Guest guest Posted October 5, 2000 Report Share Posted October 5, 2000 In a message dated 10/4/00 9:47:14 PM Central Daylight Time, berniew1@... writes: << where >> I recieved info from State Of Louisiana Wildlife and Fisheries. There is a long post on the GFCF message board that is the exact excerpt of what I read. The state of Louisiana is conducting testing and treatment studies on school age children thru adults on mercury contamination. This area may have a higher concentration of mercury. However, this is the government talking, and I dont hold much stock there. Just passing it on. And the person on the message board got the same answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2000 Report Share Posted October 5, 2000 No seafood is considered safe if it is salt water seafood. Even if it is farm raised that is not okay because the farm area is simply a netted off area of the ocean and still contains mercury which the fish soak up and absorb. Fresh water farm raised is the only acceptable seafood. But no salt water-farm raised or not. I know there was discussion on this earlier. Hope this helps WendiD Afraid this is not accurate. Don't know where you got this. IMO It is not true that salt water fish in general have more mercury than fresh water fish, or farm raised freshwater fish less mercury than farm raised saltwater fish. Over 2/3 of rivers and lakes in Florida have warnings not to eat the big predetor fish. There are compilations of average mercury levels in fresh water fish and salt water fish on the web, at EPA, at my office; In general fresh water fish have as much mercury as saltwater. And big fish more than small fish. Eat low on the food chain. The food chain is becomng very contaminated at the upper levels. Bernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2000 Report Share Posted October 5, 2000 > >I live in Louisiana. About 6 weeks back I posted an arcticle that appeared > >on the front page of our local newspaper in New Orleans. It showed that > high > >levels of mercury were being detected in fish caught in local waters and had >made the connection between that and the fact that 1/3 of N.O. publlic school kids are developmentally disabled..... There is mercury in fish but that doesn't mean it is the cause of the problem, but they may be treating the vaccine problems there without knowing it. Mercury exposure is cumulative, but the vaccine exposures appears by far the most significant source in most young kids. Bernie ps I'm interested in a copy of the article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2000 Report Share Posted October 5, 2000 I hope they are taking the mercury fillings out of these children and not just making them sicker. Sorry I hit reply Bernard Windham wrote: > > >I live in Louisiana. About 6 weeks back I posted an arcticle that > appeared > > >on the front page of our local newspaper in New Orleans. It > showed > that > > high > > >levels of mercury were being detected in fish caught in local > waters and had >made the connection between that and the fact that 1/3 > of N.O. > publlic school kids are developmentally disabled..... > > There is mercury in fish but that doesn't mean > it is the cause of the problem, but they may be treating the vaccine > problems there without knowing it. Mercury exposure is cumulative, but > the vaccine exposures appears by far the most significant source in most > young kids. > Bernie > ps I'm interested in a copy of the article > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2000 Report Share Posted October 5, 2000 Bernie, Sorry to tag this on here, but I'm in a hurry. Could you please send me the copy of the mercury causing MS article you said you had at work? My mom is waiting to read it! Thanks, Barb [ ] re: mercury in fish > >> >I live in Louisiana. About 6 weeks back I posted an arcticle that >appeared >> >on the front page of our local newspaper in New Orleans. It >showed >that >> high >> >levels of mercury were being detected in fish caught in local >waters and had >made the connection between that and the fact that 1/3 >of N.O. >publlic school kids are developmentally disabled..... > > There is mercury in fish but that doesn't mean >it is the cause of the problem, but they may be treating the vaccine >problems there without knowing it. Mercury exposure is cumulative, but >the vaccine exposures appears by far the most significant source in most >young kids. >Bernie > ps I'm interested in a copy of the article > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2000 Report Share Posted October 15, 2000 What about buying farm raised salmon? My hfs has it. Terri At 07:14 PM 10/15/00 -0400, you wrote: Bernie or anyone who knows about this, Is it true that broiling salmon helps reduce the level of possible mercury and arsenic since the metals are usually stored in the fat and most of the fat drops into the bottom of the pan? I've gone through periods of eliminating fish and severely limiting it and my son always does better when he eats three or more helpings of salmon a week. This may change since we started the CLO but I wonder if there is somehow a safer way to still allow him to eat some fish. Gaylen -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor -------------------------~-~> Restaurants, Movies, Weather, Traffic & More! Call 1-800-555-TELL. For more info visit: 1/9533/9/_/705339/_/971651704/ --------------------------------------------------------------------> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2002 Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 I know I'm going to start something here but my homeopath feels that we should give my son fish including tuna. He says that fish naturally produce something (I'm not sure what) that deactivates the mercury and encouraged us to give him fish for the EFA's. I'll get more information from him and post it. Jo Representative for Unlocking Autism in South Carolina www.unlockingautism.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2002 Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 > Hi there - > I hope you can help me with this question. I know that Tuna tends to > be high in mercury and therefore should be avoided, but do you know > what other fish are high in mercury? Swordfish, shark, marlin, shellfish. >Also, do you know if sardines > are a problem? I don't KNOW but I don't believe they are. >Would there be any way to get " mercury free " tuna? No. > > Just wondering since fish is such a wonderful source of EFAs - and my > daughter tried sardines (an excellent source of calcium too) and > loved them. I wanted to make sure she could eat these without also > consuming mercury. > > Thanks > Moir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2002 Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 Apologies if this question has been asked before, but what about the fish oil supplements? Could they contain mercury? Kind regards . [ ] Re: Mercury in Fish > > > Hi there - > > I hope you can help me with this question. I know that Tuna tends to > > be high in mercury and therefore should be avoided, but do you know > > what other fish are high in mercury? > > Swordfish, shark, marlin, shellfish. > > >Also, do you know if sardines > > are a problem? > > I don't KNOW but I don't believe they are. > > >Would there be any way to get " mercury free " tuna? > > No. > > > > Just wondering since fish is such a wonderful source of EFAs - and > my > > daughter tried sardines (an excellent source of calcium too) and > > loved them. I wanted to make sure she could eat these without also > > consuming mercury. > > > > Thanks > > Moir > > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2002 Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 Actually, I think that the inclusion of shellfish on this list is incorrect. I recently did some research, and found the raw data that EPA collected when they tested all kinds of fish, and no mercury was detected in any of the shellfish they tested. The reason I was particularly concerned about this was that I craved shrimp when I was pregnant with my daughter and ate it quite a bit. So, I was specifically looking for this information when I did my research. [ ] Re: Mercury in Fish > Hi there - > I hope you can help me with this question. I know that Tuna tends to > be high in mercury and therefore should be avoided, but do you know > what other fish are high in mercury? Swordfish, shark, marlin, shellfish. >Also, do you know if sardines > are a problem? I don't KNOW but I don't believe they are. >Would there be any way to get " mercury free " tuna? No. > > Just wondering since fish is such a wonderful source of EFAs - and my > daughter tried sardines (an excellent source of calcium too) and > loved them. I wanted to make sure she could eat these without also > consuming mercury. > > Thanks > Moir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2002 Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 Jo, I believe Andy has covered this here and the deactivation of mercury only applies to the fish and not for the mammals that eat the fish. TK > I know I'm going to start something here but my homeopath feels that we > should give my son fish including tuna. He says that fish naturally produce > something (I'm not sure what) that deactivates the mercury and encouraged us > to give him fish for the EFA's. I'll get more information from him and post > it. > > Jo > Representative for Unlocking Autism in South Carolina > www.unlockingautism.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2002 Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 He's probably talking about the selenium which protects the fish themselves from mercury. Why not flaxseed oil for the EFAs? S (vegan, so naturally prejudiced) On Thu, 07 March 2002, JPiker@... wrote: > > <html><body> > > > <tt> > I know I'm going to start something here but my homeopath feels that we <BR> > should give my son fish including tuna. He says that fish naturally produce <BR> > something (I'm not sure what) that deactivates the mercury and encouraged us <BR> > to give him fish for the EFA's. I'll get more information from him and post <BR> > it.<BR> > <BR> > Jo<BR> > Representative for Unlocking Autism in South Carolina<BR> > www.unlockingautism.org<BR> > </tt> > > <br> > > <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> > > <table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2> > <tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC> > <td align=center><font size= " -1 " color=#003399><b> Sponsor</b></font></td> > </tr> > <tr bgcolor=#FFFFFF> > <td align=center width=470><table border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0><tr><td align=center><font face=arial size=-2>ADVERTISEMENT</font><br><a href= " http://rd./M=215002.1818248.3328688.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=1705061\ 616:HM/A=847665/R=0/*http://ads.x10.com/?bHlhaG9vbW9uc3RlcjcuZGF0=1015542319%3eM\ =215002.1818248.3328688.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=1705061616:HM/A=847665/R=1 " target=_top><img src= " http://ads.x10.com/?Z3lhaG9vbW9uc3RlcjcuZGF0=1015542319%3eM=215002.1818248.\ 3328688.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=1705061616:HM/A=847665/R=2 " alt= " " width= " 300 " height= " 250 " border= " 0 " ></a></td></tr></table></td> > </tr> > <tr><td><img alt= " " width=1 height=1 src= " http://us.adserver./l?M=215002.1818248.3328688.1261774/D=egroupmai\ l/S=1705061616:HM/A=847665/rand=676046468 " ></td></tr> > </table> > > <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> > > > <br> > <tt> > =======================================================<BR> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2002 Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 In a message dated 3/8/02 12:43:33 AM US Eastern Standard Time, l_shepard@... writes: > He's probably talking about the selenium which protects the fish themselves > from mercury. Why not flaxseed oil for the EFAs? So far my son hasn't been able to handle any EFAs or any oils including CLO. His dr. is going to start him on 1 drop of sesame oil and we'll slowly work up until he can tolerate this and then hopefully keep moving up to Flax and then fish oil. Jo Representative for Unlocking Autism in South Carolina www.unlockingautism.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2002 Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 Hi Jo, I would like to hear more from your homeopath about how fish " can de-activate the mercury " . Best regards, Griffiths Re: [ ] Re: Mercury in Fish > I know I'm going to start something here but my homeopath feels that we > should give my son fish including tuna. He says that fish naturally produce > something (I'm not sure what) that deactivates the mercury and encouraged us > to give him fish for the EFA's. I'll get more information from him and post > it. > > Jo > Representative for Unlocking Autism in South Carolina > www.unlockingautism.org > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2002 Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 <I would like to hear more from your homeopath about how fish " can de-activate the mercury " .> I'll be talking to him today and will ask him to fax me more info. I'm interested too. Jo Representative for Unlocking Autism in South Carolina www.unlockingautism.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2002 Report Share Posted March 8, 2002 Hi I weight lifted seriously for 8 years - I ate Tuna on average 1 to 2 times a day as a protien source with no fat I cannot say for sure if Tuna or amalgams caused my sickenss but I had all the amalgams that I ever had before weightlifting started at the age of around 22 Eventually I got mercury poisoning and kept eating Tuna since I did not know it was mercury until recently I would not eat Tuna again under any circumstances Besides, when ever Tuna has in it that handles the mercury may be an active compounds when the fish is alive - what are the chances of that working in humans in the same way When you can get the EFA's - Borage and Flax from other sources, why would you risk your kid? Hope I do not offend you. At the end of the day, each to their own..... Kind regards Re: [ ] Re: Mercury in Fish Hi Jo, I would like to hear more from your homeopath about how fish " can de-activate the mercury " . Best regards, Griffiths Re: [ ] Re: Mercury in Fish > I know I'm going to start something here but my homeopath feels that we > should give my son fish including tuna. He says that fish naturally produce > something (I'm not sure what) that deactivates the mercury and encouraged us > to give him fish for the EFA's. I'll get more information from him and post > it. > > Jo > Representative for Unlocking Autism in South Carolina > www.unlockingautism.org > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2002 Report Share Posted March 8, 2002 Hi, I don't know much about this... only what I read in the ANDY_INDEX file. It's something like this: We, humans, turn organic mercury (this is what we get in vaccines and amalgams) into inorganic mercury. Mercury is not very dangerous as long as it stays in the organic form, but once it gets into our body it is transformed into inorganic mercury (so it becomes toxic). Organic mercury passes the BBB easily and it is transformed there into the inorganic form. Inorganic mercury will not come out of there anymore by itself. Fishes can methylate mercury. For them, the process is reversed. Methylmercury (organic) - the form of mercury that is found in fishes, is much less toxic than inorganic mercury. That's why fish can be healthy even if they have high levels of mercury, and they can be very dangerous for people to eat (since we transform methylmercury into mercuric mercury, which is the form of mercury that causes problems, because it is an oxidation catalyst as we know already). Chelation won't help with the excretion of the organic mercury - the methylated form. Actually I think the excretion is inhibited by ALA. But the chelation will help with the excretion of the inorganic mercury. Hope this helps. Valentina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2002 Report Share Posted March 8, 2002 If your child can't handle CLO or fish oil I would guess he'd have prolems with the oil in tuna. S On Thu, 07 March 2002, " Griffiths " wrote: > > <html><body> > > > <tt> > Hi Jo,<BR> > <BR> > I would like to hear more from your homeopath about how fish & quot; can<BR> > de-activate the mercury & quot;.<BR> > <BR> > Best regards,<BR> > <BR> > Griffiths<BR> > Re: [ ] Re: Mercury in Fish<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > & gt; I know I'm going to start something here but my homeopath feels that we<BR> > & gt; should give my son fish including tuna. He says that fish naturally<BR> > produce<BR> > & gt; something (I'm not sure what) that deactivates the mercury and encouraged<BR> > us<BR> > & gt; to give him fish for the EFA's. I'll get more information from him and<BR> > post<BR> > & gt; it.<BR> > & gt;<BR> > & gt; Jo<BR> > & gt; Representative for Unlocking Autism in South Carolina<BR> > & gt; www.unlockingautism.org<BR> > & gt;<BR> > & gt;<BR> > & gt; =======================================================<BR> > & gt; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2002 Report Share Posted March 8, 2002 In a message dated 3/9/02 12:32:19 AM US Eastern Standard Time, l_shepard@... writes: > If your child can't handle CLO or fish oil I would guess he'd have prolems > with the oil in tuna. Just for the record, although I said my Homeopath thinks my son should eat fish, I don't agree with this. We're going to try to slowly work up to EFA's by starting with just a drop of sesame oil and working our way up to the fish oils. Jo Representative for Unlocking Autism in South Carolina www.unlockingautism.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2002 Report Share Posted November 5, 2002 -Hi , I personally would be afraid to eat salmon every day. I read so many differing opinions as to the safety of different kinds of fish in different kinds of water, I don't know who to believe. I basically stopped eating seafood of any kind, take flax and borage oil, eat organic and/or hormone/anti-biotic free chicken, beef, sometimes pork, cottage cheese and yogart from the health food store for protein, and pumpkin seeds and vegetables. Occasionally, I have eaten a piece of salmon or halibut. I think eating fish of any kind every day would be unwise for a mercury-toxic person. Kim -- In @y..., " julie genser " <j_genser@h...> wrote: > i've been eating about 1/2lb of wild salmon pretty much every day. sometimes > i have two fish meals in a day. the salmon is always wild, sometimes from > Alaska, other times from the West Coast. I am on a very restricted diet and > need animal protein with each meal in order to have energy throughout the > day. I don't want to eat too much meat, either. I usually have free- range > chicken soup for breakfast, wild salmon for lunch and grass-fed beef for > dinner. Am I making a big mistake eating so much salmon? I figure it's the > safest, and healthiest fish to eat. Sometimes I also have sea bass. From > what I've read, the mercury shouldn't be high in wild salmon. I would > appreciate any comments on this...thanks, > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get a speedy connection with MSN Broadband. Join now! > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2002 Report Share Posted November 6, 2002 Kim I'd be more concerned about eating Chicken, Beef, Pork than Alaskan Salmon. Human's aren't Carnivores and really don't have the digestive system to process flesh from animals with four legs, fur and hooves..... and the transit time for Beef is 2.5 times longer than normal, Pork transit is 4.5 time longer. Both provide for rotting and putrification of meat, dysbiosis, and increased incidence of Cancer--rectal, prostate, uterine, colon and breast. The fish I'd be concerned about are the " farmed Salmon " , bottom feeders that feed off the debris dumped into the waterways like sole, flounder, etc. Dolphi >I personally would be afraid to eat salmon every day. I read so many differing opinions as to the safety of different kinds of fish in different kinds of water, I don't know who to believe. I basically stopped eating seafood of any kind, take flax and borage oil, eat organic and/or hormone/anti-biotic free chicken, beef, sometimes pork, -- In @y..., " julie genser " <j_genser@h...> wrote: > i've been eating about 1/2lb of wild salmon pretty much every day. sometimes > i have two fish meals in a day. the salmon is always wild, sometimes from > Alaska, other times from the West Coast. I am on a very restricted diet and > need animal protein with each meal in order to have energy throughout the > day. I don't want to eat too much meat, either. I usually have free- range > chicken soup for breakfast, wild salmon for lunch and grass-fed beef for > dinner. Am I making a big mistake eating so much salmon? I figure it's the > safest, and healthiest fish to eat. Sometimes I also have sea bass. >From > what I've read, the mercury shouldn't be high in wild salmon. I would > appreciate any comments on this...thanks, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2002 Report Share Posted November 7, 2002 Kim and , I agree with Dolphi on this. While I have been told it is the farm raised salmon that you have to be concerned about, usually marketed as “Atlantic” and the wild “Alaskan” salmon is OK. I feel there are other ways to get your protein such as whey protein powder in your oatmeal or smoothy, egg whites, etc… Ron RE: [ ] Re: mercury in fish Kim I'd be more concerned about eating Chicken, Beef, Pork than Alaskan Salmon. Human's aren't Carnivores and really don't have the digestive system to process flesh from animals with four legs, fur and hooves..... and the transit time for Beef is 2.5 times longer than normal, Pork transit is 4.5 time longer. Both provide for rotting and putrification of meat, dysbiosis, and increased incidence of Cancer--rectal, prostate, uterine, colon and breast. The fish I'd be concerned about are the " farmed Salmon " , bottom feeders that feed off the debris dumped into the waterways like sole, flounder, etc. Dolphi >I personally would be afraid to eat salmon every day. I read so many differing opinions as to the safety of different kinds of fish in different kinds of water, I don't know who to believe. I basically stopped eating seafood of any kind, take flax and borage oil, eat organic and/or hormone/anti-biotic free chicken, beef, sometimes pork, -- In @y..., " julie genser " <j_genser@h...> wrote: > i've been eating about 1/2lb of wild salmon pretty much every day. sometimes > i have two fish meals in a day. the salmon is always wild, sometimes from > Alaska, other times from the West Coast. I am on a very restricted diet and > need animal protein with each meal in order to have energy throughout the > day. I don't want to eat too much meat, either. I usually have free- range > chicken soup for breakfast, wild salmon for lunch and grass-fed beef for > dinner. Am I making a big mistake eating so much salmon? I figure it's the > safest, and healthiest fish to eat. Sometimes I also have sea bass. >From > what I've read, the mercury shouldn't be high in wild salmon. I would > appreciate any comments on this...thanks, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2004 Report Share Posted March 20, 2004 speak of the devil: Limits urged on eating tuna: U.S. Agencies Cite levels of Mercury http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A9156-2004Mar19.html on 3/19/2004 10:15 PM, jwwright at jwwright@... wrote: > Thanks, Alan, The things I have against fish is the mercury of course, but > also tyramines. I heard there was a thing they would require producers to > label can content, but not yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2004 Report Share Posted March 20, 2004 Perhaps, but tuna are hardly the only fish. I rarely eat tuna these days, due to concerns regarding possible mercury content, although, most studies have found light canned tuna to contain relatively low mercury levels. Unfortunately, canned tuna also contains relatively little omega-3 oil, and I prefer Albacore tuna, which may have higher mercury levels. Better choices for low mercury and high omega 3 oils include herring/sardines and Alaskan salmon (Atlantic is most often farmed and may be high in PCBs). >From: Francesca Skelton <fskelton@...> >Reply- >< > >Subject: [ ] mercury in fish >Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 09:07:08 -0500 > >speak of the devil: > >Limits urged on eating tuna: U.S. Agencies Cite levels of Mercury > >http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A9156-2004Mar19.html > > > >on 3/19/2004 10:15 PM, jwwright at jwwright@... wrote: > > > Thanks, Alan, The things I have against fish is the mercury of course, >but > > also tyramines. I heard there was a thing they would require producers >to > > label can content, but not yet. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.