Guest guest Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 I don¹t know there removal procedures, so I have no idea. I mean this concept has definitely crossed my mind and concerned me, however, I have been to the Great Salt Lake recently and having seen it recently actually allayed my fears quite a bit. Part of my outlook on all this is that we have no choice about the pollution we live around/ in to some degree. I mean we can live as far away from it as possible personally, etc. but we can¹t completely remove ourselves. And I FEEL healthy when I consume the better salt. It seems the minerals are helping me more than the pollution is killing me, but I only know how it seems . (I¹d love to do more scientific testing on myself than I have the equipment and resources to perform) I think , too, for me, I grew up along the Mississippi River. Now THAT was polluted. Yuck! We didn¹t eat fish out of it for fear of pollution (yet lots of people did!) My mom very much has the mentality to think of all these things. I sure can¹t do anything to change certain things, as much I would like to. Just have to work with the best I¹ve got. Thankfully, I keep learning better and better ways to do that Chantelle On 12/12/08 10:44 AM, " sol " <solbun@...> wrote: > > > > I used to live in Utah, and very familiar with the surroundings of the > GSL, still take a pet rabbit to the vet in SLC, and wouldn't touch salt > from the lake. Even more fertilizers and pesticides than in the ocean > would be my guess. Plus pollution from Salt Lake City, which has some of > the worst air in the west. Rain/snow carries the air pollution right > down into the lake, and hence into the salt evaporated from it. > Concentrace probably contains all the undesireables also, or is some of > the worst of it somehow removed? > sol > > curious to see where your cranky two cents goes on that >> > Chantelle >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Here is an analysis of the Celtic Sea Salt that I use on a daily basis: http://www.celticseasalt.com/PDF/CSSAnalysis-Jan2007.pdf My dr. (Dr. Brownstein) maintains that it is very pure. I guess he has had it tested (on his own) a couple of different times. Best, Glo ________________________________ From: Chantelle <bornfrueh@...> Coconut Oil Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 1:23:28 PM Subject: Re: Sol/sal I don¹t know there removal procedures, so I have no idea. I mean this concept has definitely crossed my mind and concerned me, however, I have been to the Great Salt Lake recently and having seen it recently actually allayed my fears quite a bit. Part of my outlook on all this is that we have no choice about the pollution we live around/ in to some degree. I mean we can live as far away from it as possible personally, etc. but we can¹t completely remove ourselves. And I FEEL healthy when I consume the better salt. It seems the minerals are helping me more than the pollution is killing me, but I only know how it seems . (I¹d love to do more scientific testing on myself than I have the equipment and resources to perform) I think , too, for me, I grew up along the Mississippi River. Now THAT was polluted. Yuck! We didn¹t eat fish out of it for fear of pollution (yet lots of people did!) My mom very much has the mentality to think of all these things. I sure can¹t do anything to change certain things, as much I would like to. Just have to work with the best I¹ve got. Thankfully, I keep learning better and better ways to do that Chantelle On 12/12/08 10:44 AM, " sol " <solbun@sweetwaterhs a.com> wrote: > > > > I used to live in Utah, and very familiar with the surroundings of the > GSL, still take a pet rabbit to the vet in SLC, and wouldn't touch salt > from the lake. Even more fertilizers and pesticides than in the ocean > would be my guess. Plus pollution from Salt Lake City, which has some of > the worst air in the west. Rain/snow carries the air pollution right > down into the lake, and hence into the salt evaporated from it. > Concentrace probably contains all the undesireables also, or is some of > the worst of it somehow removed? > sol > > curious to see where your cranky two cents goes on that >> > Chantelle >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Just for curiosity, what time of year were you there? Salt lake City is socked in with heavy air pollution (inversions) most of every winter. You can go MONTHS and not see the sun even one day. Run off and effluent from the copper mine too go into the lake, but I'm not sure if the copper mines are still going. Yuck. Driviing into SLC on a bad summer day, or any day in the winter you drive down from the clear in the mountains into a sea of muck that covers the entire SL valley. It give me an instand headache. As for the fact pollution and toxins are everywhere we agree. We just disagree about details. I prefer clean salt and clean water. I DO add some food grade freshwater DE to my salt, and that may contain some pollutants also. But since it is mined from underground deposits of fresh water lakes eons gone, I feel it is a cleaner source of minerals than any sea or ocean salt avaliable today. sol Chantelle wrote: > I don¹t know there removal procedures, so I have no idea. I mean this > concept has definitely crossed my mind and concerned me, however, I have > been to the Great Salt Lake recently and having seen it recently actually > allayed my fears quite a bit. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Interesting data, Glo. Thanks! Speaking of lead in ceramics, in the last few years I've been slowly replacing my dinnerware with Caleca brand, which according to their website has no cadmium or lead in their pottery. Being 1/2 ish (and what seems to be the dominant half), I've purchased various patterns I like, piece by piece, mostly on Ebay. So I have a very colorful, eclectic collection, which makes eating fun. Oops, now I can't find their official website. Also to do with minerals, lately I've been getting some awful leg/foot cramps, and I suspect it's a mineral imbalance. I can't afford testing just now. Am wondering if drinking too much water that's distilled might be causing this. We have a reverse osmosis, 3-carbon filter system. Any ideas? Maybe mineral water would be better for now? Thanks for all the great feedback. Great forum, especially when people aren't being too contentious. [] nah > > > > > > > > > I used to live in Utah, and very familiar with the surroundings of the > > GSL, still take a pet rabbit to the vet in SLC, and wouldn't touch salt > > from the lake. Even more fertilizers and pesticides than in the ocean > > would be my guess. Plus pollution from Salt Lake City, which has some of > > the worst air in the west. Rain/snow carries the air pollution right > > down into the lake, and hence into the salt evaporated from it. > > Concentrace probably contains all the undesireables also, or is some of > > the worst of it somehow removed? > > sol > > > > curious to see where your cranky two cents goes on that > >> > Chantelle > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 I don't want to start a storm of controversy, this is my opinion, but I do not consider Brownstein or any of his colleagues a source of accurate information. again, I stress, my opinion but I am familiar with him, and his cronies and acolytes and also familiar with a couple of his former patients.......who do not respect him. sol Glory wrote: > Here is an analysis of the Celtic Sea Salt that I use on a daily basis: > > http://www.celticseasalt.com/PDF/CSSAnalysis-Jan2007.pdf > > My dr. (Dr. Brownstein) maintains that it is very pure. I guess he has had it tested (on his own) a couple of different times. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 I know several people who say they add Concentrace to their distilled water for minerals. But you might be deficient in magnesium or calcium or both. Supplementing both fixed my son's leg cramps, so it might be worth a try. I have been drinking distilled water as my only drinking water for around 7 years and do not have leg cramps, and don't take magnesium either, and until this past week never took any minerals except calcium and selenium with very rarely zinc and copper. I have read posts on another list that muscle cramps can also be low sodium or low potassium, if I am remembering rightly. sol nah wrote: > Also to do with minerals, lately I've been getting some awful leg/foot > cramps, and I suspect it's a mineral imbalance. I can't afford testing > just now. Am wondering if drinking too much water that's distilled > might be causing this. We have a reverse osmosis, 3-carbon filter > system. Any ideas? Maybe mineral water would be better for now? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 I once knew someone who bought limestone gravel at a garden store, washed, then boiled it. He then put about an inch of gravel into a gallon jug, filled the jug with R-O water, and let it sit for several days in the fridge. As he drank the water, he added fresh R-O water. He felt this mineralized the water. I have no idea if it would work. Alobar On 12/12/08, nah <spthompson49@...> wrote: > > Interesting data, Glo. Thanks! > > Speaking of lead in ceramics, in the last few years I've been slowly > replacing my dinnerware with Caleca brand, which according to their > website has no cadmium or lead in their pottery. Being 1/2 ish > (and what seems to be the dominant half), I've purchased various > patterns I like, piece by piece, mostly on Ebay. So I have a very > colorful, eclectic collection, which makes eating fun. > > Oops, now I can't find their official website. > > Also to do with minerals, lately I've been getting some awful leg/foot > cramps, and I suspect it's a mineral imbalance. I can't afford testing > just now. Am wondering if drinking too much water that's distilled > might be causing this. We have a reverse osmosis, 3-carbon filter > system. Any ideas? Maybe mineral water would be better for now? > > Thanks for all the great feedback. Great forum, especially when people > aren't being too contentious. [] > > nah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Thank you for your response, sol. I've been taking some cal/mag supplements (2:1 ratio) as a sleep aid, but the cramps seem to get worse when I take them. One early morning when I awakened in such extreme pain, like severe cramps all up and down the fronts AND the backs of both lower legs, I even quickly mixed up a sink of Epsom salts, and that didn't help either. I've tried adding extra magnesium, but it's so laxative to my system that I fear they make all nutrients leave my body so quickly that there's little absorption taking place. I do crave salt a bit. Maybe I'll try your theory of cleaner salt and a little more of it. I'm such a veggie lover that I assume there's probably not a potassium deficiency. I added in some mineral water the last couple days, and no cramps, but could be coincidence, or wishful thinking. (I'm willing for wishful thinking to work, too!) Speaking of which, I read somewhere that one should put a bar of Ivory soap between the sheets at the bottom of the bed to stop leg cramps. I have to say, they've lessened since I did this, too. I'll try anything at this point! A couple days ago I was cleaning the oven (to avoid some dreadful work I had to do), and my toes cramp up so badly I almost had to stop. Sometimes in DSW, when I'm wiggling into various high heels, my feet cramp up like crazy and I have to stomp the cramps away, right there in public. How embarrassing! > > I know several people who say they add Concentrace to their distilled > water for minerals. > But you might be deficient in magnesium or calcium or both. > Supplementing both fixed my son's leg cramps, so it might be worth a try. > I have been drinking distilled water as my only drinking water for > around 7 years and do not have leg cramps, and don't take magnesium > either, and until this past week never took any minerals except calcium > and selenium with very rarely zinc and copper. > I have read posts on another list that muscle cramps can also be low > sodium or low potassium, if I am remembering rightly. > sol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 On the adrenal list I belong to, a suggestion is to try 1/2 tsp salt (they always recommend sea salt) in a large glass of water, and see if cramping or other symptoms abate or worsen. This tells you quickly if the cause of the symptom is low sodium. The other day when I had a high pulse rate, I drank a whole teaspoon of salt in a glass of water, and then took my pulse again in an hour, and it had gone back down to my normal. It may seem counter-intuitive, but drinking salted water has also sometimes resolved edema for me, and resulted in a LOT of trips to the bathroom. The reason for that is said to be that when sodium is low, the body will hang onto water in order not to lose any more salt. Give it the salt it needs, and it lets go of the water. (Dr. , book title below) Your post reminded me that back 20 years or more ago, when I was eating a very low salt diet and using a lot of potassium chloride, I did used to have leg cramps frequently at night. Since I eat as much salt as I crave these days I don't have them anymore. I go by my taste, when salt tastes good I eat it, if it doesn't I don't. I also have resorted to taste testing my urine. When you are excreting a ton of salt it is very obvious, LOL. I'm also using the taste tests here: http://www.psha-inc.com/guai-support/sf/TasteTests.htm In the book " Adrenal Fatigue, the 21st Century Stress Syndrome " the author L. has a lot of information on sodium. sol nah wrote: > I've tried adding extra > magnesium, but it's so laxative to my system that I fear they make all > nutrients leave my body so quickly that there's little absorption > taking place. > Mag does the same to me. > I do crave salt a bit. Maybe I'll try your theory of cleaner salt and > a little more of it. I'd like to hear how it goes if you do try it. sol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Wonder what would happen if you mixed in a teaspoon of glacier/rock flour with water? If it remineralizes soil, would it work for a human body? Or would it be toxic? If it's good enough for plants to ingest.............. -richard- > > Interesting data, Glo. Thanks! > > Speaking of lead in ceramics, in the last few years I've been slowly > replacing my dinnerware with Caleca brand, which according to their > website has no cadmium or lead in their pottery. Being 1/2 ish > (and what seems to be the dominant half), I've purchased various > patterns I like, piece by piece, mostly on Ebay. So I have a very > colorful, eclectic collection, which makes eating fun. > > Oops, now I can't find their official website. > > Also to do with minerals, lately I've been getting some awful leg/foot > cramps, and I suspect it's a mineral imbalance. I can't afford testing > just now. Am wondering if drinking too much water that's distilled > might be causing this. We have a reverse osmosis, 3-carbon filter > system. Any ideas? Maybe mineral water would be better for now? > > Thanks for all the great feedback. Great forum, especially when people > aren't being too contentious. [] > > nah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Is R-O water one purified thru Reversed Osmosis? Tony > > Interesting data, Glo. Thanks! > > Speaking of lead in ceramics, in the last few years I've been slowly > replacing my dinnerware with Caleca brand, which according to their > website has no cadmium or lead in their pottery. Being 1/2 ish > (and what seems to be the dominant half), I've purchased various > patterns I like, piece by piece, mostly on Ebay. So I have a very > colorful, eclectic collection, which makes eating fun. > > Oops, now I can't find their official website. > > Also to do with minerals, lately I've been getting some awful leg/foot > cramps, and I suspect it's a mineral imbalance. I can't afford testing > just now. Am wondering if drinking too much water that's distilled > might be causing this. We have a reverse osmosis, 3-carbon filter > system. Any ideas? Maybe mineral water would be better for now? > > Thanks for all the great feedback. Great forum, especially when people > aren't being too contentious. [] > > nah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 I wouldn't even know where to get any? But I could mix a teaspoon of DE in water and try that next time. It will be interesting to see what happens. I'll do that. sol Silva wrote: > Wonder what would happen if you mixed in a teaspoon of glacier/rock flour with water? If it remineralizes soil, would it work for a human body? Or would it be toxic? If it's good enough for plants to ingest.............. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 I had terrible leg cramps for months, topical magnesium oil was a Godsend for me.? Works every time.? I always keep some around.? Lately I don't seem to need it very often, but it works great when I do need it.? You can purchase it at LL Magnetic Clay. ?????????????????????????? Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Alobar, thank you. I'll do some more research on this and may try it. I'll keep you posted. nah > > I once knew someone who bought limestone gravel at a garden store, > washed, then boiled it. He then put about an inch of gravel into a > gallon jug, filled the jug with R-O water, and let it sit for several > days in the fridge. As he drank the water, he added fresh R-O water. > He felt this mineralized the water. I have no idea if it would > work. > > Alobar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Sol, thank you for all these suggestions. It will be easy enough to try the salt water. The link to the taste tests was interesting, too, and I've saved it. And I'll take a look at the book, because with my insomnia and anxiety, I do suspect an adrenal malfunction. Plus, there was the iodine, which seemed to trigger the whole mess in the first place. Another mineral. If I'm not mistaken, I do believe I have a couple little spots of psoriasis starting on one hand! Good grief. Fresh aloe from my garden is keeping it under control but not making it go away. Thanks again, and I will keep you posted. nah > > On the adrenal list I belong to, a suggestion is to try 1/2 tsp salt > (they always recommend sea salt) in a large glass of water, and see if > cramping or other symptoms abate or worsen. This tells you quickly if > the cause of the symptom is low sodium. > The other day when I had a high pulse rate, I drank a whole teaspoon of > salt in a glass of water, and then took my pulse again in an hour, and > it had gone back down to my normal. It may seem counter-intuitive, but > drinking salted water has also sometimes resolved edema for me, and > resulted in a LOT of trips to the bathroom. The reason for that is said > to be that when sodium is low, the body will hang onto water in order > not to lose any more salt. Give it the salt it needs, and it lets go of > the water. (Dr. , book title below) > > Your post reminded me that back 20 years or more ago, when I was eating > a very low salt diet and using a lot of potassium chloride, I did used > to have leg cramps frequently at night. Since I eat as much salt as I > crave these days I don't have them anymore. I go by my taste, when salt > tastes good I eat it, if it doesn't I don't. I also have resorted to > taste testing my urine. When you are excreting a ton of salt it is very > obvious, LOL. > I'm also using the taste tests here: > http://www.psha-inc.com/guai-support/sf/TasteTests.htm > > In the book " Adrenal Fatigue, the 21st Century Stress Syndrome " the > author L. has a lot of information on sodium. > sol > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 I am not a fan of iodine. It doesn't agree with me at all. sol nah wrote: > Plus, there was the iodine, which seemed to trigger the whole mess in > the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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