Guest guest Posted February 18, 2008 Report Share Posted February 18, 2008 VCO has natural tocopherol (vitamin E) content of 40mcg/gm http://www.coconuthaven.com/faq.htm 10 mg of vitamin E (10,000 mcg) = 15 IU. http://www.crnusa.org/about_recs3.html Assuming those websites are correct, and I have done the math correctly, the answer is no. Personally, I take 400 IU of E per day, which would be 280 mg of E. To get that much E from VCO would mean taking 7 liters of VCO each day. I seriously doubt any human has ever taken that much VCO in a single day. I suspect that much VCO might even be lethal. Alobar On 2/17/08, mvillena48 <mvillena48@...> wrote: > I have a question for the group and I hope to be enlightened. > > I am health conscious and I have learned of the benefits of VCO and I > learned a lot from this group.I would like to try it and have my own > personal experience to share. I am taking Vitamin E 800 IU everyday, > for I believe that it is one of the best antioxidant our body can have. > > Will the Vitamin E in the VCO be enough for me to take VCO only as my > source of the said vitamin and just take VCO alone? How much VCO will > I then take? > > MVillena > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2008 Report Share Posted February 18, 2008 Hello there: I could be dead wrong here, but I don't believe there is any Vitamin E in VCO and if there is, it would be a very small amount. I'm often wrong so.... You can get Vitamin E in Red Palm Oil. Bonnie Vitamin E and VCO I have a question for the group and I hope to be enlightened. I am health conscious and I have learned of the benefits of VCO and I learned a lot from this group.I would like to try it and have my own personal experience to share. I am taking Vitamin E 800 IU everyday, for I believe that it is one of the best antioxidant our body can have. Will the Vitamin E in the VCO be enough for me to take VCO only as my source of the said vitamin and just take VCO alone? How much VCO will I then take? MVillena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2008 Report Share Posted February 18, 2008 VCO is not a good source of vitamin E .However ,vitamin E needs fats to used by the body. VCO is very good in transporting vitamin E . It is impossible to get 800IU of vitamin E from food alone. You'll have to take a supplement to reach therapeutic levels. Bonnie Cole <bonnieview@...> wrote: Hello there: I could be dead wrong here, but I don't believe there is any Vitamin E in VCO and if there is, it would be a very small amount. I'm often wrong so.... You can get Vitamin E in Red Palm Oil. Bonnie Vitamin E and VCO I have a question for the group and I hope to be enlightened. I am health conscious and I have learned of the benefits of VCO and I learned a lot from this group.I would like to try it and have my own personal experience to share. I am taking Vitamin E 800 IU everyday, for I believe that it is one of the best antioxidant our body can have. Will the Vitamin E in the VCO be enough for me to take VCO only as my source of the said vitamin and just take VCO alone? How much VCO will I then take? MVillena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2008 Report Share Posted February 18, 2008 Hello, No, you are not wrong; I have done in depth analysis of VCO as well as its emulsion, the lab result is often inclusive, that is to say sometime it shows a very tiny amount, other time there is non. The claim is vitamin E (in VCO) is not by itself but rather is within some other element (chemical compounds). I've sent VCO samples to a well known Lab. in Ottawa, Canada and no trace of Vitamin E, however other elements (Lauric acid and " C " family) are very much confirmed. Tan [coconut_oil_ open_forum] Vitamin E and VCO I have a question for the group and I hope to be enlightened. I am health conscious and I have learned of the benefits of VCO and I learned a lot from this group.I would like to try it and have my own personal experience to share. I am taking Vitamin E 800 IU everyday, for I believe that it is one of the best antioxidant our body can have. Will the Vitamin E in the VCO be enough for me to take VCO only as my source of the said vitamin and just take VCO alone? How much VCO will I then take? MVillena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2008 Report Share Posted February 18, 2008 I think I am confused now. From the previous postings that I read, there are claims that ANH-VCO has vitamin E which is retained in their no heat process, the reason they are more expensive, and the reason I will buy this brand because of their claims, inspite of the price. It is a selling point. But, for other to say that there is little or no Vit E in VCO is something to be clarified. Is it merely a marketing hype? Bonnie might not be dead wrong, but who knows, he could be dead right! If he says he is often wrong, how will we know if he is right this time? We need facts, not presumptions. Now, there are two school of thoughts. MVillena > Hello, > No, you are not wrong; I have done in depth analysis of VCO as well as > its emulsion, the lab result is often inclusive, that is to say sometime it shows > a very tiny amount, other time there is non. The claim is vitamin E (in VCO) > is not by itself but rather is within some other element (chemical compounds). > > I've sent VCO samples to a well known Lab. in Ottawa, Canada and no trace > of Vitamin E, however other elements (Lauric acid and " C " family) are very > much confirmed. > Tan > > > > [coconut_oil_ open_forum] Vitamin E and VCO > > I have a question for the group and I hope to be enlightened. > > I am health conscious and I have learned of the benefits of VCO and I > learned a lot from this group.I would like to try it and have my own > personal experience to share. I am taking Vitamin E 800 IU everyday, > for I believe that it is one of the best antioxidant our body can have. > > Will the Vitamin E in the VCO be enough for me to take VCO only as my > source of the said vitamin and just take VCO alone? How much VCO will > I then take? > > MVillena > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2008 Report Share Posted February 18, 2008 If you want to be CERTAIN go to www.coconutresearchcenter.com and look under Nutrition Facts and it will tell you. Bonnie [coconut_oil_ open_forum] Vitamin E and VCO > > I have a question for the group and I hope to be enlightened. > > I am health conscious and I have learned of the benefits of VCO and I > learned a lot from this group.I would like to try it and have my own > personal experience to share. I am taking Vitamin E 800 IU everyday, > for I believe that it is one of the best antioxidant our body can have. > > Will the Vitamin E in the VCO be enough for me to take VCO only as my > source of the said vitamin and just take VCO alone? How much VCO will > I then take? > > MVillena > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2008 Report Share Posted February 18, 2008 Bonnie, Thanks for clarifying, but I have to say I am more confused. I check on the coconut research center site http://www.coconutresearchcenter.org/nutrition.pdf I have to say you are right this time, that there is almost minimal amount of Vitamin E in coconut oil. Palm Oil has 15.94 mg/100 grams oil, Palm Kernel Oil has 3.81 mg/100 grams oil, and Coconut Oil has 0.09 mg/100 grams oil. In comparison from the data presented, Palm oil has 117.11X more Vitamin E, and Palm Kernel Oil has 42.44X more Vitamin E compared to that of the Vitamin E amount in Coconut oil. I am more confused now. The data presented here is from the USDA database. ANH-VCO made a substantial claim on this issue which is otherwise and contrary to the data presented. As I understand, the process of extracting the oil makes the difference, as has been discussed here extensively by an ANH producer. Making it " absolutely no heat " , I have to presume(and as I was convinced) retains the Vitamin E. I am willing to pay for a higher price, for I aim for health, as most of us here. But, its easy making " claims " where there is no substantial evidence to back up such. If there is, what standard was followed? Did the process made the difference? Was the amount of Vitamin E that significant to warrant such claims? I am a consumer, and when it comes to my health, I am very critical. It is in my opinion that I deserve some truth around here, not confusion. MVillena > > Hello: > > VCO has almost NONE Vitamin E, Palm Kernel Oil has a wee bit more HOWEVER Red Palm Oil has about 5 times more. > > Hope this helps, > Bonnie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 Hi again, perhaps you could send us all the website, showing the claims made by this company and we can take a look for ouselves? Bonnie Re: Vitamin E and VCO Bonnie, Thanks for clarifying, but I have to say I am more confused. I check on the coconut research center site http://www.coconutresearchcenter.org/nutrition.pdf I have to say you are right this time, that there is almost minimal amount of Vitamin E in coconut oil. Palm Oil has 15.94 mg/100 grams oil, Palm Kernel Oil has 3.81 mg/100 grams oil, and Coconut Oil has 0.09 mg/100 grams oil. In comparison from the data presented, Palm oil has 117.11X more Vitamin E, and Palm Kernel Oil has 42.44X more Vitamin E compared to that of the Vitamin E amount in Coconut oil. I am more confused now. The data presented here is from the USDA database. ANH-VCO made a substantial claim on this issue which is otherwise and contrary to the data presented. As I understand, the process of extracting the oil makes the difference, as has been discussed here extensively by an ANH producer. Making it " absolutely no heat " , I have to presume(and as I was convinced) retains the Vitamin E. I am willing to pay for a higher price, for I aim for health, as most of us here. But, its easy making " claims " where there is no substantial evidence to back up such. If there is, what standard was followed? Did the process made the difference? Was the amount of Vitamin E that significant to warrant such claims? I am a consumer, and when it comes to my health, I am very critical. It is in my opinion that I deserve some truth around here, not confusion. MVillena > > Hello: > > VCO has almost NONE Vitamin E, Palm Kernel Oil has a wee bit more HOWEVER Red Palm Oil has about 5 times more. > > Hope this helps, > Bonnie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 Virgin Coconut Oil has very miniscule vitamin E. This vitamin is lost if processed with heat. It is not vitamin E that we are after in the coconut oil but the lauric acid that keeps our body healthier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 Why don't you ask the people you buy VCO from for details of their oil? As I pointed out in an earlier post, you would need to drink GALLONS of VCO per day to get the level of Vitamin E you want to take. Is the oil you use significantly higher in E than the USDA database claims? If so, by how much? If the VCO you have been buying contains 10 times more e than other oils, you would still need to take far far more VCO than humans normally ingest. To my knowledge, there is NO natural vegetable, herb, or nut which would get you anywhere near the 800 IU you are looking for. Why do you want all sorts of independent (expensive) labs to chase down which oil processes contain more E, when the amount of E in coconuts is so miniscule? Who bears the cost of that testing? Eventually the VCO consumers pay for it. I, fo one, would rather not have my VCO go up in price because of research which has no practical application. Alobar On 2/19/08, mvillena48 <mvillena48@...> wrote: > Mam, > > What is the basis of your statement? How small is a " small smount " , > (your words), and how big is big amount? What is your point of > reference? What is the standard? Was any study done to support or > substantiate your claims? > > How did you know that the other VCO extraction process did not contain > Vitamin E? Did they subject their VCO to a test? Was there a point of > comparison? What was your sampling size?, meaning how many Vitamin E > test results from other process of extraction of VCO did you compare > your value? Was it significant? > > I am simply exercising the third consumer right, which is " THE RIGHT > TO INFORMATION " . The right to be protected against dishonest or > misleading advertising or labelling and the right to be given the > facts and information needed to make an informed choice. > > I hope to be enlightened in this matter. > MVillena > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 Back when I first started using VCO, it gave me " catch in the throat " which the company claimes was just my body detoxing. I later discovered that catch-in-the-throat meant the oil was going bad. Needless to say, I never bought that oil again. Since then I have bought half a dozen different brands of VCO and never once experiences catch-in-the-throat, even when I used to have the cash to buy the oil in 5 gallon quantity, so the opened container was sitting in my warm kitchen for several years. I have not done any formal research into how much E is needed to preserve coconut oil. When I have an opened bottle of SJW (St.'s Wort) oil sitting around for a year or more, I open up one vitamin E gelcap and add it to the oil, and that seems to suffice. Alobar On 2/19/08, mvillena48 <mvillena48@...> wrote: > Alobar, > > Thank you. I did my own computation and come up with the same figure. > > > I was made to believe, from the numerous postings, that Vitamin E in > ANH-VCO a big factor. the reason it is more expensive. > > Did you happen to know from your researches how much Vitamin E is > needed for it to be an effective preservative for the VCO? Was the > claims based of facts? > > MVillena > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 I have to say something about this: ANH-VCO, or Absolutely No Heat VCO is a bit misleading, it is simply " hype " or people behind it has absolutely no idea what " Physic " is all about, or unless the coconuts and the VCO producing process are naturally outdoor and from the Great White North. Typical temperature where coconut trees and coconuts is about 30C to 35C (about 95F-100F) which is a lot of heat, and when comes to shipping across the sea in a container, the temperature inside contaniner is more than often is up to 40C-50C (about 105F-120F). There are Hi-Tech VCO producing processes where temperature is typically room temperature such as: Centrifuge and Heat-Pump, ... which should claim as No Heat but they don't, then why you with the " ANH " . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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