 6 weeks of stopping antidepressants people can still

have a severe reaction so even a test might not show without getting her

medical records and seeing for sure.

I think toxins are a physical reason. Within that would be Infections. Other

body problems. Basically there a ton of things to rule out before ever

getting close to psychiatric drugs. A change of environment does wonders and

is something people did in the 1800's. They would send ailing family to

relatives and the sick person would many times straiten out and thrive.

I can say people do have bad spells in their lives, I sure have. I just

think it's a natural thing until the drugs are added, then a person has to

get over the drug to get back to a place where they can get over the

original problem. Repeatedly I hear people that finally get off the drugs

say that they are now fine or back where they were in the first place but so

happy to just not be on the drugs. I think most recurring mental illness is

the drugs not being tapered off correctly.

People have always gone insane, but nothing like what we have now and we

have it much easier then our ancestors. It's the drugs, additives and

vaccines as far as I'm concerned.

Jim

I agree, Jim.

But how would they explain kids like my son and many others I've read

about who were actually very gifted academically, very popular socially and

often gifted athletes? The " golden " kids? We recently lost one such young

lady in Arkansas - 18 years old, beautiful, popular, captain of the national

championship high school cheerleading team, and from a wealth, prominent

family - who died as a result of a high speed auto accident. The toxicology

reports showed a 2.87 alcohol level and a trace of cocaine in her system.

Her family immediately pled for privacy and asked that the topic be dropped

from the media, which it was. My suspicion is that she was on an

antidepressant (for no good reason - probably had " anxiety attacks " or

severe mood swings like B.J.) - hence the ability and desire to drink

copious amounts of alcohol and engage in dangerous behavior. We'll never

know and she won't show up as an antidepressant death or suicide - but other

than suicide, why would anyon!

e drive

in excess of 100 mph on a curvy, dark road while totally blitzed?

Her death is another sign of how so many parents don't know how to help

their kids when they start losing it. I know we felt like we had to do

something to help B.J. or we would never have recommended that he go to a

shrink in the first place.

We have to figure out WHAT IS ACTUALLY WRONG WITH OUR KIDS so we can quit

turning to these quacks for answers. I can't figure it out...was it the

double round of corticosteroids B.J. took in February 2003 (the same time he

started " losing it " )? Was it the immunizations (he always had bad reactions

to his shots - fever, " scarletina fever, " diarrhea, vomitting, etc.)? Was

it an undiagnosed insulin problem (he would literally pass out if he didn't

eat every 3-4 hrs, had migraines, a ridiculuously voracious appetite, and an

extremely high metabolism)? Was it all of the above? What was(were) the

problem(s)?

I know now why B.J. killed himself - unbearable side effects caused by

Effexor XR. That mystery has been solved. But the other questions still

haunt me. Constantly..haunt me.

Terry

Jim <mofunnow@...> wrote:

It wouldn't be the drugs or the mercury now would it? Jim

Home news

Suicidal kids alert

87 words

9 December 2005

The Sun

Eire 23

English

© 2005 News Group Newspapers. All rights reserved

TRUANCY, poor schoolwork and aggression in some kids are signs they may

commit suicide, teachers were warned yesterday.

The Irish Association of Suicidology urged schools to look out for kids at

risk.

Association president Prof Fitzgerald said teens suffering from

attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and Asperger's Syndrome were

more prone to taking their own lives.

ADHD sufferers have poor concentration and are impulsive while those with

Asperger's are often loners with few social skills.

© The Sun, 2005

[Guest guest]

Hi Terry,

The girl could have been on an antidepressant. Unless they test for it

during the autopsy we may never know. Of course they may have but even then

I would say that within 6 weeks of stopping antidepressants people can still

have a severe reaction so even a test might not show without getting her

medical records and seeing for sure.

I think toxins are a physical reason. Within that would be Infections. Other

body problems. Basically there a ton of things to rule out before ever

getting close to psychiatric drugs. A change of environment does wonders and

is something people did in the 1800's. They would send ailing family to

relatives and the sick person would many times straiten out and thrive.

I can say people do have bad spells in their lives, I sure have. I just

think it's a natural thing until the drugs are added, then a person has to

get over the drug to get back to a place where they can get over the

original problem. Repeatedly I hear people that finally get off the drugs

say that they are now fine or back where they were in the first place but so

happy to just not be on the drugs. I think most recurring mental illness is

the drugs not being tapered off correctly.

People have always gone insane, but nothing like what we have now and we

have it much easier then our ancestors. It's the drugs, additives and

vaccines as far as I'm concerned.

Jim

I agree, Jim.

But how would they explain kids like my son and many others I've read

about who were actually very gifted academically, very popular socially and

often gifted athletes? The " golden " kids? We recently lost one such young

lady in Arkansas - 18 years old, beautiful, popular, captain of the national

championship high school cheerleading team, and from a wealth, prominent

family - who died as a result of a high speed auto accident. The toxicology

reports showed a 2.87 alcohol level and a trace of cocaine in her system.

Her family immediately pled for privacy and asked that the topic be dropped

from the media, which it was. My suspicion is that she was on an

antidepressant (for no good reason - probably had " anxiety attacks " or

severe mood swings like B.J.) - hence the ability and desire to drink

copious amounts of alcohol and engage in dangerous behavior. We'll never

know and she won't show up as an antidepressant death or suicide - but other

than suicide, why would anyon!

e drive

in excess of 100 mph on a curvy, dark road while totally blitzed?

Her death is another sign of how so many parents don't know how to help

their kids when they start losing it. I know we felt like we had to do

something to help B.J. or we would never have recommended that he go to a

shrink in the first place.

We have to figure out WHAT IS ACTUALLY WRONG WITH OUR KIDS so we can quit

turning to these quacks for answers. I can't figure it out...was it the

double round of corticosteroids B.J. took in February 2003 (the same time he

started " losing it " )? Was it the immunizations (he always had bad reactions

to his shots - fever, " scarletina fever, " diarrhea, vomitting, etc.)? Was

it an undiagnosed insulin problem (he would literally pass out if he didn't

eat every 3-4 hrs, had migraines, a ridiculuously voracious appetite, and an

extremely high metabolism)? Was it all of the above? What was(were) the

problem(s)?

I know now why B.J. killed himself - unbearable side effects caused by

Effexor XR. That mystery has been solved. But the other questions still

haunt me. Constantly..haunt me.

Terry

Jim <mofunnow@...> wrote:

It wouldn't be the drugs or the mercury now would it? Jim

Home news

Suicidal kids alert

87 words

9 December 2005

The Sun

Eire 23

English

© 2005 News Group Newspapers. All rights reserved

TRUANCY, poor schoolwork and aggression in some kids are signs they may

commit suicide, teachers were warned yesterday.

The Irish Association of Suicidology urged schools to look out for kids at

risk.

Association president Prof Fitzgerald said teens suffering from

attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and Asperger's Syndrome were

more prone to taking their own lives.

ADHD sufferers have poor concentration and are impulsive while those with

Asperger's are often loners with few social skills.

© The Sun, 2005

[Guest guest]

Are you saying that SSRIs disinhibit kids and make them more

susceptible to begin taking street drugs?????

[Guest guest]

Are you saying that SSRIs disinhibit kids and make them more

susceptible to begin taking street drugs?????

[Guest guest]

Are you saying that SSRIs disinhibit kids and make them more

susceptible to begin taking street drugs?????

[Guest guest]

Are you saying that SSRIs disinhibit kids and make them more

susceptible to begin taking street drugs?????

[Guest guest]

Absolutely I am saying that and more. I also believe ADHD-treated kids are much

more likely to specifically become meth freaks (always looking for that speed

high they were force-fed for years). I also think that we can blame a lot of

the overt promiscuity and perverse sexual activity our young people engage in at

increasingly earlier ages can also be partially attributed to ADHD & other

psyochotropic medications. (Our generation's " sexually liberated " thinking and

the media are the other main influences in these behaviors.) Man, we sure have

screwed up this world...

Terry

bowriver011 <bowriver011@...> wrote:

Are you saying that SSRIs disinhibit kids and make them more

susceptible to begin taking street drugs?????

[Guest guest]

Absolutely I am saying that and more. I also believe ADHD-treated kids are much

more likely to specifically become meth freaks (always looking for that speed

high they were force-fed for years). I also think that we can blame a lot of

the overt promiscuity and perverse sexual activity our young people engage in at

increasingly earlier ages can also be partially attributed to ADHD & other

psyochotropic medications. (Our generation's " sexually liberated " thinking and

the media are the other main influences in these behaviors.) Man, we sure have

screwed up this world...

Terry

bowriver011 <bowriver011@...> wrote:

Are you saying that SSRIs disinhibit kids and make them more

susceptible to begin taking street drugs?????

[Guest guest]

Absolutely I am saying that and more. I also believe ADHD-treated kids are much

more likely to specifically become meth freaks (always looking for that speed

high they were force-fed for years). I also think that we can blame a lot of

the overt promiscuity and perverse sexual activity our young people engage in at

increasingly earlier ages can also be partially attributed to ADHD & other

psyochotropic medications. (Our generation's " sexually liberated " thinking and

the media are the other main influences in these behaviors.) Man, we sure have

screwed up this world...

Terry

bowriver011 <bowriver011@...> wrote:

Are you saying that SSRIs disinhibit kids and make them more

susceptible to begin taking street drugs?????

[Guest guest]

Absolutely I am saying that and more. I also believe ADHD-treated kids are much

more likely to specifically become meth freaks (always looking for that speed

high they were force-fed for years). I also think that we can blame a lot of

the overt promiscuity and perverse sexual activity our young people engage in at

increasingly earlier ages can also be partially attributed to ADHD & other

psyochotropic medications. (Our generation's " sexually liberated " thinking and

the media are the other main influences in these behaviors.) Man, we sure have

screwed up this world...

Terry

bowriver011 <bowriver011@...> wrote:

Are you saying that SSRIs disinhibit kids and make them more

susceptible to begin taking street drugs?????

[Guest guest]

Hi Bow,

I'm saying that antidepressants cause suicide and mercury in vaccines causes

Aspergers. But now that you mention it we have heard repeatedly of people's

natural inhibitions to do things they know are wrong go flying out the

window on antidepressants. So yeah I can see increased drug use would make

sense next to increased dangerous sexual behavior and increased spending of

savings, dumping your spouse out of the blue and all the other harmful

things people are more inclined to do on the drugs.

As usual the solution creates more of a problem. I'm not saying people don't

take the drugs for real reasons but if they knew what I have seen on this

group over the last 2 years they would be way less likely to go that route.

Jim

Are you saying that SSRIs disinhibit kids and make them more

susceptible to begin taking street drugs?????

[Guest guest]

Hi Bow,

I'm saying that antidepressants cause suicide and mercury in vaccines causes

Aspergers. But now that you mention it we have heard repeatedly of people's

natural inhibitions to do things they know are wrong go flying out the

window on antidepressants. So yeah I can see increased drug use would make

sense next to increased dangerous sexual behavior and increased spending of

savings, dumping your spouse out of the blue and all the other harmful

things people are more inclined to do on the drugs.

As usual the solution creates more of a problem. I'm not saying people don't

take the drugs for real reasons but if they knew what I have seen on this

group over the last 2 years they would be way less likely to go that route.

Jim

Are you saying that SSRIs disinhibit kids and make them more

susceptible to begin taking street drugs?????

[Guest guest]

Hi Bow,

I'm saying that antidepressants cause suicide and mercury in vaccines causes

Aspergers. But now that you mention it we have heard repeatedly of people's

natural inhibitions to do things they know are wrong go flying out the

window on antidepressants. So yeah I can see increased drug use would make

sense next to increased dangerous sexual behavior and increased spending of

savings, dumping your spouse out of the blue and all the other harmful

things people are more inclined to do on the drugs.

As usual the solution creates more of a problem. I'm not saying people don't

take the drugs for real reasons but if they knew what I have seen on this

group over the last 2 years they would be way less likely to go that route.

Jim

Are you saying that SSRIs disinhibit kids and make them more

susceptible to begin taking street drugs?????

[Guest guest]

Hi Bow,

I'm saying that antidepressants cause suicide and mercury in vaccines causes

Aspergers. But now that you mention it we have heard repeatedly of people's

natural inhibitions to do things they know are wrong go flying out the

window on antidepressants. So yeah I can see increased drug use would make

sense next to increased dangerous sexual behavior and increased spending of

savings, dumping your spouse out of the blue and all the other harmful

things people are more inclined to do on the drugs.

As usual the solution creates more of a problem. I'm not saying people don't

take the drugs for real reasons but if they knew what I have seen on this

group over the last 2 years they would be way less likely to go that route.

Jim

Are you saying that SSRIs disinhibit kids and make them more

susceptible to begin taking street drugs?????

[Guest guest]

Hi Bow and Terry,

LOL, I missed the mark with my last post. I know for a fact that stimulants

for ADHD can lead to other drugs because I was a Ritalin kid and I remember

the few years between refusing the Ritalin and discovering marijuana.

I always felt like something was missing, I was slightly depressed whenever

I stopped the Ritalin, like during the summer. Then years later about 16

years old I smoked marijuana for the first time and even though it's not the

same type of drug or effect at all I felt complete again. I think anyone

quiting any drug they have become dependent on goes through the depression

and it takes a long time to shake that feeling like something is missing. I

started Ritalin in 1969 and refused it, because it made me feel bad all the

time, around 1974 - 1975. Later I realized that I had fought my way through

school on Ritalin and stopped around the time I had finally refused to take

it anymore.

I still forget things sometimes but who doesn't. I learned how to read by

defining all the words in what I'm reading and using phonics. The schools do

this " whole reading " junk and it about killed me. You figure out what the

word means by looking at the other words in the sentence. What rubbish and

everyone wonders why kids " need " to be drugged to sit still.

Jim

Absolutely I am saying that and more. I also believe ADHD-treated kids are

much more likely to specifically become meth freaks (always looking for that

speed high they were force-fed for years). I also think that we can blame a

lot of the overt promiscuity and perverse sexual activity our young people

engage in at increasingly earlier ages can also be partially attributed to

ADHD & other psyochotropic medications. (Our generation's " sexually

liberated " thinking and the media are the other main influences in these

behaviors.) Man, we sure have screwed up this world...

Terry

[Guest guest]

Hi Bow and Terry,

LOL, I missed the mark with my last post. I know for a fact that stimulants

for ADHD can lead to other drugs because I was a Ritalin kid and I remember

the few years between refusing the Ritalin and discovering marijuana.

I always felt like something was missing, I was slightly depressed whenever

I stopped the Ritalin, like during the summer. Then years later about 16

years old I smoked marijuana for the first time and even though it's not the

same type of drug or effect at all I felt complete again. I think anyone

quiting any drug they have become dependent on goes through the depression

and it takes a long time to shake that feeling like something is missing. I

started Ritalin in 1969 and refused it, because it made me feel bad all the

time, around 1974 - 1975. Later I realized that I had fought my way through

school on Ritalin and stopped around the time I had finally refused to take

it anymore.

I still forget things sometimes but who doesn't. I learned how to read by

defining all the words in what I'm reading and using phonics. The schools do

this " whole reading " junk and it about killed me. You figure out what the

word means by looking at the other words in the sentence. What rubbish and

everyone wonders why kids " need " to be drugged to sit still.

Jim

Absolutely I am saying that and more. I also believe ADHD-treated kids are

much more likely to specifically become meth freaks (always looking for that

speed high they were force-fed for years). I also think that we can blame a

lot of the overt promiscuity and perverse sexual activity our young people

engage in at increasingly earlier ages can also be partially attributed to

ADHD & other psyochotropic medications. (Our generation's " sexually

liberated " thinking and the media are the other main influences in these

behaviors.) Man, we sure have screwed up this world...

Terry

[Guest guest]

Hi Bow and Terry,

LOL, I missed the mark with my last post. I know for a fact that stimulants

for ADHD can lead to other drugs because I was a Ritalin kid and I remember

the few years between refusing the Ritalin and discovering marijuana.

I always felt like something was missing, I was slightly depressed whenever

I stopped the Ritalin, like during the summer. Then years later about 16

years old I smoked marijuana for the first time and even though it's not the

same type of drug or effect at all I felt complete again. I think anyone

quiting any drug they have become dependent on goes through the depression

and it takes a long time to shake that feeling like something is missing. I

started Ritalin in 1969 and refused it, because it made me feel bad all the

time, around 1974 - 1975. Later I realized that I had fought my way through

school on Ritalin and stopped around the time I had finally refused to take

it anymore.

I still forget things sometimes but who doesn't. I learned how to read by

defining all the words in what I'm reading and using phonics. The schools do

this " whole reading " junk and it about killed me. You figure out what the

word means by looking at the other words in the sentence. What rubbish and

everyone wonders why kids " need " to be drugged to sit still.

Jim

Absolutely I am saying that and more. I also believe ADHD-treated kids are

much more likely to specifically become meth freaks (always looking for that

speed high they were force-fed for years). I also think that we can blame a

lot of the overt promiscuity and perverse sexual activity our young people

engage in at increasingly earlier ages can also be partially attributed to

ADHD & other psyochotropic medications. (Our generation's " sexually

liberated " thinking and the media are the other main influences in these

behaviors.) Man, we sure have screwed up this world...

Terry

[Guest guest]

Hi Bow and Terry,

LOL, I missed the mark with my last post. I know for a fact that stimulants

for ADHD can lead to other drugs because I was a Ritalin kid and I remember

the few years between refusing the Ritalin and discovering marijuana.

I always felt like something was missing, I was slightly depressed whenever

I stopped the Ritalin, like during the summer. Then years later about 16

years old I smoked marijuana for the first time and even though it's not the

same type of drug or effect at all I felt complete again. I think anyone

quiting any drug they have become dependent on goes through the depression

and it takes a long time to shake that feeling like something is missing. I

started Ritalin in 1969 and refused it, because it made me feel bad all the

time, around 1974 - 1975. Later I realized that I had fought my way through

school on Ritalin and stopped around the time I had finally refused to take

it anymore.

I still forget things sometimes but who doesn't. I learned how to read by

defining all the words in what I'm reading and using phonics. The schools do

this " whole reading " junk and it about killed me. You figure out what the

word means by looking at the other words in the sentence. What rubbish and

everyone wonders why kids " need " to be drugged to sit still.

Jim

Absolutely I am saying that and more. I also believe ADHD-treated kids are

much more likely to specifically become meth freaks (always looking for that

speed high they were force-fed for years). I also think that we can blame a

lot of the overt promiscuity and perverse sexual activity our young people

engage in at increasingly earlier ages can also be partially attributed to

ADHD & other psyochotropic medications. (Our generation's " sexually

liberated " thinking and the media are the other main influences in these

behaviors.) Man, we sure have screwed up this world...

Terry