Re: coconut oil and candida

[Guest guest]

I don't have an answer but I wonder if things such as Lauricidin(

monolaurin, which also comes from coconut)would be more " powerful "

for such problems. http://www.lauricidin.com/ Not a bad option if you

can't take enough oil.

>

> Hi there,

>

> I started taking virgin coconut oil about 2 weeks ago (3

tablespoons)

> per day with meal for treating candida. I also take enzymes

> supplement and natural yogurt for probiotics. I saw some die-off

in

> the first 1.5 day but after that I am not sure what is happening.

>

> I still have anxiety now and then and seems more irritated if I am

> hungry before meal time.

>

> I was wondering if I should be taking more coconut oil or taking it

in

> between meals rather than with meals. Are the effects " diluted "

when

> I take it with meal.

>

> Does anyone know?

>

> Sincerely, Leng

>

[Guest guest]

Hi !

May I contribute to a better understanding of why lauric fatty acids like

from coconut oil controls many human diseases as the subject candida (known to

be caused by the yeast microbes).

The late Dr/Prof Conrado Dayrit (MD, Pharmacologist) reported that the

monolaurin (ML) a monoglyceride of lauric acid is very active and potent against

gram positive bacteria, lipid coated viruses, fungi, protozoa, AIDS and SARS,

thus its application in pharma and health care products has gained immense

global interest and recognition. It is classified by the US FDA as GRAS

(generally recommended as safe). Another highly distinguished supporter of

coconut oil for health and nutrition, Dr Enig (PhD, F.A.C.N.) mentioned

during the AVOC Lauric Oils Symposium (Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam, New World

Hotel, 25 April 1996) as published in the COCONUTS TODAY (vol 13,No.1) the

anti-microbial benefits from coconut oil, as follows:

1) Recognition of the strong anti-microbial activity of monoglyceride

monolaurin, produced or converted in the body thru the intake of lauric fatty

acid has been introduced by Dr Jon Kabara (1966, 1978,1982) with studies of the

US Public Health Service related to controlling strains of recognized enveloped

human viruses (the envelope or protected coating is a lipid or fat membrane).

Kabara and others (1978) found out that medium chain fatty acids as coconut oil

and derivatives (monoglycerides/monolaurin) can have adverse effects

(inactivates or controls) may pathogenic microorganisms, bacteria, yeast, fungi,

and enveloped viruses, by disrupting the lipid membrane.

2) Among the saturated fatty acids lauric acids (C12) has the greater

antiviral activity than the caprylic acid (C10) or myristic acid (C14).

3) The action of monolaurin (patented lauricidin, the drug commercial form)

is that of solubilizing the lipids and phospholipids in the envelope of the

virus causing the disintegration of the virus envelope, eventually the

monoglycerides or monolaurin results in inactivating/lysing effect on the virus.

4) the medium chain saturated lauric fatty acid-rich coconut oil is used by

our body system to make the same disease-fighting acid derivative monolaurin

that babies make from the lauric acid they get from their mother's breast milk.

Moreover, the monoglyceride laurin is the same substance that keeps infants from

getting viral or bacterial or protozoal infections.

Mind you, if you inspect the todays infant formulated milk produced by known

global companies, the lauric/ monolaurin are those active components under the

MCTs (medium chain triglycerides), usually highlighted as this is in high

concentration of the formulated milk, the substitute of mother's breast milk.

Hope this helps. And apologies for some errors (if you find one), got no time

to review it as it's time for my official tasks.

Cheers,

Sev Magat

dutchunter <dutchunter@...> wrote:

I don't have an answer but I wonder if things such as Lauricidin(

monolaurin, which also comes from coconut)would be more " powerful "

for such problems. http://www.lauricidin.com/ Not a bad option if you

can't take enough oil.

>

> Hi there,

>

> I started taking virgin coconut oil about 2 weeks ago (3

tablespoons)

> per day with meal for treating candida. I also take enzymes

> supplement and natural yogurt for probiotics. I saw some die-off

in

> the first 1.5 day but after that I am not sure what is happening.

>

> I still have anxiety now and then and seems more irritated if I am

> hungry before meal time.

>

> I was wondering if I should be taking more coconut oil or taking it

in

> between meals rather than with meals. Are the effects " diluted "

when

> I take it with meal.

>

> Does anyone know?

>

> Sincerely, Leng

>

---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

Hi

Severino explanations are dead on right... I hasten to add one more thing... The

benefits of regularly using Coconut Oil in re-gaining health go beyond just one

(or more) analyzed ors isolated compounds... Their combined actions is likely to

provide more health benefits than just one or more substance... Good Nutrition

is key to good health.. So consume as much VCO, its effects are beyond the

effects of Monolaurin alone..

Frantz

Severino Magat <sev_magat@...> wrote: Hi !

May I contribute to a better understanding of why lauric fatty acids like

from coconut oil controls many human diseases as the subject candida (known to

be caused by the yeast microbes).

The late Dr/Prof Conrado Dayrit (MD, Pharmacologist) reported that the

monolaurin (ML) a monoglyceride of lauric acid is very active and potent against

gram positive bacteria, lipid coated viruses, fungi, protozoa, AIDS and SARS,

thus its application in pharma and health care products has gained immense

global interest and recognition. It is classified by the US FDA as GRAS

(generally recommended as safe). Another highly distinguished supporter of

coconut oil for health and nutrition, Dr Enig (PhD, F.A.C.N.) mentioned

during the AVOC Lauric Oils Symposium (Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam, New World

Hotel, 25 April 1996) as published in the COCONUTS TODAY (vol 13,No.1) the

anti-microbial benefits from coconut oil, as follows:

1) Recognition of the strong anti-microbial activity of monoglyceride

monolaurin, produced or converted in the body thru the intake of lauric fatty

acid has been introduced by Dr Jon Kabara (1966, 1978,1982) with studies of the

US Public Health Service related to controlling strains of recognized enveloped

human viruses (the envelope or protected coating is a lipid or fat membrane).

Kabara and others (1978) found out that medium chain fatty acids as coconut oil

and derivatives (monoglycerides/monolaurin) can have adverse effects

(inactivates or controls) may pathogenic microorganisms, bacteria, yeast, fungi,

and enveloped viruses, by disrupting the lipid membrane.

2) Among the saturated fatty acids lauric acids (C12) has the greater

antiviral activity than the caprylic acid (C10) or myristic acid (C14).

3) The action of monolaurin (patented lauricidin, the drug commercial form)

is that of solubilizing the lipids and phospholipids in the envelope of the

virus causing the disintegration of the virus envelope, eventually the

monoglycerides or monolaurin results in inactivating/lysing effect on the virus.

4) the medium chain saturated lauric fatty acid-rich coconut oil is used by

our body system to make the same disease-fighting acid derivative monolaurin

that babies make from the lauric acid they get from their mother's breast milk.

Moreover, the monoglyceride laurin is the same substance that keeps infants from

getting viral or bacterial or protozoal infections.

Mind you, if you inspect the todays infant formulated milk produced by known

global companies, the lauric/ monolaurin are those active components under the

MCTs (medium chain triglycerides), usually highlighted as this is in high

concentration of the formulated milk, the substitute of mother's breast milk.

Hope this helps. And apologies for some errors (if you find one), got no time

to review it as it's time for my official tasks.

Cheers,

Sev Magat

---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

But you'd need to consume gobs of coconut oil to get the benefits

of " Monolaurin alone " .

I realize this is coconut oil group and coconut is the thing being sold-

both as a topic and an actual product(by some here). But there are other

things out there, and this " one analyzed or isolated compount " does have

it's benefits. And it does come from coconut oil. Coconut oil does have it's

benefits. As does coconut water. As does the whole

coconut- I guess some will say the whole coconut combination has more

health benefits!

But then again I'm not sure what Sev Magat posted below that would say

otherwise.

Re: Re: coconut oil and candida

Hi

Severino explanations are dead on right... I hasten to add one more thing...

The benefits of regularly using Coconut Oil in re-gaining health go beyond just

one (or more) analyzed ors isolated compounds... Their combined actions is

likely to provide more health benefits than just one or more substance... Good

Nutrition is key to good health.. So consume as much VCO, its effects are beyond

the effects of Monolaurin alone..

Frantz

Severino Magat <sev_magat@...> wrote: Hi !

May I contribute to a better understanding of why lauric fatty acids like from

coconut oil controls many human diseases as the subject candida (known to be

caused by the yeast microbes).

The late Dr/Prof Conrado Dayrit (MD, Pharmacologist) reported that the

monolaurin (ML) a monoglyceride of lauric acid is very active and potent against

gram positive bacteria, lipid coated viruses, fungi, protozoa, AIDS and SARS,

thus its application in pharma and health care products has gained immense

global interest and recognition. It is classified by the US FDA as GRAS

(generally recommended as safe). Another highly distinguished supporter of

coconut oil for health and nutrition, Dr Enig (PhD, F.A.C.N.) mentioned

during the AVOC Lauric Oils Symposium (Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam, New World

Hotel, 25 April 1996) as published in the COCONUTS TODAY (vol 13,No.1) the

anti-microbial benefits from coconut oil, as follows:

1) Recognition of the strong anti-microbial activity of monoglyceride

monolaurin, produced or converted in the body thru the intake of lauric fatty

acid has been introduced by Dr Jon Kabara (1966, 1978,1982) with studies of the

US Public Health Service related to controlling strains of recognized enveloped

human viruses (the envelope or protected coating is a lipid or fat membrane).

Kabara and others (1978) found out that medium chain fatty acids as coconut oil

and derivatives (monoglycerides/monolaurin) can have adverse effects

(inactivates or controls) may pathogenic microorganisms, bacteria, yeast, fungi,

and enveloped viruses, by disrupting the lipid membrane.

2) Among the saturated fatty acids lauric acids (C12) has the greater

antiviral activity than the caprylic acid (C10) or myristic acid (C14).

3) The action of monolaurin (patented lauricidin, the drug commercial form) is

that of solubilizing the lipids and phospholipids in the envelope of the virus

causing the disintegration of the virus envelope, eventually the monoglycerides

or monolaurin results in inactivating/lysing effect on the virus.

4) the medium chain saturated lauric fatty acid-rich coconut oil is used by

our body system to make the same disease-fighting acid derivative monolaurin

that babies make from the lauric acid they get from their mother's breast milk.

Moreover, the monoglyceride laurin is the same substance that keeps infants from

getting viral or bacterial or protozoal infections.

Mind you, if you inspect the todays infant formulated milk produced by known

global companies, the lauric/ monolaurin are those active components under the

MCTs (medium chain triglycerides), usually highlighted as this is in high

concentration of the formulated milk, the substitute of mother's breast milk.

Hope this helps. And apologies for some errors (if you find one), got no time

to review it as it's time for my official tasks.

Cheers,

Sev Magat

---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

:

I think when you take ACTIVE ingredients OUT of just about anything, they don't

work as well (and/or as they should) but consuming them WITHIN the original

product is the best way to go. Even Dr. Fife has said that in his books.

Bonnie

Re: Re: coconut oil and candida

Hi

Severino explanations are dead on right... I hasten to add one more thing...

The benefits of regularly using Coconut Oil in re-gaining health go beyond just

one (or more) analyzed ors isolated compounds... Their combined actions is

likely to provide more health benefits than just one or more substance... Good

Nutrition is key to good health.. So consume as much VCO, its effects are beyond

the effects of Monolaurin alone..

Frantz

Severino Magat <sev_magat@...> wrote: Hi !

May I contribute to a better understanding of why lauric fatty acids like from

coconut oil controls many human diseases as the subject candida (known to be

caused by the yeast microbes).

The late Dr/Prof Conrado Dayrit (MD, Pharmacologist) reported that the

monolaurin (ML) a monoglyceride of lauric acid is very active and potent against

gram positive bacteria, lipid coated viruses, fungi, protozoa, AIDS and SARS,

thus its application in pharma and health care products has gained immense

global interest and recognition. It is classified by the US FDA as GRAS

(generally recommended as safe). Another highly distinguished supporter of

coconut oil for health and nutrition, Dr Enig (PhD, F.A.C.N.) mentioned

during the AVOC Lauric Oils Symposium (Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam, New World

Hotel, 25 April 1996) as published in the COCONUTS TODAY (vol 13,No.1) the

anti-microbial benefits from coconut oil, as follows:

1) Recognition of the strong anti-microbial activity of monoglyceride

monolaurin, produced or converted in the body thru the intake of lauric fatty

acid has been introduced by Dr Jon Kabara (1966, 1978,1982) with studies of the

US Public Health Service related to controlling strains of recognized enveloped

human viruses (the envelope or protected coating is a lipid or fat membrane).

Kabara and others (1978) found out that medium chain fatty acids as coconut oil

and derivatives (monoglycerides/monolaurin) can have adverse effects

(inactivates or controls) may pathogenic microorganisms, bacteria, yeast, fungi,

and enveloped viruses, by disrupting the lipid membrane.

2) Among the saturated fatty acids lauric acids (C12) has the greater

antiviral activity than the caprylic acid (C10) or myristic acid (C14).

3) The action of monolaurin (patented lauricidin, the drug commercial form) is

that of solubilizing the lipids and phospholipids in the envelope of the virus

causing the disintegration of the virus envelope, eventually the monoglycerides

or monolaurin results in inactivating/lysing effect on the virus.

4) the medium chain saturated lauric fatty acid-rich coconut oil is used by

our body system to make the same disease-fighting acid derivative monolaurin

that babies make from the lauric acid they get from their mother's breast milk.

Moreover, the monoglyceride laurin is the same substance that keeps infants from

getting viral or bacterial or protozoal infections.

Mind you, if you inspect the todays infant formulated milk produced by known

global companies, the lauric/ monolaurin are those active components under the

MCTs (medium chain triglycerides), usually highlighted as this is in high

concentration of the formulated milk, the substitute of mother's breast milk.

Hope this helps. And apologies for some errors (if you find one), got no time

to review it as it's time for my official tasks.

Cheers,

Sev Magat

---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

I would agree..excpet that obviously monolaurin, by itself in larger dosages,

can do some things that coconut oil cannot do. Monolaurin is even being used as

a preservative and cleaner/disinfectant.

There are countless examples of this. Grape seed extract or pine bark extract

come to mind. I prefer many things as a " whole food " , but there are things that

can be better- extracted. I go back to the whole coconut example.

---- Bonnie Cole <bonnieview@...> wrote: > :> > I think when

you take ACTIVE ingredients OUT of just about anything, they don't work as well

(and/or as they should) but consuming them WITHIN the original product is the

best way to go. Even Dr. Fife has said that in his books.> > Bonnie> >   -----

Original Message ----- >   From: >   To:

Coconut Oil >   Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 1:05

PM>   Subject: Re: Re: coconut oil and candida> >

>   But you'd need to consume gobs of coconut oil to get the benefits >   of

" Monolaurin alone " . > >   I realize this is coconut oil group and coconut is

the thing being sold->   both as a topic and an actual product(by some here).

But there are other>   things out there, and this " one analyzed or isolated

compount " does have>   it's benefits. And it does come from coconut oil.

Coconut oil does have it's >   benefits. As does coconut water. As does the

whole>   coconut- I guess some will say the whole coconut combination has

more>   health benefits! > >   But then again I'm not sure what Sev Magat

posted below that would say otherwise. > >   > >   ----- Original

Message ----- >   From: Frantz Mathias >   To:

Coconut Oil >   Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 9:49

AM>   Subject: Re: Re: coconut oil and candida> >  

Hi> >   Severino explanations are dead on right... I hasten to add one more

thing... The benefits of regularly using Coconut Oil in re-gaining health go

beyond just one (or more) analyzed ors isolated compounds... Their combined

actions is likely to provide more health benefits than just one or more

substance... Good Nutrition is key to good health.. So consume as much VCO, its

effects are beyond the effects of Monolaurin alone..> >   Frantz> >  

Severino Magat <sev_magat@...> wrote: Hi !> >   May I contribute to a

better understanding of why lauric fatty acids like from coconut oil controls

many human diseases as the subject candida (known to be caused by the yeast

microbes).> >   The late Dr/Prof Conrado Dayrit (MD, Pharmacologist) reported

that the monolaurin (ML) a monoglyceride of lauric acid is very active and

potent against gram positive bacteria, lipid coated viruses, fungi, protozoa,

AIDS and SARS, thus its application in pharma and health care products has

gained immense global interest and recognition. It is classified by the US FDA

as GRAS (generally recommended as safe). Another highly distinguished supporter

of coconut oil for health and nutrition, Dr Enig (PhD, F.A.C.N.) mentioned

during the AVOC Lauric Oils Symposium (Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam, New World

Hotel, 25 April 1996) as published in the COCONUTS TODAY (vol 13,No.1) the

anti-microbial benefits from coconut oil, as follows: > >   1) Recognition of

the strong anti-microbial activity of monoglyceride monolaurin, produced or

converted in the body thru the intake of lauric fatty acid has been introduced

by Dr Jon Kabara (1966, 1978,1982) with studies of the US Public Health Service

related to controlling strains of recognized enveloped human viruses (the

envelope or protected coating is a lipid or fat membrane). Kabara and others

(1978) found out that medium chain fatty acids as coconut oil and derivatives

(monoglycerides/monolaurin) can have adverse effects (inactivates or controls)

may pathogenic microorganisms, bacteria, yeast, fungi, and enveloped viruses, by

disrupting the lipid membrane.> >   2) Among the saturated fatty acids lauric

acids (C12) has the greater antiviral activity than the caprylic acid (C10) or

myristic acid (C14).> >   3) The action of monolaurin (patented lauricidin,

the drug commercial form) is that of solubilizing the lipids and phospholipids

in the envelope of the virus causing the disintegration of the virus envelope,

eventually the monoglycerides or monolaurin results in inactivating/lysing

effect on the virus.> >   4) the medium chain saturated lauric fatty acid-rich

coconut oil is used by our body system to make the same disease-fighting acid

derivative monolaurin that babies make from the lauric acid they get from their

mother's breast milk. Moreover, the monoglyceride laurin is the same substance

that keeps infants from getting viral or bacterial or protozoal infections.>

>   Mind you, if you inspect the todays infant formulated milk produced by

known global companies, the lauric/ monolaurin are those active components under

the MCTs (medium chain triglycerides), usually highlighted as this is in high

concentration of the formulated milk, the substitute of mother's breast milk.>

>   Hope this helps. And apologies for some errors (if you find one), got no

time to review it as it's time for my official tasks.> >   Cheers,> >   Sev

Magat > >   --------------------------------->   Be a better friend,

newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.> >   [Non-text

portions of this message have been removed]> >   [Non-text portions of this

message have been removed]> > > >    > > [Non-text portions of this message

have been removed]>

[Guest guest]

I was doing a search for Dr. Fife, and there's this:

“The abundance of documented scientific facts reviewed for Dr. Fife’s book

will tell as Harvey would say, “the rest of the storyâ€. As the story

unfolds the reader can better appreciate the fact that “saturated fats are

classified into two primary categories: (1) long-chain fats and (2) short and

medium-chain fats, each subgroup having markedly different biological effects.

It is shown that the over consumption of polyunsaturated fats in our diet is

more detrimental to our health than saturated fats found in tropical oils.

Not only is coconut oil not a “dietary poison†but it contains a remarkable

fat called monolaurin. The medium-chain fat, first discovered in our

laboratory, represents one of the most exceptional and inspiring group of fats

found in nature. This unique fat available naturally from mother’s milk and

coconut oil is now commercially available as Lauricidin®. Monolaurin

(Lauricidin®) is currently being tested in clinical trials as a treatment for

genital herpes, hepatitis C, and HIV. Early clinical results have been very

promising and show exciting possibilities for an important new weapon in

alternative medicine.

Dr. Bruce Fife should be commended for bringing together in this very readable

book the positive health benefits of coconut oil and especially monolaurin. The

inquiring reader will have a new and more balanced view of the role of fat and

especially saturated fats in our diet.â€

http://www.coconut-connections.com/more_about_hiv_aids.htm

So he seems to be a fan of Monolaurin and what it can do as well.

Re: Re: coconut oil and candida

I would agree..excpet that obviously monolaurin, by itself in larger dosages,

can do some things that coconut oil cannot do. Monolaurin is even being used as

a preservative and cleaner/disinfectant.

There are countless examples of this. Grape seed extract or pine bark extract

come to mind. I prefer many things as a " whole food " , but there are things that

can be better- extracted. I go back to the whole coconut example.

---- Bonnie Cole <bonnieview@...> wrote: > :> > I think when

you take ACTIVE ingredients OUT of just about anything, they don't work as well

(and/or as they should) but consuming them WITHIN the original product is the

best way to go. Even Dr. Fife has said that in his books.> > Bonnie> > -----

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>

> Hi there,

>

> I started taking virgin coconut oil about 2 weeks ago (3 tablespoons)

> per day with meal for treating candida. I also take enzymes

> supplement and natural yogurt for probiotics. I saw some die-off in

> the first 1.5 day but after that I am not sure what is happening.

What is " die-off " ?

[Guest guest]

Hi Leng:

I just want to share with you that I do not take VCO together with meals. I

take it by spoonful before a meal, at least about 20 minutes earlier, or after a

meal, at least about an hour later. I just think that taking it with a meal

somehow dilutes it. But I think this is more of a lifestyle matter than science.

This method works for me, like when I prevent possible onset of flu (4 tbsp in a

day). If there is mouth infection, I first swish, gargle before I swallow a

tablespoonful of dose. If there is irritation on any part of my body, I apply

topically frequently (when the oil is absorbed and it gets dry, I apply again)

until the irritation is gone.

Sincerely, Tony

puckathome <puckathome@...> wrote:

Hi there,

I started taking virgin coconut oil about 2 weeks ago (3 tablespoons)

per day with meal for treating candida. I also take enzymes

supplement and natural yogurt for probiotics. I saw some die-off in

the first 1.5 day but after that I am not sure what is happening.

I still have anxiety now and then and seems more irritated if I am

hungry before meal time.

I was wondering if I should be taking more coconut oil or taking it in

between meals rather than with meals. Are the effects " diluted " when

I take it with meal.

Does anyone know?

Sincerely, Leng

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