Re: Re: Coconut Water for Cataracts

[Guest guest]

It is coconut water

Jeanne

[Guest guest]

speaking of coconut water.........I have a friend we want to try this on. Can I

just use a coconut from the co-op? Hopefully organic? But who knows how old it

is. Or do I need to find a young one?

Jeanne

www.rachelsvinyard.org

[Guest guest]

I think it has to be a young coconut not the hairy hard shell kind.But you

should be able to find one at a co-op.

IN NC

jeanne_simons@... wrote:

speaking of coconut water.........I have a friend we want to try this on. Can

I just use a coconut from the co-op? Hopefully organic? But who knows how old

it is. Or do I need to find a young one?

Jeanne

www.rachelsvinyard.org

[Guest guest]

At this time I don't even know if I can get CW here in Sweden - I have

been searching the net to no avail and as it is Easter everything is

closed so I can't check out the ethnic stores yet either. However as a

newbie to the 'tree of life' I am trying to find out as much as I can.

It would be wonderful for me if there were benefits to be had by using a

CW eye wash. For years I have had trouble with my eyes. The Doctors say

it is a question of heredity, the symptoms are bllod shot eyes,

sensitivity to light, dryness at night leading to pain, and runny eyes

at other times. At the moment I spend a fortune on 'false tears' and

that doesn't help much.

If I find CW here - are there any specifications I should be looking

for, or any types or versions to be avoided.

Thank you

KJ

Ligia Lepe wrote:

> Thank you for the info.

>

> I would like to know more about the uses and benefits of the coconut

> water. Right now I am drinking the water in the mornings and then I

> eat the meat. It actually make me feel full.

>

> Any info in my way is greatly appreciated.

>

> Lepe

>

>

>

>

>

>> I remember seeing something about the effect of fresh coconut water on

>> cataracts. Does anyone have any information about using the water to

>>

> prevent

>

>> or treat cataracts.

>> Also is there any info about the effect of VCO on cataracts.

>> Thanks in advance for any info.

>> Cheers, Doug

>>

>>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

KJ, you might want to look into using VCO for your eyes. It has been my first

aid to any irritations on my eyes, and I used it once successfully to stop the

onset of sore eyes. I think Murray, a member of this list, uses VCO also

for his eye dryness and irritation. If you try this, I suggest you use a VCO

with zero peroxide value, and well as low acid value (in terms of free fatty

acod content).

Tony

Karl Järnhammer <jernhammer@...> wrote:

At this time I don't even know if I can get CW here in Sweden - I have

been searching the net to no avail and as it is Easter everything is

closed so I can't check out the ethnic stores yet either. However as a

newbie to the 'tree of life' I am trying to find out as much as I can.

It would be wonderful for me if there were benefits to be had by using a

CW eye wash. For years I have had trouble with my eyes. The Doctors say

it is a question of heredity, the symptoms are bllod shot eyes,

sensitivity to light, dryness at night leading to pain, and runny eyes

at other times. At the moment I spend a fortune on 'false tears' and

that doesn't help much.

If I find CW here - are there any specifications I should be looking

for, or any types or versions to be avoided.

Thank you

KJ

Ligia Lepe wrote:

> Thank you for the info.

>

> I would like to know more about the uses and benefits of the coconut

> water. Right now I am drinking the water in the mornings and then I

> eat the meat. It actually make me feel full.

>

> Any info in my way is greatly appreciated.

>

> Lepe

>

>

>

>

>

>> I remember seeing something about the effect of fresh coconut water on

>> cataracts. Does anyone have any information about using the water to

>>

> prevent

>

>> or treat cataracts.

>> Also is there any info about the effect of VCO on cataracts.

>> Thanks in advance for any info.

>> Cheers, Doug

>>

>>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks

I do not have any visible indication of cataracts. I was asking for a

friend, whose mother in the Philippines has cataracts and serious diabetes.

I have been using VCO, 3 drops in each eye, nightly to overcome my serious

dry eye problems related to working 40+ years in polluted Pulp and Paper

Mills. Results over the past year have been phenomenal.

Cheers, Doug

Re: Coconut Water for Cataracts

>

> I remember seeing something about the effect of fresh coconut water

> on cataracts. Does anyone have any information about using the

> water to prevent or treat cataracts.

" A Traditional method for treating cataract involves the use of

coconut water. Several drops of coconut water are put into the eyes, a

hot damp washcloth is placed over the eyes, the patient then lies down

with the washcloth in place for 10 minutes. I know of people getting

good results with this procedure. Perhaps part of the reason it may

work is due to the antioxidant effect of coconut water. Cataracts are

caused by oxidation so the antioxidant effect of the water might be of

some help. " p.148, Coconut Cures, Bruce Fife

> Also is there any info about the effect of VCO on cataracts.

Couldn't find anything about this. Heard B2 is good though.

-vanessa

.... may need this information one day

[Guest guest]

Dear Karl,

Greetings from the Philippines ! I convey my empathy on your eye problem for

years.

We know men are not God, hence not perfect or does not have always the remedy

to human imperfections, inherited or acquired. This situation could be true to

physicians you've consulted in your case. Do you get me right ?

Talking about coconut ----- the tree-of-life which produces the nut which has

one of the highest natural lauric fatty acid (C12), medium chain triglyceride

that is naturally saturated, stable, healthy for both topical use and ingestion.

Current knowledge strongly indicates that the oil is antimicrobial, meaning the

organic and healthy virgin coconut oil or VCO (extracted from the nut's

freshmeat via the coconut milk (pure cream and water-diluted cream) effectively

controls virus, bacteria, fungus and pathogenic yeast. Dr Bruce Fife, N.D.

(c/obruce@... should be consulted to confirm this

position on the matter, if you wish.

Thus, if I may suggest, why not try on your problematic eyes the VCO ( most

likely this now available in your place if not I understand there are outlets in

the U.K. as VCO has become popular in recent years. The coconut milk may not

have an immediate effect as the lauric acid in the milk will have to converted

to the monolaurin yet to be effective. Initially, few drops, then later

increase the daily application as deemed applicable for you.

Well, before you try my suggestion, don't fail to contact Dr Fife and others

to give you higher confidence on the matter.

All the best and God Bless !

Sev Magat

Karl Järnhammer <jernhammer@...> wrote:

At this time I don't even know if I can get CW here in Sweden - I have

been searching the net to no avail and as it is Easter everything is

closed so I can't check out the ethnic stores yet either. However as a

newbie to the 'tree of life' I am trying to find out as much as I can.

It would be wonderful for me if there were benefits to be had by using a

CW eye wash. For years I have had trouble with my eyes. The Doctors say

it is a question of heredity, the symptoms are bllod shot eyes,

sensitivity to light, dryness at night leading to pain, and runny eyes

at other times. At the moment I spend a fortune on 'false tears' and

that doesn't help much.

If I find CW here - are there any specifications I should be looking

for, or any types or versions to be avoided.

Thank you

KJ

Ligia Lepe wrote:

> Thank you for the info.

>

> I would like to know more about the uses and benefits of the coconut

> water. Right now I am drinking the water in the mornings and then I

> eat the meat. It actually make me feel full.

>

> Any info in my way is greatly appreciated.

>

> Lepe

>

>

>

>

>

>> I remember seeing something about the effect of fresh coconut water on

>> cataracts. Does anyone have any information about using the water to

>>

> prevent

>

>> or treat cataracts.

>> Also is there any info about the effect of VCO on cataracts.

>> Thanks in advance for any info.

>> Cheers, Doug

>>

>>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Again, my wife gained her peripheral vision (lost due to glaucoma)by using

coconut oil in the eyes for 2 weeks. She has been putting cosop 5 mg drops

in her eyes for 30 years.

bob

Re: Re: Coconut Water for Cataracts

Dear Karl,

Greetings from the Philippines ! I convey my empathy on your eye problem

for years.

We know men are not God, hence not perfect or does not have always the

remedy to human imperfections, inherited or acquired. This situation could

be true to physicians you've consulted in your case. Do you get me right ?

Talking about coconut ----- the tree-of-life which produces the nut which

has one of the highest natural lauric fatty acid (C12), medium chain

triglyceride that is naturally saturated, stable, healthy for both topical

use and ingestion. Current knowledge strongly indicates that the oil is

antimicrobial, meaning the organic and healthy virgin coconut oil or VCO

(extracted from the nut's freshmeat via the coconut milk (pure cream and

water-diluted cream) effectively controls virus, bacteria, fungus and

pathogenic yeast. Dr Bruce Fife, N.D. (c/obruce@...

should be consulted to confirm this position on the matter, if you wish.

Thus, if I may suggest, why not try on your problematic eyes the VCO (

most likely this now available in your place if not I understand there are

outlets in the U.K. as VCO has become popular in recent years. The coconut

milk may not have an immediate effect as the lauric acid in the milk will

have to converted to the monolaurin yet to be effective. Initially, few

drops, then later increase the daily application as deemed applicable for

you.

Well, before you try my suggestion, don't fail to contact Dr Fife and

others to give you higher confidence on the matter.

All the best and God Bless !

Sev Magat

Karl Järnhammer <jernhammer@...> wrote:

At this time I don't even know if I can get CW here in Sweden - I

have

been searching the net to no avail and as it is Easter everything is

closed so I can't check out the ethnic stores yet either. However as a

newbie to the 'tree of life' I am trying to find out as much as I can.

It would be wonderful for me if there were benefits to be had by using a

CW eye wash. For years I have had trouble with my eyes. The Doctors say

it is a question of heredity, the symptoms are bllod shot eyes,

sensitivity to light, dryness at night leading to pain, and runny eyes

at other times. At the moment I spend a fortune on 'false tears' and

that doesn't help much.

If I find CW here - are there any specifications I should be looking

for, or any types or versions to be avoided.

Thank you

KJ

Ligia Lepe wrote:

> Thank you for the info.

>

> I would like to know more about the uses and benefits of the coconut

> water. Right now I am drinking the water in the mornings and then I

> eat the meat. It actually make me feel full.

>

> Any info in my way is greatly appreciated.

>

> Lepe

>

>

>

>

>

>> I remember seeing something about the effect of fresh coconut water on

>> cataracts. Does anyone have any information about using the water to

>>

> prevent

>

>> or treat cataracts.

>> Also is there any info about the effect of VCO on cataracts.

>> Thanks in advance for any info.

>> Cheers, Doug

>>

>>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Tony,

Thank you for your response. Until such time as I can import directly

from you, you may recall that the only VCO I can get here is the USD 30

for a 500ml jar. I have mailed the importer/agent of this product called

'Cocosa' to ask them about the peroxide and acidic values though it

would not surprise me if I don't get a straight answer.

However, it appears that several people on the list are in fact using

VCO drops in their eyes without harm, yourself included. The CO I have

at the moment is solid even in room temperature (19c) here, though I

suppose a gentle heated water bath would liquefy it to enable the

application of drops, (Maybe the VCO is better). So, when the shops open

again tomorrow I will purchase a jar of the expensive stuff.

So, what do you suggest, a couple of drops per eye every evening, more

often perhaps?

Best wishes

KJ

AGPacific Nutriceutical wrote:

> KJ, you might want to look into using VCO for your eyes. It has been my first

aid to any irritations on my eyes, and I used it once successfully to stop the

onset of sore eyes. I think Murray, a member of this list, uses VCO also

for his eye dryness and irritation. If you try this, I suggest you use a VCO

with zero peroxide value, and well as low acid value (in terms of free fatty

acod content).

>

> Tony

>

> Karl Järnhammer <jernhammer@...> wrote:

> At this time I don't even know if I can get CW here in Sweden - I

have

> been searching the net to no avail and as it is Easter everything is

> closed so I can't check out the ethnic stores yet either. However as a

> newbie to the 'tree of life' I am trying to find out as much as I can.

>

> It would be wonderful for me if there were benefits to be had by using a

> CW eye wash. For years I have had trouble with my eyes. The Doctors say

> it is a question of heredity, the symptoms are bllod shot eyes,

> sensitivity to light, dryness at night leading to pain, and runny eyes

> at other times. At the moment I spend a fortune on 'false tears' and

> that doesn't help much.

>

> If I find CW here - are there any specifications I should be looking

> for, or any types or versions to be avoided.

>

> Thank you

> KJ

>

> Ligia Lepe wrote:

>

>> Thank you for the info.

>>

>> I would like to know more about the uses and benefits of the coconut

>> water. Right now I am drinking the water in the mornings and then I

>> eat the meat. It actually make me feel full.

>>

>> Any info in my way is greatly appreciated.

>>

>> Lepe

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>> I remember seeing something about the effect of fresh coconut water on

>>> cataracts. Does anyone have any information about using the water to

>>>

>>>

>> prevent

>>

>>

>>> or treat cataracts.

>>> Also is there any info about the effect of VCO on cataracts.

>>> Thanks in advance for any info.

>>> Cheers, Doug

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>> ------------------------------------

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Severino Magat wrote:

> Dear Karl,

>

> Greetings from the Philippines ! I convey my empathy on your eye problem

for years.

>

Thank you - that's very nice and indeed much appreciated. Greetings from

a frozen North!

>

> We know men are not God, hence not perfect or does not have always the

remedy to human imperfections, inherited or acquired. This situation could be

true to physicians you've consulted in your case. Do you get me right ?

Yes, I can say with confidence that I fully understand your generous

point of view.

> Talking about coconut ----- the tree-of-life which produces the nut which

has one of the highest natural lauric fatty acid (C12), medium chain

triglyceride that is naturally saturated, stable, healthy for both topical use

and ingestion. Current knowledge strongly indicates that the oil is

antimicrobial, meaning the organic and healthy virgin coconut oil or VCO

(extracted from the nut's freshmeat via the coconut milk (pure cream and

water-diluted cream) effectively controls virus, bacteria, fungus and pathogenic

yeast. Dr Bruce Fife, N.D. (c/obruce@... should be

consulted to confirm this position on the matter, if you wish.

>

A good suggestion - I have written to the mail address you supplied

above and I will let the list know if I get a reply.

>

> Thus, if I may suggest, why not try on your problematic eyes the VCO ( most

likely this now available in your place if not I understand there are outlets in

the U.K. as VCO has become popular in recent years. The coconut milk may not

have an immediate effect as the lauric acid in the milk will have to converted

to the monolaurin yet to be effective. Initially, few drops, then later

increase the daily application as deemed applicable for you.

>

Excellent advice in so far as I am capable of judging the issue. I will

proceed once I can get hold of a suitably pure VCO.

>

> Well, before you try my suggestion, don't fail to contact Dr Fife and others

to give you higher confidence on the matter.

>

OK - but now I am in a hurry :-) .

>

> All the best and God Bless !

>

Thank you Sev, and all the best to you too.

/KJ

>

>

>

> Karl Järnhammer <jernhammer@...> wrote:

> At this time I don't even know if I can get CW here in Sweden - I

have

> been searching the net to no avail and as it is Easter everything is

> closed so I can't check out the ethnic stores yet either. However as a

> newbie to the 'tree of life' I am trying to find out as much as I can.

>

> It would be wonderful for me if there were benefits to be had by using a

> CW eye wash. For years I have had trouble with my eyes. The Doctors say

> it is a question of heredity, the symptoms are bllod shot eyes,

> sensitivity to light, dryness at night leading to pain, and runny eyes

> at other times. At the moment I spend a fortune on 'false tears' and

> that doesn't help much.

>

> If I find CW here - are there any specifications I should be looking

> for, or any types or versions to be avoided.

>

> Thank you

> KJ

>

> Ligia Lepe wrote:

>

>> Thank you for the info.

>>

>> I would like to know more about the uses and benefits of the coconut

>> water. Right now I am drinking the water in the mornings and then I

>> eat the meat. It actually make me feel full.

>>

>> Any info in my way is greatly appreciated.

>>

>> Lepe

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>> I remember seeing something about the effect of fresh coconut water on

>>> cataracts. Does anyone have any information about using the water to

>>>

>>>

>> prevent

>>

>>

>>> or treat cataracts.

>>> Also is there any info about the effect of VCO on cataracts.

>>> Thanks in advance for any info.

>>> Cheers, Doug

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>> ------------------------------------

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Bob

That is amazing. On searching for Cosop I keep being referred to Cosopt

and there I find no connection to the 'tree of life' /(*COSOPT

DESCRIPTION: *DORZOLAMIDE - TIMOLOL - EYE DROPS (door-ZOHL-uh-mide WITH

TIE-moh-lohl). /http://www.info-pharm.com/cosopt//

/Can you elucidate?/

/Thank you for sharing this.

Best wishes

KJ

Ratliff wrote:

> Again, my wife gained her peripheral vision (lost due to glaucoma)by using

> coconut oil in the eyes for 2 weeks. She has been putting cosop 5 mg drops

> in her eyes for 30 years.

>

> bob

>

> Re: Re: Coconut Water for Cataracts

>

>

> Dear Karl,

>

> Greetings from the Philippines ! I convey my empathy on your eye problem

> for years.

>

> We know men are not God, hence not perfect or does not have always the

> remedy to human imperfections, inherited or acquired. This situation could

> be true to physicians you've consulted in your case. Do you get me right ?

>

> Talking about coconut ----- the tree-of-life which produces the nut which

> has one of the highest natural lauric fatty acid (C12), medium chain

> triglyceride that is naturally saturated, stable, healthy for both topical

> use and ingestion. Current knowledge strongly indicates that the oil is

> antimicrobial, meaning the organic and healthy virgin coconut oil or VCO

> (extracted from the nut's freshmeat via the coconut milk (pure cream and

> water-diluted cream) effectively controls virus, bacteria, fungus and

> pathogenic yeast. Dr Bruce Fife, N.D. (c/obruce@...

> should be consulted to confirm this position on the matter, if you wish.

>

> Thus, if I may suggest, why not try on your problematic eyes the VCO (

> most likely this now available in your place if not I understand there are

> outlets in the U.K. as VCO has become popular in recent years. The coconut

> milk may not have an immediate effect as the lauric acid in the milk will

> have to converted to the monolaurin yet to be effective. Initially, few

> drops, then later increase the daily application as deemed applicable for

> you.

>

> Well, before you try my suggestion, don't fail to contact Dr Fife and

> others to give you higher confidence on the matter.

>

> All the best and God Bless !

>

> Sev Magat

>

> Karl Järnhammer <jernhammer@...> wrote:

> At this time I don't even know if I can get CW here in Sweden - I

> have

> been searching the net to no avail and as it is Easter everything is

> closed so I can't check out the ethnic stores yet either. However as a

> newbie to the 'tree of life' I am trying to find out as much as I can.

>

> It would be wonderful for me if there were benefits to be had by using a

> CW eye wash. For years I have had trouble with my eyes. The Doctors say

> it is a question of heredity, the symptoms are bllod shot eyes,

> sensitivity to light, dryness at night leading to pain, and runny eyes

> at other times. At the moment I spend a fortune on 'false tears' and

> that doesn't help much.

>

> If I find CW here - are there any specifications I should be looking

> for, or any types or versions to be avoided.

>

> Thank you

> KJ

>

> Ligia Lepe wrote:

>

>> Thank you for the info.

>>

>> I would like to know more about the uses and benefits of the coconut

>> water. Right now I am drinking the water in the mornings and then I

>> eat the meat. It actually make me feel full.

>>

>> Any info in my way is greatly appreciated.

>>

>> Lepe

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>> I remember seeing something about the effect of fresh coconut water on

>>> cataracts. Does anyone have any information about using the water to

>>>

>>>

>> prevent

>>

>>

>>> or treat cataracts.

>>> Also is there any info about the effect of VCO on cataracts.

>>> Thanks in advance for any info.

>>> Cheers, Doug

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>> ------------------------------------

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

I did not say there was any connection to tree of life. I said my wife took

and is taking cosopt for her glaucoma.

BOB

Re: Re: Coconut Water for Cataracts

>

>

> Dear Karl,

>

> Greetings from the Philippines ! I convey my empathy on your eye

> problem

> for years.

>

> We know men are not God, hence not perfect or does not have always the

> remedy to human imperfections, inherited or acquired. This situation

> could

> be true to physicians you've consulted in your case. Do you get me right ?

>

> Talking about coconut ----- the tree-of-life which produces the nut

> which

> has one of the highest natural lauric fatty acid (C12), medium chain

> triglyceride that is naturally saturated, stable, healthy for both topical

> use and ingestion. Current knowledge strongly indicates that the oil is

> antimicrobial, meaning the organic and healthy virgin coconut oil or VCO

> (extracted from the nut's freshmeat via the coconut milk (pure cream and

> water-diluted cream) effectively controls virus, bacteria, fungus and

> pathogenic yeast. Dr Bruce Fife, N.D. (c/obruce@...

> should be consulted to confirm this position on the matter, if you wish.

>

> Thus, if I may suggest, why not try on your problematic eyes the VCO (

> most likely this now available in your place if not I understand there are

> outlets in the U.K. as VCO has become popular in recent years. The

> coconut

> milk may not have an immediate effect as the lauric acid in the milk will

> have to converted to the monolaurin yet to be effective. Initially, few

> drops, then later increase the daily application as deemed applicable for

> you.

>

> Well, before you try my suggestion, don't fail to contact Dr Fife and

> others to give you higher confidence on the matter.

>

> All the best and God Bless !

>

> Sev Magat

>

> Karl Järnhammer <jernhammer@...> wrote:

> At this time I don't even know if I can get CW here in Sweden -

> I

> have

> been searching the net to no avail and as it is Easter everything is

> closed so I can't check out the ethnic stores yet either. However as a

> newbie to the 'tree of life' I am trying to find out as much as I can.

>

> It would be wonderful for me if there were benefits to be had by using a

> CW eye wash. For years I have had trouble with my eyes. The Doctors say

> it is a question of heredity, the symptoms are bllod shot eyes,

> sensitivity to light, dryness at night leading to pain, and runny eyes

> at other times. At the moment I spend a fortune on 'false tears' and

> that doesn't help much.

>

> If I find CW here - are there any specifications I should be looking

> for, or any types or versions to be avoided.

>

> Thank you

> KJ

>

> Ligia Lepe wrote:

>

>> Thank you for the info.

>>

>> I would like to know more about the uses and benefits of the coconut

>> water. Right now I am drinking the water in the mornings and then I

>> eat the meat. It actually make me feel full.

>>

>> Any info in my way is greatly appreciated.

>>

>> Lepe

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>> I remember seeing something about the effect of fresh coconut water on

>>> cataracts. Does anyone have any information about using the water to

>>>

>>>

>> prevent

>>

>>

>>> or treat cataracts.

>>> Also is there any info about the effect of VCO on cataracts.

>>> Thanks in advance for any info.

>>> Cheers, Doug

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>> ------------------------------------

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

What does VOC means?

Re: Coconut Water for Cataracts

Just in case the coconut oil does not do the job for cataracts.

I would like to let you know that there is a nutritional eyedrop my mum uses

for her cataracts..she does take VCO though internally..

these drops are called revital - eyes.

see www.ethos-success. com

we order one box and it lasts her about 5 weeks.

They make it for pets too!

thanks

ajd

[Guest guest]

Bob

I beg your pardon. I automatically assumed that as this list is entitled

'coconut oil open forum', that the discussion so far involved using

coconut product as eye drops, and that the product you mentioned was co

-sop (as you originally described it) the 'co' was for me indicative of

coconut - as in co-conut. So I was trying to understand the coconut or

'tree of life' connection.

Of course I have never heard of cocopt but I am very pleased that your

wife is gaining benefit from it.

I hope in my ignorance that I haven't caused you any embarrassment.

Best wishes

KJ

Ratliff wrote:

> I did not say there was any connection to tree of life. I said my wife took

> and is taking cosopt for her glaucoma.

> BOB

>

>

>

> Re: Re: Coconut Water for Cataracts

>>

>>

>> Dear Karl,

>>

>> Greetings from the Philippines ! I convey my empathy on your eye

>> problem

>> for years.

>>

>> We know men are not God, hence not perfect or does not have always the

>> remedy to human imperfections, inherited or acquired. This situation

>> could

>> be true to physicians you've consulted in your case. Do you get me right ?

>>

>> Talking about coconut ----- the tree-of-life which produces the nut

>> which

>> has one of the highest natural lauric fatty acid (C12), medium chain

>> triglyceride that is naturally saturated, stable, healthy for both topical

>> use and ingestion. Current knowledge strongly indicates that the oil is

>> antimicrobial, meaning the organic and healthy virgin coconut oil or VCO

>> (extracted from the nut's freshmeat via the coconut milk (pure cream and

>> water-diluted cream) effectively controls virus, bacteria, fungus and

>> pathogenic yeast. Dr Bruce Fife, N.D. (c/obruce@...

>> should be consulted to confirm this position on the matter, if you wish.

>>

>> Thus, if I may suggest, why not try on your problematic eyes the VCO (

>> most likely this now available in your place if not I understand there are

>> outlets in the U.K. as VCO has become popular in recent years. The

>> coconut

>> milk may not have an immediate effect as the lauric acid in the milk will

>> have to converted to the monolaurin yet to be effective. Initially, few

>> drops, then later increase the daily application as deemed applicable for

>> you.

>>

>> Well, before you try my suggestion, don't fail to contact Dr Fife and

>> others to give you higher confidence on the matter.

>>

>> All the best and God Bless !

>>

>> Sev Magat

>>

>> Karl Järnhammer <jernhammer@...> wrote:

>> At this time I don't even know if I can get CW here in Sweden -

>> I

>> have

>> been searching the net to no avail and as it is Easter everything is

>> closed so I can't check out the ethnic stores yet either. However as a

>> newbie to the 'tree of life' I am trying to find out as much as I can.

>>

>> It would be wonderful for me if there were benefits to be had by using a

>> CW eye wash. For years I have had trouble with my eyes. The Doctors say

>> it is a question of heredity, the symptoms are bllod shot eyes,

>> sensitivity to light, dryness at night leading to pain, and runny eyes

>> at other times. At the moment I spend a fortune on 'false tears' and

>> that doesn't help much.

>>

>> If I find CW here - are there any specifications I should be looking

>> for, or any types or versions to be avoided.

>>

>> Thank you

>> KJ

>>

>> Ligia Lepe wrote:

>>

>>

>>> Thank you for the info.

>>>

>>> I would like to know more about the uses and benefits of the coconut

>>> water. Right now I am drinking the water in the mornings and then I

>>> eat the meat. It actually make me feel full.

>>>

>>> Any info in my way is greatly appreciated.

>>>

>>> Lepe

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>> I remember seeing something about the effect of fresh coconut water on

>>>> cataracts. Does anyone have any information about using the water to

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>> prevent

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>> or treat cataracts.

>>>> Also is there any info about the effect of VCO on cataracts.

>>>> Thanks in advance for any info.

>>>> Cheers, Doug

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>> ------------------------------------

>>>

>>>

[Guest guest]

No problem.

Cosopt is an allopathic medicine. It has worked well for years but has not

stopped the progress of Glaucoma. Coconut oil restored her lost perherical

vision.

bob

Re: Re: Coconut Water for Cataracts

>>

>>

>> Dear Karl,

>>

>> Greetings from the Philippines ! I convey my empathy on your eye

>> problem

>> for years.

>>

>> We know men are not God, hence not perfect or does not have always the

>> remedy to human imperfections, inherited or acquired. This situation

>> could

>> be true to physicians you've consulted in your case. Do you get me right

>> ?

>>

>> Talking about coconut ----- the tree-of-life which produces the nut

>> which

>> has one of the highest natural lauric fatty acid (C12), medium chain

>> triglyceride that is naturally saturated, stable, healthy for both

>> topical

>> use and ingestion. Current knowledge strongly indicates that the oil is

>> antimicrobial, meaning the organic and healthy virgin coconut oil or VCO

>> (extracted from the nut's freshmeat via the coconut milk (pure cream and

>> water-diluted cream) effectively controls virus, bacteria, fungus and

>> pathogenic yeast. Dr Bruce Fife, N.D. (c/obruce@...

>> should be consulted to confirm this position on the matter, if you wish.

>>

>> Thus, if I may suggest, why not try on your problematic eyes the VCO (

>> most likely this now available in your place if not I understand there

>> are

>> outlets in the U.K. as VCO has become popular in recent years. The

>> coconut

>> milk may not have an immediate effect as the lauric acid in the milk will

>> have to converted to the monolaurin yet to be effective. Initially, few

>> drops, then later increase the daily application as deemed applicable for

>> you.

>>

>> Well, before you try my suggestion, don't fail to contact Dr Fife and

>> others to give you higher confidence on the matter.

>>

>> All the best and God Bless !

>>

>> Sev Magat

>>

>> Karl Järnhammer <jernhammer@...> wrote:

>> At this time I don't even know if I can get CW here in Sweden -

>> I

>> have

>> been searching the net to no avail and as it is Easter everything is

>> closed so I can't check out the ethnic stores yet either. However as a

>> newbie to the 'tree of life' I am trying to find out as much as I can.

>>

>> It would be wonderful for me if there were benefits to be had by using a

>> CW eye wash. For years I have had trouble with my eyes. The Doctors say

>> it is a question of heredity, the symptoms are bllod shot eyes,

>> sensitivity to light, dryness at night leading to pain, and runny eyes

>> at other times. At the moment I spend a fortune on 'false tears' and

>> that doesn't help much.

>>

>> If I find CW here - are there any specifications I should be looking

>> for, or any types or versions to be avoided.

>>

>> Thank you

>> KJ

>>

>> Ligia Lepe wrote:

>>

>>

>>> Thank you for the info.

>>>

>>> I would like to know more about the uses and benefits of the coconut

>>> water. Right now I am drinking the water in the mornings and then I

>>> eat the meat. It actually make me feel full.

>>>

>>> Any info in my way is greatly appreciated.

>>>

>>> Lepe

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>> I remember seeing something about the effect of fresh coconut water on

>>>> cataracts. Does anyone have any information about using the water to

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>> prevent

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>> or treat cataracts.

>>>> Also is there any info about the effect of VCO on cataracts.

>>>> Thanks in advance for any info.

>>>> Cheers, Doug

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>> ------------------------------------

>>>

>>>

[Guest guest]

Cosopt is an allopatic medicene. It has worked well for years but has not

stopped the progress of Glaucaoma. Coconut oil restored her losts perherical

vision.

bob

Re: Re: Coconut Water for Cataracts

>>

>>

>> Dear Karl,

>>

>> Greetings from the Philippines ! I convey my empathy on your eye

>> problem

>> for years.

>>

>> We know men are not God, hence not perfect or does not have always the

>> remedy to human imperfections, inherited or acquired. This situation

>> could

>> be true to physicians you've consulted in your case. Do you get me right

>> ?

>>

>> Talking about coconut ----- the tree-of-life which produces the nut

>> which

>> has one of the highest natural lauric fatty acid (C12), medium chain

>> triglyceride that is naturally saturated, stable, healthy for both

>> topical

>> use and ingestion. Current knowledge strongly indicates that the oil is

>> antimicrobial, meaning the organic and healthy virgin coconut oil or VCO

>> (extracted from the nut's freshmeat via the coconut milk (pure cream and

>> water-diluted cream) effectively controls virus, bacteria, fungus and

>> pathogenic yeast. Dr Bruce Fife, N.D. (c/obruce@...

>> should be consulted to confirm this position on the matter, if you wish.

>>

>> Thus, if I may suggest, why not try on your problematic eyes the VCO (

>> most likely this now available in your place if not I understand there

>> are

>> outlets in the U.K. as VCO has become popular in recent years. The

>> coconut

>> milk may not have an immediate effect as the lauric acid in the milk will

>> have to converted to the monolaurin yet to be effective. Initially, few

>> drops, then later increase the daily application as deemed applicable for

>> you.

>>

>> Well, before you try my suggestion, don't fail to contact Dr Fife and

>> others to give you higher confidence on the matter.

>>

>> All the best and God Bless !

>>

>> Sev Magat

>>

>> Karl Järnhammer <jernhammer@...> wrote:

>> At this time I don't even know if I can get CW here in Sweden -

>> I

>> have

>> been searching the net to no avail and as it is Easter everything is

>> closed so I can't check out the ethnic stores yet either. However as a

>> newbie to the 'tree of life' I am trying to find out as much as I can.

>>

>> It would be wonderful for me if there were benefits to be had by using a

>> CW eye wash. For years I have had trouble with my eyes. The Doctors say

>> it is a question of heredity, the symptoms are bllod shot eyes,

>> sensitivity to light, dryness at night leading to pain, and runny eyes

>> at other times. At the moment I spend a fortune on 'false tears' and

>> that doesn't help much.

>>

>> If I find CW here - are there any specifications I should be looking

>> for, or any types or versions to be avoided.

>>

>> Thank you

>> KJ

>>

>> Ligia Lepe wrote:

>>

>>

>>> Thank you for the info.

>>>

>>> I would like to know more about the uses and benefits of the coconut

>>> water. Right now I am drinking the water in the mornings and then I

>>> eat the meat. It actually make me feel full.

>>>

>>> Any info in my way is greatly appreciated.

>>>

>>> Lepe

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>> I remember seeing something about the effect of fresh coconut water on

>>>> cataracts. Does anyone have any information about using the water to

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>> prevent

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>> or treat cataracts.

>>>> Also is there any info about the effect of VCO on cataracts.

>>>> Thanks in advance for any info.

>>>> Cheers, Doug

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>> ------------------------------------

>>>

>>>

[Guest guest]

Actually there is no such thing as virgin coconut oil. It is a term taken

from olive oil. Virgin olive oil is the first press of oil. Coconut oil has

only one press. It is marketing hype.

bob

Re: Coconut Water for Cataracts

>

> Just in case the coconut oil does not do the job for

> cataracts.

>

> I would like to let you know that there is a nutritional eyedrop my mum

> uses for her cataracts..she does take VCO though internally..

>

> these drops are called revital - eyes.

>

> see www.ethos-success. com

>

> we order one box and it lasts her about 5 weeks.

>

> They make it for pets too!

>

> thanks

>

> ajd

>

>

[Guest guest]

Karl

I, to, have had serious dry eye problems for many, many years, resulting

from working, since 1957 in badly polluted working environments, primarily

cooking,bleaching and chemical generating and recovery sections of kraft

pulpmills. Some morning my eyelids would be glued to my eyeballs as with

super glue. After many years of trial and error I tried VCO. What an amazing

relief. 3 props in each eye literally eliminated the problem over a year

ago. Now I can even miss using it a night here and there without much

discomfort.

Cheers.Doug

Re: Re: Coconut Water for Cataracts

> At this time I don't even know if I can get CW here in Sweden - I have

> been searching the net to no avail and as it is Easter everything is

> closed so I can't check out the ethnic stores yet either. However as a

> newbie to the 'tree of life' I am trying to find out as much as I can.

>

> It would be wonderful for me if there were benefits to be had by using a

> CW eye wash. For years I have had trouble with my eyes. The Doctors say

> it is a question of heredity, the symptoms are bllod shot eyes,

> sensitivity to light, dryness at night leading to pain, and runny eyes

> at other times. At the moment I spend a fortune on 'false tears' and

> that doesn't help much.

>

> If I find CW here - are there any specifications I should be looking

> for, or any types or versions to be avoided.

>

> Thank you

> KJ

>

> Ligia Lepe wrote:

>> Thank you for the info.

>>

>> I would like to know more about the uses and benefits of the coconut

>> water. Right now I am drinking the water in the mornings and then I

>> eat the meat. It actually make me feel full.

>>

>> Any info in my way is greatly appreciated.

>>

>> Lepe

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>> I remember seeing something about the effect of fresh coconut water on

>>> cataracts. Does anyone have any information about using the water to

>>>

>> prevent

>>

>>> or treat cataracts.

>>> Also is there any info about the effect of VCO on cataracts.

>>> Thanks in advance for any info.

>>> Cheers, Doug

>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>>

>> ------------------------------------

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

I think what you mean here is that there is no such thing as " Extra Virgin "

coconut oil. At least this is what i have found through all my research is that

coconut oil can be " virgin " but NOT " extra virgin " ..that was a phrased borrowed

from Olive Oil. Have I run accrossed incorrect information here?

>>>Actually there is no such thing as virgin coconut oil. It is a term taken

[Guest guest]

Re: Coconut Water for Cataracts

Hi

When you speak of putting VCO drops in your eyes, how do you handle

the VCO in the cold weather?

Read below.

Do you keep some heated, so that you can

use it in a dropper?

Put solid coconut oil on you body and it melts. Very simple really.

Does the VCO have any contra-indications with

other homeopathic and/or allopathic drops that are being used?

no

Does

the VCO blurr your vision

no

so that you use them only when sleeping?

Or, can you use them in the AM before you start your day?

Thanks for your help.

Love and Laughter,

Anne

> >>

> >>> I remember seeing something about the effect of fresh coconut

water on

> >>> cataracts. Does anyone have any information about using the water to

> >>>

> >> prevent

> >>

> >>> or treat cataracts.

> >>> Also is there any info about the effect of VCO on cataracts.

> >>> Thanks in advance for any info.

> >>> Cheers, Doug

> >>>

> >>>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> ------------------------------------

> >>

> >>

[Guest guest]

Re: Coconut Water for Cataracts

Hi Doug,

<When you speak of putting VCO drops in your eyes, how do you handle

the VCO in the cold weather? Do you keep some heated, so that you can

use it in a dropper?

I always carry a dropper bottle (2 oz) in my pocket as I use it in my coffee

and tea and the pocket is warm enough.

<Does the VCO have any contra-indications with

other homeopathic and/or allopathic drops that are being used?

I have no idea as I have not used any chemical drugs/medicines/OTC since

'1977. Not even an asprin. Someone else may be able to answer your question

but my feeling is that there would be no problem.

<Does the VCO blurr your vision so that you use them only when sleeping?

Or, can you use them in the AM before you start your day?

I only use them atnight as the only time I have a problem is the glued

effect on waking. After risi8ng I have to wash/flush out the oil slick which

does have a slight blurring effect.

<Thanks for your help.

You are welcome. Always glad to help spread the good, natural treatments

word.

Cheers, doug

<Love and Laughter,

Anne

> >>

> >>> I remember seeing something about the effect of fresh coconut

water on

> >>> cataracts. Does anyone have any information about using the water to

> >>>

> >> prevent

> >>

> >>> or treat cataracts.

> >>> Also is there any info about the effect of VCO on cataracts.

> >>> Thanks in advance for any info.

> >>> Cheers, Doug

> >>>

> >>>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> ------------------------------------

> >>

> >>

[Guest guest]

Some manufacturers use " Extra Virgin " to mean non-use of heat in extracting VCO

from coconut meat (others use " A No Heat " (ANH) to mean this). I use it to mean

non-use of heat and high freshness standard. I think others use " Extra Virgin "

to boost marketability of the product. If you find the phrase in the product you

are to buy, I think it is good to find out why.

Tony

TealCamaroGirl <TealCamaroGirl@...> wrote:

I think what you mean here is that there is no such thing as " Extra

Virgin " coconut oil. At least this is what i have found through all my research

is that coconut oil can be " virgin " but NOT " extra virgin " ..that was a phrased

borrowed from Olive Oil. Have I run accrossed incorrect information here?

>>>Actually there is no such thing as virgin coconut oil. It is a term taken

[Guest guest]

KJ,

I suggest you do not use your CO for this, it might be RBD. Still, I wont use

a VCO on my eyes if I have no idea of its peroxide value.

Regarding how to use it, I might start putting one drop on each eye at least

an hour before bed, and if result is okay, I will add another drop before going

to bed.

Tony

Karl Järnhammer <jernhammer@...> wrote:

Tony,

Thank you for your response. Until such time as I can import directly

from you, you may recall that the only VCO I can get here is the USD 30

for a 500ml jar. I have mailed the importer/agent of this product called

'Cocosa' to ask them about the peroxide and acidic values though it

would not surprise me if I don't get a straight answer.

However, it appears that several people on the list are in fact using

VCO drops in their eyes without harm, yourself included. The CO I have

at the moment is solid even in room temperature (19c) here, though I

suppose a gentle heated water bath would liquefy it to enable the

application of drops, (Maybe the VCO is better). So, when the shops open

again tomorrow I will purchase a jar of the expensive stuff.

So, what do you suggest, a couple of drops per eye every evening, more

often perhaps?

Best wishes

KJ

AGPacific Nutriceutical wrote:

> KJ, you might want to look into using VCO for your eyes. It has been my first

aid to any irritations on my eyes, and I used it once successfully to stop the

onset of sore eyes. I think Murray, a member of this list, uses VCO also

for his eye dryness and irritation. If you try this, I suggest you use a VCO

with zero peroxide value, and well as low acid value (in terms of free fatty

acod content).

>

> Tony

>

> Karl Järnhammer <jernhammer@...> wrote:

> At this time I don't even know if I can get CW here in Sweden - I have

> been searching the net to no avail and as it is Easter everything is

> closed so I can't check out the ethnic stores yet either. However as a

> newbie to the 'tree of life' I am trying to find out as much as I can.

>

> It would be wonderful for me if there were benefits to be had by using a

> CW eye wash. For years I have had trouble with my eyes. The Doctors say

> it is a question of heredity, the symptoms are bllod shot eyes,

> sensitivity to light, dryness at night leading to pain, and runny eyes

> at other times. At the moment I spend a fortune on 'false tears' and

> that doesn't help much.

>

> If I find CW here - are there any specifications I should be looking

> for, or any types or versions to be avoided.

>

> Thank you

> KJ

>

> Ligia Lepe wrote:

>

>> Thank you for the info.

>>

>> I would like to know more about the uses and benefits of the coconut

>> water. Right now I am drinking the water in the mornings and then I

>> eat the meat. It actually make me feel full.

>>

>> Any info in my way is greatly appreciated.

>>

>> Lepe

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>> I remember seeing something about the effect of fresh coconut water on

>>> cataracts. Does anyone have any information about using the water to

>>>

>>>

>> prevent

>>

>>

>>> or treat cataracts.

>>> Also is there any info about the effect of VCO on cataracts.

>>> Thanks in advance for any info.

>>> Cheers, Doug

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>> ------------------------------------

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

I have not tried the CO water yet but think I might to see if it will also

stop the gluing .

Cheers, Doug

Re: Coconut Water for Cataracts

> > >>

> > >>> I remember seeing something about the effect of fresh coconut

> water on

> > >>> cataracts. Does anyone have any information about using the

water to

> > >>>

> > >> prevent

> > >>

> > >>> or treat cataracts.

> > >>> Also is there any info about the effect of VCO on cataracts.

> > >>> Thanks in advance for any info.

> > >>> Cheers, Doug

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> ------------------------------------

> > >>

> > >>

[Guest guest]

Im just guessing , but I dont think you would get the same effect from canned or

processed coconut water. Heating done in the pasturization or canning process

would destroy alot of the natural enzymes .I beleive those enzymes are a large

part of the healing property for the eye treatment .But like I said Its a guess.

However if the coconut water has been processed so it wont spoil then it is

probably safe to put in your eye and If I had a cateract I would give it a

try.It might help.

IN NC

" mhill7.rm " <mhill7@...> wrote:

Dr. Fife's anecdote refers to fresh coconut water helping a lady with

cataracts. A couple of questions; Can what you buy in a container be

considered fresh? If you use coconut water from a container, will it

hurt you? I have been reluctant to try it as the stories refer to

fresh, i.e. straight out of a green coconut.

Mike

> >

> >Hi Doug . . . and everyone,

>

> So, is VCO or coconut water better to use in your eyes? Thanks for

> your interest and your replies.

>

> Love and Laughter,

> Anne

>

> > Re: Coconut Water for Cataracts

> >

> >

> > Hi Doug,

> >

> > handle

> > the VCO in the cold weather? Do you keep some heated, so that

you can

> > use it in a dropper?

> >

> > I always carry a dropper bottle (2 oz) in my pocket as I use it in

> my coffee

> > and tea and the pocket is warm enough.

> >

> > > > other homeopathic and/or allopathic drops that are being used?

> >

> > I have no idea as I have not used any chemical drugs/medicines/OTC

> since

> > '1977. Not even an asprin. Someone else may be able to answer your

> question

> > but my feeling is that there would be no problem.

> >

> > > sleeping?

> > Or, can you use them in the AM before you start your day?

> >

> > I only use them atnight as the only time I have a problem is the

glued

> > effect on waking. After risi8ng I have to wash/flush out the oil

> slick which

> > does have a slight blurring effect.

> >

> > > >

> > You are welcome. Always glad to help spread the good, natural

> treatments

> > word.

> > Cheers, doug

> >

> > > > Anne

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