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As the veterans on the list know, I am married to a non-CRONIE. My husband

also could stand to lose a few pounds.

Although Satietrol is very effective for him (it abates his hunger for up to

8 hours sometimes), for some reason he chose to ask the doctor for help in

the form of medication to lose weight. (I find it ironic that Satietrol

works so well for him and it does nothing for me afa appetite control).

The Doc gave him Wellbutrin (a common antidepressant) to lose weight. It

seems that people lose their appetite and lose weight when they take

Wellbutrin. (Which makes me wonder why more obese people don't opt for

that instead of surgery and other far more dangerous alternatives).

Sure enough, last night at dinner time in the Skelton household, he was

disinterested in eating (an anomaly for sure. Of course, one day does not

an experiment make. So I'll report back but so far it's encouraging.

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on Welbutrin (bupropion)

Altered Appetite and Weight: A weight loss of greater than 5 pounds occurred in

28% of patients receiving bupropion. This incidence is approximately double that

seen in comparable patients treated with tricyclics or placebo. Furthermore,

while 34.5% of patients receiving tricyclic antidepressants gained weight, only

9.4% of patients treated with bupropion did. Consequently, if weight loss is a

major presenting sign of a patient's depressive illness, the anorectic and/or

weight reducing potential of bupropion should be considered.

It can occasioanlly also cause weight gain.

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Subject: [ ] Is this the CR pill?

As the veterans on the list know, I am married to a non-CRONIE. My husband

also could stand to lose a few pounds.

Although Satietrol is very effective for him (it abates his hunger for up to

8 hours sometimes), for some reason he chose to ask the doctor for help in

the form of medication to lose weight. (I find it ironic that Satietrol

works so well for him and it does nothing for me afa appetite control).

The Doc gave him Wellbutrin (a common antidepressant) to lose weight. It

seems that people lose their appetite and lose weight when they take

Wellbutrin. (Which makes me wonder why more obese people don't opt for

that instead of surgery and other far more dangerous alternatives).

Sure enough, last night at dinner time in the Skelton household, he was

disinterested in eating (an anomaly for sure. Of course, one day does not

an experiment make. So I'll report back but so far it's encouraging.

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It does amaze me how Satietrol works for some. I didn't notice any help

when I tried it. Perhaps it works better for men than women? Anyone

else here try it?

I am rooting for your husband in all his efforts. Re: meds for

suppressing appetite... one woman told me that the effects wear off over

a few months. Another woman told me that although the best effects from

meds wear off after 5 mos, it still worked a LITTLE bit so that she

could maintain her weight loss. YMMV. Probably your husband isn't

morbidly obsese & he's his own experiment. Morbid obesity is chronic

requires long term help.

According to : http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/guidelines/obesity/prctgd_c.pdf

" Weight Loss Surgery should be reserved for patients in whome other

methods have failed... " I assume this means that patients should

have already tried medication therapy. Statistically, weight loss

surgery has much more success than any other method at keeping the

weight off for long term.

Francesca Skelton wrote:

>As the veterans on the list know, I am married to a non-CRONIE. My husband

also could stand to lose a few pounds.

>

>Although Satietrol is very effective for him (it abates his hunger for up to 8

hours sometimes), for some reason he chose to ask the doctor for help in the

form of medication to lose weight. (I find it ironic that Satietrol works so

well for him and it does nothing for me afa appetite control).

>

>The Doc gave him Wellbutrin (a common antidepressant) to lose weight. It seems

that people lose their appetite and lose weight when they take Wellbutrin.

(Which makes me wonder why more obese people don't opt for that instead of

surgery and other far more dangerous alternatives).

>

>Sure enough, last night at dinner time in the Skelton household, he was

disinterested in eating (an anomaly for sure. Of course, one day does not an

experiment make. So I'll report back but so far it's encouraging.

>

>

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I have not tried Satietrol.

The most profound appetitie suppression I noted was immediately after

starting low dose (250 mg QAM) metformin. This effect only lasted about 2

weeks. Metformin has been used at higher doses as an appetite suppressant

for weight control by some clinics with success.

Drinking a lot of water will sometimes do the trick. Sometimes raw

vegetables. Sometimes exercise.

I've tried hoodia, also, although just how real this stuff may be is

unclear. Sometimes it does appear to work- but it's unclear to me how much

of the effect may be placebo effect.

>From: apricot85 <apricot85@...>

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>

>Subject: Re: [ ] Is this the CR pill?

>Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 08:02:28 -0400

>

>It does amaze me how Satietrol works for some. I didn't notice any help

>when I tried it. Perhaps it works better for men than women? Anyone

>else here try it?

>

>I am rooting for your husband in all his efforts. Re: meds for

>suppressing appetite... one woman told me that the effects wear off over

>a few months. Another woman told me that although the best effects from

>meds wear off after 5 mos, it still worked a LITTLE bit so that she

>could maintain her weight loss. YMMV. Probably your husband isn't

>morbidly obsese & he's his own experiment. Morbid obesity is chronic

>requires long term help.

>

>According to : http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/guidelines/obesity/prctgd_c.pdf

> " Weight Loss Surgery should be reserved for patients in whome other

>methods have failed... " I assume this means that patients should

>have already tried medication therapy. Statistically, weight loss

>surgery has much more success than any other method at keeping the

>weight off for long term.

>

>

>Francesca Skelton wrote:

>

> >As the veterans on the list know, I am married to a non-CRONIE. My

>husband also could stand to lose a few pounds.

> >

> >Although Satietrol is very effective for him (it abates his hunger for up

>to 8 hours sometimes), for some reason he chose to ask the doctor for help

>in the form of medication to lose weight. (I find it ironic that Satietrol

>works so well for him and it does nothing for me afa appetite control).

> >

> >The Doc gave him Wellbutrin (a common antidepressant) to lose weight. It

>seems that people lose their appetite and lose weight when they take

>Wellbutrin. (Which makes me wonder why more obese people don't opt for

>that instead of surgery and other far more dangerous alternatives).

> >

> >Sure enough, last night at dinner time in the Skelton household, he was

>disinterested in eating (an anomaly for sure. Of course, one day does not

>an experiment make. So I'll report back but so far it's encouraging.

> >

> >

>

>

>

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Chris: My husband was once given metformin for weight control. As you said

below, the suppressant effect was temporary. It was several years ago and I

don't remember a large weight drop. For some reason this time the physician

preferred Wellbutrin. Is Wellbutrin now the pill of choice?

on 5/15/2004 8:02 AM, Dowling at dowlic@... wrote:

> The most profound appetitie suppression I noted was immediately after

> starting low dose (250 mg QAM) metformin. This effect only lasted about 2

> weeks. Metformin has been used at higher doses as an appetite suppressant

> for weight control by some clinics with success.

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I'm not in the weight control biz, Francesca, so I'm not sure which is the

current drug of choice for appetite suppression. Primary appetite

suppressants include Didrex, Tenuate, Sanorex, Mazanor, Adipex-P and

Meridia. Welbutrin was originally used as an anti-depressant, but has been

found to have other applications, such as appetite suppression and as an

smoking-cessation aid.

>From: Francesca Skelton <fskelton@...>

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>Subject: Re: [ ] Is this the CR pill?

>Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 08:18:23 -0400

>

>Chris: My husband was once given metformin for weight control. As you said

>below, the suppressant effect was temporary. It was several years ago and

>I

>don't remember a large weight drop. For some reason this time the physician

>preferred Wellbutrin. Is Wellbutrin now the pill of choice?

>

>

>on 5/15/2004 8:02 AM, Dowling at dowlic@... wrote:

>

> > The most profound appetitie suppression I noted was immediately after

> > starting low dose (250 mg QAM) metformin. This effect only lasted about

>2

>

>weeks. Metformin has been used at higher doses as an appetite suppressant

> > for weight control by some clinics with success.

>

Didrex, Tenuate, Sanorex, Mazanor, Adipex-P and Meridia.

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I'm not in the weight loss biz, but Welbutrin was originally used as

an anti-depressant, IIRC. It's also frequently used as a smoking

cessation aid. As well as appetite suppression, other side effects

include occasional increased libido. Meridia and other drugs are,

AFAIK, the front line appetite suppressants.

>

> > The most profound appetitie suppression I noted was immediately

after

> > starting low dose (250 mg QAM) metformin. This effect only

lasted about 2

> > weeks. Metformin has been used at higher doses as an appetite

suppressant

> > for weight control by some clinics with success.

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I only have my personal experience -- I've been on Wellbutrin XL (300

mg. daily) for about 6 months now. At first there was a decrease in

appetite as well as a burst of energy and a reduction in the need for

sleep. It only lasted about 2 weeks, at the most, and then everything

returned to normal.

I know some other people on Wellbutrin who have experienced a

decrease in appetite, but I don't know any who lost a significant

amount of weight as a result.

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2 weeks appears to be the duration of the appetite suppression effect of

both metformin for me, and Wellbutrin for you. Perhaps cycling from one to

the other every couple of weeks might be effective over the long term?

>From: " grey_gardens4444 " <GreyGardens4444@...>

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>Subject: [ ] Re: Is this the CR pill?

>Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 15:09:18 -0000

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>I only have my personal experience -- I've been on Wellbutrin XL (300

>mg. daily) for about 6 months now. At first there was a decrease in

>appetite as well as a burst of energy and a reduction in the need for

>sleep. It only lasted about 2 weeks, at the most, and then everything

>returned to normal.

>

>I know some other people on Wellbutrin who have experienced a

>decrease in appetite, but I don't know any who lost a significant

>amount of weight as a result.

>

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