Guest guest Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 Body voltage is about comparing your voltage to ground, so if you unplug it, you're no longer measuring body voltage anymore. When you say 2.10, is the unit volts? 2.10 Volts = 2100 millivolts which is high, but actually pretty normal for many homes. Building Biology recommends <10 millivolts. See Building Biology SBM 2008 standards: http://hbelc.org/pdf/standards/sbm2008.pdf > > Hi all! > > Ijust got my body voltage meter in the mail from LESSEMF--their basic one that says ACV on the front.....when I stuck the 3prong in the grounding socket the voltage went up to 2.10 or something....I am holding a metal handhold attached to a wire....But after I unplugged the grounding aspect and just walked around with it, it hardly varied or went over .o2 at all! Just now it did go up to .04 in front of the computer......I heard that 0-10 is ideal so maybe I should be glad! > > I have sometimes suspected if I have too little body voltage as much of my back and neck muscles have turned to scar tissue and impinges on alot of nerves... > > anyone else have any thought on this and/or how I could further use this meter? > > Thanks! > > Debbie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 > I have sometimes suspected if I have too little body voltage as much of my back and neck muscles have turned to scar tissue and impinges on alot of nerves... My holistic MD found that an old scar on my head was causing me a problem by blocking the energy flow as it related to the meridian that went across that spot. He injected it with, I believe, Procaine and Ozone to fix this. I experienced a slight increase in energy from that procedure. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 We tried with my son's multimeter w an alligator clip in a ceramic pot to a copper rod, Set on 200 volts AC range. We both measured 1 near the window 1/2 mile from a tower. Does that mean 100 or 1000? Went to a 2 near the tv plugged in not on. Went in front of the computer grounded it to a metal box got a 2. Kathy From: emraware <emraware@...> Subject: Re: Body Voltage Meter Date: Friday, September 16, 2011, 9:08 PM  Body voltage is about comparing your voltage to ground, so if you unplug it, you're no longer measuring body voltage anymore. When you say 2.10, is the unit volts? 2.10 Volts = 2100 millivolts which is high, but actually pretty normal for many homes. Building Biology recommends <10 millivolts. See Building Biology SBM 2008 standards: http://hbelc.org/pdf/standards/sbm2008.pdf > > Hi all! > > Ijust got my body voltage meter in the mail from LESSEMF--their basic one that says ACV on the front.....when I stuck the 3prong in the grounding socket the voltage went up to 2.10 or something....I am holding a metal handhold attached to a wire....But after I unplugged the grounding aspect and just walked around with it, it hardly varied or went over .o2 at all! Just now it did go up to .04 in front of the computer......I heard that 0-10 is ideal so maybe I should be glad! > > I have sometimes suspected if I have too little body voltage as much of my back and neck muscles have turned to scar tissue and impinges on alot of nerves... > > anyone else have any thought on this and/or how I could further use this meter? > > Thanks! > > Debbie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 Sorry, I got .1 by a plugged in TV not on. Had it set at lowest 200 v ac 0 in front of the window w Gila smoke window tint. 0 in front of a window w no tint. ..4 by a lamp turned on. to 0 when moved out of range. Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 Hi Kathy, > We tried with my son's multimeter w an alligator clip in a ceramic pot to a copper rod, > Set on 200 volts AC range. > If the meter has a lower setting, you'll get better results set to 2 V AC, as you shouldn't get any higher readings unless right under or next to high voltage lines. Or holding a power cord in your hand. That way you can be more accurate in measuring milliVolts AC. > We both measured 1 near the window 1/2 mile from a tower. > It is not the tower you can measure with this method, only the electric fields from AC power. > Does that mean 100 or 1000? Neither. Just 1 V AC If the meter doesn't show any fractions of one volt, than you'll get rounding distortion. But the readings you've got, sound about right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 >> We tried with my son's multimeter w an alligator clip in a ceramic pot to >> a copper rod, >> Set on 200 volts AC range. >> > If the meter has a lower setting, you'll get better results set to 2 V > AC, as you shouldn't get any higher readings unless right under or next > to high voltage lines. Or holding a power cord in your hand. That way > you can be more accurate in measuring milliVolts AC. is absolutely correct. When set on 2V range, this meter has a resolution of .001 V (=1 mV). But please make sure to connect to a proper ground. Ground does not mean any old soil. It means connecting electrically to a large reservoir of electrons... such as the plant Earth. Emil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 Let me respond to this statement below. This is only true and safe if there is NO stray current in the ground. Anyone on city water will have current in the ground, as well as in their water supply. The planter technique was designed to provide a safer way in cases where there IS a high amt of stray voltage in the ground. The soil has to be well draining soil, and is to be kept moist at all times. Ideally, the ceramic planter used should hold 3-5 gallons of soil; in other words, a pretty large sized pot. Insisting that the ONLY way to properly ground the rod/body, using only the rod plugged into the ground, is potentially dangerous. Think: should there be stray voltage in the ground - how well do you' think that would act as a grounding system? In addition to this; anyone who has done the research on how utility companies are (by law) allowed to run the stray current into the ground is very familiar with how common " stray voltage " in the ground really is. Lizzie " But please make sure to connect to a proper ground. Ground does not mean any old soil. It means connecting electrically to a large reservoir of electrons... such as the plant Earth. " From: lessemf@... Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 11:41:06 -0400 Subject: Re: Re: Body Voltage Meter >> We tried with my son's multimeter w an alligator clip in a ceramic pot to >> a copper rod, >> Set on 200 volts AC range. >> > If the meter has a lower setting, you'll get better results set to 2 V > AC, as you shouldn't get any higher readings unless right under or next > to high voltage lines. Or holding a power cord in your hand. That way > you can be more accurate in measuring milliVolts AC. is absolutely correct. When set on 2V range, this meter has a resolution of .001 V (=1 mV). But please make sure to connect to a proper ground. Ground does not mean any old soil. It means connecting electrically to a large reservoir of electrons... such as the plant Earth. Emil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 Lizzie, I am in the process of reading up on grounding. I do want to avoid stray current so the Planter Method appeals to me. I would, though, like to understand how it works. Is this method one that allows the " good " electrons from the earth flow up through the bottom of the ceramic material and through moist, conductive soil while the stray current is blocked by the insulating properties of the ceramic? Do you think it would be any problem to run more than one grounding rod into the same pot? Is one type of soil better than another? Can you recommend something to read on this? Thanks, Jim > > > Let me respond to this statement below. This is only true and safe if there > is NO stray current in the ground. Anyone on city water will have current > in the ground, as well as in their water supply. > The planter technique was > designed to provide a safer way in cases where there IS a high amt of stray voltage > in the ground. > The soil has to be well draining soil, and is to be kept > moist at all times. Ideally, the ceramic planter used should hold 3-5 > gallons of soil; in other words, a pretty large sized pot. > Insisting that the ONLY way to properly ground the rod/body, using > only the rod plugged into the ground, is potentially dangerous. > Think: should there be stray voltage in the ground - how well do you' think > that would act as a grounding system? In addition to this; anyone who has done the research > on how utility companies are (by law) allowed to run the stray current into > the ground is very familiar with how common " stray voltage " in the ground > really is. > > Lizzie > > " But please make sure to connect to a proper ground. Ground does not mean any > old soil. It means connecting electrically to a large reservoir of > electrons... such as the plant Earth. " > > > > > > > > From: lessemf@... > Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 11:41:06 -0400 > Subject: Re: Re: Body Voltage Meter > > > > > > > >> We tried with my son's multimeter w an alligator clip in a ceramic pot to > >> a copper rod, > >> Set on 200 volts AC range. > >> > > If the meter has a lower setting, you'll get better results set to 2 V > > AC, as you shouldn't get any higher readings unless right under or next > > to high voltage lines. Or holding a power cord in your hand. That way > > you can be more accurate in measuring milliVolts AC. > > is absolutely correct. When set on 2V range, this meter has a > resolution of .001 V (=1 mV). > > But please make sure to connect to a proper ground. Ground does not mean any > old soil. It means connecting electrically to a large reservoir of > electrons... such as the plant Earth. > > Emil > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 Hi Jim, All good questions. Here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to answer as many as I can. I will start by telling you (and anyone else who is interested) how I came about this fascinating information. There is a healer in Ireland who has done a ton of research in this area of emf's, in geopathic stress, and many other related areas. He is very much into measuring with equipt, various meters. I will dig up his website and you can read some of his stuff so you can get an idea of what this guy is about. HIs name is Ciaron, and his information has proven to be invaluable to me- in many ways. Ciaran said the soil mix should drain well, not be too sandy, nor too much clay. He actually sent me detailed instructions on this, which i will see if I can dig up. The instructions for the soil mix are quite detailed. The above is what you want in the soil mixture. Much information was hand written, and if memory serves me right, we had many back and forth emails to make sure I understood how to do this and gain the best benefits. *I will tell you this: my teen daughter is like a walking meter! She picks up: stray voltage, any changes in wiring, wifi, cell phones, cordless phones, dirty electricity from various sources, including current in the water supply. The first time she used Ciaran's system of bed grounding, she said: " I can feel a huge difference, this is GOOD, really good! " She woke up the next morning and said she slept SOO much better. I'm thinking he states to use ceramic and not plastic because plastic contains petroleum products. Here is a guideline: 1) The bed should ideally be a wooden frame. (no metal as bed springs/frame tend to act as antennas) 2) A grounding sheet should be placed UNDER the bed sheet. I use www.lessemf.com the high performance silver, although the white stuff (cheaper) will also work. 3) The ceramic pot should hold 3-5 gallons of soil. Should have draining holes in bottom of planter. 4) the soil mixture should drain well, and there should be a container UNDER the planter to catch excess water. 5) The soil should be kept MOIST, never let it go dry. The water used should be SPRING water or Artesian Well Water. I water ours every nite, keep a water bottle next to planter.* 6) A copper 6 inch tube/pipe roughly 3/4 or one inch diameter is placed in center of planter, about an inch sticking up. 7) A coated wire- light insulated wire, 1.5 square cable is fine- with 2 alligator clips are needed. 8) One end is attached to the grounding sheet, the edge. 9) other end attached to the copper grounding rod. 10) the wire should not be more then 12 inches long, from bed to planter pot. 11) the copper rod needs to be sanded/polished from time to time, to up its conductivitity. (plumbers abrasive sandcloth or similiar material) My daughter sleeps with her head at planter area, I sleep with feet at planter area...this is something you will have to experiment with. As for using two rods in same planter pot? I don't know how well this would work, we have two separate planters. While they do take up space, its a trade off. Soil Info: (from notes) Soil must be light, not sandy, not clay soil. Ciaran states a separate pot/planter for each bed. **Also found in notes: one reason for using this particular procedure is because outside ground/soil can contain indesired frequencies from geological features below it. Below is his website. I hope this helps, Blessings, Lizzie Nordic Natural Energies | Home | Environment, Work, Natural ... www.nordic.ie/ How to Test Soil Texture | eHow.com www.ehow.com › Plants From: j777@... Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:57:02 +0000 Subject: Re: Body Voltage Meter Lizzie, I am in the process of reading up on grounding. I do want to avoid stray current so the Planter Method appeals to me. I would, though, like to understand how it works. Is this method one that allows the " good " electrons from the earth flow up through the bottom of the ceramic material and through moist, conductive soil while the stray current is blocked by the insulating properties of the ceramic? Do you think it would be any problem to run more than one grounding rod into the same pot? Is one type of soil better than another? Can you recommend something to read on this? Thanks, Jim > > > Let me respond to this statement below. This is only true and safe if there > is NO stray current in the ground. Anyone on city water will have current > in the ground, as well as in their water supply. > The planter technique was > designed to provide a safer way in cases where there IS a high amt of stray voltage > in the ground. > The soil has to be well draining soil, and is to be kept > moist at all times. Ideally, the ceramic planter used should hold 3-5 > gallons of soil; in other words, a pretty large sized pot. > Insisting that the ONLY way to properly ground the rod/body, using > only the rod plugged into the ground, is potentially dangerous. > Think: should there be stray voltage in the ground - how well do you' think > that would act as a grounding system? In addition to this; anyone who has done the research > on how utility companies are (by law) allowed to run the stray current into > the ground is very familiar with how common " stray voltage " in the ground > really is. > > Lizzie > > " But please make sure to connect to a proper ground. Ground does not mean any > old soil. It means connecting electrically to a large reservoir of > electrons... such as the plant Earth. " > > > > > > > > From: lessemf@... > Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 11:41:06 -0400 > Subject: Re: Re: Body Voltage Meter > > > > > > > >> We tried with my son's multimeter w an alligator clip in a ceramic pot to > >> a copper rod, > >> Set on 200 volts AC range. > >> > > If the meter has a lower setting, you'll get better results set to 2 V > > AC, as you shouldn't get any higher readings unless right under or next > > to high voltage lines. Or holding a power cord in your hand. That way > > you can be more accurate in measuring milliVolts AC. > > is absolutely correct. When set on 2V range, this meter has a > resolution of .001 V (=1 mV). > > But please make sure to connect to a proper ground. Ground does not mean any > old soil. It means connecting electrically to a large reservoir of > electrons... such as the plant Earth. > > Emil > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 Jim, I just browsed thru Ciaran's site ...its been awhile since I " ve looked. I didn't see anywhere where he posts this " technique " ... maybe because it goes against the conventional grain, of people always believing that the ground is safe? I don't know for sure. What I do know from other research is that other countries seem to be ahead of the curve, when it comes to identifying stray voltage and other energies commonly found in outside grounds. Lizzie From: j777@... Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:57:02 +0000 Subject: Re: Body Voltage Meter Lizzie, I am in the process of reading up on grounding. I do want to avoid stray current so the Planter Method appeals to me. I would, though, like to understand how it works. Is this method one that allows the " good " electrons from the earth flow up through the bottom of the ceramic material and through moist, conductive soil while the stray current is blocked by the insulating properties of the ceramic? Do you think it would be any problem to run more than one grounding rod into the same pot? Is one type of soil better than another? Can you recommend something to read on this? Thanks, Jim > > > Let me respond to this statement below. This is only true and safe if there > is NO stray current in the ground. Anyone on city water will have current > in the ground, as well as in their water supply. > The planter technique was > designed to provide a safer way in cases where there IS a high amt of stray voltage > in the ground. > The soil has to be well draining soil, and is to be kept > moist at all times. Ideally, the ceramic planter used should hold 3-5 > gallons of soil; in other words, a pretty large sized pot. > Insisting that the ONLY way to properly ground the rod/body, using > only the rod plugged into the ground, is potentially dangerous. > Think: should there be stray voltage in the ground - how well do you' think > that would act as a grounding system? In addition to this; anyone who has done the research > on how utility companies are (by law) allowed to run the stray current into > the ground is very familiar with how common " stray voltage " in the ground > really is. > > Lizzie > > " But please make sure to connect to a proper ground. Ground does not mean any > old soil. It means connecting electrically to a large reservoir of > electrons... such as the plant Earth. " > > > > > > > > From: lessemf@... > Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 11:41:06 -0400 > Subject: Re: Re: Body Voltage Meter > > > > > > > >> We tried with my son's multimeter w an alligator clip in a ceramic pot to > >> a copper rod, > >> Set on 200 volts AC range. > >> > > If the meter has a lower setting, you'll get better results set to 2 V > > AC, as you shouldn't get any higher readings unless right under or next > > to high voltage lines. Or holding a power cord in your hand. That way > > you can be more accurate in measuring milliVolts AC. > > is absolutely correct. When set on 2V range, this meter has a > resolution of .001 V (=1 mV). > > But please make sure to connect to a proper ground. Ground does not mean any > old soil. It means connecting electrically to a large reservoir of > electrons... such as the plant Earth. > > Emil > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 Lizzie, So the planters are INSIDE and not OUTSIDE. I don't understand how the earth's frequencies pass through our flooring materials in our house? We would have ordered dirt flooring if we had only known.... Jim > > > > > > Let me respond to this statement below. This is only true and safe if there > > is NO stray current in the ground. Anyone on city water will have current > > in the ground, as well as in their water supply. > > The planter technique was > > designed to provide a safer way in cases where there IS a high amt of stray voltage > > in the ground. > > The soil has to be well draining soil, and is to be kept > > moist at all times. Ideally, the ceramic planter used should hold 3-5 > > gallons of soil; in other words, a pretty large sized pot. > > Insisting that the ONLY way to properly ground the rod/body, using > > only the rod plugged into the ground, is potentially dangerous. > > Think: should there be stray voltage in the ground - how well do you' think > > that would act as a grounding system? In addition to this; anyone who has done the research > > on how utility companies are (by law) allowed to run the stray current into > > the ground is very familiar with how common " stray voltage " in the ground > > really is. > > > > Lizzie > > > > " But please make sure to connect to a proper ground. Ground does not mean any > > old soil. It means connecting electrically to a large reservoir of > > electrons... such as the plant Earth. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: lessemf@ > > Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 11:41:06 -0400 > > Subject: Re: Re: Body Voltage Meter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> We tried with my son's multimeter w an alligator clip in a ceramic pot to > > >> a copper rod, > > >> Set on 200 volts AC range. > > >> > > > If the meter has a lower setting, you'll get better results set to 2 V > > > AC, as you shouldn't get any higher readings unless right under or next > > > to high voltage lines. Or holding a power cord in your hand. That way > > > you can be more accurate in measuring milliVolts AC. > > > > is absolutely correct. When set on 2V range, this meter has a > > resolution of .001 V (=1 mV). > > > > But please make sure to connect to a proper ground. Ground does not mean any > > old soil. It means connecting electrically to a large reservoir of > > electrons... such as the plant Earth. > > > > Emil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 Always good to have a sense of humor! Yea, if I'd have known what was in the ground near my house...I wouldnt have bought this HOUSE! The purpose is to ground the body...by using the planter inside, instead of putting a grounding rod OUTside....where there may be nasty frequencies and stray voltage in the ground. Its similiar to the earthing or bare foot earthing....How " I " view it is this: this is a safe way to pull the body voltage down because its too high. The earth's frequencies don't need to pass thru the planter. This method is used for grounding the body. And especially during sleep, because when we lay down, it is normal for the body voltage to rise. Unfortunately, in cases where the body's voltage tends to be too high, this is not a good thing. Also, when we sleep, is when the body repairs/regenerates itself. This process in interfered with, when the body voltage is too high. I read somewhere that when the body is not grounded, it makes people more susceptible to other emf's. Based on what I have witnessed, I believe this is very true. Lizzie From: j777@... Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 00:18:40 +0000 Subject: Re: Body Voltage Meter Lizzie, So the planters are INSIDE and not OUTSIDE. I don't understand how the earth's frequencies pass through our flooring materials in our house? We would have ordered dirt flooring if we had only known.... Jim > > > > > > Let me respond to this statement below. This is only true and safe if there > > is NO stray current in the ground. Anyone on city water will have current > > in the ground, as well as in their water supply. > > The planter technique was > > designed to provide a safer way in cases where there IS a high amt of stray voltage > > in the ground. > > The soil has to be well draining soil, and is to be kept > > moist at all times. Ideally, the ceramic planter used should hold 3-5 > > gallons of soil; in other words, a pretty large sized pot. > > Insisting that the ONLY way to properly ground the rod/body, using > > only the rod plugged into the ground, is potentially dangerous. > > Think: should there be stray voltage in the ground - how well do you' think > > that would act as a grounding system? In addition to this; anyone who has done the research > > on how utility companies are (by law) allowed to run the stray current into > > the ground is very familiar with how common " stray voltage " in the ground > > really is. > > > > Lizzie > > > > " But please make sure to connect to a proper ground. Ground does not mean any > > old soil. It means connecting electrically to a large reservoir of > > electrons... such as the plant Earth. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: lessemf@ > > Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 11:41:06 -0400 > > Subject: Re: Re: Body Voltage Meter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> We tried with my son's multimeter w an alligator clip in a ceramic pot to > > >> a copper rod, > > >> Set on 200 volts AC range. > > >> > > > If the meter has a lower setting, you'll get better results set to 2 V > > > AC, as you shouldn't get any higher readings unless right under or next > > > to high voltage lines. Or holding a power cord in your hand. That way > > > you can be more accurate in measuring milliVolts AC. > > > > is absolutely correct. When set on 2V range, this meter has a > > resolution of .001 V (=1 mV). > > > > But please make sure to connect to a proper ground. Ground does not mean any > > old soil. It means connecting electrically to a large reservoir of > > electrons... such as the plant Earth. > > > > Emil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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