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Here, here !!! Well said Hoggans !

It's not that some topics don't need to be discussed but things keep getting

taken beyond discussion...and are rehashed over & over again.

I've been here for a long time too - when Jess was born this list was a very

valuable source of information & support - it probably still is but a timid

new parent might have a hard time standing up for themselves and reaching

for it.

Four years ago......

I thought the " M " word was ok (hadn't ever heard " little people " )

I didn't know dwarfism was a disability or had associated health

problems (I never

knew/met any little people)

My husband & I were alone in a small northern community in Canada with

no

resources, doctors who had never seen a dwarf before, and a wrong

diagnosis to

boot.

If I could predict it, the next set of emails will say that we should split

the list into parent groups, adult groups, and a discussion group so people

aren't offended. Not a solution to me - I'd still join all 3 just to be a

fly on the wall to hear what concerns dwarfs of all ages have living in an

average statured world.

Anyway, 'nough said. I just wanted to say I support this list but I give up

on the " heated " discussions and hit the delete button alot. There is too

much condescension and anger. There used to be alot of sharing of

experiences and stories , as well as help....back in the " old days " .

Cori

The OLD listserv

>From: " Hoggan Clan " <banock@...>

>

>There are a few hundred of us here on the list that have been

>here since the beginning, or not much afterwards.

>Do any of you remember what the list was like back then?

>Questions, answers, support, laughing, crying, and giving so much

>to one another. Are these 'your' memories?

>Now, in my opinion, I have sadly watched as the list has become

>quiet most of the time, and what 'used to be' a VERY strong

>support group has dwindled down.

>What happened guys? There are a few posts now and again, but

>what happened to that old list where people knew they could turn

>to and hopefully get answers and support or whatever they needed.

>Heck, I even miss Fred's long emails and and his

>'attitude' that made him the fun guy he is.

>I know several of the families, ourselves included, dont turn to

>the list anymore. Some are gone off the list, others hide in the

>background, and others are just plain sick and tired of people

>writing privately and telling them to stop posting about

>something.

>WHAT IS THE LIST ALL ABOUT ANYWAY?

>I know this family sure needs some support. We have a daughter

>that has gone downhill very, very seriously. Another surgery is

>in the near future, and we have had to bout a lot of this alone.

>Several of our dear friends are here in the background and write

>and ask, and we are most greatful for that.

>There has to be others with the same feelings as ours. WE NEED

>THIS LIST, but as many, we have chosen to do it alone, or with

>few friends, because we were sick of the private messages telling

>us they are sick of us.

>Sorry, but Mandy has quite a few problems, and we need help, but

>where do we go? Roaming other listserves who are extremely

>supportive, but always suggest to come here? They dont

>understand dwarfism, but they do understand the pain, the

>anquish, the feeling of loss, the knowledge of 'what might come,'

>and the acceptance and support.

>Ok, I know I have said more than enough, but believe me, this

>list has changed so much, and frankly, we miss you guys!

>Our family is in some very serious times right now, and we dont

>even know if Mandy will be around for this year's conference.

>We are NOT exaggerating, but saying it as it is.

>We miss the list guys, we truly miss the old list.......

>Debi Hoggan

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>life as it is, because tomorrow

>there just might be something

>that will take it all away...

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