Guest guest Posted September 21, 1999 Report Share Posted September 21, 1999 In a message dated 9/20/99 7:20:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Cbuf1920@... writes: << Subj: Monolaurin I heard that Monolaurin from Coconut oil is supposed to be an antifungal & antiviral & some with CFIDS are trying it. My friend who told me about it is taking 4- 300 mg caps a day. She has been getting it from Cardovascular Research. I think I may try it . I've had good luck with monolaurin. It seems to prevent/reduce the number of acute viral infections I was having and which were become more and more frequent. mike a. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2001 Report Share Posted April 13, 2001 I've been taking Monolaurin about 6 months with no notceable benefit attribted specifically to it. Steve B. Monolaurin > Hello All, > Has anyone used this or done serious research into it? I recall from > past reading that it supposedly was effective against the protein > coat of viruses, allowing other agents to act against the virus. It > was in Dr. Atkins newsletter a few years back. Maybe it would be > useful for some. It is derived from coconut I believe. > Mark and > > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2001 Report Share Posted April 14, 2001 Markand4Him@... wrote: >Hello All, >Has anyone used this or done serious research into it? I recall from past >reading that it supposedly was effective against the protein coat of >viruses, allowing other agents to act against the virus. It was in Dr. >Atkins newsletter a few years back. Maybe it would be useful for some. It >is derived from coconut I believe. >Mark and Hi! I haven't done serious research, but from what I've read (see links below) I have formed the opinion that it's well worth a try. There appears to be a lot of studies suggesting that it has an activity against members of the herpes family of viruses, heliobacter pylori and other bugs. I have tried taking 3.5 tablespoons of coconut oil per day for a couple of months. During this time I have experienced these changes: - Muscle stamina dramatically better for the first time in 2 years. - No herpes outbreaks or mouth sores at all. - Gum health improved. - Less stomach/intestinal problems - More energy If I stop using the oil, my health deteriorates again in a couple of days until I start eating the oil again. The only bad effect is that I get a little more rheumatic problems than usual, similar to what happened while I was on doxycycline for 10 days, but I don't know if this is related to the coconut oil. This is pure speculation, but I actually think that coconut oil/lauric acid/monolaurin also may be killing or inhibiting the growth of mycoplasma. Why? 1) - Mycoplasmas have outer lipid membranes. The antiviral properties of coconut oil is due to a solubilizing the lipids of the lipid enveloped virus much like a detergent. 2) - There is research available showing that Surfactin, a lipopeptide biosurfactant from Bacillus subtilis will kill mycoplasmas by disintegration of the mycoplasma membrane system by a similar detergent effect in cell culture. Nice pictures of exploding mycoplasma available at: http://aem.asm.org/cgi/reprint/63/1/44.pdf (Adobe's PDF-viewer " Acrobat Reader " required) 3) - This article, which I haven't been able to get hold of yet: Fletcher RD, Albers AC, Albertson JN, Kabara JJ. Effects of monoglycerides on mycoplasma pneumoniae growth, in The Pharmacological Effect of Lipids II (JJ Kabara, ed) American Oil Chemists' Society, Champaign IL, 1985, pp.59-63. That's not much to go on. I could be completely wrong. But I would like to learn more about it. I have seen recommendations of 24 grams/day = about 3.5 tablespoons/day ( Enig) of coconut oil for use as an antiviral. The reason is that there has to be a high enough level for it to have an effect on the lipid membrane. At lower concentrations nothings happens. I'm not worried about about the fact that coconut oil is a saturated fat. I believe coconut oil is beneficial rather than detrimental with regard to heart disease. I make sure I also use a mix of other good oils, like extra virgin olive oil etc. More about this here: http://www.apcc.org.sg/special.htm I hope you don't trust me blindly on this, I'm not an expert on heart disease, but as far as I can tell, there are no good studies to support the notion that natural coconut oil (as opposed to hydrogenated coconut oil) causes heart problems. The opposite might very well to be true if infections are important factors in heart disease. I get a much better effect from the coconut oil I make myself compared to what is commercially available here in Sweden. If you make it yourself, you can make sure there is no mold, rot or other problems with the raw material. The oil I buy sometimes smells a little strange. Some manufacturers also use solvents to get more oil from the process. How do I make it myself? I boil finely shredded coconut with water for at least an hour, stir it a couple of times, remove the coconut, give it a squeeze, and then put all of the liquid in a tall jar, let it cool down and put it in the refrigerator. The oil will solidify at the top. I then take the solid oil out and put it in a small cup, melt it and let it solidify again to separate most of the water. Tastes pretty good. I guess I also get Caprylic acid and other possibly beneficial substances from the coconut in this way, so I cannot say with any certainty that the beneficial effects are from monolaurin. The monolaurin I believe is formed in the body from the lauric acid in the coconut oil. ------------ More info about the antiviral properties of coconut oil: http://www.apcc.org.sg/special.htm http://www.westonaprice.org/coconut_oil2.htm http://www.living-foods.com/articles/coconutbenefits.html Surfactin (in cell culture): Appl Environ Microbiol 1997 Jan;63(1):44-9 Antimycoplasma properties and application in cell culture of surfactin, a lipopeptide antibiotic from Bacillus subtilis. Full text article available at: http://aem.asm.org/cgi/reprint/63/1/44.pdf Vollenbroich D, i G, Ozel M, Vater J, Max-Volmer-Institut fur Biophysikalische und Biochemie, Fachgebiet Biochemie und Molekulare Biologie, Technische Universitat Berlin, Germany. Best wishes, - Jan _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2001 Report Share Posted April 14, 2001 Hi Jan, That was good thiking to make your own coconut oil! I know some PWA's say it is very helpful to them. I was just wondering if eating fresh raw coconut every day might be just as beneficial, or does the heating process make some of the phytonutrients more available? Also can't resist asking if you've ever tried making real coconut soap? I love it but it's so hard to find. I guess I also get Caprylic acid and other possibly beneficial substances from the coconut in this way, so I cannot say with any certainty that the beneficial effects are from monolaurin. The monolaurin I believe is formed in the body from the lauric acid in the coconut oil. ------------ More info about the antiviral properties of coconut oil: http://www.apcc.org.sg/special.htm http://www.westonaprice.org/coconut_oil2.htm http://www.living-foods.com/articles/coconutbenefits.html Surfactin (in cell culture): Appl Environ Microbiol 1997 Jan;63(1):44-9 Antimycoplasma properties and application in cell culture of surfactin, a lipopeptide antibiotic from Bacillus subtilis. Full text article available at: http://aem.asm.org/cgi/reprint/63/1/44.pdf Vollenbroich D, i G, Ozel M, Vater J, Max-Volmer-Institut fur Biophysikalische und Biochemie, Fachgebiet Biochemie und Molekulare Biologie, Technische Universitat Berlin, Germany. Best wishes, - Jan _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2001 Report Share Posted April 14, 2001 Hey Jan, Thank you for a very thorough post!!! I am a big fresh coconut aficionado myself and as always it is very exciting to me to meet another person who thinks highly about the benefits of coconut oil… Here is a new study for you where coconut oil is mentioned as elevating apolipoprotein A-1 and the potential of the later in preventing Alzheimer's. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases\2001\04\010403071549.htm Thank you again, Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2001 Report Share Posted April 15, 2001 DuRant <faerytails@...> wrote >That was good thiking to make your own coconut oil! I know some PWA's say >it is very helpful to them. I was just wondering if eating fresh raw >coconut every day might be just as beneficial, Hi , I guess fresh coconut could be even better, but it does contain a lot of arginine compared to lysine. A high arginine to lysine ratio in the diet can stimulate herpes outbreaks: http://www.herpes.com/Nutrition.shtml I'm not sure about what parts of the body that can be affected efficiently by the antiviral properties of monolaurin. If the stimulating effect from arginine is stronger in some places, I guess the net result for example could be that you kill off all herpes in the intestine but stimulate viral replication in the rest of the body. I'm just speculating but until I know more I feel it is safer to use the oil. >or does the heating process make some of the phytonutrients more available? I don't know. I boil it because it makes it easier to separate the oil. It even works with desiccated coconut. It's a good thing that coconut oil is very stable. >Also can't resist asking if you've ever tried making real coconut soap? Soap? Nope. Best, - Jan _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2001 Report Share Posted April 15, 2001 ben_nur@... wrote: >Here is a new study for you where coconut oil is mentioned as elevating >apolipoprotein A-1 and the potential of the later in preventing >Alzheimer's. >http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases\2001\04\010403071549.htm Interesting. Thank you. They also mention that this protein helps in preventing coronary heart disease by clearing cholesterol throughout the body. Do you notice any health benefits or other effects from the oil or the fresh coconut? Best, - Jan _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2001 Report Share Posted April 15, 2001 In a message dated 4/15/01 8:13:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ben_nur@... writes: > While it is true that arginine aggravates herpes outbreaks, coconut > So what's the deal, in order to do this coconut experiment, buying fresh coconuts and attempting to eat the whole thing is the best way to do it? Thing is, I hate coconut but perhaps if my health depends on it I can learn to like it, I dunno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2001 Report Share Posted April 15, 2001 Dear Jan, In a reply to one of 's questions (coconut oil vs. fresh coconut meat) you said the following: " I guess fresh coconut could be even better, but it does contain a lot of arginine compared to lysine. A high arginine to lysine ratio in the diet can stimulate herpes outbreaks " While it is true that arginine aggravates herpes outbreaks, coconut meat has neither. Here is a list of the nutritional contents of coconut as it appears in the official database of the USDA (US Department of Agriculture) assembled by the well-known well-esteemed Dr. Dukes (http://www.ars-grin.gov/duke/plants.html). Since this database is not so user friendly I opted to quote it here. Moreover, the original story about the two young men with AIDS who went to Surinam (to what they thought was going to be their last vacation in life)and ate ½ a coconut a day as do the natives do. They achieved an unbelievable remission, which was validated by a viral-load test back in the States. Their story got a big publicity on the website called " Keep Hope Alive " . Finally, on a personal note: my husband suffers from herpes labialise. He used to take prophylactic Valtrex daily but since he started to eat fresh coconuts it reduced the dose that he has to take substantially. Gail Dr. Duke's Phytochemical and Ethnobotanical Databases Cocos nucifera L. -- Coconut, Coconut Palm, Cocotero (Sp.), Copra, Kokospalme (Ger.), Nariyal; 35,000 ppm in Hull Husk; Phytochemical Database, USDA - ARS - NGRL, Beltsville Agricultural Research Center, Beltsville, land Sun Apr 15 19:31:46 EDT 2001 Dr. Duke's Phytochemical and Ethnobotanical Databases Chemicals in: Cocos nucifera L. (Arecaceae) -- Coconut, Coconut Palm, Cocotero (Sp.), Copra, Kokospalme (Ger.), Nariyal Chemicals 1,3-DIPHENYLUREA? Seed: DUKE1992A ACETOSYRINGONE Leaf: DUKE1992A ACETOVANILLONE Leaf: DUKE1992A ALPHA-TOCOPHEROL Oil 18 ppm; DUKE1992A ALUMINUM Seed 7.2 ppm; DUKE1992A ANTIMONY Seed 0.1 ppm; DUKE1992A ARSENIC Seed 0.02 ppm; DUKE1992A ASCORBIC-ACID Seed 20 - 88 ppm CRC ASH Seed 9,000 - 22,000 ppm DUKE1992A BARIUM Seed 0.1 ppm; DUKE1992A BORON Seed 3 - 5.2 ppm DUKE1992A BROMINE Seed 4 ppm; DUKE1992A CADMIUM Seed 0.03 ppm; DUKE1992A CALCIUM Seed 71 - 476 ppm DUKE1992A CALCIUM-OXIDE Leaf 2,700 ppm; DUKE1992A CAPRIC-ACID Seed 2,628 - 69,743 ppm DUKE1992A CAPROIC-ACID Seed 117 - 3,595 ppm DUKE1992A CAPRYLIC-ACID Seed 3,154 - 68,305 ppm DUKE1992A CARBOHYDRATES Seed 94,000 - 331,000 ppm DUKE1992A CELLULOSE Hull Husk 266,000 ppm; DUKE1992A CESIUM Seed 0.1 ppm; DUKE1992A CHLORINE Seed 1,007 ppm; DUKE1992A CHROMIUM Seed 0.2 ppm; DUKE1992A CITRIC-ACID Seed: DUKE1992A COBALT Seed 0.2 ppm; DUKE1992A COPPER Seed 3.2 - 33 ppm DUKE1992A D-GALACTOSE Seed: DUKE1992A D-GALACTURONIC-ACID Seed: DUKE1992A EUROPIUM Seed 0.1 ppm; DUKE1992A FAT Seed 58,400 - 719,000 ppm DUKE1992A FERULIC-ACID Leaf: DUKE1992A FIBER Seed 30,000 - 115,000 ppm DUKE1992A FLUORINE Seed 2.7 ppm; DUKE1992A FRUCTOSE Resin, Exudate, Sap 2,100 ppm; DUKE1992A GABA Seed: DUKE1992A GALACTOMANNAN Seed 16,000 ppm; DUKE1992A GAMMA-TOCOPHEROL Oil: DUKE1992A GLUCOSE Resin, Exudate, Sap 2,400 ppm; DUKE1992A GOLD Plant: DUKE1992A INOSITOL Resin, Exudate, Sap 690 ppm; DUKE1992A IODINE Seed 0.3 ppm; DUKE1992A IRON Seed 23 - 33 ppm DUKE1992A KILOCALORIES Seed 2,960 - 7,050 /kg DUKE1992A L-RHAMNOSE Seed: DUKE1992A LANTHANUM Seed 0.03 ppm; DUKE1992A LAURIC-ACID Seed 25,754 - 368,847 ppm DUKE1992A LEAD Seed 0.7 ppm; DUKE1992A LIGNIN Hull Husk 294,000 ppm; DUKE1992A LINOLEIC-ACID Seed 584 - 18,694 ppm DUKE1992A LUTETIUM Seed 0.01 ppm; DUKE1992A MAGNESIUM Seed 770 ppm; DUKE1992A MAGNESIUM-OXIDE Leaf 5,700 ppm; DUKE1992A MALIC-ACID Seed: DUKE1992A MANGANESE Seed 9 - 21 ppm DUKE1992A MANNAN Seed: DUKE1992A MERCURY Seed 0.1 ppm; DUKE1992A MESO-INOSITOL Endosperm 100 ppm; DUKE1992A METHOXYL Hull Husk 56,000 ppm; DUKE1992A MOLYBDENUM Seed 0.03 ppm; DUKE1992A MYRISTIC-ACID Seed 7,650 - 133,015 ppm DUKE1992A NIACIN Seed 5 - 10 ppm DUKE1992A NICKEL Seed 2.1 ppm; DUKE1992A NITROGEN Hull Husk 1,100 ppm; DUKE1992A OLEIC-ACID Seed 2,920 - 58,958 ppm DUKE1992A P-COUMARIC-ACID Leaf: DUKE1992A P-HYDROXY-BENZOIC-ACID Leaf: DUKE1992A PALMITIC-ACID Seed 4,380 - 75,495 ppm DUKE1992A PECTIN Seed: DUKE1992A PENTOSANS Hull Husk 277,000 ppm; DUKE1992A PHOSPHORUS Seed 830 - 2,400 ppm DUKE1992A PHOSPHORUS-OXIDE-(P2O5) Leaf 1,700 ppm; DUKE1992A PHYTOSTEROLS Seed: DUKE1992A POTASSIUM Seed 2,560 - 11,491 ppm DUKE1992A POTASSIUM-OXIDE-(K20) Leaf 52,300 ppm; DUKE1992A PROTEIN Seed 32,000 - 77,000 ppm DUKE1992A QUINIC-ACID Seed: DUKE1992A RAFFINOSE Resin, Exudate, Sap 900 ppm; DUKE1992A RIBOFLAVIN Seed 0.2 - 0.7 ppm DUKE1992A RUBIDIUM Seed 16 ppm; DUKE1992A SAMARIUM Seed 0.04 ppm; DUKE1992A SCANDIUM Seed 0.002 ppm; DUKE1992A SCYLLITOL Endosperm 500 ppm; DUKE1992A Leaf 3,200 ppm; DUKE1992A SELENIUM Seed 0.02 ppm; DUKE1992A SHIKIMIC-ACID Seed: DUKE1992A SILICON Seed 370 ppm; DUKE1992A SODIUM Seed 145 - 626 ppm DUKE1992A SORBITOL Endosperm 15,000 ppm; DUKE1992A SQUALENE Seed: DUKE1992A STEARIC-ACID Seed 584 - 23,008 ppm DUKE1992A STRONTIUM Seed 2.8 ppm; DUKE1992A SUCCINIC-ACID Seed: DUKE1992A SUCROSE Resin, Exudate, Sap 134,000 ppm; DUKE1992A SULFUR Seed 440 - 1,370 ppm DUKE1992A SYRINGALDEHYDE Leaf: DUKE1992A SYRINGIC-ACID Leaf: DUKE1992A TANTALUM Plant: DUKE1992A THIAMIN Seed 0.3 - 1 ppm DUKE1992A THORIUM Plant: DUKE1992A TIN Seed 1.5 ppm; DUKE1992A TITANIUM Seed 5.6 ppm; DUKE1992A TRIDECANOIC-ACID Seed: DUKE1992A TUNGSTEN Seed 0.3 ppm; DUKE1992A UNDECANOIC-ACID Seed: DUKE1992A URONIC-ANHYDRIDES Hull Husk 35,000 ppm; DUKE1992A VANADIUM Seed 0.004 ppm; DUKE1992A VANILLIC-ACID Leaf: DUKE1992A VANILLIN Leaf: DUKE1992A VIT-E Seed 2 ppm; DUKE1992A WATER Hull Husk 80,000 ppm; DUKE1992A Leaf 84,500 ppm; DUKE1992A Seed 363,000 - 546,000 ppm DUKE1992A YTTERBIUM Seed 0.1 ppm; DUKE1992A ZINC Seed 13 - 17 ppm DUKE1992A ppm = parts per million tr = trace Please send questions and comments to: A. 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Guest guest Posted April 16, 2001 Report Share Posted April 16, 2001 Dear Gail, I trusted the arginine content in coconut reported at www.herpes.com/nutrition.html was correct: Coconut, shredded 80 grams Lysine:118mg Arginine:437mg Ratio-Lys/Arg:0.270 In your message, you said: " While it is true that arginine aggravates herpes outbreaks, coconut meat has neither. Here is a list of the nutritional contents of coconut as it appears in the official database of the USDA... [listing of chemicals in coconut with no mention of arginine] " At first I thought I made a mistake, but since most nuts contains a lot of arginine, I searched the USDA Nutrient Database for Standard Reference at http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/cgi-bin/nut_search.pl And the results for 100 grams of the edible portion of " Nuts, coconut meat, raw " was: Lysine: 0.147 g Arginine: 0.546 g which is similar to the figures at www.herpes.com. I don't know why it didn't appear in Dr. Dukes database. It's a great resource, and I normally would tend to trust it more than a site like the herpes website, but in this case I think there is a problem with missing data in the database. I don't know if the arginine content is a problem, it might not be and I hope it's not, because I like fresh coconut and it is much easier to eat fresh coconut or coconut milk than homemade coconut oil. I remember reading somewhere, perhaps at the Keep Hope Alive website, that some brands of coconut milk works fine and others don't. Perhaps the amount of oil varies a lot depending on the manufacturing process or if they use young or ripe coconuts? Best wishes, - Jan _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2001 Report Share Posted April 17, 2001 Jan, I have not done any blood test since I started to eat coconuts on a daily basis so all of what I am going to say is based on my observation. I started to eat coconuts continuously at the end of last year for about 4 months in a row. At that time I also started to add Glucotize (lipoic acid) and Co-Q10 to my daily routine. During that period there was a substantial change for the better in my health and energy. Somehow I attributed all of it mostly to Glucotize and since dealing with raw coconuts takes some preparations (not speaking about carrying them from the market) I slacked to a point that to save efforts I stopped eating them myself and prepared only for my husband. Then we both decided that it was time to drop it altogether and see what happens. It was very convenient to do so since at that time we have been very busy purchasing a condo and an office- both needed remodeling (doing everything ourselves except the labor itself). While I still feel well, some old problems like sore tongue and excessive mucus reappeared. At the end of last week I tried to figure out what did I change (totally forgot coconuts) and realized that… I have not eaten coconuts since Jan. this year. It was an unbelievable coincident to find your post at the very same day that I decided to renew my coconut eating (the article from the news that I posted for you also helped)!!! Last Friday I went back to my city's Chinatown Market (where I buy my coconuts) and it was impossible to find the coconuts that we usually buy. You see, coconuts that reach maturation and are eaten immediately look inside very differently than the ones that reached maturation a year before and were left in the tree. The very young coconuts have soft and thinner flash that one can scoop out of the shell with tablespoon. They contain substantially more water and less of the distinctive coconut aroma that we all know and which I love. But, if you let them stand for several months, the flash is thickened, hardened, and gets more of the aroma while the amount of water dwindles. The older are the ones from which grated coconut is prepared and oil is extracted. One of the vendors explained to me that last Friday- Good Friday, people who came here from Philippines (big minority in my city) prepare coconut oil for some religious use, which was why I couldn't find the older ones that I love. Nonetheless, I bought few young ones and started my coconut " retest " . Generally speaking, if all possible, it is a good idea to stop something that you suspect helps you and then restart it to see what happens even though we all not always do it; with coconuts it was easy to stop because, as I said, it takes some time and dedication. So far I am in the forth day of the retest and so far so good. Though the real test will be in June when we start to remodel the condo (so far we did the office only). Regards, Gail > Interesting. Thank you. They also mention that this protein helps in > preventing coronary heart disease by clearing cholesterol throughout the > body. > > Do you notice any health benefits or other effects from the oil or the fresh > coconut? > > Best, > > - Jan > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ___ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 I want to say a few things about monolaurin and coconut oil. Some people have the idea that monolaurin (Lauricidin) is more effective than coconut oil in fighting infections. I disagree. Monolaurin has demonstrated the strongest " overall " anti-microbial effect, but it is not the most effective for every bacteria, virus or fungus. In some cases the other monoglycerides (monocaprin, monocaprylin, monomyistin, etc.) or individual fatty acids (lauric, capric, caprylic, myistric, etc.) are more effective. Coconut oil contains 10 different fatty acids, most of which possess anti-microbial properties. Each of them are also converted into potent anti-microbial monoglycerides. Therefore you have nearly 20 anti-microbial substances working synergistically together to fight off infection. This combination appears to be better than monolaurin alone, as evidenced by Dr. Dayrit's HIV studies which showed that coconut oil was more effective than monolaurin in treating this condition. Don't get me wrong. Monolaurin is good, but it is not necessarily any better than pure coconut oil. Besides, coconut is a lot cheaper and easier to use. Bruce Fife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 You can tell this is a coconut oil forum and the push is for coconut oil...when you say it's a lot cheaper and easier to use ;-) Taking a pill or a scoop of powder/granules is a heck of a lot easier to use, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's actually cheaper compared to the amount of coconut oil or coconut needed. It for sure can't be THAT much more expensive. But if you read why I posted about monolaurin, it had to do with(if I remember correctly) the person not caring to take so much coconut oil or didn't care to take it at all and/or that it didn't seem to be helping. Is this the study you're referring to?: http://www.ginoco.com/research_dayrit.php I don't see anything that says coconut oil was more effective. They even use the word " anecdotal " . Only 15 test subjects, etc. I would agree if you'd said neither is necessarily better than the other. They both have their positives and negatives. There are testimonials out there for both. I haven't even tried monlolaurin, but plan to. I still take my coconut oil ;-) Monolaurin I want to say a few things about monolaurin and coconut oil. Some people have the idea that monolaurin (Lauricidin) is more effective than coconut oil in fighting infections. I disagree. Monolaurin has demonstrated the strongest " overall " anti-microbial effect, but it is not the most effective for every bacteria, virus or fungus. In some cases the other monoglycerides (monocaprin, monocaprylin, monomyistin, etc.) or individual fatty acids (lauric, capric, caprylic, myistric, etc.) are more effective. Coconut oil contains 10 different fatty acids, most of which possess anti-microbial properties. Each of them are also converted into potent anti-microbial monoglycerides. Therefore you have nearly 20 anti-microbial substances working synergistically together to fight off infection. This combination appears to be better than monolaurin alone, as evidenced by Dr. Dayrit's HIV studies which showed that coconut oil was more effective than monolaurin in treating this condition. Don't get me wrong. Monolaurin is good, but it is not necessarily any better than pure coconut oil. Besides, coconut is a lot cheaper and easier to use. Bruce Fife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Has anybody worked with monolaurin? Did it do well? Lucinda Bulk Herbs, Spices, Teas, Essential oils www.glenbrookfarm.com/herbs _____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 no- but you have my interest - what would you use this coconut extract for? Willow --- Glenbrook Farm <jenkins@...> wrote: > Has anybody worked with monolaurin? > > Did it do well? > > > > Lucinda > > > Bulk Herbs, Spices, Teas, Essential oils > www.glenbrookfarm.com/herbs > > _____ > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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