Enough Already

June 7, 2006

In a message dated 6/7/2006 1:42:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, nancygailus@... writes:

So why are you watching? Okay they did not have to break in with the news of who the Bikini Strangler is. Wait, perhaps they did. Don't you want this guy caught?

Actually I'm not watching. What frustrates me is that these get all the coverage when there is a lot more going on. Of course I want murders caught, but airing the story constantly isn't going to make that happen any sooner. Like I said, I wonder why these couple of murder merited so much more attention than the few thousand others that happen every year. On the cynical side I would say it was because the victims were telegenic, blonde white girls and that plays well with the target audiences. I could be wrong, but I think it is all a ratings ploy aimed at a very narrow section of the market.

June 7, 2006

So why are you watching? Okay they did not have to break in with the news of who the Bikini Strangler is. Wait, perhaps they did. Don't you want this guy caught? visigothcas72 <VISIGOTH@...> wrote: What is it with the news channels fixating on certain stories, particularly those of no real relevance, and then playing them until you want to smash the TV? First it was Natalee Halloway, a story covered almost 24/7 for months. Now there is the Bikini Strangler, that college girl in the dorm, and a handful of others. The channels just keep going

with this stuff. At the risk of sounding cruel: who cares! Sure its tragic for the family and friends, untimely death always is. But do these agencies actually think those few cases are so much more special than all the other murders every year that they need to be kept in our face all the time? Honestly there are far more important stories that will affect us in reality, not just emotionally. If you love something, set it free! So it is with books. See what I mean atwww.bookcrossing.com/friend/nheckoblogcritics.orghttp://notesfromnancy.blogspot.com Heckofreelance

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June 7, 2006

In a message dated 6/7/2006 2:50:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, drumthis2001@... writes:

America is too prosperous to understand that the bad news is the kids in China are still working in sweatshops, the kids in haiti are still eating dirt pies, people in Central America are still starving and North Korea is still hostile.

I don't think that prosperity is to blame for this. Studies show that the education system is so pathetic that most public school graduates can't even find Washington DC on a map or even their home states. They aren't any better when it comes to American history with most not being able to put the Civil War in the right time period with many not even knowing what it was.

If people know so little about their own country, why should they know or care about other parts of the world?

Most people just seem to think that the items in stores just magically appear there. They don't understand the chain of production, shipping and all that. All they want is the lowest prices. That much of our material comes from China where workers are virtual slaves, and much of that was shipped overseas from the US costing US jobs, doesn't enter their minds. Remember that most people work in the service sector with less than 20 percent in manufacturing. Combined with the poor education on economics and personal finance, and the afforementioned lack of geographic education, it is little wonder that people don't seem to care.

June 7, 2006

I have to laugh. I've been stuck in places where people were glued to their news channel like it was some kind of god. News will get anybody down. It's not good. The O'reilly factor shows a different side to the equation but really is based on shock value as well. There is no good news. America is too prosperous to understand that the bad news is the kids in China are still working in sweatshops, the kids in haiti are still eating dirt pies, people in Central America are still starving and North Korea is still hostile. VISIGOTH@... wrote: In a message dated 6/7/2006 1:42:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, nancygailus@... writes: So why are you watching? Okay they did not have to break in with the news of who the Bikini Strangler is. Wait, perhaps they did. Don't you want this guy caught? Actually I'm not watching. What frustrates me is that these get all the coverage when there is a lot more going on. Of course I want murders caught, but airing the story constantly isn't going to make that happen any sooner. Like I said, I wonder why these couple of murder merited so much more attention than the few thousand others that happen every year. On the cynical side I would say it was because the victims were telegenic,

blonde white girls and that plays well with the target audiences. I could be wrong, but I think it is all a ratings ploy aimed at a very narrow section of the market. __________________________________________________

June 7, 2006

I agree which is why I don't watch the news for the most part, if I turn it on its for the weather, I get my news information from the newspaper that way I can pick and choose what I want to watch. The news is regulated by the goverment, they can't tell us half of the stories that they want too, there is a lot of information supressed by our government. So in turn they fixate on the same stories that interest the multitudes and broadcast them over and over rather than looking for fresh new stories. Bethvisigothcas72 <VISIGOTH@...> wrote: What is it with the news channels fixating on certain stories, particularly those of no real relevance, and then playing them until you want to smash the TV? First it was Natalee Halloway, a story covered almost 24/7 for months. Now there is the Bikini Strangler, that college girl in the dorm, and a handful of others. The channels just keep going with this stuff. At the risk of sounding cruel: who cares! Sure its tragic for the family and friends, untimely death always is. But do these agencies actually think those few cases are so much more special than all the other murders every year that they need to be kept in our face all the time? Honestly there are far more important stories that will affect us in reality, not just emotionally. __________________________________________________

June 8, 2006

In a message dated 6/7/2006 9:30:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, drumthis2001@... writes:

White girls are being sold into slavery. They were originally taken from the Bahamas. That's where all this crap started. Who knows where white prostitute slave girls are being sold or if their body parts are being taken from them.

White slavery has been going on for some time. In Eastern Europe and the Balkans it is supposed to be really bad. Asia has its share of it too. China's one child policy and a preference for male children is going to mean there will be at least 70 million more men in China than women in the next couple of decades. Already women are leaving North Korea thinking they are being smuggled to freedom only to be sold to a Chinese husband. The stories I have read say the men treat them very badly because North Korean women in those cases are considered fugitives and are sought after by the police as it is. If the woman is turned over, probably nothing will happen to the man, but she will be sent back to North Korea where she will probably end up in one of their death camps. Or is she is lucky she will simply be sold on to the next Chinese man.

A professor friend of mine took her family, three young children included, on a sabatical to Western Africa, in 2001. I really lost a lot of respect for her taking her family into a war zone where bad things were going on. Not to mention that she was there when 9/11 happened. They could have been stranded over there. She said it was a scary time then. No kidding I thought. I mean the country she was in only had a civil war going on and all the neighboring ones were in worse shape. Only after 9/11 it was scary?

June 8, 2006

In a message dated 6/7/2006 9:27:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, drumthis2001@... writes:

If people are so stupid that they don't know where their state is, they can all live together on an island and the military can send them cheap junk crap from airplanes. They can all live in one big mudhole for all I care.

That's a little extreme. Personally I favor having voters pass the same test we give legal immigrants before we grant them citizenship, perhaps more detailed since they have lived here all their lives. If they don't pass, they don't get to vote. If they don't pass, they can take the test again, in five years, which is the length of time a legal immigrant has to behave and learn before becoming a citizen.

One of Democracy's greatest faults is the belief that more voters equals more wisdom. It doesn't. It requires and educated and informed populace to function best. If that population also has a self-reliant streak, even better as demands for government services will be smaller. If they are distrustful enough of politicians to following their voting and spending records, perfect.

June 8, 2006

Downloaded Beta for Windows XP. Still getting used to it. 1st Amendement-freedom of speech press religion petition and assembly. Yes, things can be kept if say it relates to National Security. An ethical reporter will try and get both sides, but if someone chooses not to talk, it's their decision. And sometimes news personalities will not mention something if it hinders an investigation or death is involved and family members have been notified. Some stories should be stuck with, don't cha think? Otherwise, they might fade away from our thoughts, or it's not good. Katrina, for example. beth sullivan <dksunglsses@...> wrote: The news is regulated by the goverment, they can't tell us half of the stories that they want too, there is a lot of information supressed by our government. So in turn they fixate on the same stories that interest the multitudes and broadcast them over and over rather than looking for fresh new stories. Bethvisigothcas72 <VISIGOTH@...> wrote: . __________________________________________________

June 8, 2006

In a message dated 6/7/2006 7:09:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, dksunglsses@... writes:

Not stuck with to a point where young white girls murdered are all over the news, but that other ethnicities are left out, that is happening in PA, If your white you get all of the press, but if your another race or color, your ignored, or given a little blurb or a one shot deal. Honestly I believe we should be getting more and more realistic coverage on the war rather than dwelling on one or two cases where white girls were murdered, frankly I agree with Willaim on this. I happen to know some reporters personally and yes a lot of the news that they would like to report is supressed by the govt, if they would like to sue and spend years and years in court trying to get a story out that to govt doesn't want us to know they will get tied up in so much legal paper work it would be unbelievably out of date by the time it makes air. Don't let the ammendments fool you yes they are there to protect us but so much red tape has been put up by officials over the years, that alot of stuff just doesn't get through to the people, we only read and see what the govt wants us to see.

Beth

I don't know that we need more realistic coverage of the war as that would turn it into a movie of the new pornography of violence genre (mostly on the web where sites have clips of real war, killings, beatings and so forth). I think we should go back to daily briefings of what is going on with all the reporters in a pool. Most of them spend all of their time in the Green Zone having parties anyway, which is why so many bombs go off near there: so the news crews can film them from the comfort of their hotel balconies.

Rather the news should be focussing on how most of Iraq is improving, school have been built, power and water are up and there isn't much violence. Some parts of US cities are more dangerous now than parts of Iraq. The Sunni Triangle is a problem because that was Sadaam's tribal area.

Some of the Shiite areas in the east are also a problem, but mostly one of our own making. As has happened so many times in the past, there was an effort, lead by Rumsfeld, to fight the war "on the cheap". He did this by cutting two whole divisions from the order of battle. As has happened in the past, fighting a war on the cheap was bad. Had those two extra divisions been available, they would have been able to secure the Shiite and certain other areas behind the main advance. It was those places that were lawless and wild for months because there was no force to maintain order. To make up for that, the Shia were allowed to form militias for self-protection. Unfortunately, some of those militias were taken over by radicals who turned around and bit us. Had those two divisions been in there, there would have been no need for local militias, or at least not to become as powerful as they are now.

To understand the First Amendment, you have to understand the climate in which it was written. Censorship and arrest were widespread by the British who were trying to quell a rebellion, which was being brought about by their poor treatment of the colonies. The First was meant to protect political speech and the ability of the press to honestly scrutinize the government. However, the politicians have undermined this with the McCaine-Finegold Campaign Finance Act and other laws that stifle opposition to incumbents. The press as been to busy with trivia or otherwise distracted by their own agendas to report on issues like this. The people don't care because they think freedom of speech means raunchy music, pornographic movies and cursing in public. Well, everyone, especially the press, is going to be surprised one day just how far the camel has crept into the tent.

June 8, 2006

Not stuck with to a point where young white girls murdered are all over the news, but that other ethnicities are left out, that is happening in PA, If your white you get all of the press, but if your another race or color, your ignored, or given a little blurb or a one shot deal. Honestly I believe we should be getting more and more realistic coverage on the war rather than dwelling on one or two cases where white girls were murdered, frankly I agree with Willaim on this. I happen to know some reporters personally and yes a lot of the news that they would like to report is supressed by the govt, if they would like to sue and spend years and years in court trying to get a story out that to govt doesn't want us to know they will get tied up in so much legal paper work it would be unbelievably out of date by the time it makes air. Don't let the ammendments fool you yes they are there to protect us but so much red tape has been put up by officials

over the years, that alot of stuff just doesn't get through to the people, we only read and see what the govt wants us to see. Beth Hecko <nancygailus@...> wrote: Downloaded Beta for Windows XP. Still getting used to it. 1st Amendement-freedom of speech press religion petition and assembly. Yes, things can be kept if say it relates to National Security. An ethical reporter will try and get both sides, but if someone chooses not to talk, it's their decision. And sometimes news personalities will not mention something if it

hinders an investigation or death is involved and family members have been notified. Some stories should be stuck with, don't cha think? Otherwise, they might fade away from our thoughts, or it's not good. Katrina, for example. beth sullivan <dksunglsses@...> wrote: The news is regulated by the goverment, they can't tell us half of the stories that they want too, there is a lot of information supressed by our government. So in turn they fixate on the same stories that interest the multitudes and broadcast them over and over rather than looking for fresh new stories. Bethvisigothcas72 <VISIGOTH@...> wrote: . __________________________________________________

June 8, 2006

My grandparents taught me all the states and their capitals when I was 4 yrs old. If people are so stupid that they don't know where their state is, they can all live together on an island and the military can send them cheap junk crap from airplanes. They can all live in one big mudhole for all I care. And yes, it is true that China is being turned into a slave market. VISIGOTH@... wrote: In a message dated 6/7/2006 2:50:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, drumthis2001@... writes: America is too prosperous to understand that the bad news is the kids in China are still working in sweatshops, the kids in haiti are still eating dirt pies, people in Central America are still starving and North Korea is still hostile. I don't think that prosperity is to blame for this. Studies show that the education system is so pathetic that most public school graduates can't even find Washington DC on a map or even their home states. They aren't any better when it comes to American history with most not being able to put the Civil War in the right time period with many not even knowing what it was. If people know so little about their own country, why should they know or care about other parts of the world? Most people just seem to think that

the items in stores just magically appear there. They don't understand the chain of production, shipping and all that. All they want is the lowest prices. That much of our material comes from China where workers are virtual slaves, and much of that was shipped overseas from the US costing US jobs, doesn't enter their minds. Remember that most people work in the service sector with less than 20 percent in manufacturing. Combined with the poor education on economics and personal finance, and the afforementioned lack of geographic education, it is little wonder that people don't seem to care. __________________________________________________

June 8, 2006

White girls are being sold into slavery. They were originally taken from the Bahamas. That's where all this crap started. Who knows where white prostitute slave girls are being sold or if their body parts are being taken from them. beth sullivan <dksunglsses@...> wrote: Not stuck with to a point where young white girls murdered are all over the news, but that other ethnicities are left out, that is happening in PA, If your white you get all of the press, but if your another race or color, your ignored, or given a little blurb or a one shot deal.

Honestly I believe we should be getting more and more realistic coverage on the war rather than dwelling on one or two cases where white girls were murdered, frankly I agree with Willaim on this. I happen to know some reporters personally and yes a lot of the news that they would like to report is supressed by the govt, if they would like to sue and spend years and years in court trying to get a story out that to govt doesn't want us to know they will get tied up in so much legal paper work it would be unbelievably out of date by the time it makes air. Don't let the ammendments fool you yes they are there to protect us but so much red tape has been put up by officials over the years, that alot of stuff just doesn't get through to the people, we only read and see what the govt wants us to see. Beth Hecko <nancygailus@...> wrote: Downloaded Beta for Windows XP. Still getting used to it. 1st Amendement-freedom of speech press religion petition and assembly. Yes, things can be kept if say it relates to National Security. An ethical reporter will try and get both sides, but if someone chooses not to talk, it's their decision. And sometimes news personalities will not mention something if it hinders an investigation or death is involved and family members have been notified. Some stories should be stuck with, don't cha think? Otherwise, they might fade away from our thoughts, or it's not good. Katrina, for example. beth sullivan <dksunglsses@...> wrote: The news is regulated by the goverment, they can't tell us half of the stories that they want too, there is a lot of information supressed by our government. So in turn they

fixate on the same stories that interest the multitudes and broadcast them over and over rather than looking for fresh new stories. Bethvisigothcas72 <VISIGOTH@...> wrote: . __________________________________________________

June 8, 2006

All good solutions. People's humanity not doubt interferes with the

agenda and that's where Abraham Lincoln and women like Betty Friedan

had seen the injustice. I wonder though. If misinformed citizens

weren't so slaphappy about where to put their ballot then politicians

may actually start having more passion about their work and a little

more respect for the people. It would be easy to let things go to

hell for a politician because they have no enemies and no challenge.

The education you speak of is of course horrid. Germany and Japan are

light years ahead of America. America seems to think that putting

lights on erasers so that they'll flash when one presses their finger

against them is progress. Capitalism has it's merits. One of the

other faults that fails to get addressed is the fact that there are

Americans who just don't have the brains to go to school and learn

anything. They should be given a job early to help the economy not

tear it down. It doesn't sound communist to me. Then there are people

who are made for learning in schools and the money could be spent on

more quality things instead of an institution-like atmosphere.

Passion is what is lacking and I'm not sure why. The word paranoia

strikes fear in the hearts of people to this day and the media is

perfect at destroying anyone's reputation and I have to agree, the

media complain about stuff that doesn't directly affect America and

never give the real story on anything because they are controlled by

the gov't. Corporations are at the heart of all the scams. Rumsfeld

was the boss of the company that made Aspartame (the poison sugar)

before being secretary of defense. Aspartame is a company owned by

Monstanto, the makers of round-up and all the GMO foods in 75% of the

world. The members of congress are filth who need to be taken to be

fed the poison they've been feeding the unsuspecting public, then

displayed in a metal cage out in the sun just like they did to many

pirates back in the day.

>

> In a message dated 6/7/2006 9:27:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> drumthis2001@... writes:

>

> If people are so stupid that they don't know where their state is,

they can

> all live together on an island and the military can send them

cheap junk crap

> from airplanes. They can all live in one big mudhole for all I

care.

>

> That's a little extreme. Personally I favor having voters pass the

same test

> we give legal immigrants before we grant them citizenship, perhaps

more

> detailed since they have lived here all their lives. If they don't

pass, they

> don't get to vote. If they don't pass, they can take the test

again, in five

> years, which is the length of time a legal immigrant has to behave

and learn

> before becoming a citizen.

>

> One of Democracy's greatest faults is the belief that more voters

equals

> more wisdom. It doesn't. It requires and educated and informed

populace to

> function best. If that population also has a self-reliant streak,

even better as

> demands for government services will be smaller. If they are

distrustful enough

> of politicians to following their voting and spending records,

perfect.

>

June 8, 2006

>

> " But do these agencies

> actually think those few cases are so much more special than all the

> other murders every year that they need to be kept in our face all

the

> time? "

I agree. It's all about selling the story. Often I'll hear about

something locally or be a witness to it and it will never make the

news. Not all crime is in the news, which is scary.

June 8, 2006

In a message dated 6/7/2006

1:42:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, nancygailus@... writes:

> So why are you watching? Okay they did not have to break in

with the news of who the Bikini Strangler is. Wait, perhaps they did.

Don't you want this guy caught?

>

> Actually I'm not watching. What frustrates me is that these get

all the coverage when there is a lot more going on. Of course I want

murders caught, but airing the story constantly isn't going to make

that happen any sooner. Like I said, I wonder why these couple of

murder merited so much more attention than the few thousand others

that happen every year. On the cynical side I would say it was

because the victims were telegenic, blonde white girls and that plays

well with the target audiences. I could be wrong, but I think it is

all a ratings ploy aimed at a very narrow section of the market.

>

> __________________________________________________

>

June 8, 2006