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HI,

I hope you find the supplements to help you feel better.

Can you explain this type of therapy when you have time?

http://www.medicalqigong.org/resources.htm#medical_qigong

Kathy

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Hi Lizzie:

Thanks for the info. Since receiving Medical Qi Gong from an

excellent practitioner, there have been huge improvements

in my symptoms, but for the last week or so, the heart spasms

have been acute and severe!!

I am NOT having anxiety attacks, in fact, I am calm when this happens. Not

panicky, and I usually feel so ill when it happens, I just sit it out...

Sometimes, I continue with my activities.

I am wondering if your friends described what I did, that is heart shaking,

heart spasms, irregular pulse, dizzy, but not panick, not stressed.

The heart feels as if its vibrating as do muscles, literally?

It it is, then quite rightly, it could by hypthyroidism, diabetes, or any number

of other medical problems.

My thyroid test came back " normal " , my blood sugar level " normal "

I was hypothryoid, unable to take Armour or Thyroxine. Recent tests for the

last six months show " normal " ...

Why thyroid & adrenal support did she take?

I read a published paper recently which mentions diabetes

can be caused by EMF, in which case, I would postulate

why not hypothyroidism??? It can cause so much damage,

on all levels cascading in various symptoms for the individual.

Thanks,

Kookie

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Thats not what was suggested, the reference was based on reducing

the symptoms as per your experience with consuming lamb ie that it

seeminglu contains Q10, creatine and carnosine, hence trying these

as pure supplements

 

Definitely look into thyroid and adrenal issues, also TCM and kidney Yin/Yang

deficiency

From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@...>

>

>Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 19:51

>Subject: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

>

>

>  

>

>

>thanks, Ole. I have been taking a protein powder

>made from yellow spilt peas which contains

>high amount of amino acids. I will try this again.

>

>I also bought hemp oil and hemp powder which

>contains even higher amount. Will try this again...

>

>Kookie

>

>

>>

>> You may want to look into supplementation to cure deficiency of Q10

Ubiquinol, creatine, carnosine

>> http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0309174003001815

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> >________________________________

>> >From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@...>

>> >

>> >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 15:53

>> >Subject: Heart spasms and arrythmias

>> >

>> >

>> > 

>> >

>> >

>> >Has anyone heard of EMF/ES causing

>> >acute electrical conductivity in the heart

>> >leading to acute and severe spasms in the heart?

>> >This is increasing, and becoming more frequent

>> >and severe!!

>> >

>> >There is a sudden increase in arrythmias

>> >and heart feels as in spasm, to the point

>> >where the whole body trembles...

>> >

>> >There have been some other weird symptoms

>> >where there is a need for large consumption of lamb!!

>> >

>> >Two days ago, against my own resolution not to take

>> >vits and supps, I started on multi adding B1 and Panthotenic

>> >Acid, Kelp and a multi minerals. There has been lessening,

>> >of those symptoms, but it continues. I am wondering if it is

>> >possible for ES/EMF to cause damage to ion channels and

>> >metabolizing pathways leading to inability to absorb nutrients

>> >from foods? There are hypglycemic attacks, with normal

>> >blood sugar level!! It does not exclude possibilities of hyperinsulnemia

>> >etc...

>> >

>> >I came across a paper which mentioned EMF exposure causing diabetes

>> >and who knows what other metabolic process which we are unable to diagnose

>> >for which there is no label yet!!

>> >

>> >Thanks

>> >

>> >Kookie

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>>

>>

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Both my girlfriend and I reduced our heart palpitations etc in less than a  day

immediately

with the Ubiquinol form of Q10. Get either Jarrow QH from iherb.comor try

liposomal Ubiquinol.

You need to take 200mg for a week, then reduce to 100mg.

It works wonders if the problem is deficiency of Q10. Creatine and carnitine

(best for heart is propionyl form)

 

Best form of oral magnesium is the malate form, either NOW or Source Naturals

brand

 

Best possible form of supplemental magnesium is topical magnesium hydrochloride

" oil " , ubelieveable

absorption, remember to get an original Zechstein sourced product

 

Potassium and calcium deficiencies may also play a role.

 

 

From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@...>

>

>Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 20:04

>Subject: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

>

>

>  

>

>

>

>Good article, just read it.

>

>I had no idea that being low on Q10 could cause those symptoms.

>Its difficult, other deficiencies can cause same symptoms, cramps,

>etc.. which I have.

>

>Have been on very limited diet since 2002 because of allergies.

>It makes sense there are some deficiencies. A few years ago, I was

>tested for Q10 level, it was lowish..

>

>May have to try this asap, and who knows.

>

>Which would be the best C0Q10 to try???

>

>Kookie

>

>

>>

>> You may want to look into supplementation to cure deficiency of Q10

Ubiquinol, creatine, carnosine

>> http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0309174003001815

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> >________________________________

>> >From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@...>

>> >

>> >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 15:53

>> >Subject: Heart spasms and arrythmias

>> >

>> >

>> > 

>> >

>> >

>> >Has anyone heard of EMF/ES causing

>> >acute electrical conductivity in the heart

>> >leading to acute and severe spasms in the heart?

>> >This is increasing, and becoming more frequent

>> >and severe!!

>> >

>> >There is a sudden increase in arrythmias

>> >and heart feels as in spasm, to the point

>> >where the whole body trembles...

>> >

>> >There have been some other weird symptoms

>> >where there is a need for large consumption of lamb!!

>> >

>> >Two days ago, against my own resolution not to take

>> >vits and supps, I started on multi adding B1 and Panthotenic

>> >Acid, Kelp and a multi minerals. There has been lessening,

>> >of those symptoms, but it continues. I am wondering if it is

>> >possible for ES/EMF to cause damage to ion channels and

>> >metabolizing pathways leading to inability to absorb nutrients

>> >from foods? There are hypglycemic attacks, with normal

>> >blood sugar level!! It does not exclude possibilities of hyperinsulnemia

>> >etc...

>> >

>> >I came across a paper which mentioned EMF exposure causing diabetes

>> >and who knows what other metabolic process which we are unable to diagnose

>> >for which there is no label yet!!

>> >

>> >Thanks

>> >

>> >Kookie

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>>

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http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/refsum/refsum.htm

Has anyone looked into this possibility:  Refsum or ARD?

Increasing night blindness due to degeneration of the

retina (retinitis pigmentosa).  If the disease

progresses symptoms can be:

deafness, loss of the sense of smell

(anosmia), problems with balance and

coordination (ataxia), dry and scaly skin (ichthyosis), and heartbeat

abnormalities (cardiac

arrhythmias).

 

 Those w this lack the enzyme to break down

foods that contain phytanic acid, including

 dairy products; beef and

lamb; and fatty fish such as tuna, cod,

and haddock.

I'd like to look into it. Both my son & I  noticed burning after eating beef. I

also noticed it

from a vitamin that contains cod & haddock. Treatment is diet changes. Some may

need a plasma exchange.

Untreated, ARD can lead to sudden death caused by heartbeat abnormalities. 

Kathy

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OK, then it seems Q10 is what you should get asap, remember to get the reduced

Kaneka Ubiquinol form. I tried

different brands, but find that QH from Jarrow have superior absorption and dont

feel synthetic.

From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@...>

>

>Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 21:33

>Subject: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

>

>

>  

>

>

>WOW, this is amazing.

>

>I just read the symptoms of QO10 deficiency, and I have all of them!!

>

>http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=nutrient & dbid=118

>

>It all makes sense to me now. For a few years I had to eat large

>quantities of lamb to calm those palps. it worked - for a while.

>Lamb contains Q10!! I am allergic to fish, which contains higher.

>

>I tried L-Carnitine, and that helped, again, not sustainable. Then

>all amino acids from yellow split peas, and green peas, and Hemp.

>Didn't help much, high content of all amino acids!

>

>Am also low on folic acid and omega fatty acids, but allergic to

>fish, and flax seed oil does not convert well to DHA & EPA.

>

>Low on other nutrients due to restrictive diet for so long.

>

>I have little doubt that Q10 has a role to play in those palps

>and weird hypoglycemic attacks, cramps, bleeding gums

>and so forth.

>

>I will order the Jarrow formula. I read that Now is also good

>as well as Life Extension. I am worried about beeswax it contains!!

>

>I heard about other people saying that when they took Q10 it triggered

>palpitations. Would that be because the dose was too high?

>

>I started on a multi vits and minerals a few days ago..

>Does not contain all necessary nutrients, nor does it contain

>Q10. In anycase, if I was low a few years ago, then...

>

>

>> >>

>> >> You may want to look into supplementation to cure deficiency of Q10

Ubiquinol, creatine, carnosine

>> >> http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0309174003001815

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> >________________________________

>> >> >From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@>

>> >> >

>> >> >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 15:53

>> >> >Subject: Heart spasms and arrythmias

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> > 

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >Has anyone heard of EMF/ES causing

>> >> >acute electrical conductivity in the heart

>> >> >leading to acute and severe spasms in the heart?

>> >> >This is increasing, and becoming more frequent

>> >> >and severe!!

>> >> >

>> >> >There is a sudden increase in arrythmias

>> >> >and heart feels as in spasm, to the point

>> >> >where the whole body trembles...

>> >> >

>> >> >There have been some other weird symptoms

>> >> >where there is a need for large consumption of lamb!!

>> >> >

>> >> >Two days ago, against my own resolution not to take

>> >> >vits and supps, I started on multi adding B1 and Panthotenic

>> >> >Acid, Kelp and a multi minerals. There has been lessening,

>> >> >of those symptoms, but it continues. I am wondering if it is

>> >> >possible for ES/EMF to cause damage to ion channels and

>> >> >metabolizing pathways leading to inability to absorb nutrients

>> >> >from foods? There are hypglycemic attacks, with normal

>> >> >blood sugar level!! It does not exclude possibilities of hyperinsulnemia

>> >> >etc...

>> >> >

>> >> >I came across a paper which mentioned EMF exposure causing diabetes

>> >> >and who knows what other metabolic process which we are unable to

diagnose

>> >> >for which there is no label yet!!

>> >> >

>> >> >Thanks

>> >> >

>> >> >Kookie

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >>

>> >>

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Hears some info. They have CS line could check into Overnight that should  be

there by Tues?

http://products.mercola.com/coq10-ubiquinol/?s_kwcid=TC|15735|ubiquinol||S|p|948\

4116664 & gclid=CKuLlLWJzaoCFQPrKgodcT1ycA

You could call a Whole Foods  or look up a Health Food store near.

Kathy

From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@...>

S

 

I ordered this one:

http://www.jarrow.com/product.php?prodid=154

Will arrive between 20-24 August... will see if I can

it sooner!!

> >> >>

> >> >> You may want to look into supplementation to cure deficiency of Q10

Ubiquinol, creatine, carnosine

> >> >> http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0309174003001815

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >> >> >________________________________

> >> >> >From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@>

> >> >> >

> >> >> >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 15:53

> >> >> >Subject: Heart spasms and arrythmias

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> > 

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> >Has anyone heard of EMF/ES causing

> >> >> >acute electrical conductivity in the heart

> >> >> >leading to acute and severe spasms in the heart?

> >> >> >This is increasing, and becoming more frequent

> >> >> >and severe!!

> >> >> >

> >> >> >There is a sudden increase in arrythmias

> >> >> >and heart feels as in spasm, to the point

> >> >> >where the whole body trembles...

> >> >> >

> >> >> >There have been some other weird symptoms

> >> >> >where there is a need for large consumption of lamb!!

> >> >> >

> >> >> >Two days ago, against my own resolution not to take

> >> >> >vits and supps, I started on multi adding B1 and Panthotenic

> >> >> >Acid, Kelp and a multi minerals. There has been lessening,

> >> >> >of those symptoms, but it continues. I am wondering if it is

> >> >> >possible for ES/EMF to cause damage to ion channels and

> >> >> >metabolizing pathways leading to inability to absorb nutrients

> >> >> >from foods? There are hypglycemic attacks, with normal

> >> >> >blood sugar level!! It does not exclude possibilities of

hyperinsulnemia

> >> >> >etc...

> >> >> >

> >> >> >I came across a paper which mentioned EMF exposure causing diabetes

> >> >> >and who knows what other metabolic process which we are unable to

diagnose

> >> >> >for which there is no label yet!!

> >> >> >

> >> >> >Thanks

> >> >> >

> >> >> >Kookie

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >>

> >> >>

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Oh yes,

I forgot to mention, but carnitine helps my heart symptoms some, too.  And

CoQ10--yes, very much--my heart symptoms need B12, calcium AEP, and pantethine,

tho, also, to go away, but it takes only about 30 minutes to an hour after I

take them for all of the autonomic nervous system symptoms to go away.  

DIane

From: Ole Alstrup <alstrup@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

" " < >

Date: Saturday, August 13, 2011, 3:06 PM

 

Both my girlfriend and I reduced our heart palpitations etc in less than

a  day immediately

with the Ubiquinol form of Q10. Get either Jarrow QH from iherb.comor try

liposomal Ubiquinol.

You need to take 200mg for a week, then reduce to 100mg.

It works wonders if the problem is deficiency of Q10. Creatine and carnitine

(best for heart is propionyl form)

 

Best form of oral magnesium is the malate form, either NOW or Source Naturals

brand

 

Best possible form of supplemental magnesium is topical magnesium hydrochloride

" oil " , ubelieveable

absorption, remember to get an original Zechstein sourced product

 

Potassium and calcium deficiencies may also play a role.

 

 

From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@...>

>

>Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 20:04

>Subject: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

>

>

>  

>

>

>

>Good article, just read it.

>

>I had no idea that being low on Q10 could cause those symptoms.

>Its difficult, other deficiencies can cause same symptoms, cramps,

>etc.. which I have.

>

>Have been on very limited diet since 2002 because of allergies.

>It makes sense there are some deficiencies. A few years ago, I was

>tested for Q10 level, it was lowish..

>

>May have to try this asap, and who knows.

>

>Which would be the best C0Q10 to try???

>

>Kookie

>

>

>>

>> You may want to look into supplementation to cure deficiency of Q10

Ubiquinol, creatine, carnosine

>> http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0309174003001815

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> >________________________________

>> >From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@...>

>> >

>> >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 15:53

>> >Subject: Heart spasms and arrythmias

>> >

>> >

>> > 

>> >

>> >

>> >Has anyone heard of EMF/ES causing

>> >acute electrical conductivity in the heart

>> >leading to acute and severe spasms in the heart?

>> >This is increasing, and becoming more frequent

>> >and severe!!

>> >

>> >There is a sudden increase in arrythmias

>> >and heart feels as in spasm, to the point

>> >where the whole body trembles...

>> >

>> >There have been some other weird symptoms

>> >where there is a need for large consumption of lamb!!

>> >

>> >Two days ago, against my own resolution not to take

>> >vits and supps, I started on multi adding B1 and Panthotenic

>> >Acid, Kelp and a multi minerals. There has been lessening,

>> >of those symptoms, but it continues. I am wondering if it is

>> >possible for ES/EMF to cause damage to ion channels and

>> >metabolizing pathways leading to inability to absorb nutrients

>> >from foods? There are hypglycemic attacks, with normal

>> >blood sugar level!! It does not exclude possibilities of hyperinsulnemia

>> >etc...

>> >

>> >I came across a paper which mentioned EMF exposure causing diabetes

>> >and who knows what other metabolic process which we are unable to diagnose

>> >for which there is no label yet!!

>> >

>> >Thanks

>> >

>> >Kookie

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>>

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Retinitis pigmentosa is classed as an ion channel disease, Kathy.  So it is

also something which I would think people with tight junction permeability could

have issues with.  [Emfs can cause tj permeability.]

Diane

From: KathyB <calicocat477@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

Date: Saturday, August 13, 2011, 3:29 PM

 

http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/refsum/refsum.htm

Has anyone looked into this possibility:  Refsum or ARD?

Increasing night blindness due to degeneration of the

retina (retinitis pigmentosa).  If the disease

progresses symptoms can be:

deafness, loss of the sense of smell

(anosmia), problems with balance and

coordination (ataxia), dry and scaly skin (ichthyosis), and heartbeat

abnormalities (cardiac

arrhythmias).

 

 Those w this lack the enzyme to break down

foods that contain phytanic acid, including

 dairy products; beef and

lamb; and fatty fish such as tuna, cod,

and haddock.

I'd like to look into it. Both my son & I  noticed burning after eating beef. I

also noticed it

from a vitamin that contains cod & haddock. Treatment is diet changes. Some may

need a plasma exchange.

Untreated, ARD can lead to sudden death caused by heartbeat abnormalities. 

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Yes, that is what I wrote; Jarrow use Kaneka Ubiqinol, but has much better

absorption because it

is liposome based. Order from iherb and get through DHL, you have it in 2 days.

But you can get it

so many places in the UK. 

From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@...>

>

>Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 22:02

>Subject: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

>

>

>  

>

>

>Is Jarrow using Kaneka Ubiquinol?

>Just read Kaneka is the best...

>

>

>> >> >>

>> >> >> You may want to look into supplementation to cure deficiency of Q10

Ubiquinol, creatine, carnosine

>> >> >> http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0309174003001815

>> >> >>

>> >> >>

>> >> >>

>> >> >>

>> >> >>

>> >> >> >________________________________

>> >> >> >From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@>

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 15:53

>> >> >> >Subject: Heart spasms and arrythmias

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > 

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >Has anyone heard of EMF/ES causing

>> >> >> >acute electrical conductivity in the heart

>> >> >> >leading to acute and severe spasms in the heart?

>> >> >> >This is increasing, and becoming more frequent

>> >> >> >and severe!!

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >There is a sudden increase in arrythmias

>> >> >> >and heart feels as in spasm, to the point

>> >> >> >where the whole body trembles...

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >There have been some other weird symptoms

>> >> >> >where there is a need for large consumption of lamb!!

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >Two days ago, against my own resolution not to take

>> >> >> >vits and supps, I started on multi adding B1 and Panthotenic

>> >> >> >Acid, Kelp and a multi minerals. There has been lessening,

>> >> >> >of those symptoms, but it continues. I am wondering if it is

>> >> >> >possible for ES/EMF to cause damage to ion channels and

>> >> >> >metabolizing pathways leading to inability to absorb nutrients

>> >> >> >from foods? There are hypglycemic attacks, with normal

>> >> >> >blood sugar level!! It does not exclude possibilities of

hyperinsulnemia

>> >> >> >etc...

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >I came across a paper which mentioned EMF exposure causing diabetes

>> >> >> >and who knows what other metabolic process which we are unable to

diagnose

>> >> >> >for which there is no label yet!!

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >Thanks

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >Kookie

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >

>> >> >>

>> >> >>

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This is Ubiquinone, not Ubiquinol.

From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@...>

>

>Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 22:04

>Subject: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

>

>

>  

>

>

>I ordered this one:

>

>http://www.jarrow.com/product.php?prodid=154

>

>Will arrive between 20-24 August... will see if I can

>it sooner!!

>

>

>> >> >>

>> >> >> You may want to look into supplementation to cure deficiency of Q10

Ubiquinol, creatine, carnosine

>> >> >> http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0309174003001815

>> >> >>

>> >> >>

>> >> >>

>> >> >>

>> >> >>

>> >> >> >________________________________

>> >> >> >From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@>

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 15:53

>> >> >> >Subject: Heart spasms and arrythmias

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > 

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >Has anyone heard of EMF/ES causing

>> >> >> >acute electrical conductivity in the heart

>> >> >> >leading to acute and severe spasms in the heart?

>> >> >> >This is increasing, and becoming more frequent

>> >> >> >and severe!!

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >There is a sudden increase in arrythmias

>> >> >> >and heart feels as in spasm, to the point

>> >> >> >where the whole body trembles...

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >There have been some other weird symptoms

>> >> >> >where there is a need for large consumption of lamb!!

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >Two days ago, against my own resolution not to take

>> >> >> >vits and supps, I started on multi adding B1 and Panthotenic

>> >> >> >Acid, Kelp and a multi minerals. There has been lessening,

>> >> >> >of those symptoms, but it continues. I am wondering if it is

>> >> >> >possible for ES/EMF to cause damage to ion channels and

>> >> >> >metabolizing pathways leading to inability to absorb nutrients

>> >> >> >from foods? There are hypglycemic attacks, with normal

>> >> >> >blood sugar level!! It does not exclude possibilities of

hyperinsulnemia

>> >> >> >etc...

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >I came across a paper which mentioned EMF exposure causing diabetes

>> >> >> >and who knows what other metabolic process which we are unable to

diagnose

>> >> >> >for which there is no label yet!!

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >Thanks

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >Kookie

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >

>> >> >>

>> >> >>

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Hi Kooky and all,

Blood tests are notorious for being in accurate. Why? Because the medical system

keeps " changing " the levels that supposedly show what's normal and what is NOT

normal, or healthy.

What this often translates to, is that by the time mainstream medicine diagnoses

someone's thyroid being out of whack, THEIR THRYOID HAS ALREADY HIT ROCK

BOTTOM....this is something you DON " T want. The lower that thryoid goes, the

harder it is to bring it back in line. Whereas if you catch it earlier, its much

easier to deal with.

For those who really want to check their own thryoids, put a pen/pad of paper by

your bed, take your temperature every morning BEFORE you get out of bed. If you

are using a digital thermomneter, ignore the beeps and keep it in your mouth

under tongue, for 4 min. Do this for a week...and then average out your

temperatures. Add them all up, and divide by the number of days you took your

temp. Any temp UNDER 97.6 means the thyroid is OUT of balance. If it is OVER 99,

this means the thryoid is OVER active, they call this hyPER thyroidsim. Under

active is HYPO thryoidism.

Do NOT Rely on blood test...This is called the Basal Temperature Test and

you can find it on line, by googling it.

Oh I absolutely believe you that you are NOT having anxiety attacks. And because

the thryoid does have a huge role in the heart, it could well BE the thryoid

that is causing this...along with being exposed to high fields, you never

asnswered that question. Is this happening under certain conditons?

Many people are unaware that both the thryoid and adrenals WORK together. So if

the adrenals are out of whack, it is common for the thryoid to be out of

balance, as well. And why this is important? Because those with adrenal isssues

who try to take Armour, or ect....if the adrenals are out of balance, stressed,

they don't make enough of the hormone to be able to USE the thyroid support.

That means the body is not able to metabolize the thryoid help because the

adrenals are so low, they are not making enough of the hormones that are

responsible for USING the thryoid hormones. So what happens is , the thryoid

hormones build up, you feel extremely crapppy, awful in some cases....until the

high levels of thryoid that the body is simply not able to metabolize, finally

work their way out of the body.

So many who try the thryoid and don't have a positive experience, actually need

to support the adrenal glands. This is why I said first treat the adrenals, then

add in the thyroid support.

Here are some common symptoms of an under active thryoid: brain fog, thin hair-

lifeless no body, thin eyebrows, vision trouble, digestive issues, puffy under

the eyes, bad periods, weight problems, bad memory, can't think of the " word "

you want to use, walk out the door, forget your keys , can't find your car in

the parking lot, can't remember what you did with whatever, trouble sleeping,

wake up tired, weirded out dreams, thin nails that break all the time, often

candida issues, dry skin...heart problems. (these are just a few)

Adrenal: bruised look under eyes, low energy, aches and pains, allergies, low

physical body strenghth, very low patience, hypoglycemic, stand up too fast, get

dizzy, feel better in bottom half of day, wake up want something sugary,

exercise makes you more tired, if someone has a cold a mile away, you catch

it...low immunity,irregular pulse and/or low pulse....if severe, weight

decreases.....**These are just a few, notice how the symptoms OVER LAP?

This is because the thryoid and adrenals are like best friends. When one goes

down, the other jumps in to help. If no one hears them screaming for

help....THEY BOTH GO DOWN.

My friend took: for thyroid: 1) Iodine drops - Nascent Iodine. 2) Selenium,

Thryoid Helper from www.wellnessresources.com 3) Magnesium Chloride Oil from

Ancient MInerals --google Mark Sircus, Magnesium, Leptin and

Obesity.....excellent article! Also the company that sells Ancient Minerals

Magnesium, if you read Sircus's article, he has a coupon code, they are offering

the Magnesium at a good price this week. And a good Vitamin B-complex. For

adrenals, 1) raw glandulars 2) Holy Basil Tea or capsules from Organic India

(holy basil tea helps to regulate the adrenals), 3) Turmeric capsules also from

Organic India..**She is actually Diabetic, has been for years and was able to

get off of her meds, using diet to control, once she started taking supplements

to support both her thryoid and adrenals. She also deals with candida, and eats

no wheat, no sugar, but still uses her cell phone/and cordless

phone....unfortunately. She eats high quality protein like almonds, which is

important for low adrenals..protein when you first get up, and a small amt

before you go to bed.

Let me clarify....many people mistakenly believe they are having anxiety

attacks, when the real culprit IS the thryoid, which controls the heart- and in

many cases, the adrenals are also low.

In the beginning, she was VERY sensitive to almost everything she tried. Because

her thryoid and adrenals were so low. The IODINE we found for her, that putting

the drops right on the belly button, 2-3 drops, let it dry....enabled her to be

able to tolerate the Iodine drops. Her metabolism was very messed up for along

time. The adrenals regulate the body's blood sugar levels, by the time the body

goes into full diabetes, those poor adrenal glands have been pushed and pushed

to their limit.

Lizzie

From: calicocat477@...

Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 11:06:02 -0700

Subject: Re: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

HI,

I hope you find the supplements to help you feel better.

Can you explain this type of therapy when you have time?

http://www.medicalqigong.org/resources.htm#medical_qigong

Kathy

furstc0404@... wrote:

Subject: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

Hi Lizzie:

Thanks for the info. Since receiving Medical Qi Gong from an

excellent practitioner, there have been huge improvements

in my symptoms, but for the last week or so, the heart spasms

have been acute and severe!!

I am NOT having anxiety attacks, in fact, I am calm when this happens. Not

panicky, and I usually feel so ill when it happens, I just sit it out...

Sometimes, I continue with my activities.

I am wondering if your friends described what I did, that is heart shaking,

heart spasms, irregular pulse, dizzy, but not panick, not stressed.

The heart feels as if its vibrating as do muscles, literally?

It it is, then quite rightly, it could by hypthyroidism, diabetes, or any number

of other medical problems.

My thyroid test came back " normal " , my blood sugar level " normal "

I was hypothryoid, unable to take Armour or Thyroxine. Recent tests for the last

six months show " normal " ...

Why thyroid & adrenal support did she take?

I read a published paper recently which mentions diabetes

can be caused by EMF, in which case, I would postulate

why not hypothyroidism??? It can cause so much damage,

on all levels cascading in various symptoms for the individual.

Thanks,

Kookie

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For magnesium, get topical/transdermal magnesium hydrochloride oil, it goes

through your skin and is taken up by the cells immediately.

It is the most amqazing magnesium supplement I have ever tried, ubelievable. You

can get it at Amazon UK under the BetterYou

brand and others, but only use a Zechstein origin product.  

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>

>Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 22:22

>Subject: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

>

>

>  

>

>

>Thanks, Kathy, its probably quite a few things,

>for instance, I read that we Vit E to process Q10,

>and I am low on that too. Guess will have to spend

>some time to read.

>

>Same for Magnesium, can also cause heart spasms

>and sudden cardiac death.

>

>I read on a health forum about people suddenly dying,

>and some were found to be very low on magnesium.

>

>One man wrote about his father, who had leg cramps

>and died a few months later, I often wonder how many

>of those people suffered from nutrient deficiency!!

>

>I hope that I won't react to the Q10.. SIGH, need to

>keep positive.

>

>

>>

>> >>

>>

>> >> You may want to look into supplementation to cure deficiency of Q10

Ubiquinol, creatine, carnosine

>>

>> >> http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0309174003001815

>>

>> >>

>>

>> >>

>>

>> >>

>>

>> >>

>>

>> >>

>>

>> >> >________________________________

>>

>> >> >From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@>

>>

>> >> >

>>

>> >> >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 15:53

>>

>> >> >Subject: Heart spasms and arrythmias

>>

>> >> >

>>

>> >> >

>>

>> >> > 

>>

>> >> >

>>

>> >> >

>>

>> >> >Has anyone heard of EMF/ES causing

>>

>> >> >acute electrical conductivity in the heart

>>

>> >> >leading to acute and severe spasms in the heart?

>>

>> >> >This is increasing, and becoming more frequent

>>

>> >> >and severe!!

>>

>> >> >

>>

>> >> >There is a sudden increase in arrythmias

>>

>> >> >and heart feels as in spasm, to the point

>>

>> >> >where the whole body trembles...

>>

>> >> >

>>

>> >> >There have been some other weird symptoms

>>

>> >> >where there is a need for large consumption of lamb!!

>>

>> >> >

>>

>> >> >Two days ago, against my own resolution not to take

>>

>> >> >vits and supps, I started on multi adding B1 and Panthotenic

>>

>> >> >Acid, Kelp and a multi minerals. There has been lessening,

>>

>> >> >of those symptoms, but it continues. I am wondering if it is

>>

>> >> >possible for ES/EMF to cause damage to ion channels and

>>

>> >> >metabolizing pathways leading to inability to absorb nutrients

>>

>> >> >from foods? There are hypglycemic attacks, with normal

>>

>> >> >blood sugar level!! It does not exclude possibilities of hyperinsulnemia

>>

>> >> >etc...

>>

>> >> >

>>

>> >> >I came across a paper which mentioned EMF exposure causing diabetes

>>

>> >> >and who knows what other metabolic process which we are unable to

diagnose

>>

>> >> >for which there is no label yet!!

>>

>> >> >

>>

>> >> >Thanks

>>

>> >> >

>>

>> >> >Kookie

>>

>> >> >

>>

>> >> >

>>

>> >> >

>>

>> >> >

>>

>> >> >

>>

>> >>

>>

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I have suffered from extreme adrenal fatigue, almost recuperated/rebuilt after 4

years. Get adrenals and thyroid tested. Read the book on AF, I had

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from him as well. Please avoid Tulsi, it lowers cortisol.

From: thode <lizt777@...>

>esens

>Sent: Sunday, 14 August 2011, 0:03

>Subject: RE: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

>

>

>  

>

>

>Hi Kooky and all,

>Blood tests are notorious for being in accurate. Why? Because the medical

system keeps " changing " the levels that supposedly show what's normal and what

is NOT normal, or healthy.

>What this often translates to, is that by the time mainstream medicine

diagnoses someone's thyroid being out of whack, THEIR THRYOID HAS ALREADY HIT

ROCK BOTTOM....this is something you DON " T want. The lower that thryoid goes,

the harder it is to bring it back in line. Whereas if you catch it earlier, its

much easier to deal with.

>For those who really want to check their own thryoids, put a pen/pad of paper

by your bed, take your temperature every morning BEFORE you get out of bed. If

you are using a digital thermomneter, ignore the beeps and keep it in your mouth

under tongue, for 4 min. Do this for a week...and then average out your

temperatures. Add them all up, and divide by the number of days you took your

temp. Any temp UNDER 97.6 means the thyroid is OUT of balance. If it is OVER 99,

this means the thryoid is OVER active, they call this hyPER thyroidsim. Under

active is HYPO thryoidism.

>Do NOT Rely on blood test...This is called the Basal Temperature Test

and you can find it on line, by googling it.

>Oh I absolutely believe you that you are NOT having anxiety attacks. And

because the thryoid does have a huge role in the heart, it could well BE the

thryoid that is causing this...along with being exposed to high fields, you

never asnswered that question. Is this happening under certain conditons?

>Many people are unaware that both the thryoid and adrenals WORK together. So if

the adrenals are out of whack, it is common for the thryoid to be out of

balance, as well. And why this is important? Because those with adrenal isssues

who try to take Armour, or ect....if the adrenals are out of balance, stressed,

they don't make enough of the hormone to be able to USE the thyroid support.

That means the body is not able to metabolize the thryoid help because the

adrenals are so low, they are not making enough of the hormones that are

responsible for USING the thryoid hormones. So what happens is , the thryoid

hormones build up, you feel extremely crapppy, awful in some cases....until the

high levels of thryoid that the body is simply not able to metabolize, finally

work their way out of the body.

>So many who try the thryoid and don't have a positive experience, actually need

to support the adrenal glands. This is why I said first treat the adrenals, then

add in the thyroid support.

>Here are some common symptoms of an under active thryoid: brain fog, thin hair-

lifeless no body, thin eyebrows, vision trouble, digestive issues, puffy under

the eyes, bad periods, weight problems, bad memory, can't think of the " word "

you want to use, walk out the door, forget your keys , can't find your car in

the parking lot, can't remember what you did with whatever, trouble sleeping,

wake up tired, weirded out dreams, thin nails that break all the time, often

candida issues, dry skin...heart problems. (these are just a few)

>Adrenal: bruised look under eyes, low energy, aches and pains, allergies, low

physical body strenghth, very low patience, hypoglycemic, stand up too fast, get

dizzy, feel better in bottom half of day, wake up want something sugary,

exercise makes you more tired, if someone has a cold a mile away, you catch

it...low immunity,irregular pulse and/or low pulse....if severe, weight

decreases.....**These are just a few, notice how the symptoms OVER LAP?

>This is because the thryoid and adrenals are like best friends. When one goes

down, the other jumps in to help. If no one hears them screaming for

help....THEY BOTH GO DOWN.

>My friend took: for thyroid: 1) Iodine drops - Nascent Iodine. 2) Selenium,

Thryoid Helper from www.wellnessresources.com 3) Magnesium Chloride Oil from

Ancient MInerals --google Mark Sircus, Magnesium, Leptin and

Obesity.....excellent article! Also the company that sells Ancient Minerals

Magnesium, if you read Sircus's article, he has a coupon code, they are offering

the Magnesium at a good price this week. And a good Vitamin B-complex. For

adrenals, 1) raw glandulars 2) Holy Basil Tea or capsules from Organic India

(holy basil tea helps to regulate the adrenals), 3) Turmeric capsules also from

Organic India..**She is actually Diabetic, has been for years and was able to

get off of her meds, using diet to control, once she started taking supplements

to support both her thryoid and adrenals. She also deals with candida, and eats

no wheat, no sugar, but still uses her cell phone/and cordless

phone....unfortunately. She eats high quality protein like

almonds, which is important for low adrenals..protein when you first get up,

and a small amt before you go to bed.

>Let me clarify....many people mistakenly believe they are having anxiety

attacks, when the real culprit IS the thryoid, which controls the heart- and in

many cases, the adrenals are also low.

>In the beginning, she was VERY sensitive to almost everything she tried.

Because her thryoid and adrenals were so low. The IODINE we found for her, that

putting the drops right on the belly button, 2-3 drops, let it dry....enabled

her to be able to tolerate the Iodine drops. Her metabolism was very messed up

for along time. The adrenals regulate the body's blood sugar levels, by the time

the body goes into full diabetes, those poor adrenal glands have been pushed and

pushed to their limit.

>Lizzie

>

>

>

>

>

>From: calicocat477@...

>Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 11:06:02 -0700

>Subject: Re: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

>

>HI,

>

>I hope you find the supplements to help you feel better.

>

>Can you explain this type of therapy when you have time?

>

>http://www.medicalqigong.org/resources.htm#medical_qigong

>

>Kathy

>

>furstc0404@... wrote:

>Subject: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

>

>Hi Lizzie:

>

>Thanks for the info. Since receiving Medical Qi Gong from an

>

>excellent practitioner, there have been huge improvements

>

>in my symptoms, but for the last week or so, the heart spasms

>

>have been acute and severe!!

>

>I am NOT having anxiety attacks, in fact, I am calm when this happens. Not

panicky, and I usually feel so ill when it happens, I just sit it out...

>

>Sometimes, I continue with my activities.

>

>I am wondering if your friends described what I did, that is heart shaking,

heart spasms, irregular pulse, dizzy, but not panick, not stressed.

>

>The heart feels as if its vibrating as do muscles, literally?

>

>It it is, then quite rightly, it could by hypthyroidism, diabetes, or any

number of other medical problems.

>

>My thyroid test came back " normal " , my blood sugar level " normal "

>

>I was hypothryoid, unable to take Armour or Thyroxine. Recent tests for the

last six months show " normal " ...

>

>Why thyroid & adrenal support did she take?

>

>I read a published paper recently which mentions diabetes

>

>can be caused by EMF, in which case, I would postulate

>

>why not hypothyroidism??? It can cause so much damage,

>

>on all levels cascading in various symptoms for the individual.

>

>Thanks,

>

>Kookie

>

>

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http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps & field-keywords=+\

magnesium+oil

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>

>Sent: Sunday, 14 August 2011, 1:21

>Subject: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

>

>

>  

>

>

>

>There is only Magnesium Chloride by Bobby's Healthy Shop are

>you sure it was Amazon UK?

>

>

>> >>

>> >> >>

>> >>

>> >> >> You may want to look into supplementation to cure deficiency of Q10

Ubiquinol, creatine, carnosine

>> >>

>> >> >> http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0309174003001815

>> >>

>> >> >>

>> >>

>> >> >>

>> >>

>> >> >>

>> >>

>> >> >>

>> >>

>> >> >>

>> >>

>> >> >> >________________________________

>> >>

>> >> >> >From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@>

>> >>

>> >> >> >

>> >>

>> >> >> >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 15:53

>> >>

>> >> >> >Subject: Heart spasms and arrythmias

>> >>

>> >> >> >

>> >>

>> >> >> >

>> >>

>> >> >> > 

>> >>

>> >> >> >

>> >>

>> >> >> >

>> >>

>> >> >> >Has anyone heard of EMF/ES causing

>> >>

>> >> >> >acute electrical conductivity in the heart

>> >>

>> >> >> >leading to acute and severe spasms in the heart?

>> >>

>> >> >> >This is increasing, and becoming more frequent

>> >>

>> >> >> >and severe!!

>> >>

>> >> >> >

>> >>

>> >> >> >There is a sudden increase in arrythmias

>> >>

>> >> >> >and heart feels as in spasm, to the point

>> >>

>> >> >> >where the whole body trembles...

>> >>

>> >> >> >

>> >>

>> >> >> >There have been some other weird symptoms

>> >>

>> >> >> >where there is a need for large consumption of lamb!!

>> >>

>> >> >> >

>> >>

>> >> >> >Two days ago, against my own resolution not to take

>> >>

>> >> >> >vits and supps, I started on multi adding B1 and Panthotenic

>> >>

>> >> >> >Acid, Kelp and a multi minerals. There has been lessening,

>> >>

>> >> >> >of those symptoms, but it continues. I am wondering if it is

>> >>

>> >> >> >possible for ES/EMF to cause damage to ion channels and

>> >>

>> >> >> >metabolizing pathways leading to inability to absorb nutrients

>> >>

>> >> >> >from foods? There are hypglycemic attacks, with normal

>> >>

>> >> >> >blood sugar level!! It does not exclude possibilities of

hyperinsulnemia

>> >>

>> >> >> >etc...

>> >>

>> >> >> >

>> >>

>> >> >> >I came across a paper which mentioned EMF exposure causing diabetes

>> >>

>> >> >> >and who knows what other metabolic process which we are unable to

diagnose

>> >>

>> >> >> >for which there is no label yet!!

>> >>

>> >> >> >

>> >>

>> >> >> >Thanks

>> >>

>> >> >> >

>> >>

>> >> >> >Kookie

>> >>

>> >> >> >

>> >>

>> >> >> >

>> >>

>> >> >> >

>> >>

>> >> >> >

>> >>

>> >> >> >

>> >>

>> >> >>

>> >>

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Every magnesium oil product that is undiluted Zechstein material is the same.

From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@...>

>

>Sent: Sunday, 14 August 2011, 1:24

>Subject: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

>

>

>  

>

>

>Is this the one you bought:

>

>http://www.amazon.co.uk/BetterYou-Magnesium-Oil-Original-100ml/dp/B002VPDX4W/re\

f=pd_sim_sg_2

>

>

>> >>

>> >> >>

>> >>

>> >> >> You may want to look into supplementation to cure deficiency of Q10

Ubiquinol, creatine, carnosine

>> >>

>> >> >> http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0309174003001815

>> >>

>> >> >>

>> >>

>> >> >>

>> >>

>> >> >>

>> >>

>> >> >>

>> >>

>> >> >>

>> >>

>> >> >> >________________________________

>> >>

>> >> >> >From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@>

>> >>

>> >> >> >

>> >>

>> >> >> >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 15:53

>> >>

>> >> >> >Subject: Heart spasms and arrythmias

>> >>

>> >> >> >

>> >>

>> >> >> >

>> >>

>> >> >> > 

>> >>

>> >> >> >

>> >>

>> >> >> >

>> >>

>> >> >> >Has anyone heard of EMF/ES causing

>> >>

>> >> >> >acute electrical conductivity in the heart

>> >>

>> >> >> >leading to acute and severe spasms in the heart?

>> >>

>> >> >> >This is increasing, and becoming more frequent

>> >>

>> >> >> >and severe!!

>> >>

>> >> >> >

>> >>

>> >> >> >There is a sudden increase in arrythmias

>> >>

>> >> >> >and heart feels as in spasm, to the point

>> >>

>> >> >> >where the whole body trembles...

>> >>

>> >> >> >

>> >>

>> >> >> >There have been some other weird symptoms

>> >>

>> >> >> >where there is a need for large consumption of lamb!!

>> >>

>> >> >> >

>> >>

>> >> >> >Two days ago, against my own resolution not to take

>> >>

>> >> >> >vits and supps, I started on multi adding B1 and Panthotenic

>> >>

>> >> >> >Acid, Kelp and a multi minerals. There has been lessening,

>> >>

>> >> >> >of those symptoms, but it continues. I am wondering if it is

>> >>

>> >> >> >possible for ES/EMF to cause damage to ion channels and

>> >>

>> >> >> >metabolizing pathways leading to inability to absorb nutrients

>> >>

>> >> >> >from foods? There are hypglycemic attacks, with normal

>> >>

>> >> >> >blood sugar level!! It does not exclude possibilities of

hyperinsulnemia

>> >>

>> >> >> >etc...

>> >>

>> >> >> >

>> >>

>> >> >> >I came across a paper which mentioned EMF exposure causing diabetes

>> >>

>> >> >> >and who knows what other metabolic process which we are unable to

diagnose

>> >>

>> >> >> >for which there is no label yet!!

>> >>

>> >> >> >

>> >>

>> >> >> >Thanks

>> >>

>> >> >> >

>> >>

>> >> >> >Kookie

>> >>

>> >> >> >

>> >>

>> >> >> >

>> >>

>> >> >> >

>> >>

>> >> >> >

>> >>

>> >> >> >

>> >>

>> >> >>

>> >>

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Okay I made a mistake. I used kelp for few weeks w/o relying on enough

panthenine acid. I lost a few lbs  on kelp & then gained it back.

  In the beginning I ha a reaction to panthethine b/c

my adrenals were so low. I am a person w anxiety, who was afraid to help the

adrenals up

to possibly cause anxiety.

What is Tulsi?

Kathy

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had no idea Tulsi lowers cortisol

mine is already low..

> >Subject: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

> >

> >Hi Lizzie:

> >

> >Thanks for the info. Since receiving Medical Qi Gong from an

> >

> >excellent practitioner, there have been huge improvements

> >

> >in my symptoms, but for the last week or so, the heart spasms

> >

> >have been acute and severe!!

> >

> >I am NOT having anxiety attacks, in fact, I am calm when this happens. Not

panicky, and I usually feel so ill when it happens, I just sit it out...

> >

> >Sometimes, I continue with my activities.

> >

> >I am wondering if your friends described what I did, that is heart shaking,

heart spasms, irregular pulse, dizzy, but not panick, not stressed.

> >

> >The heart feels as if its vibrating as do muscles, literally?

> >

> >It it is, then quite rightly, it could by hypthyroidism, diabetes, or any

number of other medical problems.

> >

> >My thyroid test came back " normal " , my blood sugar level " normal "

> >

> >I was hypothryoid, unable to take Armour or Thyroxine. Recent tests for the

last six months show " normal " ...

> >

> >Why thyroid & adrenal support did she take?

> >

> >I read a published paper recently which mentions diabetes

> >

> >can be caused by EMF, in which case, I would postulate

> >

> >why not hypothyroidism??? It can cause so much damage,

> >

> >on all levels cascading in various symptoms for the individual.

> >

> >Thanks,

> >

> >Kookie

> >

> >

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If you cortisol is too low, supplement with Isocort while you rebuild adrenals

with nutrition and supplements. Can save you a lot of suffering. You can get

Isocort from iherb.com

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/isocort/

From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@...>

>

>Sent: Sunday, 14 August 2011, 1:34

>Subject: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

>

>

>  

>

>

>had no idea Tulsi lowers cortisol

>mine is already low..

>

>

>> >Subject: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

>> >

>> >Hi Lizzie:

>> >

>> >Thanks for the info. Since receiving Medical Qi Gong from an

>> >

>> >excellent practitioner, there have been huge improvements

>> >

>> >in my symptoms, but for the last week or so, the heart spasms

>> >

>> >have been acute and severe!!

>> >

>> >I am NOT having anxiety attacks, in fact, I am calm when this happens. Not

panicky, and I usually feel so ill when it happens, I just sit it out...

>> >

>> >Sometimes, I continue with my activities.

>> >

>> >I am wondering if your friends described what I did, that is heart shaking,

heart spasms, irregular pulse, dizzy, but not panick, not stressed.

>> >

>> >The heart feels as if its vibrating as do muscles, literally?

>> >

>> >It it is, then quite rightly, it could by hypthyroidism, diabetes, or any

number of other medical problems.

>> >

>> >My thyroid test came back " normal " , my blood sugar level " normal "

>> >

>> >I was hypothryoid, unable to take Armour or Thyroxine. Recent tests for the

last six months show " normal " ...

>> >

>> >Why thyroid & adrenal support did she take?

>> >

>> >I read a published paper recently which mentions diabetes

>> >

>> >can be caused by EMF, in which case, I would postulate

>> >

>> >why not hypothyroidism??? It can cause so much damage,

>> >

>> >on all levels cascading in various symptoms for the individual.

>> >

>> >Thanks,

>> >

>> >Kookie

>> >

>> >

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Great. Its terrific stuff. Will replenish magnesium levels like no other

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>Subject: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

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>Thanks, I ordered the Original Magnesium Joint

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Ubiquinol, creatine, carnosine

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>> >> >> >> >Subject: Heart spasms and arrythmias

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>> >> >> >> >acute electrical conductivity in the heart

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>> >> >> >> >leading to acute and severe spasms in the heart?

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>> >> >> >> >This is increasing, and becoming more frequent

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>> >> >> >> >and severe!!

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>> >> >> >> >There is a sudden increase in arrythmias

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>> >> >> >> >There have been some other weird symptoms

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>> >> >> >> >where there is a need for large consumption of lamb!!

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>> >> >> >> >Two days ago, against my own resolution not to take

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>> >> >> >> >vits and supps, I started on multi adding B1 and Panthotenic

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>> >> >> >> >Acid, Kelp and a multi minerals. There has been lessening,

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>> >> >> >> >of those symptoms, but it continues. I am wondering if it is

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>> >> >> >> >possible for ES/EMF to cause damage to ion channels and

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>> >> >> >> >metabolizing pathways leading to inability to absorb nutrients

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>> >> >> >> >from foods? There are hypglycemic attacks, with normal

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>> >> >> >> >blood sugar level!! It does not exclude possibilities of

hyperinsulnemia

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>> >> >> >> >I came across a paper which mentioned EMF exposure causing diabetes

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diagnose

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Tulsi is the Indian name for Holy Basil. I dont like pantetheine frome

xperience, it can push your adrenals too much, if the other B's are not

balanced, or if there are problems with hypothyroid. I prefer pantothenic acid.

From: KathyB <calicocat477@...>

>

>Sent: Sunday, 14 August 2011, 1:50

>Subject: Re: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

>

>

>  

>

>

>Okay I made a mistake. I used kelp for few weeks w/o relying on enough

>

>panthenine acid. I lost a few lbs  on kelp & then gained it back.

>

>  In the beginning I ha a reaction to panthethine b/c

>

>my adrenals were so low. I am a person w anxiety, who was afraid to help the

adrenals up

>to possibly cause anxiety.

>

>What is Tulsi?

>

>Kathy

>

>From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@...>

>Subject: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

>

> 

>

>had no idea Tulsi lowers cortisol

>

>mine is already low..

>

>

>

>> >Subject: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

>

>> >

>

>> >Hi Lizzie:

>

>> >

>

>> >Thanks for the info. Since receiving Medical Qi Gong from an

>

>> >

>

>> >excellent practitioner, there have been huge improvements

>

>> >

>

>> >in my symptoms, but for the last week or so, the heart spasms

>

>> >

>

>> >have been acute and severe!!

>

>> >

>

>> >I am NOT having anxiety attacks, in fact, I am calm when this happens. Not

panicky, and I usually feel so ill when it happens, I just sit it out...

>

>> >

>

>> >Sometimes, I continue with my activities.

>

>> >

>

>> >I am wondering if your friends described what I did, that is heart shaking,

heart spasms, irregular pulse, dizzy, but not panick, not stressed.

>

>> >

>

>> >The heart feels as if its vibrating as do muscles, literally?

>

>> >

>

>> >It it is, then quite rightly, it could by hypthyroidism, diabetes, or any

number of other medical problems.

>

>> >

>

>> >My thyroid test came back " normal " , my blood sugar level " normal "

>

>> >

>

>> >I was hypothryoid, unable to take Armour or Thyroxine. Recent tests for the

last six months show " normal " ...

>

>> >

>

>> >Why thyroid & adrenal support did she take?

>

>> >

>

>> >I read a published paper recently which mentions diabetes

>

>> >

>

>> >can be caused by EMF, in which case, I would postulate

>

>> >

>

>> >why not hypothyroidism??? It can cause so much damage,

>

>> >

>

>> >on all levels cascading in various symptoms for the individual.

>

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>> >Thanks,

>

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>> >Kookie

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Is it thyroid or adrenals that make you so tired you can hardly get out of bed?

I wake up & want to get up but it now takes my body time to be able to move.

Feel like you're awake  but not.

From: KathyB <calicocat477@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

Date: Saturday, August 13, 2011, 6:50 PM

 

Okay I made a mistake. I used kelp for few weeks w/o relying on enough

panthenine acid. I lost a few lbs  on kelp & then gained it back.

  In the beginning I ha a reaction to panthethine b/c

my adrenals were so low. I am a person w anxiety, who was afraid to help the

adrenals up

to possibly cause anxiety.

What is Tulsi?

Kathy

> From: thode <lizt777@...>

> >esens

> >Sent: Sunday, 14 August 2011, 0:03

> >Subject: RE: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

> >Oh I absolutely believe you that you are NOT having anxiety attacks. And

because the thryoid does have a huge role in the heart, it could well BE the

thryoid that is causing this...along with being exposed to high fields, you

never asnswered that question. Is this happening under certain conditons?

> >Many people are unaware that both the thryoid and adrenals WORK together. So

if the adrenals are out of whack, it is common for the thryoid to be out of

balance, as well. And why this is important? Because those with adrenal isssues

who try to take Armour, or ect....if the adrenals are out of balance, stressed,

they don't make enough of the hormone to be able to USE the thyroid support.

That means the body is not able to metabolize the thryoid help because the

adrenals are so low, they are not making enough of the hormones that are

responsible for USING the thryoid hormones. So what happens is , the thryoid

hormones build up, you feel extremely crapppy, awful in some cases....until the

high levels of thryoid that the body is simply not able to metabolize, finally

work their way out of the body.

> >So many who try the thryoid and don't have a positive experience, actually

need to support the adrenal glands. This is why I said first treat the adrenals,

then add in the thyroid support.

> >Here are some common symptoms of an under active thryoid:

brain fog, thin hair- lifeless no body, thin eyebrows, vision trouble, digestive

issues, puffy under the eyes, bad periods, weight problems, bad memory, can't

think of the " word " you want to use, walk out the door, forget your keys , can't

find your car in the parking lot, can't remember what you did with whatever,

trouble sleeping, wake up tired, weirded out dreams, thin nails that break all

the time, often candida issues, dry skin...heart problems. (these are just a

few)

> >Adrenal: bruised look under eyes, low energy, aches and pains, allergies, low

physical body strenghth, very low patience, hypoglycemic, stand up too fast, get

dizzy, feel better in bottom half of day, wake up want something sugary,

exercise makes you more tired, if someone has a cold a mile away, you catch

it...low immunity,irregular pulse and/or low pulse....if severe, weight

decreases.....**These are just a few, notice how the symptoms OVER LAP?

> >This is because the thryoid and adrenals are like best friends. When one goes

down, the other jumps in to help. If no one hears them screaming for

help....THEY BOTH GO DOWN.

> >My friend took: for thyroid: 1) Iodine drops - Nascent Iodine. 2) Selenium,

Thryoid Helper from www.wellnessresources.com 3) Magnesium Chloride Oil from

Ancient MInerals --google Mark Sircus, Magnesium, Leptin and

Obesity.....excellent article! Also the company that sells Ancient Minerals

Magnesium, if you read Sircus's article, he has a coupon code, they are offering

the Magnesium at a good price this week. And a good Vitamin B-complex. For

adrenals, 1) raw glandulars 2) Holy Basil Tea or capsules from Organic India

(holy basil tea helps to regulate the adrenals), 3) Turmeric capsules also from

Organic India..**She is actually Diabetic, has been for years and was able to

get off of her meds, using diet to control, once she started taking supplements

to support both her thryoid and adrenals. She also deals with candida, and eats

no wheat, no sugar, but still uses her cell phone/and cordless

phone....unfortunately. She eats high quality protein like

> almonds, which is important for low adrenals..protein when you first get up,

and a small amt before you go to bed.

> >Let me clarify....many people mistakenly believe they are having anxiety

attacks, when the real culprit IS the thryoid, which controls the heart- and in

many cases, the adrenals are also low.

> >In the beginning, she was VERY sensitive to almost everything she tried.

Because her thryoid and adrenals were so low. The IODINE we found for her, that

putting the drops right on the belly button, 2-3 drops, let it dry....enabled

her to be able to tolerate the Iodine drops. Her metabolism was very messed up

for along time. The adrenals regulate the body's blood sugar levels, by the time

the body goes into full diabetes, those poor adrenal glands have been pushed and

pushed to their limit.

> >Lizzie

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >From: calicocat477@...

> >Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 11:06:02 -0700

> >Subject: Re: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

> >

> >HI,

> >

> >I hope you find the supplements to help you feel better.

> >

> >Can you explain this type of therapy when you have time?

> >

> >http://www.medicalqigong.org/resources.htm#medical_qigong

> >

> >Kathy

> >

> >furstc0404@... wrote:

> >Subject: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

> >

> >Hi Lizzie:

> >

> >Thanks for the info. Since receiving Medical Qi Gong from an

> >

> >excellent practitioner, there have been huge improvements

> >

> >in my symptoms, but for the last week or so, the heart spasms

> >

> >have been acute and severe!!

> >

> >I am NOT having anxiety attacks, in fact, I am calm when this happens. Not

panicky, and I usually feel so ill when it happens, I just sit it out...

> >

> >Sometimes, I continue with my activities.

> >

> >I am wondering if your friends described what I did, that is heart shaking,

heart spasms, irregular pulse, dizzy, but not panick, not stressed.

> >

> >The heart feels as if its vibrating as do muscles, literally?

> >

> >It it is, then quite rightly, it could by hypthyroidism, diabetes, or any

number of other medical problems.

> >

> >My thyroid test came back " normal " , my blood sugar level " normal "

> >

> >I was hypothryoid, unable to take Armour or Thyroxine. Recent tests for the

last six months show " normal " ...

> >

> >Why thyroid & adrenal support did she take?

> >

> >I read a published paper recently which mentions diabetes

> >

> >can be caused by EMF, in which case, I would postulate

> >

> >why not hypothyroidism??? It can cause so much damage,

> >

> >on all levels cascading in various symptoms for the individual.

> >

> >Thanks,

> >

> >Kookie

> >

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We used Basil spice for the last few mos. So, I've been pushing the adrenals. I

took one in the car & I felt a bit shaky. Now I' can hardly get out of bed.

Pushing the thyroid down.

I'll get  pantothenic M b's are out of wack, w the b-12 need. I have been

loosing the word I want to use all week.

Kathy

From: Ole Alstrup <alstrup@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

T

 

Tulsi is the Indian name for Holy Basil. I dont like pantetheine frome

xperience, it can push your adrenals too much, if the other B's are not

balanced, or if there are problems with hypothyroid. I prefer pantothenic acid.

From: KathyB <calicocat477@...>

>

>Sent: Sunday, 14 August 2011, 1:50

>Subject: Re: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

>

>

>  

>

>

>Okay I made a mistake. I used kelp for few weeks w/o relying on enough

>

>panthenine acid. I lost a few lbs  on kelp & then gained it back.

>

>  In the beginning I ha a reaction to panthethine b/c

>

>my adrenals were so low. I am a person w anxiety, who was afraid to help the

adrenals up

>to possibly cause anxiety.

>

>What is Tulsi?

>

>Kathy

>

>From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@...>

>Subject: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

>

> 

>

>had no idea Tulsi lowers cortisol

>

>mine is already low..

>

>

>

>> >Subject: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

>

>> >

>

>> >Hi Lizzie:

>

>> >

>

>> >Thanks for the info. Since receiving Medical Qi Gong from an

>

>> >

>

>> >excellent practitioner, there have been huge improvements

>

>> >

>

>> >in my symptoms, but for the last week or so, the heart spasms

>

>> >

>

>> >have been acute and severe!!

>

>> >

>

>> >I am NOT having anxiety attacks, in fact, I am calm when this happens. Not

panicky, and I usually feel so ill when it happens, I just sit it out...

>

>> >

>

>> >Sometimes, I continue with my activities.

>

>> >

>

>> >I am wondering if your friends described what I did, that is heart shaking,

heart spasms, irregular pulse, dizzy, but not panick, not stressed.

>

>> >

>

>> >The heart feels as if its vibrating as do muscles, literally?

>

>> >

>

>> >It it is, then quite rightly, it could by hypthyroidism, diabetes, or any

number of other medical problems.

>

>> >

>

>> >My thyroid test came back " normal " , my blood sugar level " normal "

>

>> >

>

>> >I was hypothryoid, unable to take Armour or Thyroxine. Recent tests for the

last six months show " normal " ...

>

>> >

>

>> >Why thyroid & adrenal support did she take?

>

>> >

>

>> >I read a published paper recently which mentions diabetes

>

>> >

>

>> >can be caused by EMF, in which case, I would postulate

>

>> >

>

>> >why not hypothyroidism??? It can cause so much damage,

>

>> >

>

>> >on all levels cascading in various symptoms for the individual.

>

>> >

>

>> >Thanks,

>

>> >

>

>> >Kookie

>

>> >

>

>> >

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You can get some good help from Carol W. - moderator and educator-in-residence

From: KathyB <calicocat477@...>

>

>Sent: Sunday, 14 August 2011, 2:01

>Subject: Re: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

>

>

>  

>

>

>We used Basil spice for the last few mos. So, I've been pushing the adrenals. I

took one in the car & I felt a bit shaky. Now I' can hardly get out of bed.

Pushing the thyroid down.

>

>I'll get  pantothenic M b's are out of wack, w the b-12 need. I have been

loosing the word I want to use all week.

>

>Kathy

>From: Ole Alstrup <alstrup@...>

>Subject: Re: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

>T

>

> 

>

>Tulsi is the Indian name for Holy Basil. I dont like pantetheine frome

xperience, it can push your adrenals too much, if the other B's are not

>

>balanced, or if there are problems with hypothyroid. I prefer pantothenic

acid.

>

>From: KathyB <calicocat477@...>

>

>>

>

>>Sent: Sunday, 14 August 2011, 1:50

>

>>Subject: Re: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

>

>>

>

>>

>

>>  

>

>>

>

>>

>

>>Okay I made a mistake. I used kelp for few weeks w/o relying on enough

>

>>

>

>>panthenine acid. I lost a few lbs  on kelp & then gained it back.

>

>>

>

>>  In the beginning I ha a reaction to panthethine b/c

>

>>

>

>>my adrenals were so low. I am a person w anxiety, who was afraid to help the

adrenals up

>

>>to possibly cause anxiety.

>

>>

>

>>What is Tulsi?

>

>>

>

>>Kathy

>

>>

>

>>From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@...>

>

>>Subject: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

>

>>

>

>> 

>

>>

>

>>had no idea Tulsi lowers cortisol

>

>>

>

>>mine is already low..

>

>>

>

>>

>

>>

>

>>> >Subject: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

>

>>

>

>>> >

>

>>

>

>>> >Hi Lizzie:

>

>>

>

>>> >

>

>>

>

>>> >Thanks for the info. Since receiving Medical Qi Gong from an

>

>>

>

>>> >

>

>>

>

>>> >excellent practitioner, there have been huge improvements

>

>>

>

>>> >

>

>>

>

>>> >in my symptoms, but for the last week or so, the heart spasms

>

>>

>

>>> >

>

>>

>

>>> >have been acute and severe!!

>

>>

>

>>> >

>

>>

>

>>> >I am NOT having anxiety attacks, in fact, I am calm when this happens. Not

panicky, and I usually feel so ill when it happens, I just sit it out...

>

>>

>

>>> >

>

>>

>

>>> >Sometimes, I continue with my activities.

>

>>

>

>>> >

>

>>

>

>>> >I am wondering if your friends described what I did, that is heart shaking,

heart spasms, irregular pulse, dizzy, but not panick, not stressed.

>

>>

>

>>> >

>

>>

>

>>> >The heart feels as if its vibrating as do muscles, literally?

>

>>

>

>>> >

>

>>

>

>>> >It it is, then quite rightly, it could by hypthyroidism, diabetes, or any

number of other medical problems.

>

>>

>

>>> >

>

>>

>

>>> >My thyroid test came back " normal " , my blood sugar level " normal "

>

>>

>

>>> >

>

>>

>

>>> >I was hypothryoid, unable to take Armour or Thyroxine. Recent tests for the

last six months show " normal " ...

>

>>

>

>>> >

>

>>

>

>>> >Why thyroid & adrenal support did she take?

>

>>

>

>>> >

>

>>

>

>>> >I read a published paper recently which mentions diabetes

>

>>

>

>>> >

>

>>

>

>>> >can be caused by EMF, in which case, I would postulate

>

>>

>

>>> >

>

>>

>

>>> >why not hypothyroidism??? It can cause so much damage,

>

>>

>

>>> >

>

>>

>

>>> >on all levels cascading in various symptoms for the individual.

>

>>

>

>>> >

>

>>

>

>>> >Thanks,

>

>>

>

>>> >

>

>>

>

>>> >Kookie

>

>>

>

>>> >

>

>>

>

>>> >

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Thanks so much. I got more going on than that though. I have Lyme or MS.

Kathy

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Wow....what a coincidence!

Do you mean to tell me that someone made up a syndrome for something that

already exists by a different name?

All those symptoms: night blindness (thryoid), hearing (adrenal), balance and

coordination problems (thryoid), dry skin (thyroid), abnormal heartbeat/arthymia

(thyroid), digestive issues (thryoid)......are classic textbook symptoms of

thryoid imbalances. But hey, don't take my word for this, read it from an

expert.

The following book is one of the best books written on the thyroid and adrenal

issues. This dr from the UK, has been around for decades...I have a copy of his

original book, which he has since changed the name to the below title. HIs

original book was titled: THE GREAT THYROID SCANDAL AND HOW TO SURVIVE IT.

Check it out people....you will find the same symptoms listed in this book,

written A LONG TIME AGO. And this guy KNOWS his stuff!! And there are many, many

more dr's today- most who are not strictly mainstream, but a blend bwte

alternative and mainstream..who's articles/books echo the very same symptoms.

Different countries....same information.

See for yourself...and save yourself alot of grief. Most people don't have any

idea just how important the thyroid and adrenal glands REALLY are.

Lizzie

Amazon.com: Your Thyroid and How to Keep It Healthy ...

www.amazon.com › Books › Health, Mind & Body - CachedSimilar

9 reviews - $29.99 - In stockDr Durrant-Peatfield covers this crucial subject

completely and with perfect clarity ... I recommend to you the book by Barry

Durrant Peatfield, " Your Thyroid and ...

From: evie15422@...

Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 13:29:19 -0700

Subject: Re: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

Retinitis pigmentosa is classed as an ion channel disease, Kathy. So it is also

something which I would think people with tight junction permeability could have

issues with. [Emfs can cause tj permeability.]

Diane

From: KathyB <calicocat477@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

Date: Saturday, August 13, 2011, 3:29 PM

http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/refsum/refsum.htm

Has anyone looked into this possibility: Refsum or ARD?

Increasing night blindness due to degeneration of the

retina (retinitis pigmentosa). If the disease progresses symptoms can be:

deafness, loss of the sense of smell

(anosmia), problems with balance and

coordination (ataxia), dry and scaly skin (ichthyosis), and heartbeat

abnormalities (cardiac

arrhythmias).

Those w this lack the enzyme to break down

foods that contain phytanic acid, including

dairy products; beef and

lamb; and fatty fish such as tuna, cod, and haddock.

I'd like to look into it. Both my son & I noticed burning after eating beef. I

also noticed it

from a vitamin that contains cod & haddock. Treatment is diet changes. Some may

need a plasma exchange.

Untreated, ARD can lead to sudden death caused by heartbeat abnormalities.

Kathy

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Hi,

Wouldn't it be nice if it was that simple..just take zinc?

The reality is, low in one mineral is usually low on others as well.

So, the question is: what in the body controls how we absorb

and digest nutrients? Answer: the thyroid. People, while that Thyroid gland

may be very small...but it is foolish to discount how VERY powerful

that little gland really is.....and if the thryoid isn't working right,

nothing in the body will work right.

Those fissures are very painful...I know, I used to get them alot.

Waking up ravenous...starving sounds like Thryoid/Adrenal. Thryoid

regulates metabolism, adrenals regulate blood sugar levels.

Thryoid regulates the heart. My bet is on the thryoid...A really good book

to read is written by: Dr. Barry Durrant-Peatsfield, (he's from the UK)

I have his original book, same book, american publishers had him change the

title-

(The Great Thryoid Scandal and HOw to Survive It- was the original title)

**As for cracks on hands...I think this is just one of many signs of candida.

I found using: Sea Buckthorn OIl (www.mountainroseherbs.com ) and an essential

oil blend called: Melrose (www.youngliving.com)

mixed with coconut oil helped heal these very painful cracks. Sea Buckthorn Oil

is called

the Omega 7. Originally I had an organic lotion from Aubrey Organics called: SEa

Buckthorn

& cucumber with Ester-C that I mixed with the Melrose Oil. But that lotion is

very expensive..

so I decided to try my own little mixture, seeing that I was paying 16. dollars

for a 4 fl oz

of the Aubreys lotion. You do have to warm up the coconut oil, so an easier way

to do this

is to use organic Olive Oil, or Apricot Oil, and mix in 2 oz of Olive OIl, to 5

drops each of

the Melrose and Sea Buckthorn Oil. Rub this mixture on your hands and before

bed,

put some on, and put a cotton pair of ankle socks or cotton gloves on your

hands.

I found that this mixture, because the Melrose Oil is a very strong

Anti-Fungal..

this is what is needed to combat candida.

IN a pinch, pure Lavender Essential Oil, a few drps right on the heart, will

make the

arthymia stop and is safe. My daughter s/times gets this heart thing, when

exposed to

emf's. You can get the Lavender Oil from youngliving, as well.

This will help the symptoms...the cause is more then likely the thryoid.

Many who have their blood tested for thryoid are told they are " normal " >

Look up: The BAsal Temperature TEst....this is somethng you can do

at home, for free, that will tell you if your thryoid is out of balance. No

doctors,

no fees, just a pad of paper, a pen, a thermometer, and the willingness to

take your temp before you get up every morning, for a week, and then average

out your temp. Anythng under 97.6 means the thyroid is not working right.

**I have also mentioned in other posts the importance of Magnesium and heart

health. Soaking in

a Magnesium bath, or doing foot soaks bypasses the liver having to digest yet

another

supplement...and for many, typical pill forms of magnesium are not easily

absorbed, and gives

people problems. Absorbing thru the skin, called: trandermal therapy, works

quite well,

as the SKIN is the body's largest organ.

Blessings of Many,

Lizzie

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From: snoshoe_2@...

Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 16:19:55 +0000

Subject: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

Zinc deficiency can cause exactly that.

>

>

> Its very difficult in this case to explain my cluster of symptoms

> due to restrictive socialized health system in the UK. GPs

> refuse a glucose challenge test, because my blood sugar level

> show normal despite the fact that it is often normal for various

> type of metabolic insulin disfunction such as hyperinsulemia for

> eg..

>

> The hunger pangs with arrythmias worse in the mornings could be

> diabetes, or some other metabolic dysfunction, but for sure, there is

> also deficiency in nutrients due to a very limited diet for many years.

>

> Those severe and acute hunger pangs could be a number of things.

> I will need to work this out without much help from doctors.

>

> The fissures on my fingers are signs of.....??????

> Not caused by dry crackling skin, its spontaneous small

> fissures, one or two, painful but am more worried about the

> cause. At one point I had those on my heels too, but more

> so on fingers.

>

> Anyone knows???

>

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