Guest guest Posted March 24, 2004 Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 Rodney: Seafood is a good source. on 3/24/2004 11:20 AM, Rodney at perspect1111@... wrote: > MY COMMENT: This evidence is all rather circumstantial. But, in my > opinion, it is another reason to minimize the foods that contain > excessive quantities of sodium. But if iodized salt is eliminated > from the diet an alternative source of iodine will presumably be > necessary. One gram of kelp per month (sic) should do the trick in > that respect. > > Rodney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2004 Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 Thanks, Rodney, A good find. Just to add: "In summary, a lifetime of high (relative to our evolutionary levels) dietary sodium tends to inhibit the Na/K ATPase pump via endogenous natriuretic factors; the inhibition of the pump changes ionic flux across the membrane such that intracellular Na and Ca levels are increased; and K+, Mg+, H+ levels are reduced. Changes in intracellular ionic concentrations are necessary early events in both mitosis and oncogenesis causing quiescent cells to proliferate." A good hypothesis for the mechanism for HTN as well. Regards. ----- Original Message ----- From: Rodney Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 10:20 AM Subject: [ ] Sodium/Cancer Hi folks:More on a possible connection between excessive sodium levels and cancer:http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/CGI/wa.exe?A2=ind9805 & L=paleodiet & F= & S= & P=3620http://snipurl.com/5acvExcerpts: MY COMMENT: This evidence is all rather circumstantial. But, in my opinion, it is another reason to minimize the foods that contain excessive quantities of sodium. But if iodized salt is eliminated from the diet an alternative source of iodine will presumably be necessary. One gram of kelp per month (sic) should do the trick in that respect.Rodney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2004 Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 Another thing SR16 doesn't have. A real handy ref for RDA's http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/etext/000105.html http://books.nap.edu/books/0309072794/html/260.html#pagetop I guess 150 micrograms? Upper limit 1100 mcg. Pistachio seed is 51 ppm per Duke's db. http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/duke/highchem.pl That's 1446 mcg per oz? I get too much from an oz of pistachios? ----- Original Message ----- From: Francesca Skelton Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [ ] Sodium/Cancer Rodney: Seafood is a good source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2004 Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 Hi Jw: Your third link here looks like it may be a comprehensive listing of the iodine content of foods. Unfortunately it doesn't work for me. Is there a way I can get to see it? Thanks. Rodney. --- In , " jwwright " <jwwright@e...> wrote: > Another thing SR16 doesn't have. > A real handy ref for RDA's > http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/etext/000105.html > > http://books.nap.edu/books/0309072794/html/260.html#pagetop > I guess 150 micrograms? Upper limit 1100 mcg. > > Pistachio seed is 51 ppm per Duke's db. > http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/duke/highchem.pl > > That's 1446 mcg per oz? I get too much from an oz of pistachios? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Francesca Skelton > > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 11:07 AM > Subject: Re: [ ] Sodium/Cancer > > > Rodney: Seafood is a good source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2004 Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 Hi Jw: Cancel that earlier request. I found it via Google: Species Part Quantity ------------------- ------------------------- -------- Fucus vesiculosus L. -- Bladderwrack, Kelp Plant 5,400 ppm Pistacia vera L. -- Pistachio Seed 51 ppm Glycine max (L.) MERR. -- Soybean Seed 16 ppm Juniperus virginiana L. -- Red Cedar Shoot 10 ppm Liquidambar styraciflua L. -- American Styrax, Sweetgum Stem 6 ppm Pinus echinata MILLER -- Shortleaf Pine Shoot 6 ppm Quercus alba L. -- White Oak Stem 6 ppm Quercus phellos L. -- Willow Oak Stem 6 ppm Rhus glabra L. -- Smooth Sumac Stem 6 ppm Symphoricarpos orbiculatus MOENCH. -- Buckbush Stem 6 ppm Carya glabra (MILLER) SWEET -- Pignut Hickory Shoot 5 ppm Carya ovata (MILL.) K. KOCH -- Shagbark Hickory Shoot 5 ppm Quercus rubra L. -- Northern Red Oak Stem 5 ppm Quercus stellata WANGENH. -- Post Oak Stem 5 ppm Quercus velutina LAM. -- Black Oak Stem 5 ppm Cinnamomum sieboldii -- Japanese Cinnamon Root Bark 4 ppm Cinnamomum verum J. PRESL -- Ceylon Cinnamon, Cinnamon Bark 3 ppm Rumex acetosa L. -- Garden Sorrel Leaf 2 ppm Ipomoea aquatica FORSSKAL -- Swamp Cabbage, Water Spinach Leaf 1.5 ppm Lagenaria siceraria (MOLINA) STANDLEY. -- Calabash Gourd, White- Flowered Gourd Fruit 1.12 ppm Ananas comosus (L.) MERR. -- Pineapple Fruit 1 ppm Cinnamomum aromaticum NEES -- Canela de la China (Sp.), Canelero chino (Sp.), Canelle de Cochinchine (Fr.), Cannelier Casse (Fr.), Cannelier de Chine (Fr.), Cassia, Cassia Bark, Cassia Lignea, China Junk Cassia, Chinazimt (Ger.), Chinese Cassia, Chinese Cinnamon, Chinesischer Zimtbaum (Ger.), Kashia-Keihi (Jap.), Saigon Cinnamon, Zimtcassie (Ger.) Bark 1 ppm Rodney. --- In , " jwwright " <jwwright@e...> wrote: > Another thing SR16 doesn't have. > A real handy ref for RDA's > http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/etext/000105.html > > http://books.nap.edu/books/0309072794/html/260.html#pagetop > I guess 150 micrograms? Upper limit 1100 mcg. > > Pistachio seed is 51 ppm per Duke's db. > http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/duke/highchem.pl > > That's 1446 mcg per oz? I get too much from an oz of pistachios? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Francesca Skelton > > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 11:07 AM > Subject: Re: [ ] Sodium/Cancer > > > Rodney: Seafood is a good source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2004 Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 Hi folks: So, in short, the table posted by JW shows that the entire iodine requirement can be satisfied by MONTHLY ingestion of: 0.83 g kelp, or 88 g pistachios, or 281 g soybeans, or ........... 4.5 kg cinnamon. I hope I have gotten that right. Rodney. > > Another thing SR16 doesn't have. > > A real handy ref for RDA's > > http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/etext/000105.html > > > > http://books.nap.edu/books/0309072794/html/260.html#pagetop > > I guess 150 micrograms? Upper limit 1100 mcg. > > > > Pistachio seed is 51 ppm per Duke's db. > > http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/duke/highchem.pl > > > > That's 1446 mcg per oz? I get too much from an oz of pistachios? > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Francesca Skelton > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 11:07 AM > > Subject: Re: [ ] Sodium/Cancer > > > > > > Rodney: Seafood is a good source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2004 Report Share Posted March 25, 2004 --- In , " jwwright " <jwwright@e...> wrote: > And considering that I like pistachios, 1 oz per day, this is a shock. > But I want to see you eat 0.83 gm of anything spread over a month. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rodney > So, in short, the table posted by JW shows that the entire iodine > requirement can be satisfied by MONTHLY ingestion of: > > 88 g pistachios Hi All, Is that not 88 g/30 days = almost 3 g/day? Most of the iodine is from salt on the nuts, is it not? Get unsalted nuts. Cheers, Al Pater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2004 Report Share Posted March 25, 2004 --- In , " old542000 " <apater@m...> wrote:> > Hi All, > > Is that not 88 g/30 days = almost 3 g/day? > > Most of the iodine is from salt on the nuts, is it not? Get unsalted > nuts. > > Cheers, Al Pater. PS: http://www.nutrition.org/nutinfo/ is good for information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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