Guest guest Posted February 15, 2004 Report Share Posted February 15, 2004 HI Fran, I have mulled that question over for many years. At 15yo I noticed a very large population of heavies retiring in Fla. It was obvious the older peple got the fatter they got. I think the answer is, if a person has good kidneys, a good heart, and mobility enough to wash, cook, get groceries, they live longer AND they get fatter. They don't live longer because they got fat. They simply haven't reached a critical failure point. Also, it's obvious that we don't absorb all we eat. Some part of that we eat feeds the bacteria and that could be used to add weight, if the body chose, but it isn't. Regards. ----- Original Message ----- From: Francesca Skelton support group Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 1:11 PM Subject: [ ] anecdote My former mother-in-law, (the grandmother of my two children) will be96 this month. She's fat, has not eaten in a particularly healthy manner,loves sweets and has never exercised or taken particularly good care ofherself. One of her mottos was: "there is no such thing as any food beingtoo sweet". Unlike her own mother who developed dementia in her 80's, is of sound mind and other than a slow gait, is in excellent health.She is a widow who lives alone and cares for herself. She broke a hip acouple of years ago (someone shoved into her in the supermarket) andunbelievably, completely recovered from that. She recently fell again inher apt which has now prompted her closest relatives to have somone come induring the day to check on her. Until now she was entirely independent.She is a pious woman and has always had a cheerful outlook on life and asmile on her face. But as for nutrition, that has never been important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2004 Report Share Posted February 16, 2004 my 88 year old aunt who was my only " health nut " ally in the family just died of dementia. she was generous, loving, creative, musical, prosperous and humble. her healthy living never alientated anyone. she never missed a very early morning of brisk swimming and to the end was slim and glowing, altho she couldn't find her way to the other side of the room or comb her hair. everyone left blames her " illness " on her crazy lifestyle. that is the craziest part of all. fruitgirl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2004 Report Share Posted February 16, 2004 Could you elaborate on her foods (crazy lifestyle), please? Regards. ----- Original Message ----- From: autumnji@... Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [ ]anecdote my 88 year old aunt who was my only "health nut" ally in the family just died of dementia. she wasgenerous, loving, creative, musical, prosperous andhumble. her healthy living never alientated anyone. she never missed a very early morning of brisk swimming and to the end was slim and glowing, altho she couldn't find her way to the other side of the room or comb her hair. everyone left blames her "illness" on her crazy lifestyle.that is the craziest part of all.fruitgirl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2004 Report Share Posted February 16, 2004 How long did the rest of your family members live? >From: autumnji@... >Reply- > >Subject: Re: [ ]anecdote >Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 10:48:55 -0500 > >my 88 year old aunt who was my only " health nut " >ally in the family just died of dementia. she was >generous, loving, creative, musical, prosperous and >humble. her healthy living never alientated anyone. >she never missed a very early morning of brisk swimming and to the end was >slim and glowing, altho she couldn't find >her way to the other side of the room or comb her hair. everyone left >blames her " illness " on her crazy lifestyle. >that is the craziest part of all. >fruitgirl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 <<How long did the rest of your family members live?>> her kids, adults in 50's and 60's are either obese or smokers/drinkers. her 3 surviving sisters are all bigtime SAD eaters and have high bp, arthritis, poor vision, high cholesterol, anxiety etc. the sister that died was only in her 70's and ate whatever she pleased. my folks who criticize her " crazy lifestyle " more than anyone have more health problems than anyone i know. we are leaving in a minute to see my dad in the hospital. he has widespread cancer on top of all his other issues. <<Could you elaborate on her foods (crazy lifestyle), please? Regards.>> yes. she was my only mentor in the family, ate mostly fresh fruit and veggies. a tea called sunrider. regularly recieved massages and exercised an hour early every morning. im thinking the dementia could have been caused by the chlorine in the pools. keep CR'ing, fruitgirl << my 88 year old aunt who was my only " health nut " ally in the family just died of dementia. she was generous, loving, creative, musical, prosperous and humble. her healthy living never alienated anyone. she never missed a very early morning of brisk swimming and to the end was slim and glowing, altho she couldn't find her way to the other side of the room or comb her hair. everyone left blames her " illness " on her crazy lifestyle. that is the craziest part of all. fruitgirl>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2006 Report Share Posted August 11, 2006 Careful, Rodney, those "old" ladies can look 60 and be 80. ERT does wonders. Regards. [ ] Anecdote Hi folks:I was standing in the checkout line in a supermarket in a jewish neighborhood a couple of days ago. In front of me was a ~60 year old, trim, healthy looking female who had only very healthy foods in her cart.As I sometimes do in such circumstances I said to her: "You know, if you are not very careful, eating stuff like that you may live to be 100." She smiled at the compliment and a discussion ensued (as it usually does).She had an exotic looking fruit among her items so I asked her: "Are those things good?" At that moment a man dressed as if he might be the local rabbi was walking past (not that I would recognize a rabbi if my life depended on it). Without missing a step he turned as he continued on his way and said: "Eating kosher is good."So I asked: "Is eating kosher healthy?"This stopped him in his tracks! He turned, and after a few seconds reflection, with extraordinary open-mindedness, he replied: "I don't know if it is healthy. But it is good."So I said: "Well, I eat for my health."To which he replied, with a big smile: "Yes, I can tell that from looking at you!"Of course he was being polite. But I suspect we all had big smiles on our faces for quite some time afterwards.Rodney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2006 Report Share Posted August 11, 2006 Kosher food is not necessarily healthy. It is just manufactured under rabbinical supervision. I have seen many examples of foods containing partially hydrogenated fats which carry the U or K signs to indicate that the product is Kosher. Partially hydrogenated fats are worse for your health than pork fat. If the religious leadership were well trained in nutrition, they could improve the health of their congregations substantially by not giving their seal of approval to foods containing deleterious substances. Tony > > > Hi folks: > > > > I was standing in the checkout line in a supermarket in a jewish > > neighborhood a couple of days ago. In front of me was a ~60 year > > old, trim, healthy looking female who had only very healthy foods in > > her cart. > > > > As I sometimes do in such circumstances I said to her: " You know, if > > you are not very careful, eating stuff like that you may live to be > > 100. " She smiled at the compliment and a discussion ensued (as it > > usually does). > > > > She had an exotic looking fruit among her items so I asked her: " Are > > those things good? " At that moment a man dressed as if he might be > > the local rabbi was walking past (not that I would recognize a rabbi > > if my life depended on it). Without missing a step he turned as he > > continued on his way and said: " Eating kosher is good. " > > > > So I asked: " Is eating kosher healthy? " > > > > This stopped him in his tracks! He turned, and after a few seconds > > reflection, with extraordinary open-mindedness, he replied: " I don't > > know if it is healthy. But it is good. " > > > > So I said: " Well, I eat for my health. " > > > > To which he replied, with a big smile: " Yes, I can tell that from > > looking at you! " > > > > Of course he was being polite. But I suspect we all had big smiles > > on our faces for quite some time afterwards. > > > > Rodney. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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