The Warrior Diet

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On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 10:22:07 -0700

Heidi Schuppenhauer <heidis@...> wrote:

> And ... Ori was obviously being purposefully " out there " and challenging (and,

it was a Penthouse article? hence the gratuitious F***'s?). Being controversial

is a good way to sell books, and with a name like " Warrior Diet " you need a nice

rocky persona. Now someone selling the French Riviera Diet could stress the

genteel aspects!

>

> -- Heidi

>

Actually it appeared here, http://www.t-mag.com/html/64war.html. on a

bodybuilding website called Testosterone.

I think the French Riveria Diet could be a bestseller. If we are still at this

say six months to a year from now perhaps we could collaborate on a more elegant

repackaging of the Warrior Diet :-)

" Humans live on one-quarter of what they eat; on the other three-quarters lives

their doctor. "

--Egyptian pyramid inscription, 3800 B.C.

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>Actually, he is not talking about the Atkin's diet, and its very temporary

>ketosis stage which Atkins labels " induction. "

Actually, Atkins is ketogenic almost all the way through weight loss, just

less dramatically so than during induction.

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On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 02:00:06 -0400

Idol <Idol@...> wrote:

> -

>

> >Actually, he is not talking about the Atkin's diet, and its very temporary

> >ketosis stage which Atkins labels " induction. "

>

> Actually, Atkins is ketogenic almost all the way through weight loss, just

> less dramatically so than during induction.

>

>

> -

>

Yup you are right. But Atkins isn't generally the low carb approach used

by bodybuilders. He is referring to something else entirely. And long

term ketogenic diets for competive bodybuilders seem to be a problem,

but not necessarily for us " lay " folks.

Heck, I tend to eat " ketogenically " all week. It is hard for me to get

over 100 grams of carbs a day, even including beer/wine, and following

the Warrior Diet, unless I'm eating grains. I tend to let lose on the

weekends however.

But it amazes me when I read things like the average person eating 300

grams of carbs or more per day. Yikes!!

" Humans live on one-quarter of what they eat; on the other three-quarters lives

their doctor. "

--Egyptian pyramid inscription, 3800 B.C.

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I've been eating moderately ketogenically for over a year (with a few brief

exceptions) and if anything, my muscle bulk seems to have increased

slightly. Nothing dramatic, but I certainly haven't experienced any

catastrophic side effects -- the only thing that's happened is that I feel

better and I've lost a pile of weight. The only drawback is that I still

have more weight to lose. <g>

>Yup you are right. But Atkins isn't generally the low carb approach used

>by bodybuilders. He is referring to something else entirely. And long

>term ketogenic diets for competive bodybuilders seem to be a problem,

>but not necessarily for us " lay " folks.

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>Long term ketogenic dieting (and by the way, technically speaking, a ketogenic

diet is any diet which has 100 grams of carbs or less per day - one does not

have to be in ketosis to be eating ketogenically)

:

Could you explain that? A lot of us probably eat less than 100 grams of carbs a

day, but how is that ketogenic? My understanding is that the body really fights

ketosis -- the kids on diets to fight seizures really have to work to stay " in

ketosis " .

-- Heidi

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>Actually it appeared here,

<http://www.t-mag.com/html/64war.html.>http://www.t-mag.com/html/64war.html. on

a bodybuilding website called Testosterone.

Ah. Ok, not Penthouse. Same thing though ... male hormones surging!

>I think the French Riveria Diet could be a bestseller. If we are still at this

say six months to a year from now perhaps we could collaborate on a more elegant

repackaging of the Warrior Diet :-)

Well, if it WORKS then 6 months from now I might be able to fit into a brass

bikini (ROFL).

-- Heidi

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I suspect that I eat at least 2 pounds of fruits/vegetables a day.

Would that put me over 100grams? I usually consume, on average about 1

serving of grains a day (usually pumpernickel, corn or sweet potato)

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> Could you explain that? A lot of us probably eat less than 100 grams

of carbs a day

>

> -- Heidi

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In a message dated 8/16/03 9:21:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

heidis@... writes:

> LOL! I liked the Zone menus (not much different from good NT

> meals or the way my Mom cooked) -- but I just am not that good

> at arithmetic.

Heidi, afaik, NT doesn't have an egg white ommelette recipe, and mom never

cooked me one neither!

Sears is an even more avid opponent of arachidonic acid than ketosis...

Chris

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I used to have major blood sugar issues (or some hormonal problem, now that

Heidi's made me insecure about juding my blood sugar levels ;-) ) going to

church without eating breakfast and eventually picked up a compromise solution

of

eating a small snack before I left, and I experimented for a long time trying

to find what the smallest amount I could eat that would keep my blood sugar

stable was, but with no real success.

I in fact have passed out standing up for a split second before, even.

Inspired by the WD thread I decided for the first time in a long time today

to go without eating anything at all. For some protection, I took a large dose

of magnesium, which seems to help my blood sugar, though I'm not positive,

and 1 gram of L-glutamine on an empty stomach, hoping it would stimulate my HGH

production and thereby have some positive effect on hormonal balance.

I in fact felt great all day today. I woke up at 7, left at 8, got there at

nine, got out at 11:30, and I'm just eating now at 2:00 (aside from a tiny

piece of bread (maybe a quarter " slice " at most) around 11:15). My singing,

which usually suffers, and sometimes badly, from low blood sugar, or high

cortisol, or some such problem, was far better than usual, and it all went by

about 5

times faster than it usually does.

So, for folks who are trying or plan to try the WD or some similar regimen I

reccomend that if you expect or find the first few days to give you problems

fasting, try using moderately large doses of magnesium and L-glutamine, one of

them or the combination helped me enormously.

Chris

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In a message dated 8/17/03 1:36:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

slethnobotanist@... writes:

> Long term ketogenic dieting (and by the way, technically speaking, a

> ketogenic diet is any diet which has 100 grams of carbs or less per day - one

does

> not have to be in ketosis to be eating ketogenically) does screw up a bunch

> of folks, particularly when it lacks adequate fat. I have a read a number of

> articles that recommended low carb and low fat for bodybuilders. That is a

> recipe for disaster.

How can a ketogenic diet be low-fat??? lol! Wouldn't that be a

nothing-o-genic diet? Actually, it seems it would probably be the exact

opposite of

ketogenic-- glucogenic, if it were mostly protein, or if it were low-fat with

100 g

carbs, but really sounds more like a starvation diet that doesn't supply

adequate energy at all.

I guess *I* eat a ketogenic diet, if it means less than 100g carbs. I hope I

don't get f___ed up in the head! 100g is a LOT of carbs, for someone who

doesn't eat potatoes or grains. Most veggies with few exceptions you'd have to

eat 10-30 cups of them to get that much carbs.

I typically eat berries for carbs in the morning, 1/3-1/2 cup, and eat

stiry-frys for carbs with lunch and dinner, which typically are a couple cloves

of

garlic, an onion or two, 8 cherry tomatoes or so, and a zuchinni, or a bell

pepper or two, etc.

I don't know if lactic acid should count as a carb, but if so, that'd be my

main carb, as I drink lots and lots of kefir.

Chris

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In a message dated 8/17/03 1:44:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

slethnobotanist@... writes:

> >And ... Ori was obviously being purposefully " out there " and challenging

> (and, it was a Penthouse article? hence the gratuitious F***'s?). Being

> controversial is a good way to sell books, and with a name like " Warrior Diet "

you

> need a nice rocky persona. Now someone selling the French Riviera Diet could

> stress the genteel aspects!

> >

> >-- Heidi

> >

>

> Actually it appeared here, http://www.t-mag.com/html/64war.html. on a

> bodybuilding website called Testosterone.

Maybe it's a generational thing, but I didn't get the sense that he was being

controversial or provocative, I got the sense like he was just talking

normally. He used f___ with typical frequency and in typical context of average

people in normal conversation, from what I'm accustomed to. Usually people

don't

use it in formal speech/writing-- which is why it gave me the sense it was

casual.

> I think the French Riveria Diet could be a bestseller. If we are still at

> this say six months to a year from now perhaps we could collaborate on a more

> elegant repackaging of the Warrior Diet :-)

I like " Warrior Diet " personally. I guess I have less right to comment,

since I'm not practicing it, but... I don't think " Warrior " is meant to allude

to

violence or even masculinity but, like he said in the interview, romanticism.

The concept of the warrior has all sorts of positive connotations, and

non-violent ones. Anyone read Castaneda's books? Don frequently

referred to himself and his ilk as " warriors. " But they weren't fighting anyone

or

killing anyone-- the war was purely a battle for *perception*. Or think of

Christian spiritual warfare. Or think of all the people today who engage in

martial arts with no intentions of actually ever using them for fighting. I'm

as non-violent as the next guy, or girl, but I think " warrior " actually has

positive connotations, and the (perhaps justified) romanticism of the

hunter-gatherer with not only the perfect physique, but the keen *instinct* and

*awareness* (like the aborigine who sees movement in the woods a mile away)

appeals to

me.

Chris

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In a message dated 8/17/03 2:58:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

heidis@... writes:

> Ah. Ok, not Penthouse. Same thing though ... male hormones surging!

Ahem, while not a bodybuilder per se, I do heavy workouts and concentrate on

supposedly " testosterone " exercises, and I do *not* read pornos!

Chris

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In a message dated 8/17/03 2:03:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

Idol@... writes:

> In my experience, for whatever it's worth, the degree to which I can delay

> or skip breakfast without consequences is the degree to which (a) I'm not

> eating much in the way of carbs at all, and ( I eat a lot of fat before

> bed. The less carbs overall and the more fat at night, the longer I go the

> next day without getting hungry. But never to the point that I could skip

> lunch too -- I get in a ton of trouble if I try.

, what do you consider a lot and a little fat? 60% of calories is pretty

much my minimum for *any* meal, which seems like it should be enough. I know

you eat as much fat as I do, so I'm wondering whether not enough fat for you

is an actual low amount of fat, or is, like for me, still twice as much fat as

everyone else eats. lol.

Sometimes if I dont' eat anything and I go for a walk or something I get this

funny feeling in my muscles that I can't really describe and I start

breathing heavy from very moderate walking, and I feel slightly fuzzy in the

head. I

don't have to eat breakfast for it to go away, I just need to eat anything.

I've noticed that the main determinant in how long I feel fine from eating

something small is how much sleep I've gotten.

But the magnesium/glutamine thing seemed to make an enormous difference, in

that I felt *better* than I usually do if I eat something small, during the

period before I get what feels to me like a blood sugar crash, and in addition,

my blood sugar never seemed to crash at all (whereas if I eat *nothing* I

usually feel like my blood sugar already crashed while I was sleeping, to some

degree).

Chris

[Guest guest]

>> Long term ketogenic dieting (and by the way, technically speaking, a

ketogenic diet is any diet which has 100 grams of carbs or less per day - one

does not have to be in ketosis to be eating ketogenically) does screw up a bunch

of folks, particularly when it lacks adequate fat. I have a read a number of

articles that recommended low carb and low fat for bodybuilders. That is a

recipe for disaster. <<

Oh, I agree... I did respond in a later post that I was talking about two

different things there, I realized I was a bit confusing in my comments. BUT....

I eat 20-25 grams of carbs a day and am definitely on a ketogenic diet, even if

I am not on the ketongenic diet that he was referring to. Of course I eat 75

percent of my calories from fat, and feel terrific. <G>

Christie

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Chris-

>without eating breakfast

In my experience, for whatever it's worth, the degree to which I can delay

or skip breakfast without consequences is the degree to which (a) I'm not

eating much in the way of carbs at all, and ( I eat a lot of fat before

bed. The less carbs overall and the more fat at night, the longer I go the

next day without getting hungry. But never to the point that I could skip

lunch too -- I get in a ton of trouble if I try.

-

[Guest guest]

>Heidi, afaik, NT doesn't have an egg white ommelette recipe, and mom never

>cooked me one neither!

>

>Sears is an even more avid opponent of arachidonic acid than ketosis...

>

>Chris

Hmm ... well, my memory is probably going. I really didn't get into

the details of it much but it seemed like there was some good

stuff with vegies etc. I likely would have ignored the bit

about egg yolks ...

-- Heidi

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>So, for folks who are trying or plan to try the WD or some similar regimen I

>reccomend that if you expect or find the first few days to give you problems

>fasting, try using moderately large doses of magnesium and L-glutamine, one of

>them or the combination helped me enormously.

>

>Chris

Hm. Good idea. My first day was Heck and worse for those near me!

I DID find it helpful (I think) to eat a big meal the night before, esp.

since I was generally not eating much dinner before that.

-- Heidi

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>Maybe it's a generational thing, but I didn't get the sense that he was being

>controversial or provocative, I got the sense like he was just talking

>normally. He used f___ with typical frequency and in typical context of

average

>people in normal conversation, from what I'm accustomed to. Usually people

don't

>use it in formal speech/writing-- which is why it gave me the sense it was

>casual.

It might be casual for him, but most editors don't leave it in the text!

I'd bet anything that the article in Women's Day does NOT have the f's.

My general impression is that guys use a lot more " prohibited words "

when in male company -- and in fact catch themselves sometimes,

glancing at me -- " oh, sorry, there's a woman present ... " .

Personally I don't CARE but it is an interesting phenomenon. In Korea

I'm told there is a whole different syntax for " males talking to males "

and " females talking to females " .

>> I think the French Riveria Diet could be a bestseller. If we are still at

>> this say six months to a year from now perhaps we could collaborate on a more

>> elegant repackaging of the Warrior Diet :-)

>

>I like " Warrior Diet " personally. I guess I have less right to comment,

>since I'm not practicing it, but... I don't think " Warrior " is meant to allude

to

>violence or even masculinity but, like he said in the interview, romanticism.

>The concept of the warrior has all sorts of positive connotations, and

>non-violent ones. Anyone read Castaneda's books? Don frequently

>referred to himself and his ilk as " warriors. "

I liked the romanticism part. THAT I can get into -- like Xena. Actually my idea

of the French Riviera is the same thing ... romance! But the " hard body " part

is just not motivating -- I DO like to work out, and I even like martial arts,

but my take on martial arts is more " Crouching Tiger " than Bruce Lee.

And really, once you get into the idea of " romance " you have to face the

idea that " romance " means really different things in the male and female

contexts!

-- Heidi

[Guest guest]

Nope,

that was a mistake on my part

On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 17:44:55 EDT

ChrisMasterjohn@... wrote:

> In a message dated 8/15/03 5:08:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> slethnobotanist@... writes:

> >

> > And here is part 3 of the interview with Ori Hofmekler, author of the

> > Warrior Diet

> >

>

> Mmm... nope, both parts 2 and 3 were included in part 1! Is there actually a

> part two and 3? Hoping...

>

> Chris

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 12:10:18 -0000

" paultheo2000 " <paultheo2000@...> wrote:

> Hey , that sounds very interesting: what exactly did your

> fasting consist of? My limited personal experience agrees with you.

> When I slow down during a one day fast I don't feel well at all but

> when I act normally I feel fine (I guess it also has to do with

> staying distracted).

>

> -

>

Hi ,

I was drinking at least a gallon of liquids a day. I was drinking lots

of water, veggie juices, fruit juices, (all made and drunk immediately),

and potassium broth. When I was younger I used to concentrate on

specific juice recipes for different things but I didn't do that this

time around. Many days I drank mostly water and little juice. Other days

it was just the reverse. It usually depended on my schedule and if I was

close to my juicer or not.

I know this sounds crazy to a lot of folks but after the first few days

it is not as much of a discipline as one might think. Folks mileage may

vary as to when this point arrives but it does arrive. And it is very

liberating. You really don't get hungry and if you do a few sips on some

liquid and it goes away.

On my very first fast I had all kinds of detox issues going on, the

worst being some medicine that I could taste as my body was eliminating

it. Ugh! I could remember the smell. And what came out in my stools was

disgusting. But such events got better over time.

In my spiritual tradition one is advised to " wash your face and anoint

yourself with all " when fasting. The point being to go about your

regular business when fasting, and not focus on it and advertise the

fact to everyone else. It does make a difference. Exercise helps as well.

I remember toward the end of the fast walking into my favorite

restaurant for a business meeting. Everyone remarked how great I looked

and how I seemed to be glowing, etc. Then when of the guys I knew there

remarked that I was fasting and had been for several weeks. All of

sudden everyone grew VERY concerned and were worried about my well being

and that I needed to eat, etc. Go figure. Just moments before that I was

looking great.

[Guest guest]

On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 19:54:09 -0700

" Christie " <christiekeith@...> wrote:

> >> For clarity sake, " feast and fasting " and " feast and famine " are two very

different things. For starters, one is voluntary and the other is not, among

other things. <<

>

> True, but I promise, dogs only fast if they are sick. <G>

>

> Christie

>

LOL! Children do so instinctively as well when sick. Methinks there is a lesson

here.

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On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 02:24:09 -0400

Idol <Idol@...> wrote:

> -

>

> I've been eating moderately ketogenically for over a year (with a few brief

> exceptions) and if anything, my muscle bulk seems to have increased

> slightly. Nothing dramatic, but I certainly haven't experienced any

> catastrophic side effects -- the only thing that's happened is that I feel

> better and I've lost a pile of weight. The only drawback is that I still

> have more weight to lose. <g>

Well it seems that ketogenic diets cannot sustain a competitive

bodybuilder long term (at least that is what I keep reading), which is

one reason the CKD's (cyclical ketogenic diets) came into being, where

you have periods of low carbing cycled with a couple of days of high

carbing. But they were for competitive bodybuilders, who do all kinds of

crazy things, not folk like you and I.

Which is why I don't think it is good to extrapolate from a

bodybuilder's lifestyle to our own, which is 99.99% of us.

I'm sure a relatively low carb regimen is fine for the rest of us (at

least most of us).

And based on the broad ketogenic definition, many of us eat that way

anyway. .

[Guest guest]

On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 00:02:20 -0700

Heidi Schuppenhauer <heidis@...> wrote:

>

> >Long term ketogenic dieting (and by the way, technically speaking, a

ketogenic diet is any diet which has 100 grams of carbs or less per day - one

does not have to be in ketosis to be eating ketogenically)

>

> :

>

> Could you explain that? A lot of us probably eat less than 100 grams of carbs

a day, but how is that ketogenic? My understanding is that the body really

fights ketosis -- the kids on diets to fight seizures really have to work to

stay " in ketosis " .

>

> -- Heidi

Hi Heidi,

Below is an excerpt (under Introduction to the ketogenic diet) which mentions

ketogenic diets and the 100 gram level.

A Complete Guide for the Dieter and Practitioner

By Lyle Mc

Ketogenic diets and bodybuilders/athletes

Low carbohydrate diets were used quite often in the early years of bodybuilding

(the fish and water diet). As with general fat loss, the use of low

carbohydrate, ketogenic diets by athletes fell into disfavor as the emphasis

shifted to carbohydrate based diets.

As ketogenic diets have reentered the diet arena in the 1990’s, modified

ketogenic diets have been introduced for athletes, primarily bodybuilders. These

include so-called cyclical ketogenic diets (CKD’s) such as “The Anabolic Diet”

and “Bodyopus.”

During the 1980’s, Zumpano and Duchaine introduced two of the

earliest CKD’s: “The Rebound Diet” for muscle gain, and then a modified version

called “The Ultimate Diet” for fat loss. Neither gained much acceptance in the

bodybuilding subculture. This was most likely due to difficulty in implementing

the diets and the fact that a diet high in fat went against everything

nutritionists advocated.

In the early 1990’s, Dr. Mauro DiPasquale, a renowned expert on drug use in

sports, introduced " The Anabolic Diet.” This diet alternated periods of 5-6 days

of low carbohydrate, moderate protein, moderate/high fat eating with periods of

1-2 days of unlimited carbohydrate consumption. The major premise of the

Anabolic Diet was that the low carb week would cause a ‘metabolic shift’ to

occur, forcing the body to use fat for fuel. The high carb consumption on the

weekends would refill muscle carbohydrate stores and cause growth. The carb

loading phase was necessary as ketogenic diets can not sustain high intensity

exercise such as weight training.

DiPasquale argued that his diet was both anti-catabolic (preventing muscle

breakdown) as well as overtly anabolic (muscle building). His book suffered from

lack of appropriate references (using animal studies when human studies were

available) and drawing incorrect conclusions. As well, his book left

bodybuilders with more questions than it provided answers.

A few years later, bodybuilding expert Dan Duchaine released the book

“Underground Bodyopus: Militant Weight Loss and Recomposition.” Bodyopus

addressed numerous topics related to fat loss, presenting three different diets.

This included his approach to the CKD, which he called Bodyopus. Bodyopus was

far more detailed than the Anabolic Diet, giving specific recommendations and

went into more detail regarding the physiology of the diet.

However, “Bodyopus” left many questions unanswered as evidenced by the numerous

questions appearing in magazines and on the internet. While Duchaine’s ideas

were accepted to a limited degree by the bodybuilding subculture, the lack of

scientific references led health professionals, who still thought of ketogenic

diets as dangerous and unhealthy, to question the diet’s credibility.

Introduction to the ketogenic diet

Many readers may not be familiar with the ketogenic diet. This chapter discusses

some general ideas about ketogenic diets, as well as defining terms that may be

helpful.

In the most general terms, a ketogenic diet is any diet that causes ketone

bodies to be produced by the liver, shifting the body’s metabolism away from

glucose and towards fat utilization. More specifically, a ketogenic diet is one

that restricts carbohydrates below a certain level (generally 100 grams per

day), inducing a series of adaptations to take place. Protein and fat intake are

variable, depending on the goal of the dieter. However, the ultimate determinate

of whether a diet is ketogenic or not is the presence (or absence) of

carbohydrates.

Fuel metabolism and the ketogenic diet

Under ‘normal’ dietary conditions, the body runs on a mix of carbohydrates,

protein and fat. When carbohydrates are removed from the diet, the body’s small

stores are quickly depleted. Consequently, the body is forced to find an

alternative fuel to provide energy. One of these fuels is free fatty acids,

which can be used by most tissues in the body. However, not all organs can use

free fatty acids. For example, the brain and nervous system are unable to use

free fatty acids for fuel; however they can use ketone bodies.

Ketone bodies are a by-product of the incomplete breakdown of free fatty acids

in the liver. They serve as a non-carbohydrate, fat-derived fuel for tissues

such as the brain. When ketone bodies are produced at accelerated rates, they

accumulate in the bloodstream, causing a metabolic state called ketosis to

develop. Simultaneously, there is a decrease in glucose utilization and

production. Along with this, there is a decrease in the breakdown of protein to

be used for energy, referred to as ‘protein sparing.’

Many individuals are drawn to ketogenic diets in an attempt to lose bodyfat

while sparing the loss of lean body mass.

[Guest guest]

On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 10:12:39 -0700

" Christie " <christiekeith@...> wrote:

> >> Long term ketogenic dieting (and by the way, technically speaking, a

ketogenic diet is any diet which has 100 grams of carbs or less per day - one

does not have to be in ketosis to be eating ketogenically) does screw up a bunch

of folks, particularly when it lacks adequate fat. I have a read a number of

articles that recommended low carb and low fat for bodybuilders. That is a

recipe for disaster. <<

>

> Oh, I agree... I did respond in a later post that I was talking about two

different things there, I realized I was a bit confusing in my comments. BUT....

I eat 20-25 grams of carbs a day and am definitely on a ketogenic diet, even if

I am not on the ketongenic diet that he was referring to. Of course I eat 75

percent of my calories from fat, and feel terrific. <G>

I doubt you are a competitive bodybuilder as well. That is Hofmeklers context.

And was probably understood by those who found the interview on the Testosterone

sight, which is a bodybuilding site.

I love eating high fat! Such nutritional heretics we are <G>

[Guest guest]

see comments below

On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 14:00:16 EDT

ChrisMasterjohn@... wrote:

>

> Inspired by the WD thread I decided for the first time in a long time today

> to go without eating anything at all. For some protection, I took a large

dose

> of magnesium, which seems to help my blood sugar, though I'm not positive,

> and 1 gram of L-glutamine on an empty stomach, hoping it would stimulate my

HGH

> production and thereby have some positive effect on hormonal balance.

>

> I in fact felt great all day today. I woke up at 7, left at 8, got there at

> nine, got out at 11:30, and I'm just eating now at 2:00 (aside from a tiny

> piece of bread (maybe a quarter " slice " at most) around 11:15). My singing,

> which usually suffers, and sometimes badly, from low blood sugar, or high

> cortisol, or some such problem, was far better than usual, and it all went by

about 5

> times faster than it usually does.

>

> So, for folks who are trying or plan to try the WD or some similar regimen I

> reccomend that if you expect or find the first few days to give you problems

> fasting, try using moderately large doses of magnesium and L-glutamine, one of

> them or the combination helped me enormously.

>

> Chris

>

Sounds like a winner. As I am glancing through the book I notice he has

recommended supplements for people going through the adaptation phase of

the diet. He mentions a number of things (including probiotics and

enzymes) but he also mentions magnesium and glutamine.