Re: tips for health on talk show.... rant

[Guest guest]

hmmm my comments (rant) below.

-----Original Message-----

From: Francesca Skelton [mailto:fskelton@...]

Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 12:03 PM

support group

Subject: [ ] tips for health on talk show

On a popular talk show yesterday they had tips for longer life/better

health. These were given by the RealAge doctor (Dr Roizen - sp?) who runs

a RealAge websiteand by some other doctors on the show :

1) Use a paper filter when making coffee (even though there may be a metal

coffee filter in your machine) - it seems that the paper filters out some

bad stuff in coffee leaving only the beneficial ingredients.

***********

I roast my own coffee from green beans and find this advice curious. I use

both metal (gold) and paper. They both have different characteristics. The

paper traps more sediment but holds the brew longer for a longer

extraction.... I'd like to see some real data on this. Most coffee research

I've read has not controlled for bean type, origination, or roast profile.

GIGO

2) eat the skins of fruits such as apples

************

For about a year now, I've been peeling the skin off my one apple a day.

There have been reports of heavy pesticide use and significant accumulation

in the skin. I get plenty of fiber in the rest of my diet and I'm probably

discarding a few calories with the peel.

3) eating pumpkin is beneficial for the skin

*************

There is a small amount of pumpkin in my modest (50G) daily " Binging

Brownie "

4) Whole grains lower cholesterol and is associated with long life

***********

Perhaps compared to simple sugars, I personally consume minimal amounts of

grain getting my fiber elsewhere.

5) spinach is among the healthiest of veggies and is good for the eyes

****

Gee... I thought that was carrots?

6) 1/2 aspirin a day keeps the doctor away (162.5 mg)

********

Perhaps for SAD eaters who have poor fat balance, and relatively high level

of inflammation. If you already have good heart health and thin blood,

thinning it further could be problematic.

7) eat a bit of healthy fat before dinner for greater satiety

*******

Huh?, eat healthy fat, healthy protein, and healthy carbohydrates for

dinner.

Sorry for the rant.....End

JR

PS to answer the question yesterday about what recipes I use Guar in, both

are baked goods, Sherm's " Binging Brownie " , and " Mega Muffin " . These recipes

are published on the web but I'll provide links if you can't find them.

[Guest guest]

Sherm's Megamuffins are published on pg 308 of " Beyond " (sometimes I wonder

if people read the book!)

You're absolutely right about some of these tips . But others may be

useful. I had never heard of the paper filter and see no harm in using it

(just in case). And I had never heard about pumpkin before and would be

curious (if anyone knows) why it would be beneficial (if true).

Rants are Ok. But sarcasm doesn't help us get to the facts.

on 2/19/2004 1:39 PM, john roberts at johnhrob@... wrote:

> hmmm my comments (rant) below.

>

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Francesca Skelton [mailto:fskelton@...]

> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 12:03 PM

> support group

> Subject: [ ] tips for health on talk show

>

>

> On a popular talk show yesterday they had tips for longer life/better

> health. These were given by the RealAge doctor (Dr Roizen - sp?) who runs

> a RealAge websiteand by some other doctors on the show :

>

> 1) Use a paper filter when making coffee (even though there may be a metal

> coffee filter in your machine) - it seems that the paper filters out some

> bad stuff in coffee leaving only the beneficial ingredients.

> ***********

> I roast my own coffee from green beans and find this advice curious. I use

> both metal (gold) and paper. They both have different characteristics. The

> paper traps more sediment but holds the brew longer for a longer

> extraction.... I'd like to see some real data on this. Most coffee research

> I've read has not controlled for bean type, origination, or roast profile.

> GIGO

>

>

> 2) eat the skins of fruits such as apples

> ************

> For about a year now, I've been peeling the skin off my one apple a day.

> There have been reports of heavy pesticide use and significant accumulation

> in the skin. I get plenty of fiber in the rest of my diet and I'm probably

> discarding a few calories with the peel.

>

> 3) eating pumpkin is beneficial for the skin

> *************

> There is a small amount of pumpkin in my modest (50G) daily " Binging

> Brownie "

>

> 4) Whole grains lower cholesterol and is associated with long life

> ***********

> Perhaps compared to simple sugars, I personally consume minimal amounts of

> grain getting my fiber elsewhere.

>

> 5) spinach is among the healthiest of veggies and is good for the eyes

> ****

> Gee... I thought that was carrots?

>

> 6) 1/2 aspirin a day keeps the doctor away (162.5 mg)

> ********

> Perhaps for SAD eaters who have poor fat balance, and relatively high level

> of inflammation. If you already have good heart health and thin blood,

> thinning it further could be problematic.

>

> 7) eat a bit of healthy fat before dinner for greater satiety

> *******

> Huh?, eat healthy fat, healthy protein, and healthy carbohydrates for

> dinner.

>

>

> Sorry for the rant.....End

>

> JR

>

> PS to answer the question yesterday about what recipes I use Guar in, both

> are baked goods, Sherm's " Binging Brownie " , and " Mega Muffin " . These recipes

> are published on the web but I'll provide links if you can't find them.

[Guest guest]

I've read about the coffee issue before:

In the past, raised cholesterol levels associated with coffee consumption

have been linked to a greater risk of developing cardiovascular disease. The

coffee/cholesterol debate has been conducted for many years, however, the

substances in coffee responsible for the cholesterol raising effect have now

been identified as being the diterpenes cafestol and kahweol. The method of

brewing which has been shown consistently to release sufficient amounts of

these oils to have any significant effect on raising cholesterol levels is

the Scandinavian boiled method, where the coffee grounds are boiled together

with water and then served without filtering. The effect disappears

completely when the coffee is poured through a paper filter before serving.

Coffee, prepared by other popular European brewing methods, is known to

contain negligible amounts, if any, of these oils. Consumers' cholesterol

levels will not be significantly raised by normal coffee consumption, nor

will they be increasing the risk of developing cardiovascular disease.

>From: Francesca Skelton <fskelton@...>

>Reply-

>< >

>Subject: Re: [ ] tips for health on talk show.... rant

>Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 13:51:51 -0500

>

>Sherm's Megamuffins are published on pg 308 of " Beyond " (sometimes I

>wonder

>if people read the book!)

>

>You're absolutely right about some of these tips . But others may be

>useful. I had never heard of the paper filter and see no harm in using it

>(just in case). And I had never heard about pumpkin before and would be

>curious (if anyone knows) why it would be beneficial (if true).

>

>Rants are Ok. But sarcasm doesn't help us get to the facts.

>

>

>on 2/19/2004 1:39 PM, john roberts at johnhrob@... wrote:

>

> > hmmm my comments (rant) below.

> >

> >

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: Francesca Skelton [mailto:fskelton@...]

> > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 12:03 PM

> > support group

> > Subject: [ ] tips for health on talk show

> >

> >

> > On a popular talk show yesterday they had tips for longer life/better

> > health. These were given by the RealAge doctor (Dr Roizen - sp?) who

>runs

> > a RealAge websiteand by some other doctors on the show :

> >

> > 1) Use a paper filter when making coffee (even though there may be a

>metal

> > coffee filter in your machine) - it seems that the paper filters out

>some

> > bad stuff in coffee leaving only the beneficial ingredients.

> > ***********

> > I roast my own coffee from green beans and find this advice curious. I

>use

> > both metal (gold) and paper. They both have different characteristics.

>The

> > paper traps more sediment but holds the brew longer for a longer

> > extraction.... I'd like to see some real data on this. Most coffee

>research

> > I've read has not controlled for bean type, origination, or roast

>profile.

> > GIGO

> >

> >

> > 2) eat the skins of fruits such as apples

> > ************

> > For about a year now, I've been peeling the skin off my one apple a day.

> > There have been reports of heavy pesticide use and significant

>accumulation

> > in the skin. I get plenty of fiber in the rest of my diet and I'm

>probably

> > discarding a few calories with the peel.

> >

> > 3) eating pumpkin is beneficial for the skin

> > *************

> > There is a small amount of pumpkin in my modest (50G) daily " Binging

> > Brownie "

> >

> > 4) Whole grains lower cholesterol and is associated with long life

> > ***********

> > Perhaps compared to simple sugars, I personally consume minimal amounts

>of

> > grain getting my fiber elsewhere.

> >

> > 5) spinach is among the healthiest of veggies and is good for the eyes

> > ****

> > Gee... I thought that was carrots?

> >

> > 6) 1/2 aspirin a day keeps the doctor away (162.5 mg)

> > ********

> > Perhaps for SAD eaters who have poor fat balance, and relatively high

>level

> > of inflammation. If you already have good heart health and thin blood,

> > thinning it further could be problematic.

> >

> > 7) eat a bit of healthy fat before dinner for greater satiety

> > *******

> > Huh?, eat healthy fat, healthy protein, and healthy carbohydrates for

> > dinner.

> >

> >

> > Sorry for the rant.....End

> >

> > JR

> >

> > PS to answer the question yesterday about what recipes I use Guar in,

>both

> > are baked goods, Sherm's " Binging Brownie " , and " Mega Muffin " . These

>recipes

> > are published on the web but I'll provide links if you can't find them.

>

[Guest guest]

Spinach for eyesight:

Carotenoids protect eyes. Research shows that dark green leafy vegetables --

especially spinach, collard or turnip greens, and kale -- may protect

eyesight.

Lutein and zeaxanthin in these vegetables are thought to be the protective

elements. These pigments are found in concentrated amounts in the retina and

protect eyes in two ways. First, they filter out the most damaging portion

of the UV spectrum -- blue light. Second, they act as antioxidants, which

protect against the oxidation of lipids in the eye.

Studies have shown there are low levels of these two nutrients in the

retinas of people with both ARMD and cataracts. In addition, people with eye

disease typically have low intakes of foods rich in lutein and zeaxanthin.

Researchers believe that these antioxicant nutrients may not only help

prevent eye disease from occurring, but may help stop further deterioration

of existing conditions. So it's never too late to start making changes, even

if some eye damage has already occurred.

While spinach, kale, and collard or turnip greens contain the largest

amounts of lutein and zeaxanthin, other fruits and vegetables are also

fairly good sources: corn, broccoli, Romaine lettuce, zucchini, green peas,

Brussels sprouts, oranges, kiwi, red seedless grapes, papayas, and

tangerines. Your best bet is to eat these foods three to four times each

week, as well as a variety of other produce, with a goal of five or more

total servings every day.

>From: Francesca Skelton <fskelton@...>

>Reply-

>< >

>Subject: Re: [ ] tips for health on talk show.... rant

>Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 13:51:51 -0500

>

>Sherm's Megamuffins are published on pg 308 of " Beyond " (sometimes I

>wonder

>if people read the book!)

>

>You're absolutely right about some of these tips . But others may be

>useful. I had never heard of the paper filter and see no harm in using it

>(just in case). And I had never heard about pumpkin before and would be

>curious (if anyone knows) why it would be beneficial (if true).

>

>Rants are Ok. But sarcasm doesn't help us get to the facts.

>

>

>on 2/19/2004 1:39 PM, john roberts at johnhrob@... wrote:

>

> > hmmm my comments (rant) below.

> >

> >

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: Francesca Skelton [mailto:fskelton@...]

> > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 12:03 PM

> > support group

> > Subject: [ ] tips for health on talk show

> >

> >

> > On a popular talk show yesterday they had tips for longer life/better

> > health. These were given by the RealAge doctor (Dr Roizen - sp?) who

>runs

> > a RealAge websiteand by some other doctors on the show :

> >

> > 1) Use a paper filter when making coffee (even though there may be a

>metal

> > coffee filter in your machine) - it seems that the paper filters out

>some

> > bad stuff in coffee leaving only the beneficial ingredients.

> > ***********

> > I roast my own coffee from green beans and find this advice curious. I

>use

> > both metal (gold) and paper. They both have different characteristics.

>The

> > paper traps more sediment but holds the brew longer for a longer

> > extraction.... I'd like to see some real data on this. Most coffee

>research

> > I've read has not controlled for bean type, origination, or roast

>profile.

> > GIGO

> >

> >

> > 2) eat the skins of fruits such as apples

> > ************

> > For about a year now, I've been peeling the skin off my one apple a day.

> > There have been reports of heavy pesticide use and significant

>accumulation

> > in the skin. I get plenty of fiber in the rest of my diet and I'm

>probably

> > discarding a few calories with the peel.

> >

> > 3) eating pumpkin is beneficial for the skin

> > *************

> > There is a small amount of pumpkin in my modest (50G) daily " Binging

> > Brownie "

> >

> > 4) Whole grains lower cholesterol and is associated with long life

> > ***********

> > Perhaps compared to simple sugars, I personally consume minimal amounts

>of

> > grain getting my fiber elsewhere.

> >

> > 5) spinach is among the healthiest of veggies and is good for the eyes

> > ****

> > Gee... I thought that was carrots?

> >

> > 6) 1/2 aspirin a day keeps the doctor away (162.5 mg)

> > ********

> > Perhaps for SAD eaters who have poor fat balance, and relatively high

>level

> > of inflammation. If you already have good heart health and thin blood,

> > thinning it further could be problematic.

> >

> > 7) eat a bit of healthy fat before dinner for greater satiety

> > *******

> > Huh?, eat healthy fat, healthy protein, and healthy carbohydrates for

> > dinner.

> >

> >

> > Sorry for the rant.....End

> >

> > JR

> >

> > PS to answer the question yesterday about what recipes I use Guar in,

>both

> > are baked goods, Sherm's " Binging Brownie " , and " Mega Muffin " . These

>recipes

> > are published on the web but I'll provide links if you can't find them.

>

[Guest guest]

Aspirin:

Well, dunno, but aspirin appears to have many beneficial effects:

association with lower rates of colon cancer, prostate cancer, breast

cancer, Hodgin's Lymphoma, dementia, etc. as well as thrombosis and

cardiovascular events.

>From: Francesca Skelton <fskelton@...>

>Reply-

>< >

>Subject: Re: [ ] tips for health on talk show.... rant

>Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 13:51:51 -0500

>

>Sherm's Megamuffins are published on pg 308 of " Beyond " (sometimes I

>wonder

>if people read the book!)

>

>You're absolutely right about some of these tips . But others may be

>useful. I had never heard of the paper filter and see no harm in using it

>(just in case). And I had never heard about pumpkin before and would be

>curious (if anyone knows) why it would be beneficial (if true).

>

>Rants are Ok. But sarcasm doesn't help us get to the facts.

>

>

>on 2/19/2004 1:39 PM, john roberts at johnhrob@... wrote:

>

> > hmmm my comments (rant) below.

> >

> >

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: Francesca Skelton [mailto:fskelton@...]

> > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 12:03 PM

> > support group

> > Subject: [ ] tips for health on talk show

> >

> >

> > On a popular talk show yesterday they had tips for longer life/better

> > health. These were given by the RealAge doctor (Dr Roizen - sp?) who

>runs

> > a RealAge websiteand by some other doctors on the show :

> >

> > 1) Use a paper filter when making coffee (even though there may be a

>metal

> > coffee filter in your machine) - it seems that the paper filters out

>some

> > bad stuff in coffee leaving only the beneficial ingredients.

> > ***********

> > I roast my own coffee from green beans and find this advice curious. I

>use

> > both metal (gold) and paper. They both have different characteristics.

>The

> > paper traps more sediment but holds the brew longer for a longer

> > extraction.... I'd like to see some real data on this. Most coffee

>research

> > I've read has not controlled for bean type, origination, or roast

>profile.

> > GIGO

> >

> >

> > 2) eat the skins of fruits such as apples

> > ************

> > For about a year now, I've been peeling the skin off my one apple a day.

> > There have been reports of heavy pesticide use and significant

>accumulation

> > in the skin. I get plenty of fiber in the rest of my diet and I'm

>probably

> > discarding a few calories with the peel.

> >

> > 3) eating pumpkin is beneficial for the skin

> > *************

> > There is a small amount of pumpkin in my modest (50G) daily " Binging

> > Brownie "

> >

> > 4) Whole grains lower cholesterol and is associated with long life

> > ***********

> > Perhaps compared to simple sugars, I personally consume minimal amounts

>of

> > grain getting my fiber elsewhere.

> >

> > 5) spinach is among the healthiest of veggies and is good for the eyes

> > ****

> > Gee... I thought that was carrots?

> >

> > 6) 1/2 aspirin a day keeps the doctor away (162.5 mg)

> > ********

> > Perhaps for SAD eaters who have poor fat balance, and relatively high

>level

> > of inflammation. If you already have good heart health and thin blood,

> > thinning it further could be problematic.

> >

> > 7) eat a bit of healthy fat before dinner for greater satiety

> > *******

> > Huh?, eat healthy fat, healthy protein, and healthy carbohydrates for

> > dinner.

> >

> >

> > Sorry for the rant.....End

> >

> > JR

> >

> > PS to answer the question yesterday about what recipes I use Guar in,

>both

> > are baked goods, Sherm's " Binging Brownie " , and " Mega Muffin " . These

>recipes

> > are published on the web but I'll provide links if you can't find them.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi All,

I have read believable publications that paper filters reduce fats

that are risks for the cardiovascular system. The difference between

filtered or instant coffee versus perked or Turkish coffee is small

but significant.

GIGO = Garbage In, Garbage Out

Cheers, Al Pater.

--- In , " john roberts " <johnhrob@n...>

wrote:

> hmmm my comments (rant) below.

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Francesca Skelton [mailto:fskelton@e...]

> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 12:03 PM

> support group

> Subject: [ ] tips for health on talk show

>

>

> On a popular talk show yesterday they had tips for longer

life/better

> health. These were given by the RealAge doctor (Dr Roizen - sp?)

who runs

> a RealAge websiteand by some other doctors on the show :

>

> 1) Use a paper filter when making coffee (even though there may be

a metal

> coffee filter in your machine) - it seems that the paper filters

out some

> bad stuff in coffee leaving only the beneficial ingredients.

> ***********

> I roast my own coffee from green beans and find this advice

curious. I use

> both metal (gold) and paper. They both have different

characteristics. The

> paper traps more sediment but holds the brew longer for a longer

> extraction.... I'd like to see some real data on this. Most coffee

research

> I've read has not controlled for bean type, origination, or roast

profile.

> GIGO