Guest guest Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Paragraph 9: “If it is ‘good promotional practice’ to promote Cymbalta as alleviating pain in depression based on a meager and borderline statistically significant effect over placebo, then I suppose good promotional practice is being followed.” - Psychology Professor Glen Spielmans From Pharmalot: http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/overstated-claims-hurt-cymbalta-ad-is-skewered/\ #more-11099 Overstated Claims Hurt: Cymbalta Ad Is Skewered January 3rd, 2008 9:26 am By Ed Silverman One night while watching TV, Glen Spielmans noticed a ‘Depression Hurts’ ad, which is part of the marketing campaign for Lilly’s Cymbalta, and was struck by what he saw. “I thought the claim that Cymbalta not only alleviated depression but also physical pain for depressed patients was a bit on the incredible side, so I thought I’d see if their claims were supported by data,” he tells us. And so the psychology professor at Metropolitan State University in St. , Minnesota, conducted a meta-analysis of five published studies that examined Cymbalta and pain relief in depressed patients. What did he find? Overstated claims, he says, as well as incomplete reporting - Lilly, he argues, didn’t provide summaries of all relevant data in three of their trials, which runs counter to the drugmaker’s contention that it maintains a transparent policy toward disclosing all clinical trial data. “The results indicate a very small and statistically nonsignificant analegesic effect…Additionally, some of the relevant data on (Cymbalta’s) effects have not been reported fully, making it likely that the obtained results reflect an overestimate of its true impact on painful physical symptoms in depression,” he wrote in Psychotherapy and Psychosomatics (here’s the study). “Based upon the currently available evidence, the marketing of (Cymbalta) as an antidepressant with analgesic properties for people with depression does not appear to be adequately supported.” “This is misleading advertising,” says Spielmans. A Lilly spokeswoman wrote back to say the drugmaker follows “good promotional practices and promote our products based on claims that we can support from our data,” and that Lilly discloses publicly all research that is “significant,” whether favorable or unfavorable.” She didn’t specifically address his charge, though, that some summaries weren’t disclosed at the time he conducted his research. The spokeswoman also maintains “clinical trial results show Cymbalta is effective in treating the broad range of depression symptoms, including the painful physical symptoms.” However, she didn’t contend that Cymbalta has a clinically significant impact on treating pain in depressed patients. The Lilly spokeswoman then criticized Spielmans’ analysis, charging he misinterpreted and, therefore, excluded certain scales. “He also mixed clinical trials that had very different study designs that normally would not be grouped together in such a study,” she writes. “In addition, Dr. Spielmans chose to analyze only five of the nine publicly available duloxetine trials in depressed patients with pain data.” For his part, Spielmans tells us that he “did not mix studies with drastically different designs. Each study in the meta-analysis examined the effects of (Cymbalta) versus placebo and/or paroxetine (Paxil) in treating pain in patients with depression. This criticism is not valid. It would appear that Lilly has not read my meta-analysis. As stated in my article, two studies were excluded from analysis because they failed to provide sufficient data. I believe that two studies have been published since my meta-analysis went to press. That adds up to nine studies. “If it is ‘good promotional practice’ to promote Cymbalta as alleviating pain in depression based on a meager and borderline statistically significant effect over placebo, then I suppose good promotional practice is being followed.” Despite such criticisms, Lilly’s Cymbalta advertising garnered an ‘All-Stars Large Pharma Marketing Team’ award from Medical Marketing & Media. You can read about that here. Hat tip to WSJ Health Blog and Furious Seasons FAIR USE NOTICE: This may contain copyrighted material. Such material is made available for educational purposes, to advance understanding of human rights, democracy, scientific, moral, ethical, and social justice issues, etc. This transmittal constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in Title 17 U.S.C. section 107 of the US Copyright Law. This material is distributed without profit. ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Paragraph 9: “If it is ‘good promotional practice’ to promote Cymbalta as alleviating pain in depression based on a meager and borderline statistically significant effect over placebo, then I suppose good promotional practice is being followed.” - Psychology Professor Glen Spielmans From Pharmalot: http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/overstated-claims-hurt-cymbalta-ad-is-skewered/\ #more-11099 Overstated Claims Hurt: Cymbalta Ad Is Skewered January 3rd, 2008 9:26 am By Ed Silverman One night while watching TV, Glen Spielmans noticed a ‘Depression Hurts’ ad, which is part of the marketing campaign for Lilly’s Cymbalta, and was struck by what he saw. “I thought the claim that Cymbalta not only alleviated depression but also physical pain for depressed patients was a bit on the incredible side, so I thought I’d see if their claims were supported by data,” he tells us. And so the psychology professor at Metropolitan State University in St. , Minnesota, conducted a meta-analysis of five published studies that examined Cymbalta and pain relief in depressed patients. What did he find? Overstated claims, he says, as well as incomplete reporting - Lilly, he argues, didn’t provide summaries of all relevant data in three of their trials, which runs counter to the drugmaker’s contention that it maintains a transparent policy toward disclosing all clinical trial data. “The results indicate a very small and statistically nonsignificant analegesic effect…Additionally, some of the relevant data on (Cymbalta’s) effects have not been reported fully, making it likely that the obtained results reflect an overestimate of its true impact on painful physical symptoms in depression,” he wrote in Psychotherapy and Psychosomatics (here’s the study). “Based upon the currently available evidence, the marketing of (Cymbalta) as an antidepressant with analgesic properties for people with depression does not appear to be adequately supported.” “This is misleading advertising,” says Spielmans. A Lilly spokeswoman wrote back to say the drugmaker follows “good promotional practices and promote our products based on claims that we can support from our data,” and that Lilly discloses publicly all research that is “significant,” whether favorable or unfavorable.” She didn’t specifically address his charge, though, that some summaries weren’t disclosed at the time he conducted his research. The spokeswoman also maintains “clinical trial results show Cymbalta is effective in treating the broad range of depression symptoms, including the painful physical symptoms.” However, she didn’t contend that Cymbalta has a clinically significant impact on treating pain in depressed patients. The Lilly spokeswoman then criticized Spielmans’ analysis, charging he misinterpreted and, therefore, excluded certain scales. “He also mixed clinical trials that had very different study designs that normally would not be grouped together in such a study,” she writes. “In addition, Dr. Spielmans chose to analyze only five of the nine publicly available duloxetine trials in depressed patients with pain data.” For his part, Spielmans tells us that he “did not mix studies with drastically different designs. Each study in the meta-analysis examined the effects of (Cymbalta) versus placebo and/or paroxetine (Paxil) in treating pain in patients with depression. This criticism is not valid. It would appear that Lilly has not read my meta-analysis. As stated in my article, two studies were excluded from analysis because they failed to provide sufficient data. I believe that two studies have been published since my meta-analysis went to press. That adds up to nine studies. “If it is ‘good promotional practice’ to promote Cymbalta as alleviating pain in depression based on a meager and borderline statistically significant effect over placebo, then I suppose good promotional practice is being followed.” Despite such criticisms, Lilly’s Cymbalta advertising garnered an ‘All-Stars Large Pharma Marketing Team’ award from Medical Marketing & Media. You can read about that here. Hat tip to WSJ Health Blog and Furious Seasons FAIR USE NOTICE: This may contain copyrighted material. Such material is made available for educational purposes, to advance understanding of human rights, democracy, scientific, moral, ethical, and social justice issues, etc. This transmittal constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in Title 17 U.S.C. section 107 of the US Copyright Law. This material is distributed without profit. ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Paragraph 9: “If it is ‘good promotional practice’ to promote Cymbalta as alleviating pain in depression based on a meager and borderline statistically significant effect over placebo, then I suppose good promotional practice is being followed.” - Psychology Professor Glen Spielmans From Pharmalot: http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/overstated-claims-hurt-cymbalta-ad-is-skewered/\ #more-11099 Overstated Claims Hurt: Cymbalta Ad Is Skewered January 3rd, 2008 9:26 am By Ed Silverman One night while watching TV, Glen Spielmans noticed a ‘Depression Hurts’ ad, which is part of the marketing campaign for Lilly’s Cymbalta, and was struck by what he saw. “I thought the claim that Cymbalta not only alleviated depression but also physical pain for depressed patients was a bit on the incredible side, so I thought I’d see if their claims were supported by data,” he tells us. And so the psychology professor at Metropolitan State University in St. , Minnesota, conducted a meta-analysis of five published studies that examined Cymbalta and pain relief in depressed patients. What did he find? Overstated claims, he says, as well as incomplete reporting - Lilly, he argues, didn’t provide summaries of all relevant data in three of their trials, which runs counter to the drugmaker’s contention that it maintains a transparent policy toward disclosing all clinical trial data. “The results indicate a very small and statistically nonsignificant analegesic effect…Additionally, some of the relevant data on (Cymbalta’s) effects have not been reported fully, making it likely that the obtained results reflect an overestimate of its true impact on painful physical symptoms in depression,” he wrote in Psychotherapy and Psychosomatics (here’s the study). “Based upon the currently available evidence, the marketing of (Cymbalta) as an antidepressant with analgesic properties for people with depression does not appear to be adequately supported.” “This is misleading advertising,” says Spielmans. A Lilly spokeswoman wrote back to say the drugmaker follows “good promotional practices and promote our products based on claims that we can support from our data,” and that Lilly discloses publicly all research that is “significant,” whether favorable or unfavorable.” She didn’t specifically address his charge, though, that some summaries weren’t disclosed at the time he conducted his research. The spokeswoman also maintains “clinical trial results show Cymbalta is effective in treating the broad range of depression symptoms, including the painful physical symptoms.” However, she didn’t contend that Cymbalta has a clinically significant impact on treating pain in depressed patients. The Lilly spokeswoman then criticized Spielmans’ analysis, charging he misinterpreted and, therefore, excluded certain scales. “He also mixed clinical trials that had very different study designs that normally would not be grouped together in such a study,” she writes. “In addition, Dr. Spielmans chose to analyze only five of the nine publicly available duloxetine trials in depressed patients with pain data.” For his part, Spielmans tells us that he “did not mix studies with drastically different designs. Each study in the meta-analysis examined the effects of (Cymbalta) versus placebo and/or paroxetine (Paxil) in treating pain in patients with depression. This criticism is not valid. It would appear that Lilly has not read my meta-analysis. As stated in my article, two studies were excluded from analysis because they failed to provide sufficient data. I believe that two studies have been published since my meta-analysis went to press. That adds up to nine studies. “If it is ‘good promotional practice’ to promote Cymbalta as alleviating pain in depression based on a meager and borderline statistically significant effect over placebo, then I suppose good promotional practice is being followed.” Despite such criticisms, Lilly’s Cymbalta advertising garnered an ‘All-Stars Large Pharma Marketing Team’ award from Medical Marketing & Media. You can read about that here. Hat tip to WSJ Health Blog and Furious Seasons FAIR USE NOTICE: This may contain copyrighted material. Such material is made available for educational purposes, to advance understanding of human rights, democracy, scientific, moral, ethical, and social justice issues, etc. This transmittal constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in Title 17 U.S.C. section 107 of the US Copyright Law. This material is distributed without profit. ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Paragraph 9: “If it is ‘good promotional practice’ to promote Cymbalta as alleviating pain in depression based on a meager and borderline statistically significant effect over placebo, then I suppose good promotional practice is being followed.” - Psychology Professor Glen Spielmans From Pharmalot: http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/overstated-claims-hurt-cymbalta-ad-is-skewered/\ #more-11099 Overstated Claims Hurt: Cymbalta Ad Is Skewered January 3rd, 2008 9:26 am By Ed Silverman One night while watching TV, Glen Spielmans noticed a ‘Depression Hurts’ ad, which is part of the marketing campaign for Lilly’s Cymbalta, and was struck by what he saw. “I thought the claim that Cymbalta not only alleviated depression but also physical pain for depressed patients was a bit on the incredible side, so I thought I’d see if their claims were supported by data,” he tells us. And so the psychology professor at Metropolitan State University in St. , Minnesota, conducted a meta-analysis of five published studies that examined Cymbalta and pain relief in depressed patients. What did he find? Overstated claims, he says, as well as incomplete reporting - Lilly, he argues, didn’t provide summaries of all relevant data in three of their trials, which runs counter to the drugmaker’s contention that it maintains a transparent policy toward disclosing all clinical trial data. “The results indicate a very small and statistically nonsignificant analegesic effect…Additionally, some of the relevant data on (Cymbalta’s) effects have not been reported fully, making it likely that the obtained results reflect an overestimate of its true impact on painful physical symptoms in depression,” he wrote in Psychotherapy and Psychosomatics (here’s the study). “Based upon the currently available evidence, the marketing of (Cymbalta) as an antidepressant with analgesic properties for people with depression does not appear to be adequately supported.” “This is misleading advertising,” says Spielmans. A Lilly spokeswoman wrote back to say the drugmaker follows “good promotional practices and promote our products based on claims that we can support from our data,” and that Lilly discloses publicly all research that is “significant,” whether favorable or unfavorable.” She didn’t specifically address his charge, though, that some summaries weren’t disclosed at the time he conducted his research. The spokeswoman also maintains “clinical trial results show Cymbalta is effective in treating the broad range of depression symptoms, including the painful physical symptoms.” However, she didn’t contend that Cymbalta has a clinically significant impact on treating pain in depressed patients. The Lilly spokeswoman then criticized Spielmans’ analysis, charging he misinterpreted and, therefore, excluded certain scales. “He also mixed clinical trials that had very different study designs that normally would not be grouped together in such a study,” she writes. “In addition, Dr. Spielmans chose to analyze only five of the nine publicly available duloxetine trials in depressed patients with pain data.” For his part, Spielmans tells us that he “did not mix studies with drastically different designs. Each study in the meta-analysis examined the effects of (Cymbalta) versus placebo and/or paroxetine (Paxil) in treating pain in patients with depression. This criticism is not valid. It would appear that Lilly has not read my meta-analysis. As stated in my article, two studies were excluded from analysis because they failed to provide sufficient data. I believe that two studies have been published since my meta-analysis went to press. That adds up to nine studies. “If it is ‘good promotional practice’ to promote Cymbalta as alleviating pain in depression based on a meager and borderline statistically significant effect over placebo, then I suppose good promotional practice is being followed.” Despite such criticisms, Lilly’s Cymbalta advertising garnered an ‘All-Stars Large Pharma Marketing Team’ award from Medical Marketing & Media. You can read about that here. Hat tip to WSJ Health Blog and Furious Seasons FAIR USE NOTICE: This may contain copyrighted material. Such material is made available for educational purposes, to advance understanding of human rights, democracy, scientific, moral, ethical, and social justice issues, etc. This transmittal constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in Title 17 U.S.C. section 107 of the US Copyright Law. This material is distributed without profit. ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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