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We all do it differently. I don't fast; I find that many small meals help

me.

My husband is no CRONIE but he does accept the healthy food I serve. When

he's out of my sight, Lord only knows what he's eating.

Sounds like your husband has no need for CR: but he might need " ON "

(optimal nutrition). We all know people who were thin, but died young

anyway.

on 4/6/2004 9:07 AM, cdonegan264 at cdonegan264@... wrote:

> How are most of you maintaining your CR? Is anyone fasting one-two

> days a week?

>

> Is CRON mostly a solo journey? If you've gotten your significant

> other on board, how? (My husband is 6' tall and weighs 130 on a fat

> day - I'm not sure he's a great candidate for CR).

>

> Any advice on improving teen-age diets?

>

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>From: " cdonegan264 " <cdonegan264@...>

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>Subject: [ ] Fasting and family

>Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 13:07:25 -0000

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>How are most of you maintaining your CR? Is anyone fasting one-two

>days a week?

No fasts...just eat regularly as little and as well as I can get away

with...

>

>Is CRON mostly a solo journey? If you've gotten your significant

>other on board, how? (My husband is 6' tall and weighs 130 on a fat

>day - I'm not sure he's a great candidate for CR).

Solo for me. My wife thinks I'm too thin. She, of course, never is....

>

>Any advice on improving teen-age diets?

Tell 'em to eat the opposite of what you'd really like them to eat.

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Hi:

It looks like your husband is already on 'CR'. But whether he is or

not, as Francesca points out, the 'ON' of 'CRON' is especially

important for him. If he isn't on 'ON' he may, because of his

presumably low food intake, be seriously deficient in some critical

nutrients.

Best way to find out may be to monitor everything he eats for a month

and log it into some place like Fitday.com (free). I was quite

surprised to discover what was deficient from my diet. Never would

have guessed it without checking.

Rodney.

> How are most of you maintaining your CR? Is anyone fasting one-two

> days a week?

>

> Is CRON mostly a solo journey? If you've gotten your significant

> other on board, how? (My husband is 6' tall and weighs 130 on a fat

> day - I'm not sure he's a great candidate for CR).

>

> Any advice on improving teen-age diets?

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He's certainly never restricted calories on purpose, he's always

maintained he has a high metabolism. It would be interesting to see

how many calories he's eating and what nutrients he gets. He

maintains that his breakfast of juice, banana and poptart is the

healthy start he needs each day. Then he caps the day off with a big

bowl of ice cream at night.

I have Walford's program, so I'll take a look.

How does every body feel about vitamin supplementation? It would

seem that whole food vitamins would be better than isolates and

closer to eating the real thing.

> > How are most of you maintaining your CR? Is anyone fasting one-

two

> > days a week?

> >

> > Is CRON mostly a solo journey? If you've gotten your significant

> > other on board, how? (My husband is 6' tall and weighs 130 on a

fat

> > day - I'm not sure he's a great candidate for CR).

> >

> > Any advice on improving teen-age diets?

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Your reply is an eye-opener right there. He probably DOES have a high

metabolism. But he's eating mounds of junk. Pop tarts are nothing but

sugar and flour. Ice cream of course is not exactly a health food . It

might be hard to convince him that he's not eating right since he doesn't

gain weight, but I used to be just like that once upon a time.

on 4/6/2004 6:41 PM, cdonegan264 at cdonegan264@... wrote:

> He's certainly never restricted calories on purpose, he's always

> maintained he has a high metabolism. It would be interesting to see

> how many calories he's eating and what nutrients he gets. He

> maintains that his breakfast of juice, banana and poptart is the

> healthy start he needs each day. Then he caps the day off with a big

> bowl of ice cream at night.

>

> I have Walford's program, so I'll take a look.

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Terrific advice! Why didn't I think of that?

on 4/6/2004 4:27 PM, Dowling at dowlic@... wrote:

>> Any advice on improving teen-age diets?

>

> Tell 'em to eat the opposite of what you'd really like them to eat.

>>

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Hi 264:

Yes, whole foods are much better. But they also contain calories you

may not need. If you are eating a sensible diet and find you are

still deficient in a couple of important nutrients, it is much better

to supplement to make sure you get at least the RDA for them, than be

deficient. Also much better than to eat more food in order to get

the nutrients and put on weight.

If you can find a way to adjust your food intake to solve the

problem, so much the better. But there are also questions about how

much of what you put in your mouth is absorbed, or prevented from

being absorbed, by oxalic acid for example.

This is still an inexact science, it seems.

Rodney.

> > > How are most of you maintaining your CR? Is anyone fasting one-

> two

> > > days a week?

> > >

> > > Is CRON mostly a solo journey? If you've gotten your

significant

> > > other on board, how? (My husband is 6' tall and weighs 130 on a

> fat

> > > day - I'm not sure he's a great candidate for CR).

> > >

> > > Any advice on improving teen-age diets?

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Hi 264:

Another issue raised by your post is 'high metabolism'. I have often

wondered whether this phenomenon really exists. We are all aware of

people who seem to remain thin no matter how much they eat.

If indeed your husband does have a 'high metabolism' (assuming he

doesn't use huge amounts of exercise daily to burn off his calories?

Or immerse himself in frigid water for an hour or two daily (swimming

laps, perhaps)? Or run around with few clothes on with the

thermostat set at 60°F?) then the extra energy he burns off must show

up somewhere.

One would think that most likely the extra energy would be evidenced

by a higher body temperature. Energy cannot be simply destroyed

without trace so if he really is burning it then his body must, by

some means or other, be dissipating it to the environment. A higher

body temperature is a possibility.

It would be extraordinarily interesting if you were to take your

husband's temperature to see if it really is above average. Since

body temperature varies throughout the day - lower in the early

morning, higher later in the day I believe - it would be good to

watch it a few times a day if possible, over a few days.

If he doesn't have a higher than average body temperature then one

would have to ask how his body is dissipating the extra energy he

believes he is burning off. There are alternative explanations. One

is that his intestine may be absorbing fewer of the calories than the

average person.

Just a thought. If you find it convenient the temperature detail

might help to confirm, or perhaps question, the high metabolism

issue, depending on what you found.

Rodney.

> > > How are most of you maintaining your CR? Is anyone fasting one-

> two

> > > days a week?

> > >

> > > Is CRON mostly a solo journey? If you've gotten your

significant

> > > other on board, how? (My husband is 6' tall and weighs 130 on a

> fat

> > > day - I'm not sure he's a great candidate for CR).

> > >

> > > Any advice on improving teen-age diets?

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My husband doesn't exercise much nor immerse himself in frigid

water. I think his temperature has always been normal. Maybe it is a

reduced intestinal absorption thing.

Thanks for your thoughts.

Carolyn

> > > > How are most of you maintaining your CR? Is anyone fasting

one-

> > two

> > > > days a week?

> > > >

> > > > Is CRON mostly a solo journey? If you've gotten your

> significant

> > > > other on board, how? (My husband is 6' tall and weighs 130

on a

> > fat

> > > > day - I'm not sure he's a great candidate for CR).

> > > >

> > > > Any advice on improving teen-age diets?

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Assuming, of course, that he absorbs the same amount of calories from food.

Those with gastric bypass and other GI abnormalities may not absorb the same

amount of calories from what they eat as others.

>From: " Rodney " <perspect1111@...>

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>Subject: [ ] Re: Fasting and family

>Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 14:39:15 -0000

>

>Hi 264:

>

>Another issue raised by your post is 'high metabolism'. I have often

>wondered whether this phenomenon really exists. We are all aware of

>people who seem to remain thin no matter how much they eat.

>

>If indeed your husband does have a 'high metabolism' (assuming he

>doesn't use huge amounts of exercise daily to burn off his calories?

>Or immerse himself in frigid water for an hour or two daily (swimming

>laps, perhaps)? Or run around with few clothes on with the

>thermostat set at 60°F?) then the extra energy he burns off must show

>up somewhere.

>

>One would think that most likely the extra energy would be evidenced

>by a higher body temperature. Energy cannot be simply destroyed

>without trace so if he really is burning it then his body must, by

>some means or other, be dissipating it to the environment. A higher

>body temperature is a possibility.

>

>It would be extraordinarily interesting if you were to take your

>husband's temperature to see if it really is above average. Since

>body temperature varies throughout the day - lower in the early

>morning, higher later in the day I believe - it would be good to

>watch it a few times a day if possible, over a few days.

>

>If he doesn't have a higher than average body temperature then one

>would have to ask how his body is dissipating the extra energy he

>believes he is burning off. There are alternative explanations. One

>is that his intestine may be absorbing fewer of the calories than the

>average person.

>

>Just a thought. If you find it convenient the temperature detail

>might help to confirm, or perhaps question, the high metabolism

>issue, depending on what you found.

>

>Rodney.

>

>

> > > > How are most of you maintaining your CR? Is anyone fasting one-

> > two

> > > > days a week?

> > > >

> > > > Is CRON mostly a solo journey? If you've gotten your

>significant

> > > > other on board, how? (My husband is 6' tall and weighs 130 on a

> > fat

> > > > day - I'm not sure he's a great candidate for CR).

> > > >

> > > > Any advice on improving teen-age diets?

>

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