Young Living Essential Oils NOT

July 29, 2008

I prefer buying essential oils from someone who will not only give you

the tests run on the oils he sells (batch coded) but will also steer you

to professionals who will help you interpret them.

He's been selling bulk essential oils for many years and knows all the

ins and outs of adulteration, extending, folding and producing/producing

an EO to specific standards. For example, General Mills may require an

essential oil with a specific chemical profile--and they don't care how

that profile is achieved so long as the ingredients are " natural " to

that essential oil. So batch x has only 10% of say eugenol and they want

50%, it's ok with them to fold in other batches having greater

percentages of eugenol to bring the total % up to their standard. This

is not a standard practice for those using aromatherapy for internal or

external purposes.

He also studied independently of any MLM to determine what constitutes a

therapeutic essential oil under what circumstances. And freely shares

his knowledge with annotations and sources. Those whose education of EOs

is limited to that provided by a MLM often have some good info but

they've not been exposed to the richness of experience and scientific

standards available outside of their MLM. For example, Purdue Univ

offers an amazing class during the summers on essential oils that MLM

folks often just plain don't know about much less aspire to attend.

His essential oils are purchased by nearly every rebottler selling

essential oils in the US and AU, not sure about elsewhere. They are

available retail at http://www.av-at.com/

Dr. Rob Pappas sells EOs that are well tested as well at

http://essentialoils.org/ He has developed some of the more

sophisticated protocols for determining

adulteration/folding/extending--cheating-- for the essential oil

industry. Again, persons who are educated about Essential Oils know his

name and may have used his testing service. He used to teach with Sylla

at the http://www.atlanticinstitute.com/

I'd also purchase from Marge at

http://www.naturesgift.com/specbook.htm She's a woman of integrity,

understands testing and essential oils and educates at every turn while

helping to heal.

You don't have to pay MLM prices to get excellent essential oils but you

do have to be independently educated about essential oils to do so.

Saralou

Silva wrote:

>

> Well, looks like Helen's sold on Young Living Essential Oils.

> If you find a source, Helen, please inform.

> How 'bout the rest of you?

> Who do you think makes the Best Essential Oils & which are your favorites?

>

> -richard-

>

July 30, 2008

Well, is he paying you for your glowing words

and time spent putting them together?

>

> Well, looks like Helen's sold on Young Living Essential Oils.

> If you find a source, Helen, please inform.

> How 'bout the rest of you?

> Who do you think makes the Best Essential Oils & which are your favorites?

>

> -richard-

>

July 30, 2008

Not close, Helen, And you? Sometimes justice and right are motivation

enough to spend time. [And it didn't take much. The post I sent to the

Silver List (it must be YL season) took a bit more time because I had to

find Dr. Baser. ] It appears I have a bit more education/experience in

Aromatherapy than some people posting. It may be I can help save someone

some money or sensitization due to misuse of EOs.

If you know anything about aromatherapy in the USA in the last 15 years,

you have been enchanted and enraged by Butch Owens. He's a special

character. But he doesn't take advantage of people like the

Young. If you will notice, there wasn't much (if anything) in what I

wrote that isn't directly verifiable. He was one of many examples I

could give you of persons who understand enough about essential oils

that they also understand about YL essential oils but sell them for a

smaller profit margin. And you'll notice I wrote less about Dr. Rob

and Marge even tho' their contributions to Aromatherapy soar along

with many others. Even Young. His personal character, so easily

discerned back in the mid to late '90s, made everyone dealing in

essential oils way more alert, understanding and educated regarding how

to determine an honest/good/therapeutic essential oil.

Clearly I didn't put the words together well enough (but thank you) or

my point about education would not have gone by the wayside. When

applying the word " therapeutic " to an essential oil and maybe adding

" pure " or " grade " is a very subjective issue IMO a marketing issue. EOs

made out of stems and sticks have different therapeutic application than

EOs made from the leaves of the same plant. If you don't know the

difference, you read Tisserand, Watt, Schnaubelt, Warwood, Buckle,

Battaglia, Shepard-Hanger, Rose, or Valnet or any of a hundred other

people who've written about EO properties and ascribe therapeutic

value--but don't have the same EO they're profiling. Worse yet, you

read an Herbal and ascribe the properties of an herbal preparation to a

product that's been through steam distillation.

Saralou

helen/zhebee wrote:

>

> Well, is he paying you for your glowing words

> and time spent putting them together?

>

> >

>

> > Well, looks like Helen's sold on Young Living Essential Oils.

>

> > If you find a source, Helen, please inform.

>

> > How 'bout the rest of you?

>

> > Who do you think makes the Best Essential Oils & which are your

> favorites?

>

> >

>

July 30, 2008

At 03:28 PM 7/30/2008, you wrote:

>Well, is he paying you for your glowing words

>and time spent putting them together?

Butch has no need to. He's been around a long time and offers a fair value

for your money. I'm not certain that he is stillhaving all his oils tested

since he's moved back from Turkey.

And he doesn't supply 'nearly every rebottler selling essential oils in the

US. "

He's well respected in the industry.

One of the reasons that Butch and I get along is that we are on the same

page as far as EO safety is concerned. " Safe and appropriate use " ...which

is NOT something people will learn from YL or any other MLM that I've seen.

(And your comment about his enraging people made me chuckle.)

Since 1995 - supplying Aromatherapy and Healthcare Professionals

Website: http://www.naturesgift.com

Blog: http://naturesgiftaromatherapy.blogspot.com/

July 30, 2008

Well, is he paying you for your glowing words

and time spent putting them together?

??? I am thinking that this is in regard to the av-at business?? Don't mean to

be butting in on this conversation but I will say that, knowing Butch

personally, who is the owner, that he will not pay anyone to say anything about

his products.? He will very strongly tell you about his products.? There may be

many things said about him personally because he has a very strong personality

who makes no bones about his opinions.? I can honestly say in all of the years

that I have used his products (his rose hydrosols are out of this world) I have

never heard any thing said against his products.? Normally I am a lurker & guess

I better go back to lurkdom *S*? Sooo, I think the turtle is going back into her

shell.

?God Bless You & Yours,

Georgia (hahagranny)

~~~God's answers are wiser than our prayers~~~

~~~Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take but by the moments

that take your breath away~~~

~~~Never be bullied into silence. Never allow yourself to be made a victim.

Accept no one's definition of your life; define yourself.~~~ Harvey Fierstein

July 30, 2008

Hi Georgia

God bless you and yours, too!

Helen

From: Georgia (hahagranny) <hahagranny@...>

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