Re: Alobar and Phytoestrogens+my hormones+VCO

November 30, 2008

I have never done a test for hormone levels. Neither bloodwork nor

saliva testing. I had marked your post so I could see if anyone

responded. So far, none that I have seen.

Alobar

On 11/28/08, Bonnie Cole <bonnieview@...> wrote:

> Alobar:

>

> You were saying that you were suspicious of the Phytoestrogens in Soy, I

> BELIEVE Coconut Oil is just as POTENT Hormone-wise as Soy but in a different

> way.

>

> I just got my bloodwork back and my hormone levels are THAT OF A FAR YOUNGER

> WOMAN, maybe about 40 years old and I am 65.

>

> In Dr. Fife's book The Coconut Oil Miracle, he says that VCO is SIMILAR to

> Pregnenolone (the Mother of all hormones) and he is right. Pregnenolone

> first makes DHEA which makes Androstenedione which makes Testosterone which

> makes Estradiol. In that order.

>

> And in that very order, my levels are very elevated after several months of

> using ONLY 2 tablespoons per day.

>

> And I never would have known this if I hadn't ordered a Saliva Test for

> Steroid hormones.

>

> Also in Dr. Fife's book Saturated Fat May Save Your Life, he says, that the

> STATE of your Intestinal Health will contribute greatly to how your hormones

> status is.

>

> I'd love some feedback from anyone about these results of mine. Dr. Fife

> said that no one else has submitted their hormone results to him to compare

> mine to, but he does say that he hears all the time how VCO AFFECTS hormones

> in people but no one has so far been tested.

>

> Bonnie

>

December 1, 2008

>

> In Dr. Fife's book The Coconut Oil Miracle, he says that VCO is

> SIMILAR to Pregnenolone (the Mother of all hormones) and he is right.

> Pregnenolone first makes DHEA which makes Androstenedione which makes

> Testosterone which makes Estradiol. In that order.

This is significant. I would be interested to know what the rest of

your diet was/is. Were you overweight when you started taking VCO?

What was your most nagging concern about your health before VCO? What

other kinds of supplements do you use?

-vanessa

December 1, 2008

This is very interesting.I dont get my hormones checked , but my

periods have become very regular since I started faking coconut oil

in 2003.Even when I was much younger, periods were highly irregular.

IN NC

>

> Alobar:

>

> You were saying that you were suspicious of the Phytoestrogens in

Soy, I

> BELIEVE Coconut Oil is just as POTENT Hormone-wise as Soy but in a

different

> way.

>

> I just got my bloodwork back and my hormone levels are THAT OF A

FAR YOUNGER

> WOMAN, maybe about 40 years old and I am 65.

>

> In Dr. Fife's book The Coconut Oil Miracle, he says that VCO is

SIMILAR to

> Pregnenolone (the Mother of all hormones) and he is right.

Pregnenolone

> first makes DHEA which makes Androstenedione which makes

Testosterone which

> makes Estradiol. In that order.

>

> And in that very order, my levels are very elevated after several

months of

> using ONLY 2 tablespoons per day.

>

> And I never would have known this if I hadn't ordered a Saliva Test

for

> Steroid hormones.

>

> Also in Dr. Fife's book Saturated Fat May Save Your Life, he says,

that the

> STATE of your Intestinal Health will contribute greatly to how your

hormones

> status is.

>

> I'd love some feedback from anyone about these results of mine. Dr.

Fife

> said that no one else has submitted their hormone results to him to

compare

> mine to, but he does say that he hears all the time how VCO AFFECTS

hormones

> in people but no one has so far been tested.

>

> Bonnie

>

December 2, 2008

I have low hormone levels and I am less than 40yrs old and I have been

taking at least 3 tbsps VCO daily for months now.

December 2, 2008

weighttrainer wrote:

> I have low hormone levels and I am less than 40yrs old and I have been

> taking at least 3 tbsps VCO daily for months now.

>

I suspect if I could get hormones tested that would be true of me as

well, as I have frequent severe hot flashes. I take VCO daily, at least

a tablespoon, often more. But my intake does vary from day to day.

I dislike the idea of messing about with supplemental hormones without

knowing my current levels, but I have it on good authority that saliva

tests for sex hormones are not very accurate, that it needs to be blood

tests for accuracy. Blood tests means a doctor to order them, and I

don't have one since my PA refused. That means searching for a new

doctor, and that gets very expensive very fast. I still have health

insurance, but with a high deductible, so no hope of reaching it,

everything will be out of pocket. My best guess from past experience is

finding a doctor and getting hormones tested could easily run over $500.

I have not had good luck calling doctors before a first appt, and

getting any info as to what their normal standard of practice is.

sol

December 2, 2008

Hi Sol,

Check out www.litalee.com. She can help you. She does a urine test.

Joan

> > I have low hormone levels and I am less than 40yrs old and I have been

> > taking at least 3 tbsps VCO daily for months now.

> >

> I suspect if I could get hormones tested that would be true of me as

> well, as I have frequent severe hot flashes. I take VCO daily, at least

> a tablespoon, often more. But my intake does vary from day to day.

> I dislike the idea of messing about with supplemental hormones without

> knowing my current levels, but I have it on good authority that saliva

> tests for sex hormones are not very accurate, that it needs to be blood

> tests for accuracy. Blood tests means a doctor to order them, and I

> don't have one since my PA refused. That means searching for a new

> doctor, and that gets very expensive very fast. I still have health

> insurance, but with a high deductible, so no hope of reaching it,

> everything will be out of pocket. My best guess from past experience is

> finding a doctor and getting hormones tested could easily run over $500.

> I have not had good luck calling doctors before a first appt, and

> getting any info as to what their normal standard of practice is.

> sol

>

December 2, 2008

Sol:

Saliva testing is the ONLY WAY to ACCURATELY check your hormone levels.

Blood shows hormones BUT they are wrapped in a protein envelope

(protein-bound) and NOT available FOR USE BY THE BODY.

The hormones that show up in a Saliva Test are UNBOUND and thus readily

available.

This is a known fact.

Bonnie

_____

From: Coconut Oil

[mailto:Coconut Oil ] On Behalf Of sol

Sent: December 2, 2008 10:51 AM

Coconut Oil

Subject: Re: Re: Alobar and Phytoestrogens+my

hormones+VCO