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Rodney, I have read similar information about need to eat garlic raw &

uncooked for the "true" benefit. Have read a number of "swear on a bible"

testomonies from listmembers on another group. I like your way of eating

it... sounds like something I could do. But I do worry about the smell!

Questions for you if you wouldn't mind too much: 1. I thought part of

garlic smell was from sweating the scent from skin ... not just from mouth/breath.

Do you think that's true? 2. Could you smell it yourself if you did? 3.

Do you feel any immediate effect from eating the garlic? (ie. burning in

stomach, surge of energy... I've read of both effects from others). 4. You

prefer not to eat it with food?

Rodney wrote:

Hi Bernadette:

Yes. Approximately weekly (along with my mostly-weekly supplements) I cut up one large garlic clove into pill-size pieces and swallow them as if they are pills - without chewing.

This way I get raw garlic into my intestine in such a way that people don't cross to the other side of the street as I approach. I believe the Iowa Women's Health Study found that the food product most protective against colon cancer was raw garlic.

Also, my lady friend had a tiny red pimple on her eye lid. Her opthalmologist, seeing it, suggested eating garlic. She did. It disappeared.

About a year later I had a similar pimple on my eye lid. Same treatment. Same result.

There does seem to be quite a lot of evidence of the benefits of garlic. One study I read found that powdered garlic (presumably includes tablet form) had none of the benefits. It is, of course, a member of the onion family with all the benefits of sulforaphane that the family confers.

Rodney.

I've read that garlic is great for immunity, so in addition to green

tea extracts I've been taking garlic (in a nonstinking form...an

indelicate way of putting it.)

Anyone else taking garlic?

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Rodney (or anyone): I've read that cooked (roasted) garlic holds the same

benefits. Can you point to anything that claims that it has to be raw.

FWIW, I cook the cloves in the microwave very lightly (30 sec or so) and it

has aborted many colds around here.

on 3/15/2004 11:02 PM, Rodney at perspect1111@... wrote:

> Hi Bernadette:

>

> Yes. Approximately weekly (along with my mostly-weekly supplements)

> I cut up one large garlic clove into pill-size pieces and swallow

> them as if they are pills - without chewing.

>

> This way I get raw garlic into my intestine in such a way that people

> don't cross to the other side of the street as I approach.

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My understanding is that the garlic small gets into the bloodstream and goes everywhere blood goes. Is will certainly be present in your breath as the blood travels through your lungs, a lesser amount will probably find it's way into perspiration.

I have never been able to smell it upon myself, but recall visiting a friend who had eaten some... his whole house reeked of the smell... the best defense is to eat some yourself.

I typically dose 2-3 (raw) cloves cut into smaller pieces to make it easier to swallow and consumed with a little juice. While it varies with how much and how strong the garlic is, I do believe I perceive a sensation in my stomach immediately after consumption... not painful but not exactly pleasant.

I have no idea if cooking reduces it's affectivity, but my "gut feeling" (is that were that saying comes from?), is that raw real garlic is stronger than no-smell capsules, or cooked....

YMMV

JR

-----Original Message-----From: apricot85 [mailto:apricot85@...]Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 11:28 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Garlic?Rodney, I have read similar information about need to eat garlic raw & uncooked for the "true" benefit. Have read a number of "swear on a bible" testomonies from listmembers on another group. I like your way of eating it... sounds like something I could do. But I do worry about the smell! Questions for you if you wouldn't mind too much: 1. I thought part of garlic smell was from sweating the scent from skin ... not just from mouth/breath. Do you think that's true? 2. Could you smell it yourself if you did? 3. Do you feel any immediate effect from eating the garlic? (ie. burning in stomach, surge of energy... I've read of both effects from others). 4. You prefer not to eat it with food? Rodney wrote:

Hi Bernadette:

Yes. Approximately weekly (along with my mostly-weekly supplements) I cut up one large garlic clove into pill-size pieces and swallow them as if they are pills - without chewing.

This way I get raw garlic into my intestine in such a way that people don't cross to the other side of the street as I approach. I believe the Iowa Women's Health Study found that the food product most protective against colon cancer was raw garlic.

Also, my lady friend had a tiny red pimple on her eye lid. Her opthalmologist, seeing it, suggested eating garlic. She did. It disappeared.

About a year later I had a similar pimple on my eye lid. Same treatment. Same result.

There does seem to be quite a lot of evidence of the benefits of garlic. One study I read found that powdered garlic (presumably includes tablet form) had none of the benefits. It is, of course, a member of the onion family with all the benefits of sulforaphane that the family confers.

Rodney.

I've read that garlic is great for immunity, so in addition to green

tea extracts I've been taking garlic (in a nonstinking form...an

indelicate way of putting it.)

Anyone else taking garlic?

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Garlic apparently does permiate the body: my wife has pretty much forbidden

me to eat it (except rarely, in small quantities, such as in pesto, etc.)

'cause she said it " oozed " out of me and made the bed sheets, my clothes,

etc. reek of garlic.

>From: " john roberts " <johnhrob@...>

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>< >

>Subject: RE: [ ] Re: Garlic?

>Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 08:26:28 -0600

>

>My understanding is that the garlic small gets into the bloodstream and

>goes

>everywhere blood goes. Is will certainly be present in your breath as the

>blood travels through your lungs, a lesser amount will probably find it's

>way into perspiration.

>

>I have never been able to smell it upon myself, but recall visiting a

>friend

>who had eaten some... his whole house reeked of the smell... the best

>defense is to eat some yourself.

>

>I typically dose 2-3 (raw) cloves cut into smaller pieces to make it easier

>to swallow and consumed with a little juice. While it varies with how much

>and how strong the garlic is, I do believe I perceive a sensation in my

>stomach immediately after consumption... not painful but not exactly

>pleasant.

>

>I have no idea if cooking reduces it's affectivity, but my " gut feeling "

>(is

>that were that saying comes from?), is that raw real garlic is stronger

>than

>no-smell capsules, or cooked....

>

>YMMV

>

>JR

> -----Original Message-----

> From: apricot85 [mailto:apricot85@...]

> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 11:28 PM

>

> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Garlic?

>

>

> Rodney, I have read similar information about need to eat garlic raw &

>uncooked for the " true " benefit. Have read a number of " swear on a bible "

>testomonies from listmembers on another group. I like your way of eating

>it... sounds like something I could do. But I do worry about the smell!

>

> Questions for you if you wouldn't mind too much: 1. I thought part of

>garlic smell was from sweating the scent from skin ... not just from

>mouth/breath. Do you think that's true? 2. Could you smell it yourself

>if

>you did? 3. Do you feel any immediate effect from eating the garlic? (ie.

>burning in stomach, surge of energy... I've read of both effects from

>others). 4. You prefer not to eat it with food?

>

>

>

> Rodney wrote:

>

>Hi Bernadette:

>

>Yes. Approximately weekly (along with my mostly-weekly supplements)

>I cut up one large garlic clove into pill-size pieces and swallow them as

>if

>they are pills - without chewing.

>

>This way I get raw garlic into my intestine in such a way that people don't

>cross to the other side of the street as I approach.

>

>I believe the Iowa Women's Health Study found that the food product

>most protective against colon cancer was raw garlic.

>

>Also, my lady friend had a tiny red pimple on her eye lid. Her

>opthalmologist, seeing it, suggested eating garlic. She did. It

>disappeared.

>

>About a year later I had a similar pimple on my eye lid. Same

>treatment. Same result.

>

>There does seem to be quite a lot of evidence of the benefits of

>garlic. One study I read found that powdered garlic (presumably

>includes tablet form) had none of the benefits. It is, of course, a

>member of the onion family with all the benefits of sulforaphane that

>the family confers.

>

>Rodney.

>

>

> I've read that garlic is great for immunity, so in addition to green

>tea extracts I've been taking garlic (in a nonstinking form...an

>indelicate way of putting it.)

>

>Anyone else taking garlic?

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Thanks Rodney: then why are you guys flagellating yourselves with raw

garlic?

on 3/16/2004 5:45 PM, Rodney at perspect1111@... wrote:

> Hi Francesca:

>

> I don't remember the source of my previous info on garlic. But a

> Google search did turn up a couple of sources that said cooked is as

> good as raw!

>

> Rodney.

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In light of your and Rodney's comments I searched on Google too. I must have

used a different search string " raw garlic " since the first several links,

the only ones I looked at, seem to favor fresh raw garlic.

Even if we dismiss your buddy Mercola, who suggests that not only should it

be raw but that it needs to be crushed :-), the only link of the few I read

that compared raw vs. cooked suggested a potency difference of 4 1/2 cloves

cooked to equal 1/2 clove raw (in the context of a component they suggest

might prevent/reduce cancer).

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/353507.stm

Since basic garlic can't be patented I don't expect to see very rigorous

research into, what and how..... If you prefer to cook it and that works for

you fine, I hope you won't mind me continuing to eat it raw for my

occasional medicinal snacks.

JR

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From: Francesca Skelton [mailto:fskelton@...]

Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 6:15 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Garlic?

Thanks Rodney: then why are you guys flagellating yourselves with raw

garlic?

on 3/16/2004 5:45 PM, Rodney at perspect1111@... wrote:

> Hi Francesca:

>

> I don't remember the source of my previous info on garlic. But a

> Google search did turn up a couple of sources that said cooked is as

> good as raw!

>

> Rodney.

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