Iodine Sources

[Guest guest]

Hi folks:

Now if we could find a comprehensive list of the iodine content of

animal/fish sources, we would have the whole story.

Not easy to locate.

Rodney.

[Guest guest]

My experience is, if it's not in SR16 or Duke's I can't trust it anyway.

And the search engines are getting pathetic.

Regards.

----- Original Message -----

From: Rodney

Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 4:45 PM

Subject: [ ] Iodine Sources

Hi folks:Now if we could find a comprehensive list of the iodine content of animal/fish sources, we would have the whole story.Not easy to locate.Rodney.

[Guest guest]

Meth labs. At least that's the FDA answer - it's a key ingredient in meth

production. I'm getting my iodine with dulse and am ordering dulse drops.

I'm tired of the whole lock-dock on Lugol and the insanity of it.

Sharon

On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 12:45 PM, <amanda@...>

wrote:

>

> does anyone know why sources of Lugol's iodine are limited to one bottle

> per transaction on various sites per DEA/FDA regulations? and also why there

> is a limit to the strength of iodine you can purchase? what is the issue

> with taking iodine as a supplement? why is it being regulated so heavily?

>

> amanda

>

>

[Guest guest]

okay, i think i just found the answer to my question. all about keeping the

drug (meth) makers from getting their hands on the stuff. how ridiculous.

i am considering trying iodine as a supplement b/c i read how it helps with body

temp regulation and i have Raynaud's. i have eliminated gluten and all grains,

gone on a high fat low carb diet, but i am not finding these changes to help.

has anyone used Lugol's solution as a supplement? the dosage is only 1-2 drops.

if i order this am i going to be put on a list with the DEA? LOL.

amanda

does anyone know why sources of Lugol's iodine are limited to one bottle per

transaction on various sites per DEA/FDA regulations? and also why there is a

limit to the strength of iodine you can purchase? what is the issue with taking

iodine as a supplement? why is it being regulated so heavily?

amanda

.

[Guest guest]

Relevant excerpt from Dr. Price at:

http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library/price/price15.html

Discusses the mountain Peruvians vs. their seaside brothers and

sisters. The mountain ones kept dried fish eggs and kelp in a bag.

Re: fish eggs...

" When I inquired of them why they used this material they explained

that it was necessary to maintain the fertility of their women. "

Re: kelp...

" Upon inquiry I learned that the Indians used it so that they would

not get " big necks " like the whites. The kelp provided a very rich

source of iodine as well as of copper, which is very important to

them in the utilization of iron for building an exceptionally

efficient quality of blood for carrying oxygen liberally at those

high altitudes. "

Read the WHOLE page though. It's the synergy of the whole diet that

made them healthy. Lugol's isolates iodine and potassium iodide.

Check out the " companion nutrients " protocol recommended by the

doctors who are using iodine as therapy:

http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/iprotocol.html

Also read Folk Medicine by D.C. Jarvis, M.D. (a compatriot of Dr.

Price). He says Vermont farmers knew to put seaweed in the soil, and

talks about plants that will take up iodine and other trace minerals.

I have been adding a few drops of Lugol's to my CLO and Beet Kvass

cocktail for about a year. I also add seaweed to my bone broths and

ferments, and I don't mind chomping on uncooked frozen fish. I'm

also on the smallest dose of Armour.

It seems to have helped with lessening heart palpitations, but then

again, it's been a year of transitioning through menopause, so I

can't be certain what is affecting what. No great miracles regarding

metabolism though.

Nice source for clean seaweed:

http://www.alcasoft.com/seaweed/

I noticed that both Dr. Brownstein and Lynn Farrow (from Breast

Cancer choices) are presenting at the next WAPF conference. Does

this mean that WAPF endorses a presenter's position or just wants to

hear more? Anyone know?

> i am considering trying iodine as a supplement b/c i read how it

helps with body temp regulation and i have Raynaud's. i have

eliminated gluten and all grains, gone on a high fat low carb diet,

but i am not finding these changes to help. has anyone used Lugol's

solution as a supplement? the dosage is only 1-2 drops.

[Guest guest]

Hi, Jo

I really appreciate the information. Could you possibly send the book on

iodine to me, directly to my

email? I would be very grateful as I was just about to order some dulse

iodine drops. Thank you!

Sharon

On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Jo Fahey <maryjofahey@...> wrote:

> Hi and Sharon,

>

> I wrote a small book on iodine that's available in the files section

> of the Madison, WI Weston Price chapter e-group site:

>

> wapfmadisonchapter

>

> I don't mind if the book is uploaded to the Native Nutrition e-group.

> I tried to include every bit of information I could think of

> (background information, forms of iodine, sources, etc.)

>

> I will be manufacturing the book in a printed format later this year.

> I need to add copy-edits but most of the information won't change.

>

> I spoke to the Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) several times. You can

> purchase several one-ounce (5%) bottles from the same supplier as

> separate transactions (same phone call, same day, etc). The 2% can be

> sold in larger bottles. It's really the 5% bottles that are

> regulated. As Sharon pointed out, the ruling (that went into effect

> August 1, 2007) is due to meth traffic.

>

> Lugol's has three ingredients:

>

> • iodine

> • potassium iodide

> * pure water

>

> The recipe for Lugol's is in the iodine book. Iodine is regulated but

> potassium iodide is not. Farmers can still purchase iodine crystals

> if they provide paperwork that proves that they are in the business

> of farming. Due to the meth traffic, the DEA will not allow chemical

> companies to sell iodine to anyone in a residential area.

>

> DeForest Jarvis was a Vermont ear, nose and throat doctor but also

> helped Vermont farmers give Lugol's to their animals.

>

> You can purchase 500 mg. of potassium iodide crystals from NASCO in

> Ft. Atkinson, WI for about $40—this much potassium iodide makes about

> eight, two ounce bottles. The iodine doctors have determined that

> different organs in the human body prefer different forms of iodine

> (iodine and potassium iodide). Lugol's is a very good formula because

> it contains both forms.

>

> Saturated Solution of Potassium Iodine (SSKI) is a clear liquid and

> it's more potent than Lugol's. The recipe for (SSKI) is in my book. I

> have also included remedies for both Lugol's and SSKI. SSKI can be

> taken internally and it's also used for topical applications because

> it's clear. I've been experimenting with it as a deodorant.

>

> Lugol's and SSKI are both old-fashioned remedies. Mainstream medicine

> recognizes SSKI is an expectorant (it's actually much more than an

> expectorant). Martha, my co-chapter leader, remembers taking SSKI as

> a child for a lung infection.

>

> BTW: It is important to take selenium along with iodine (scientists

> do not understand why—they only know this to be true from what they

> have observed). Selenium is very important for a lot of reasons. I

> found research this week in a Polish scientific journal that found

> low selenium in children with food allergies—compared to healthy

> children without food allergies.

>

> Sharon—dulse contains very little iodine. There's a chart in a

> chapter I wrote about seaweed. Kelp is high in iodine but you still

> need to eat a lot to get what the iodine doctors consider to be a

> maintenance dose.

>

> DeForest Jarvis' recipe for Lugol's, apple cider vinegar and some

> honey —in water—tastes a little better than just Lugol's and water.

>

> Jo

> Madison, WI

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> iodine sources

> Posted by: " " amanda@... apbabyem

> Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:45 am (PDT)

>

>

> does anyone know why sources of Lugol's iodine are limited to one

> bottle per transaction on various sites per DEA/FDA regulations? and

> also why there is a limit to the strength of iodine you can purchase?

> what is the issue with taking iodine as a supplement? why is it being

> regulated so heavily?

>

> amanda

>

>

> 4b.

> Re: iodine sources

> Posted by: " Sharon son " skericson@... notmyown_1cor6

> Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:52 am (PDT)

>

> Meth labs. At least that's the FDA answer - it's a key ingredient in

> meth

> production. I'm getting my iodine with dulse and am ordering dulse

> drops.

> I'm tired of the whole lock-dock on Lugol and the insanity of it.

> Sharon

>

> On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 12:45 PM,

> <amanda@...>

> wrote:

>

>

[Guest guest]

Not all crystal deodorant has aluminum.

I use the Thai Crystal Deodorant stick.

http://www.life-enthusiast.com/index/Brands/ThaiCrystal

On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 8:44 PM, ChrissieGirl <bunnyearsfamily@...>

wrote:

> I've been using iodine as a deoderant too! I use the Lugol's kind (when

> it's

> winter I don't care if it browns my armpits!) and it works really well. So

> far I've been alternating it with the " crystal deodorant " which I think is

> alum (aluminum - ack!). I can't use any store deodorant because I get

> horrible painful rashes!

>

> ~I have just discovered white distilled vinegar as deodorant! It

> is great! Put a little on a cotton ball and dab on, let dry. No smell; mine

> or the vinegars! Works great for 24 hours!

>

> Bunnyearsfamily Heritage Farm

>

> firstclassskagitcounty.org

>

> Stanwood, WA

>

> _____

>

> From: < %40>

> [mailto: < %40>]

> On Behalf Of haecklers

> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 2:39 PM

> < %40>

> Subject: Re: iodine sources

>

> RE: your iodine research - Someone recently said that potassium iodide

> could cause iodine deficiency and more thyroid problems because it

> clogs some receptor or something like that.

>

> SSKI can be

> > taken internally and it's also used for topical applications because

> > it's clear. I've been experimenting with it as a deodorant.

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Ann Marie,

Thank you!

I've been taking selenomethionine from Solaray.

I understand that Innate's selenium is better (Innate and New Chapter

are companies that make whole food supplements).

Buist, who runs the iodine group at , has small

children and she can advise you about dosages for children. BTW:

cured her thyroid cancer with iodine. She worked with Dr.

Brownstein.

Jo

Re: iodine sources

Posted by: " inasnit@... " inasnit@... ammichaels

Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:09 pm (PDT)

> BTW: It is important to take selenium along with iodine (scientists

> do not understand why—they only know this to be true from what they

> have observed). Selenium is very important for a lot of reasons. I

Jo,

Thanks so much for this post!

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Here's a small blurb from my book.

Dr. Flechas says the thyroid likes the iodide form.

Jo

[Dr. Flechas] In an audio interview with Dr. Flechas, available

on breastcancerchoices.org, he explains that the organs of the body

prefer different forms of iodine:

• Stomach tissue prefers iodine

• Thyroid tissue prefers iodide

• Breast tissue needs both iodine and iodide

• Brain tissue prefers iodide

Re: iodine sources

Posted by: " haecklers " haecklers@... haecklers

Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:38 pm (PDT)

I've been using iodine as a deoderant too! I use the Lugol's kind

(when it's winter I don't care if it browns my armpits!) and it works

really well. So far I've been alternating it with the " crystal

deoderant " which I think is alum (aluminum - ack!). I can't use any

store deoderant because I get horrible painful rashes!

RE: your iodine research - Someone recently said that potassium iodide

could cause iodine deficiency and more thyroid problems because it

clogs some receptor or something like that.

SSKI can be

> taken internally and it's also used for topical applications because

> it's clear. I've been experimenting with it as a deodorant.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Vinegar sounds like a good choice.

The kefir and kombucha group recommend rinsing hands with white

vinegar before touching a scoby.

It makes sense that vinegar would control odor from bacteria.

Most of the health food store deoderants don't work and I have always

wondered about whether the alum sticks are safe.

Jo

Re: iodine sources

Posted by: " ChrissieGirl " bunnyearsfamily@... bunnyearsfamily

Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:44 pm (PDT)

I've been using iodine as a deoderant too! I use the Lugol's kind

(when it's

winter I don't care if it browns my armpits!) and it works really

well. So

far I've been alternating it with the " crystal deodorant " which I

think is

alum (aluminum - ack!). I can't use any store deodorant because I get

horrible painful rashes!

~I have just discovered white distilled vinegar as deodorant! It

is great! Put a little on a cotton ball and dab on, let dry. No

smell; mine

or the vinegars! Works great for 24 hours!

Bunnyearsfamily Heritage Farm

firstclassskagitcounty.org

Stanwood, WA

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info! I have Hashimoto's Thyroiditis and was watched for a

few years for thyroid cancer. I feel so good on the Lugol's but I do detox

pretty bad so I have to go slow.

It gives me hope that others are healing with supplementation. I was sure I

would be stuck with this for life. I need to get on Armour only but my

endocrinologist (Dr. Arem) is in Houston and I don't have the gas money to

pay for the trip plus out of pocket labs and what not and he even was

waiving his office visit for me. Does Dr. Brownstein do phone consults?

I'm on Armour and Levoxyl because my body wasn't converting one type to the

other (can never remember if it's t3 to t4 or vice versa). I suspect with

the iodine that will be improved.

Dawn

Re: iodine sources

Hi Ann Marie,

Thank you!

I've been taking selenomethionine from Solaray.

I understand that Innate's selenium is better (Innate and New Chapter

are companies that make whole food supplements).

Buist, who runs the iodine group at , has small

children and she can advise you about dosages for children. BTW:

cured her thyroid cancer with iodine. She worked with Dr.

Brownstein.

Jo

Re: iodine sources

Posted by: " inasnit@... " inasnit@... ammichaels

Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:09 pm (PDT)

> BTW: It is important to take selenium along with iodine (scientists

> do not understand why-they only know this to be true from what they

> have observed). Selenium is very important for a lot of reasons. I

Jo,

Thanks so much for this post!

[Guest guest]

Hi Dawn,

Dr. Brownstein might do phone consults.

You might also consider contacting Dr. Flechas about his iodine

loading test.

Dr. Brownstein and Dr. Flechas are working together on clinical trials.

There's a woman in our chapter who has been working with Dr. Flechas

remotely.

Jo

Re: iodine sources

Posted by: " Pendraig Siberians " blaidd2@... lady_cigfran

Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:50 pm (PDT)

Thanks for the info! I have Hashimoto's Thyroiditis and was watched

for a

few years for thyroid cancer. I feel so good on the Lugol's but I do

detox

pretty bad so I have to go slow.

It gives me hope that others are healing with supplementation. I was

sure I

would be stuck with this for life. I need to get on Armour only but my

endocrinologist (Dr. Arem) is in Houston and I don't have the gas

money to

pay for the trip plus out of pocket labs and what not and he even was

waiving his office visit for me. Does Dr. Brownstein do phone consults?

I'm on Armour and Levoxyl because my body wasn't converting one type

to the

other (can never remember if it's t3 to t4 or vice versa). I suspect

with

the iodine that will be improved.

Dawn

[Guest guest]

I am also working with Dr. Flechas remotely. The spot and loading test

is about $100 ($115 I think?) It's $100 extra if you want to test for

heavy metals (important if you are planning on conceiving anytime

soon, or nursing).

I'm actually doing the urine collection today. Then tomorrow I will

mail it back to the lab for testing. A phone consultation with Dr.

Flechas is included in the price. You do need to have your own source

of Iodoral (you need to take 4 pills for the loading test).

Here's Dr. Flechas' website: http://cypress.he.net/~bigmacnc/drflechas/index.htm

Ann Marie

On Apr 25, 2008, at 8:18 AM, Jo Fahey wrote:

>

> Dr. Brownstein might do phone consults.

> You might also consider contacting Dr. Flechas about his iodine

> loading test.

[Guest guest]

Hi, Jo, thanks very much for that information.

I just did my iodine spot test and am doing the loading test today.

Woo hoo! They are testing me for heavy metal toxicity as well. I am

working with Dr. Flechas.

And I am on the iodine group and have emailed back and forth with

. I think she said she was not sure about a 1-year-old but I

am going to ask Dr. Flechas when I speak to him for my consultation.

Thanks again,

Ann Marie

On Apr 24, 2008, at 9:07 PM, Jo Fahey wrote:

>

>

> I've been taking selenomethionine from Solaray.

>

> I understand that Innate's selenium is better (Innate and New Chapter

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Jo. =) I will save up for this. Can someone privately send

me his website or contact info? I am sure you did to the list but I missed

it.

I just had a beautiful baby boy last August but I would like to get

healthier over the next 2 years for the next baby. turned out very

well but I don't want to risk having depleted what little nutrition I had

stored up and not having any for the 2nd kid! =)

I am still so amazed and overjoyed that I was able to conceive, have a

healthy pregnancy and have a wonderful baby after years of being told I

couldn't and was infertile because of PCOS. So I have definitely come a

long way and it is in part due to the wonderful people on here helping me

help myself.

Thanks so much,

Dawn

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Jo Fahey

Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 10:19 AM

Subject: Re: iodine sources

Hi Dawn,

Dr. Brownstein might do phone consults.

You might also consider contacting Dr. Flechas about his iodine

loading test.

Dr. Brownstein and Dr. Flechas are working together on clinical trials.

There's a woman in our chapter who has been working with Dr. Flechas

remotely.

Jo

Re: iodine sources

Posted by: " Pendraig Siberians " blaidd2@...

<mailto:blaidd2%40pendraig.us> lady_cigfran

Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:50 pm (PDT)

Thanks for the info! I have Hashimoto's Thyroiditis and was watched

for a

few years for thyroid cancer. I feel so good on the Lugol's but I do

detox

pretty bad so I have to go slow.

It gives me hope that others are healing with supplementation. I was

sure I

would be stuck with this for life. I need to get on Armour only but my

endocrinologist (Dr. Arem) is in Houston and I don't have the gas

money to

pay for the trip plus out of pocket labs and what not and he even was

waiving his office visit for me. Does Dr. Brownstein do phone consults?

I'm on Armour and Levoxyl because my body wasn't converting one type

to the

other (can never remember if it's t3 to t4 or vice versa). I suspect

with

the iodine that will be improved.

Dawn

[Guest guest]

Dr. Flechas

http://cypress.he.net/~bigmacnc/drflechas/index.htm

On Apr 25, 2008, at 2:21 PM, Pendraig Siberians wrote:

> Thanks, Jo. =) I will save up for this. Can someone

> privately send

> me his website or contact info? I am sure you did to the list but I

> missed

> it.