Guest guest Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 In a message dated 3/20/2008 6:00:08 P.M. Pacific SA Standard Time, duncancrow@... writes: colloidal silver that would be a great help to you. try it:0) Beth **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030\ 000000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Have you thought about some raw honey for the tonsil problem. I find this always helps. Honey contains a small percentage of natural Hydrogen Peroxide that will help with any tonsil infection. Take a table spoon of Raw Honey, preferably from honey farms in the area where you live. Keep it in your mouth for about 30 seconds and then swallow it. Do this as required, just be wary that late at night it could have a stimulating effect that might affect your sleep. Whenever I feel a tickle in the throat I do this a couple of times a day and it works like a charm. Bee Well ;-) _____ From: Coconut Oil [mailto:Coconut Oil ] On Behalf Of kgeorge1223 Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 1:34 PM Coconut Oil Subject: Swollen Tonsils & Epstein Barr Virus I was recently diagnosed as having the epstein-barr virus (pretty high level), and have had swollen tonsils for the past 3 months. After having a live blood cell analysis, there is also a lot of parasite & yeast activity going on. I was on 2 rounds of antibiotics at the beginning of this ordeal, without much relief. I was wondering if anybody might offer an opinion as to how much coconut oil to consume on a daily basis? I am very sensitive to whatever I take, so I have started out using about 1 tbsp. per day (divided over 3 doses throughout the day) for the last two days. I'm really hoping to bring the swelling down & have the tonsils return to normal. I have already had my appendix out, so keeping the tonsils is really important to me. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 > > Hello: > > The Epstein Barr Virus is one of the Viruses that is listed in Dr. Fife's book as being KILLED by MCFA's in Coconut Oil. > > I would take a teaspoon EVERY HOUR. > > Bonnie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Thanks for the advice - I have tried raw honey from a local farm. I used it for about 2 months - with no results. I know it's hard to believe, but it's true. I am hoping to find relief from the VCO. -- Swollen Tonsils & Epstein Barr Virus I was recently diagnosed as having the epstein-barr virus (pretty high level), and have had swollen tonsils for the past 3 months. After having a live blood cell analysis, there is also a lot of parasite & yeast activity going on. I was on 2 rounds of antibiotics at the beginning of this ordeal, without much relief. I was wondering if anybody might offer an opinion as to how much coconut oil to consume on a daily basis? I am very sensitive to whatever I take, so I have started out using about 1 tbsp. per day (divided over 3 doses throughout the day) for the last two days. I'm really hoping to bring the swelling down & have the tonsils return to normal. I have already had my appendix out, so keeping the tonsils is really important to me. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Thanks for the advice - how many days would you take the 1 tsp/per hour for? -- Swollen Tonsils & Epstein Barr Virus Hello: The Epstein Barr Virus is one of the Viruses that is listed in Dr. Fife's book as being KILLED by MCFA's in Coconut Oil. I would take a teaspoon EVERY HOUR. Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Hello I dont post alot i am a lurker. However my son had epstein barr and i gave him silver sheild by natures sunshine and nutriferon by Shaklee and he is doing very very well. Along with the VCO i think this would serve you well. Do your will amy <tgeorge4@...> wrote: Thanks for the advice - how many days would you take the 1 tsp/per hour for? -- Swollen Tonsils & Epstein Barr Virus Hello: The Epstein Barr Virus is one of the Viruses that is listed in Dr. Fife's book as being KILLED by MCFA's in Coconut Oil. I would take a teaspoon EVERY HOUR. Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 This would just be a guess. I would suggest going by your symptoms. Dr. Fife has some information in his book, which I lent out but you could try finding an article on an ACTIVE INFECTION (for instance) on his website www.coconutresearchcenter.com but in the meantime, get on the VCO and keep it coming. I would say a tsp. per hour would be more beneficial than 2 tbsp. per day. It is amazing what it can do for your immune system. Also for an infection take 50 mg. of Zinc Picolinate or Citrate if you can't get Picolinate - 6 per day for 3 days, then 4 per day for 3 days, then 2 per day for 3 days and by that time, the infection should be under control. We've used Zinc now since 1984 in this way and it always works. Bonnie Swollen Tonsils & Epstein Barr Virus Hello: The Epstein Barr Virus is one of the Viruses that is listed in Dr. Fife's book as being KILLED by MCFA's in Coconut Oil. I would take a teaspoon EVERY HOUR. Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Thanks! I really appreciate your input. -- Re: Swollen Tonsils & Epstein Barr Virus This would just be a guess. I would suggest going by your symptoms. Dr. Fife has some information in his book, which I lent out but you could try finding an article on an ACTIVE INFECTION (for instance) on his website www coconutresearchcenter.com but in the meantime, get on the VCO and keep it coming. I would say a tsp. per hour would be more beneficial than 2 tbsp. per day. It is amazing what it can do for your immune system. Also for an infection take 50 mg. of Zinc Picolinate or Citrate if you can't get Picolinate - 6 per day for 3 days, then 4 per day for 3 days, then 2 per day for 3 days and by that time, the infection should be under control. We've used Zinc now since 1984 in this way and it always works. Bonnie Swollen Tonsils & Epstein Barr Virus Hello: The Epstein Barr Virus is one of the Viruses that is listed in Dr. Fife's book as being KILLED by MCFA's in Coconut Oil. I would take a teaspoon EVERY HOUR. Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Using VCO on an active infection highlights an allopathic approach that we are trying to avoid. Let's look at a more wholistic approach that does not fail; that being, glutathione levels, which influence the seat of the immune response AND also infection resistance in the first place. Obviously, you have to have a decent immune response in order to thwart later bids of this virus and others, especially as you age. The immune system becomes weaker due to low HGH which leads to lower numbers and activity of immune cells, but even so, by increasing glutathione the immune system is somewhat strengthened. Glutathione, the master antioxidant and detoxifier, is produced by ingredients in raw food, especially undenatured whey. It has more than 30,000 listings in PubMed-published research. Bonnie has not materially followed a program that includes undenatured whey, so of course she supports any other approach but that, even though it IS the main approach that increases immune system strength and cell robustness against damage and infection. In the presence of elevated glutathione, ALL infection is suppressed and it's the second most important anti-aging tool anyway, (after HGH increase) By the way, you'd think colloidal silver would be mentioned as a germ killer along with the VCO. Duncan Crow (a wholistic consultant in Canada) http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/ > > This would just be a guess. I would suggest going by your symptoms. Dr. Fife has some information in his book, which I lent out but you could try finding an article on an ACTIVE INFECTION (for instance) on his website www.coconutresearchcenter.com but in the meantime, get on the VCO and keep it coming. I would say a tsp. per hour would be more beneficial than 2 tbsp. per day. It is amazing what it can do for your immune system. > > Also for an infection take 50 mg. of Zinc Picolinate or Citrate if you can't get Picolinate - 6 per day for 3 days, then 4 per day for 3 days, then 2 per day for 3 days and by that time, the infection should be under control. > > We've used Zinc now since 1984 in this way and it always works. > > Bonnie > Swollen Tonsils & Epstein Barr Virus > > Hello: > > The Epstein Barr Virus is one of the Viruses that is listed in Dr. Fife's > book as being KILLED by MCFA's in Coconut Oil. > > I would take a teaspoon EVERY HOUR. > > Bonnie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Here's information from Dr. Ron Myers on the deficiencies seen in Epstein-Barr infection and CFS. As he says, CoQ10 and DHA (not flax oil) in addition to increasing HGH, will help. The company is not into elevating glutathione as much as they could be but they do have some in their antioxidant blend so at least they know about it. http://soma.myvoffice.com/pdf/en/hyhu_2007_06_chronic_fatigue_syndrome ..pdf Duncan Crow http://somalife.net/duncancrow > > Thanks for the advice - I have tried raw honey from a local farm. I used it > for about 2 months - with no results. I know it's hard to believe, but it's > true. I am hoping to find relief from the VCO. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 You need a new doctor. Antibiotics are NEVER used to treat viral infections. This sort of thing is the reason that we end with with MRSA and other antibiotic resistant bacteria. I was on 2 rounds of antibiotics at the > beginning of this ordeal, without much relief. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 Who is " we? " Are you the owner of the board or the appointed censor? Upon joining this group I was not given any guidelines that stated such restrictions. Is there a more inclusive VCO board that I can join? > > Using VCO on an active infection highlights an allopathic approach > that we are trying to avoid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 VCO works for me on ANY kind of infection to date, that I've had. Boils heal faster for me with VCO than anything else I've tried. Sometimes they would last a month or more. I'd try lancing, getting some hydrogen peroxide in there, rubbing alcolol, triple antibiotic ointment, nothing helped much. VCO helped way, way faster than anything. Usually, just one application and the boil would be down by half, by the next day, with the soreness almost gone completely. Nothing happened immediatly though, it seems it had to soak deeply into the boil (without lancing) overnight to work its wonders. This was when i first starting consuming VCO. I've lost about 30 lbs now, and don't have boils much anymore. Don't know if it's because of the regular use of VCO internally, or the weight loss, where my inner legs don't rub together as much or what. i don't get colds much anymore either for that matter, where before VCO I could count at least one per winter. As for Weils views on VCO, he appears to follow the old school party line, and has never tried it out for himself. My cholesterol has come down with my weight, and with increased VCO usage. He doesn't mention a thing about over usage of LCFT's or polyunsaturates, in the link that I clicked on in this blog. Allopathic?? Oh, please...the stuff works in so many beneficial ways from my experience, that to call it anything but super good for the bodily processes, would be silly. I'm sure that there's a point that too much is not good, but that is true with anything. How much is too much? I don't know. I take 3-4 tablespoons a day. Going 2 days without, and I'm aching all over again. The anti inflamatory effects are remarkable. I'm 54 and without VCO, I feel older, achier. With it, I simply don't ache. --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 Peas, Sorry I left you with another impression -- this is not a guideline but a large majority of the people on alternative health groups. " WE " are the wholistically-inclined people who endeavour to control a disease condition with diet, nutrition, and detoxification, rather than poking a drug or a natural product at a single symptom or event. It's a large majority because we know that unlike the allopathic approach, which doesn't actually hit enough variables to cure, the wholistic approach does In the case of using VCO on an infection, which is allopathic in that it pokes the oil at the infection without considering the underlying cause, the wholistically-inclined go a bit deeper into the logic to to discover why the immune system was low enough to allow an infection in the first place. The immune response isn't supposed to allow any infection or especially illness, and each time it does it shortens your lifespan, so we take measures to not allow it to do that any more. While VCO will attack the infection at hand, it does not materially improve your response to the next one, thus the need for a more comprehensive approach. " WE " discuss the more comprehensive approach of improving immune response in this and many other alternative health groups because it is also involved in aging and inflammation. Duncan > > > > Using VCO on an active infection highlights an allopathic approach > > that we are trying to avoid. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 I use VCO every day and I also use whey - the good kind but if and when I get sick I usually hit the OOO (Oil Of Oregano) I prefer the wild oregano - it is about 25.00 a good size bottle and I try and keep it on hand at all times. I often will take it if I am about to travel, to insure I don't pick up germs that my body is not accustomed to - I start a maintence dose a couple of days prior to getting on the plane and usually keep it up while there and until a few days after I get back home - I have done this for years and so far so good. When sick I take 8 capsules a day. You can also get OOO in a liquid form and it is incredibly powerful to use on skin infections - about a 1000 times more powerful than Neosporin stuff. I had a feral cat that had scratched me really badly a few years back - nothing would touch it and I was ready to head to the hospital - within in 6 hrs the OOO had started calming down the swelling, redness and streaks........ SeaLady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 Bonnie, Please give book title? Dr. Fife has been busy and has written several books, LOL. I'm really interested in the EBV being reduced by VCO. sol Bonnie Cole wrote: > The Epstein Barr Virus is one of the Viruses that is listed in Dr. Fife's book as being KILLED by MCFA's in Coconut Oil. > > I would take a teaspoon EVERY HOUR. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 On 3/20/08 1:18 PM, " " <tgeorge4@...> wrote: > > > > Thanks for the advice - how many days would you take the 1 tsp/per hour for? > > > -- Swollen Tonsils & Epstein Barr Virus > > Hello: > > The Epstein Barr Virus is one of the Viruses that is listed in Dr. Fife's > book as being KILLED by MCFA's in Coconut Oil. > > I would take a teaspoon EVERY HOUR. > > Bonnie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 I mentioned this before but I think I posted it on the wrong letter. So, I will tell again. I read a study from the UK that told of how Oil of Oregano killed even MRSA. The nest day I had a horrible infection on my abdomen. Several inches across, deep, sore and an open sore. I don't have any idea where it came from . My doc gave me a script for kelfex as broad spectrum antibiotic. Instead I took 8 drops of Oil of Oregano every six hours in a spoonful of water followed by a glass of water. I did this for ten days just as I would have taken the antibiotic. It healed beautifully and the prescription is still un opened ! Yay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 Just a guess but I would say till all swelling from your glands has gone and you feel that you're back to normal, perhaps several weeks? Bonnie Swollen Tonsils & Epstein Barr Virus > > Hello: > > The Epstein Barr Virus is one of the Viruses that is listed in Dr. Fife's > book as being KILLED by MCFA's in Coconut Oil. > > I would take a teaspoon EVERY HOUR. > > Bonnie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 I'll give it a try. I have also ordered Dr. Fife's book The Coconut Oil Miracle - can't wait to read it. -- Re: Swollen Tonsils & Epstein Barr Virus Just a guess but I would say till all swelling from your glands has gone and you feel that you're back to normal, perhaps several weeks? Bonnie Swollen Tonsils & Epstein Barr Virus > > Hello: > > The Epstein Barr Virus is one of the Viruses that is listed in Dr. Fife's > book as being KILLED by MCFA's in Coconut Oil. > > I would take a teaspoon EVERY HOUR. > > Bonnie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 : You mean you haven't started on the VCO yet??? I had Mono (Epstein Barr) in the early 70's and was only sick for 1 week but SLEPT better than I ever have. Bonnie Swollen Tonsils & Epstein Barr Virus > > Hello: > > The Epstein Barr Virus is one of the Viruses that is listed in Dr. Fife's > book as being KILLED by MCFA's in Coconut Oil. > > I would take a teaspoon EVERY HOUR. > > Bonnie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 Yes - I started the VCO the day I got your advice. I just ordered the book which I am waiting to receive. -- Re: Swollen Tonsils & Epstein Barr Virus : You mean you haven't started on the VCO yet??? I had Mono (Epstein Barr) in the early 70's and was only sick for 1 week but SLEPT better than I ever have. Bonnie Swollen Tonsils & Epstein Barr Virus > > Hello: > > The Epstein Barr Virus is one of the Viruses that is listed in Dr. Fife's > book as being KILLED by MCFA's in Coconut Oil. > > I would take a teaspoon EVERY HOUR. > > Bonnie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 Well , would you tell us if you've had any help with this VCO and your swollen tonsils? Bonnie Swollen Tonsils & Epstein Barr Virus > > Hello: > > The Epstein Barr Virus is one of the Viruses that is listed in Dr. Fife's > book as being KILLED by MCFA's in Coconut Oil. > > I would take a teaspoon EVERY HOUR. > > Bonnie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 So far, no difference. Since they've been swollen for 3 months, I assume that it might take a little while to work. I will let you know when I notice a difference :-) -- Re: Swollen Tonsils & Epstein Barr Virus Well , would you tell us if you've had any help with this VCO and your swollen tonsils? Bonnie Swollen Tonsils & Epstein Barr Virus > > Hello: > > The Epstein Barr Virus is one of the Viruses that is listed in Dr. Fife's > book as being KILLED by MCFA's in Coconut Oil. > > I would take a teaspoon EVERY HOUR. > > Bonnie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 Chantelle, before you get the wrong impression, VCO does not penetrate tissues to where the infection is, unlike colloidal silver or ozonated water. Duncan > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the advice - how many days would you take the 1 tsp/per hour for? > > > > > > -- Swollen Tonsils & Epstein Barr Virus > > > > Hello: > > > > The Epstein Barr Virus is one of the Viruses that is listed in Dr. Fife's > > book as being KILLED by MCFA's in Coconut Oil. > > > > I would take a teaspoon EVERY HOUR. > > > > Bonnie > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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