Re: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I was wondering if electrical sensitivity and thyroid problems are strongly

related. I have a hyperthyroid and at one time it was severe and then moderate

and then severely hypo. Have others experienced these thyroid problems?

I have found the Thyroid Patient Advocacy to be very informative and they also

recommend the book you mentioned.

Thanks for reading.

Cheryl

From: thode <lizt777@...>

Subject: RE: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

esens

Date: Sunday, August 14, 2011, 10:49 AM

Hi,

Wouldn't it be nice if it was that simple..just take zinc?

The reality is, low in one mineral is usually low  on others as well.

So, the question is: what in the body controls how we absorb

and digest nutrients? Answer: the thyroid. People, while that Thyroid gland

may be very small...but it is foolish to discount how VERY powerful

that little gland really is.....and if the thryoid isn't working right,

nothing in the body will work right.

Those fissures are very painful...I know, I used to get them alot.

Waking up ravenous...starving sounds like Thryoid/Adrenal. Thryoid

regulates metabolism, adrenals regulate blood sugar levels.

Thryoid regulates the heart. My bet is on the thryoid...A really good book

to read is written by: Dr. Barry Durrant-Peatsfield, (he's from the UK)

I have his original book, same book, american publishers had him change the

title-

(The Great Thryoid Scandal and HOw to Survive It- was the original title)

**As for cracks on hands...I think this is just one of many signs of candida.

I found using: Sea Buckthorn OIl (www.mountainroseherbs.com ) and an essential

oil blend called: Melrose (www.youngliving.com)

mixed with coconut oil helped heal these very painful cracks. Sea Buckthorn Oil

is called

the Omega 7. Originally I had an organic lotion from Aubrey Organics called: SEa

Buckthorn

& cucumber with Ester-C that I mixed with the Melrose Oil. But that lotion is

very expensive..

so I decided to try my own little mixture, seeing that I was paying 16. dollars

for a 4 fl oz

of the Aubreys lotion. You do have to warm up the coconut oil, so an easier way

to do this

is to use organic Olive Oil, or Apricot Oil, and mix in 2 oz of Olive OIl, to 5

drops each of

the Melrose and Sea Buckthorn Oil. Rub this mixture on your hands and before

bed,

put some on, and put a cotton pair of ankle socks or cotton gloves on your

hands.

I found that this mixture, because the Melrose Oil is a very strong

Anti-Fungal..

this is what is needed to combat candida.

IN a pinch, pure Lavender Essential Oil, a few drps right on the heart, will

make the

arthymia stop and is safe. My daughter s/times gets this heart thing, when

exposed to

emf's. You can get the Lavender Oil from youngliving, as well.

This will help the symptoms...the cause is more then likely the thryoid.

Many who have their blood tested for thryoid are told they are " normal " >

Look up: The BAsal Temperature TEst....this is somethng you can do

at home, for free, that will tell you if your thryoid is out of balance. No

doctors,

no fees, just a pad of paper, a pen, a thermometer, and the willingness to

take your temp before you get up every morning, for a week, and then average

out your temp. Anythng under 97.6 means the thyroid is not working right.

**I have also mentioned in other posts the importance of Magnesium and heart

health. Soaking in

a Magnesium bath, or doing foot soaks bypasses the liver having to digest yet

another

supplement...and for many, typical pill forms of magnesium are not easily

absorbed, and gives

people problems. Absorbing thru the skin, called: trandermal therapy, works

quite well,

as the SKIN is the body's largest organ.

Blessings of Many,

Lizzie

Amazon.com: Your Thyroid and How to Keep It Healthy ... 

www.amazon.com › Books › Health, Mind & Body - CachedSimilar

9 reviews - $29.99 - In stockDr Durrant-Peatfield covers this crucial subject

completely and with perfect clarity ... I recommend to you the book by Barry

Durrant Peatfield, " Your Thyroid and

From: snoshoe_2@...

Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 16:19:55 +0000

Subject: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

 

Zinc deficiency can cause exactly that.

>

>

> Its very difficult in this case to explain my cluster of symptoms

> due to restrictive socialized health system in the UK. GPs

> refuse a glucose challenge test, because my blood sugar level

> show normal despite the fact that it is often normal for various

> type of metabolic insulin disfunction such as hyperinsulemia for

> eg..

>

> The hunger pangs with arrythmias worse in the mornings could be

> diabetes, or some other metabolic dysfunction, but for sure, there is

> also deficiency in nutrients due to a very limited diet for many years.

>

> Those severe and acute hunger pangs could be a number of things.

> I will need to work this out without much help from doctors.

>

> The fissures on my fingers are signs of.....??????

> Not caused by dry crackling skin, its spontaneous small

> fissures, one or two, painful but am more worried about the

> cause. At one point I had those on my heels too, but more

> so on fingers.

>

> Anyone knows???

>

                         

[Guest guest]

HI,

You know, that is a really good question. Here's my thoughts. If a hundred

people in a room, all decided to take the BArnes Basal Temp Test...I wouldn't be

at all surprised if 90 of them showed an out of balance thryoid! Many toxins

effect the thryoid, from mercury in fillings, mercury in seafood, fluoride in

water/juice/toothpaste..ect, prescriptions medications are 90 percent fluoride,

then you have dirty electricity, emf's, ....bottom line? It would be the " norm "

today to have a thryoid issue. And as to being HyPER thryoid, which is an over

active thryoid..this is just as dangerous as having an under active thryoid.

Here's why. When a thryoid is over active, it is still a symptom of the thryoid

being out of balance. The damage to the body, to how the body regulates, may be

to the other end..where over thryoid usually means people are always HOT...but

its still the same problem. Those with over active thryoids can and do have

heart issues, weight issues, vision problems as with graves disease, ...

I don't think having a thryoid issue makes people more susceptible to being ES.

What I do think is that those who have thryoid issues- who are NOT sensitive to

emf's, usually have OTHER problems, or it could very well be, that they just

don't SEE the connection that WE see. I know people who are very sensitive to

emf's...they just blow offf the heada ches and take motrin..they blame it on

stress....they get aches, they blame it on the weather, on old injuries...the

list of the ways people rationaize this stuff, is too long to write!

Something else...I see a thryoid being over active as a common first stage to

thryoid issues. I've seen people who have graves or over active, stay in this

cycle for years...its like the gear gets stuck. And I have seen these people

eventually go from having an over active thryoid, to an UNDER active thyroid.

The people who I " ve seen who didn't appear to go thru that first stage of having

an Over active thyroid, had low adrenal issues. The low adrenal issues combined

with thryoid issues, gave them low energy, all of the symtoms of both low

thryoid and low adrenals..severe low adrenals usually ;means thin people- skinny

people...people with mild adrenal and underactive thryoids usually gain weight.

But all of them usually share some common problems, like: allergies, thin hair,

bruised skin under eyes or puffy under eyes, digestive problems, candida, low

body strenght, clumsiness, vision problems/hearing problems/ low lidido...except

in cases of over active thryoid, the libido can be on over drive....the opposite

of low thryoid, where the libido is like gone...

Ever see people who look like they OVER plucked their eyebrows? LIke the last

half is missing? Those are severe low low thryoid cases! Ever see people with

bruises under their eyes? Those are adrenal cases.

The thryoid can YO YO, back and forth. This is the thryoid and adrenals trying

very very hard to regulate. The take home message is: something/or things are

deeply stressing out this gland, which is a vital part of the immune system. The

body cannot live without these two glands...that is HOW important they are to

health.

It doesn't mean that emf's won't effect us, if these glands are working

right...but it can mean the difference between being able to function quite

well...or being in misery most of the time.

Some believe that healthy bodies are reacting appropiately to nasty toxins like

wireless radiation.

There is a Dr Hal Huggins, who wrote a book on mercury fillings...(the book is

called: It's All In Your Head " ) This man staged the first of many fights with

the fda over mercury in silver fillings..he is an expert in this.

Anyway, he has a clinic in I think New Mexico..his assistant told me that they

believe a healthy body is supposed to react to toxins- be it emf's or whatever

the source

....and that those who do not react..are too toxic. When it comes right down to

it, there are 2 things that cause dis-ease. Toxic overload & Nutritional

Deficiencies.

So did you order the book? I read that book years ago and so many LIGHTS went ON

for me.

I now have many friends who have ordered that book....

Lizzie

From: cheryl_griffing@...

Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 11:09:54 -0700

Subject: RE: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

Hi ,

I was wondering if electrical sensitivity and thyroid problems are strongly

related. I have a hyperthyroid and at one time it was severe and then moderate

and then severely hypo. Have others experienced these thyroid problems?

I have found the Thyroid Patient Advocacy to be very informative and they also

recommend the book you mentioned.

Thanks for reading.

Cheryl

From: thode <lizt777@...>

Subject: RE: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

esens

Date: Sunday, August 14, 2011, 10:49 AM

Hi,

Wouldn't it be nice if it was that simple..just take zinc?

The reality is, low in one mineral is usually low on others as well.

So, the question is: what in the body controls how we absorb

and digest nutrients? Answer: the thyroid. People, while that Thyroid gland

may be very small...but it is foolish to discount how VERY powerful

that little gland really is.....and if the thryoid isn't working right,

nothing in the body will work right.

Those fissures are very painful...I know, I used to get them alot.

Waking up ravenous...starving sounds like Thryoid/Adrenal. Thryoid

regulates metabolism, adrenals regulate blood sugar levels.

Thryoid regulates the heart. My bet is on the thryoid...A really good book

to read is written by: Dr. Barry Durrant-Peatsfield, (he's from the UK)

I have his original book, same book, american publishers had him change the

title-

(The Great Thryoid Scandal and HOw to Survive It- was the original title)

**As for cracks on hands...I think this is just one of many signs of candida.

I found using: Sea Buckthorn OIl (www.mountainroseherbs.com ) and an essential

oil blend called: Melrose (www.youngliving.com)

mixed with coconut oil helped heal these very painful cracks. Sea Buckthorn Oil

is called

the Omega 7. Originally I had an organic lotion from Aubrey Organics called: SEa

Buckthorn

& cucumber with Ester-C that I mixed with the Melrose Oil. But that lotion is

very expensive..

so I decided to try my own little mixture, seeing that I was paying 16. dollars

for a 4 fl oz

of the Aubreys lotion. You do have to warm up the coconut oil, so an easier way

to do this

is to use organic Olive Oil, or Apricot Oil, and mix in 2 oz of Olive OIl, to 5

drops each of

the Melrose and Sea Buckthorn Oil. Rub this mixture on your hands and before

bed,

put some on, and put a cotton pair of ankle socks or cotton gloves on your

hands.

I found that this mixture, because the Melrose Oil is a very strong

Anti-Fungal..

this is what is needed to combat candida.

IN a pinch, pure Lavender Essential Oil, a few drps right on the heart, will

make the

arthymia stop and is safe. My daughter s/times gets this heart thing, when

exposed to

emf's. You can get the Lavender Oil from youngliving, as well.

This will help the symptoms...the cause is more then likely the thryoid.

Many who have their blood tested for thryoid are told they are " normal " >

Look up: The BAsal Temperature TEst....this is somethng you can do

at home, for free, that will tell you if your thryoid is out of balance. No

doctors,

no fees, just a pad of paper, a pen, a thermometer, and the willingness to

take your temp before you get up every morning, for a week, and then average

out your temp. Anythng under 97.6 means the thyroid is not working right.

**I have also mentioned in other posts the importance of Magnesium and heart

health. Soaking in

a Magnesium bath, or doing foot soaks bypasses the liver having to digest yet

another

supplement...and for many, typical pill forms of magnesium are not easily

absorbed, and gives

people problems. Absorbing thru the skin, called: trandermal therapy, works

quite well,

as the SKIN is the body's largest organ.

Blessings of Many,

Lizzie

Amazon.com: Your Thyroid and How to Keep It Healthy ...

www.amazon.com › Books › Health, Mind & Body - CachedSimilar

9 reviews - $29.99 - In stockDr Durrant-Peatfield covers this crucial subject

completely and with perfect clarity ... I recommend to you the book by Barry

Durrant Peatfield, " Your Thyroid and

From: snoshoe_2@...

Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 16:19:55 +0000

Subject: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

Zinc deficiency can cause exactly that.

>

>

> Its very difficult in this case to explain my cluster of symptoms

> due to restrictive socialized health system in the UK. GPs

> refuse a glucose challenge test, because my blood sugar level

> show normal despite the fact that it is often normal for various

> type of metabolic insulin disfunction such as hyperinsulemia for

> eg..

>

> The hunger pangs with arrythmias worse in the mornings could be

> diabetes, or some other metabolic dysfunction, but for sure, there is

> also deficiency in nutrients due to a very limited diet for many years.

>

> Those severe and acute hunger pangs could be a number of things.

> I will need to work this out without much help from doctors.

>

> The fissures on my fingers are signs of.....??????

> Not caused by dry crackling skin, its spontaneous small

> fissures, one or two, painful but am more worried about the

> cause. At one point I had those on my heels too, but more

> so on fingers.

>

> Anyone knows???

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Cheryl,

I have also had the same experience--hypothyroid on and off.  I finally tracked

that down to eating too many soy products.  Soy products (and various other

things) interfere with thyroid function. 

As to what is saying, tho, we do often need extra nutrients to help

our thyroids, even when we are getting enough iodine.  The same is true of our

adrenals.  I personally cannot use iodine directly; all celiacs are intolerant

of iodine.  I can once in awhile put a bit of potassium iodide in 16 oz of

water (2 or 3 drops) and drink it.  However, if I use this on an on-going

basis, I end up with rusty palms and feet, and feel ill.  I also get rusty

palms and feet from kelp.  Cheryl, if you are gluten-intolerant, your thyroid

can often go off and on like that.  Just an idea to check, if you haven't

yet. 

Bless you,

Diane

From: thode <lizt777@...>

Subject: RE: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

esens

Date: Sunday, August 14, 2011, 10:49 AM

Hi,

Wouldn't it be nice if it was that simple..just take zinc?

The reality is, low in one mineral is usually low  on others as well.

So, the question is: what in the body controls how we absorb

and digest nutrients? Answer: the thyroid. People, while that Thyroid gland

may be very small...but it is foolish to discount how VERY powerful

that little gland really is.....and if the thryoid isn't working right,

nothing in the body will work right.

Those fissures are very painful...I know, I used to get them alot.

Waking up ravenous...starving sounds like Thryoid/Adrenal. Thryoid

regulates metabolism, adrenals regulate blood sugar levels.

Thryoid regulates the heart. My bet is on the thryoid...A really good book

to read is written by: Dr. Barry Durrant-Peatsfield, (he's from the UK)

I have his original book, same book, american publishers had him change the

title-

(The Great Thryoid Scandal and HOw to Survive It- was the original title)

**As for cracks on hands...I think this is just one of many signs of candida.

I found using: Sea Buckthorn OIl (www.mountainroseherbs.com ) and an essential

oil blend called: Melrose (www.youngliving.com)

mixed with coconut oil helped heal these very painful cracks. Sea Buckthorn Oil

is called

the Omega 7. Originally I had an organic lotion from Aubrey Organics called: SEa

Buckthorn

& cucumber with Ester-C that I mixed with the Melrose Oil. But that lotion is

very expensive..

so I decided to try my own little mixture, seeing that I was paying 16. dollars

for a 4 fl oz

of the Aubreys lotion. You do have to warm up the coconut oil, so an easier way

to do this

is to use organic Olive Oil, or Apricot Oil, and mix in 2 oz of Olive OIl, to 5

drops each of

the Melrose and Sea Buckthorn Oil. Rub this mixture on your hands and before

bed,

put some on, and put a cotton pair of ankle socks or cotton gloves on your

hands.

I found that this mixture, because the Melrose Oil is a very strong

Anti-Fungal..

this is what is needed to combat candida.

IN a pinch, pure Lavender Essential Oil, a few drps right on the heart, will

make the

arthymia stop and is safe. My daughter s/times gets this heart thing, when

exposed to

emf's. You can get the Lavender Oil from youngliving, as well.

This will help the symptoms...the cause is more then likely the thryoid.

Many who have their blood tested for thryoid are told they are " normal " >

Look up: The BAsal Temperature TEst....this is somethng you can do

at home, for free, that will tell you if your thryoid is out of balance. No

doctors,

no fees, just a pad of paper, a pen, a thermometer, and the willingness to

take your temp before you get up every morning, for a week, and then average

out your temp. Anythng under 97.6 means the thyroid is not working right.

**I have also mentioned in other posts the importance of Magnesium and heart

health. Soaking in

a Magnesium bath, or doing foot soaks bypasses the liver having to digest yet

another

supplement...and for many, typical pill forms of magnesium are not easily

absorbed, and gives

people problems. Absorbing thru the skin, called: trandermal therapy, works

quite well,

as the SKIN is the body's largest organ.

Blessings of Many,

Lizzie

Amazon.com: Your Thyroid and How to Keep It Healthy ... 

www.amazon.com › Books › Health, Mind & Body - CachedSimilar

9 reviews - $29.99 - In stockDr Durrant-Peatfield covers this crucial subject

completely and with perfect clarity ... I recommend to you the book by Barry

Durrant Peatfield, " Your Thyroid and

From: snoshoe_2@...

Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 16:19:55 +0000

Subject: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

 

Zinc deficiency can cause exactly that.

>

>

> Its very difficult in this case to explain my cluster of symptoms

> due to restrictive socialized health system in the UK. GPs

> refuse a glucose challenge test, because my blood sugar level

> show normal despite the fact that it is often normal for various

> type of metabolic insulin disfunction such as hyperinsulemia for

> eg..

>

> The hunger pangs with arrythmias worse in the mornings could be

> diabetes, or some other metabolic dysfunction, but for sure, there is

> also deficiency in nutrients due to a very limited diet for many years.

>

> Those severe and acute hunger pangs could be a number of things.

> I will need to work this out without much help from doctors.

>

> The fissures on my fingers are signs of.....??????

> Not caused by dry crackling skin, its spontaneous small

> fissures, one or two, painful but am more worried about the

> cause. At one point I had those on my heels too, but more

> so on fingers.

>

> Anyone knows???

>

                         

[Guest guest]

Hi, Kooky,

I am a little confused about what you are saying.  Are you saying that you

don't agree with taking targeted nutrients for the thyroid and adrenals?  That

is what you are about to do with the Ubiquitol.  I have taken Q10 for years,

along with calcium AEP and pantethine for my adrenals.  Those have worked for

me quite well.  I was like you when I started--all the therapies seemed to

bring my energies down instead of up.  Qi-Gong would have never worked for me

back then.  One reason why this is particularly true for us, is the toxin

issues.  The lymphatics get overloaded and congested with toxins.  The

lymphatics use huge amounts of Q10, calcium, and pantethine to keep working;

they steal the nutrition from the adrenals in order to keep functioning.  Then,

due to liver detox deficiencies (nutrient deficiencies), all these systems come

tumbling down.  You are so right about toxins and nutrient deficiencies causing

everything. 

I have taken Q10, cal AEP, and pantethine now for over 13 years.  Are you

saying that you always become intolerant of nutrients?  Have you tried

quercitin?  It helped me with all my food intolerance (except gluten/celiac

disease).  I also start with very small amounts of supplements and work up to

tolerable levels over the space of 6 months or so when I start most nutrients,

as you mentioned you do.

Just a bit confused about what you mean,

Diane

From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@...>

Subject: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

Date: Sunday, August 14, 2011, 3:41 AM

 

No, thats not what I said.

What those scientists are saying, is no matter what the disease, all diseases,

no matter what we call them, or label them, resulted

from some type of toxicity or lack of a nutrient or several nutrients. These

manifest themselves with various symptoms and breakdown in connected

various systems

As you know already, if you have thyroid dysfunction, there are other

systems connected to this, ie, adrenals, pancreas, and biliary, adrenals,

kidneys, heart etc...

As for most symptoms, and I remember telling doctors my symptoms, and the honest

would say, that it could be any 40 or more disease they can think of on top of

the head!!

Meaning: The symptoms listed for adrenals and thyroid could be attributed to

other causes, likewise, some may have adrenals/thryoid issue and have no

symptoms, or few symptoms.

We are brought up to believe, that if we have symptoms=illness=disease, its

given a name, and a target approach will " cure " or " control " it... in fact,

whenever there is a health issue, its connected to all other systems, and we

simply don't have the answer how to treat at cellular level.

Yes, I read those books about thyroid/adrenals (Have three or four books at

home) use to belong thryoid forums, tried adrenal support from Nutri, saw

alternative endocrinologist specializing in treating thyroid... my

hypothyroidism was triggered by two prescribed meds

14 years ago. Its actually well known that many meds can and do cause thyroid

issues, and fluoride in tap water etc..

The problem with adrenal supps, when I was able to tolerate them about six years

ago, for a few months, then crashed when I had to stop (allergies). Its not

healthy to stay on those supps for long period of time, (IMHO) what happens when

you stop adrenal support supps?

Kookie

>

> From: KathyB <calicocat477@...>

> Subject: Re: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

>

> Date: Saturday, August 13, 2011, 3:29 PM

>

>

>

> http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/refsum/refsum.htm

>

> Has anyone looked into this possibility: Refsum or ARD?

>

> Increasing night blindness due to degeneration of the

>

> retina (retinitis pigmentosa). If the disease progresses symptoms can be:

>

> deafness, loss of the sense of smell

>

> (anosmia), problems with balance and

>

> coordination (ataxia), dry and scaly skin (ichthyosis), and heartbeat

>

> abnormalities (cardiac

>

> arrhythmias).

>

>

>

> Those w this lack the enzyme to break down

>

> foods that contain phytanic acid, including

>

> dairy products; beef and

>

> lamb; and fatty fish such as tuna, cod, and haddock.

>

> I'd like to look into it. Both my son & I noticed burning after eating beef.

I also noticed it

>

> from a vitamin that contains cod & haddock. Treatment is diet changes. Some

may need a plasma exchange.

>

> Untreated, ARD can lead to sudden death caused by heartbeat abnormalities.

>

> Kathy

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Diane,

Thanks for your quick response.

I don't seem to have any reactions to foods with gluten but I am checking labels

more carefully now. I seem to have many of the common symptoms of gluten

intolerance.

I am assuming that soy products effect estrogen levels which in turn effect the

adrenal and thyroid. Does that make sense to you?

Any ideas as to why my thyroid went from severely hyperactive to 90% better

overnight? It was a good thing that the severity of it ended and never returned.

But I still puzzle over how something like that could change overnight. It was

delightfully strange.

Cheryl

From: thode <lizt777@...>

Subject: RE: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

esens

Date: Sunday, August 14, 2011, 10:49 AM

Hi,

Wouldn't it be nice if it was that simple..just take zinc?

The reality is, low in one mineral is usually low  on others as well.

So, the question is: what in the body controls how we absorb

and digest nutrients? Answer: the thyroid. People, while that Thyroid gland

may be very small...but it is foolish to discount how VERY powerful

that little gland really is.....and if the thryoid isn't working right,

nothing in the body will work right.

Those fissures are very painful...I know, I used to get them alot.

Waking up ravenous...starving sounds like Thryoid/Adrenal. Thryoid

regulates metabolism, adrenals regulate blood sugar levels.

Thryoid regulates the heart. My bet is on the thryoid...A really good book

to read is written by: Dr. Barry Durrant-Peatsfield, (he's from the UK)

I have his original book, same book, american publishers had him change the

title-

(The Great Thryoid Scandal and HOw to Survive It- was the original title)

**As for cracks on hands...I think this is just one of many signs of candida.

I found using: Sea Buckthorn OIl (www.mountainroseherbs.com ) and an essential

oil blend called: Melrose (www.youngliving.com)

mixed with coconut oil helped heal these very painful cracks. Sea Buckthorn Oil

is called

the Omega 7. Originally I had an organic lotion from Aubrey Organics called: SEa

Buckthorn

& cucumber with Ester-C that I mixed with the Melrose Oil. But that lotion is

very expensive..

so I decided to try my own little mixture, seeing that I was paying 16. dollars

for a 4 fl oz

of the Aubreys lotion. You do have to warm up the coconut oil, so an easier way

to do this

is to use organic Olive Oil, or Apricot Oil, and mix in 2 oz of Olive OIl, to 5

drops each of

the Melrose and Sea Buckthorn Oil. Rub this mixture on your hands and before

bed,

put some on, and put a cotton pair of ankle socks or cotton gloves on your

hands.

I found that this mixture, because the Melrose Oil is a very strong

Anti-Fungal..

this is what is needed to combat candida.

IN a pinch, pure Lavender Essential Oil, a few drps right on the heart, will

make the

arthymia stop and is safe. My daughter s/times gets this heart thing, when

exposed to

emf's. You can get the Lavender Oil from youngliving, as well.

This will help the symptoms...the cause is more then likely the thryoid.

Many who have their blood tested for thryoid are told they are " normal " >

Look up: The BAsal Temperature TEst....this is somethng you can do

at home, for free, that will tell you if your thryoid is out of balance. No

doctors,

no fees, just a pad of paper, a pen, a thermometer, and the willingness to

take your temp before you get up every morning, for a week, and then average

out your temp. Anythng under 97.6 means the thyroid is not working right.

**I have also mentioned in other posts the importance of Magnesium and heart

health. Soaking in

a Magnesium bath, or doing foot soaks bypasses the liver having to digest yet

another

supplement...and for many, typical pill forms of magnesium are not easily

absorbed, and gives

people problems. Absorbing thru the skin, called: trandermal therapy, works

quite well,

as the SKIN is the body's largest organ.

Blessings of Many,

Lizzie

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From: snoshoe_2@...

Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 16:19:55 +0000

Subject: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

 

Zinc deficiency can cause exactly that.

>

>

> Its very difficult in this case to explain my cluster of symptoms

> due to restrictive socialized health system in the UK. GPs

> refuse a glucose challenge test, because my blood sugar level

> show normal despite the fact that it is often normal for various

> type of metabolic insulin disfunction such as hyperinsulemia for

> eg..

>

> The hunger pangs with arrythmias worse in the mornings could be

> diabetes, or some other metabolic dysfunction, but for sure, there is

> also deficiency in nutrients due to a very limited diet for many years.

>

> Those severe and acute hunger pangs could be a number of things.

> I will need to work this out without much help from doctors.

>

> The fissures on my fingers are signs of.....??????

> Not caused by dry crackling skin, its spontaneous small

> fissures, one or two, painful but am more worried about the

> cause. At one point I had those on my heels too, but more

> so on fingers.

>

> Anyone knows???

>

                         

[Guest guest]

PS: I didn't mention the thyroid here, but it is also involved in the organ

dysfunctionality cascade.  Like Lizzie said, it steps in and tries to help the

adrenals, and it goes down too.  But all of this happened due to toxins and

nutrient deficiency.  So it is always important to ask oneself, " why?  Why do

I have toxin build up and nutrient deficiency? "   For me, the answer was celiac

disease. Cd caused gut damage and a lot of the nutrients just didn't get thru to

my cells and organs; in other cases, I did not eat enough good foods to deal

with the amount of mess the nutrients had to address. 

We should not lose sight that emfs can damage tjs and the body, too.  It is

likely that our guts can be damaged from emfs, as well.  So avoidance is very

important for us.  A friend of mine told me today that she lives in the middle

of nowhere and an ES friend of hers lives in a city.  The city friend was

complaining that she did all that my friend was doing and was still ill.  My

friend remarked, but you are better and you STILL live in the city!  My friend

then told her that she, herself, could not visit the city without getting

worse. 

One thing many ESsers never come to terms with is where they live.  Living in

Paris or New York is, itself, a huge strain on the body.  It is most difficult

to avoid emfs if you are living in the city.  Yet many try, due to their

careers, etc. 

My 5 cents,

Diane

From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@...>

Subject: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

Date: Sunday, August 14, 2011, 3:41 AM

 

No, thats not what I said.

What those scientists are saying, is no matter what the disease, all diseases,

no matter what we call them, or label them, resulted

from some type of toxicity or lack of a nutrient or several nutrients. These

manifest themselves with various symptoms and breakdown in connected

various systems

As you know already, if you have thyroid dysfunction, there are other

systems connected to this, ie, adrenals, pancreas, and biliary, adrenals,

kidneys, heart etc...

As for most symptoms, and I remember telling doctors my symptoms, and the honest

would say, that it could be any 40 or more disease they can think of on top of

the head!!

Meaning: The symptoms listed for adrenals and thyroid could be attributed to

other causes, likewise, some may have adrenals/thryoid issue and have no

symptoms, or few symptoms.

We are brought up to believe, that if we have symptoms=illness=disease, its

given a name, and a target approach will " cure " or " control " it... in fact,

whenever there is a health issue, its connected to all other systems, and we

simply don't have the answer how to treat at cellular level.

Yes, I read those books about thyroid/adrenals (Have three or four books at

home) use to belong thryoid forums, tried adrenal support from Nutri, saw

alternative endocrinologist specializing in treating thyroid... my

hypothyroidism was triggered by two prescribed meds

14 years ago. Its actually well known that many meds can and do cause thyroid

issues, and fluoride in tap water etc..

The problem with adrenal supps, when I was able to tolerate them about six years

ago, for a few months, then crashed when I had to stop (allergies). Its not

healthy to stay on those supps for long period of time, (IMHO) what happens when

you stop adrenal support supps?

Kookie

>

> From: KathyB <calicocat477@...>

> Subject: Re: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

>

> Date: Saturday, August 13, 2011, 3:29 PM

>

>

>

> http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/refsum/refsum.htm

>

> Has anyone looked into this possibility: Refsum or ARD?

>

> Increasing night blindness due to degeneration of the

>

> retina (retinitis pigmentosa). If the disease progresses symptoms can be:

>

> deafness, loss of the sense of smell

>

> (anosmia), problems with balance and

>

> coordination (ataxia), dry and scaly skin (ichthyosis), and heartbeat

>

> abnormalities (cardiac

>

> arrhythmias).

>

>

>

> Those w this lack the enzyme to break down

>

> foods that contain phytanic acid, including

>

> dairy products; beef and

>

> lamb; and fatty fish such as tuna, cod, and haddock.

>

> I'd like to look into it. Both my son & I noticed burning after eating beef.

I also noticed it

>

> from a vitamin that contains cod & haddock. Treatment is diet changes. Some

may need a plasma exchange.

>

> Untreated, ARD can lead to sudden death caused by heartbeat abnormalities.

>

> Kathy

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hmmmm, Cheryl,

Well, yes, that does sound like it could have been directly caused by emfs or

very bad stress of some sort.  One thing to note here, tho... this would be a

red flag to keep your thyroid well nourished (and adrenals, too).

Diane

From: thode <lizt777@...>

Subject: RE: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

esens

Date: Sunday, August 14, 2011, 10:49 AM

Hi,

Wouldn't it be nice if it was that simple..just take zinc?

The reality is, low in one mineral is usually low  on others as well.

So, the question is: what in the body controls how we absorb

and digest nutrients? Answer: the thyroid. People, while that Thyroid gland

may be very small...but it is foolish to discount how VERY powerful

that little gland really is.....and if the thryoid isn't working right,

nothing in the body will work right.

Those fissures are very painful...I know, I used to get them alot.

Waking up ravenous...starving sounds like Thryoid/Adrenal. Thryoid

regulates metabolism, adrenals regulate blood sugar levels.

Thryoid regulates the heart. My bet is on the thryoid...A really good book

to read is written by: Dr. Barry Durrant-Peatsfield, (he's from the UK)

I have his original book, same book, american publishers had him change the

title-

(The Great Thryoid Scandal and HOw to Survive It- was the original title)

**As for cracks on hands...I think this is just one of many signs of candida.

I found using: Sea Buckthorn OIl (www.mountainroseherbs.com ) and an essential

oil blend called: Melrose (www.youngliving.com)

mixed with coconut oil helped heal these very painful cracks. Sea Buckthorn Oil

is called

the Omega 7. Originally I had an organic lotion from Aubrey Organics called: SEa

Buckthorn

& cucumber with Ester-C that I mixed with the Melrose Oil. But that lotion is

very expensive..

so I decided to try my own little mixture, seeing that I was paying 16. dollars

for a 4 fl oz

of the Aubreys lotion. You do have to warm up the coconut oil, so an easier way

to do this

is to use organic Olive Oil, or Apricot Oil, and mix in 2 oz of Olive OIl, to 5

drops each of

the Melrose and Sea Buckthorn Oil. Rub this mixture on your hands and before

bed,

put some on, and put a cotton pair of ankle socks or cotton gloves on your

hands.

I found that this mixture, because the Melrose Oil is a very strong

Anti-Fungal..

this is what is needed to combat candida.

IN a pinch, pure Lavender Essential Oil, a few drps right on the heart, will

make the

arthymia stop and is safe. My daughter s/times gets this heart thing, when

exposed to

emf's. You can get the Lavender Oil from youngliving, as well.

This will help the symptoms...the cause is more then likely the thryoid.

Many who have their blood tested for thryoid are told they are " normal " >

Look up: The BAsal Temperature TEst....this is somethng you can do

at home, for free, that will tell you if your thryoid is out of balance. No

doctors,

no fees, just a pad of paper, a pen, a thermometer, and the willingness to

take your temp before you get up every morning, for a week, and then average

out your temp. Anythng under 97.6 means the thyroid is not working right.

**I have also mentioned in other posts the importance of Magnesium and heart

health. Soaking in

a Magnesium bath, or doing foot soaks bypasses the liver having to digest yet

another

supplement...and for many, typical pill forms of magnesium are not easily

absorbed, and gives

people problems. Absorbing thru the skin, called: trandermal therapy, works

quite well,

as the SKIN is the body's largest organ.

Blessings of Many,

Lizzie

Amazon.com: Your Thyroid and How to Keep It Healthy ... 

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completely and with perfect clarity ... I recommend to you the book by Barry

Durrant Peatfield, " Your Thyroid and

From: snoshoe_2@...

Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 16:19:55 +0000

Subject: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

 

Zinc deficiency can cause exactly that.

>

>

> Its very difficult in this case to explain my cluster of symptoms

> due to restrictive socialized health system in the UK. GPs

> refuse a glucose challenge test, because my blood sugar level

> show normal despite the fact that it is often normal for various

> type of metabolic insulin disfunction such as hyperinsulemia for

> eg..

>

> The hunger pangs with arrythmias worse in the mornings could be

> diabetes, or some other metabolic dysfunction, but for sure, there is

> also deficiency in nutrients due to a very limited diet for many years.

>

> Those severe and acute hunger pangs could be a number of things.

> I will need to work this out without much help from doctors.

>

> The fissures on my fingers are signs of.....??????

> Not caused by dry crackling skin, its spontaneous small

> fissures, one or two, painful but am more worried about the

> cause. At one point I had those on my heels too, but more

> so on fingers.

>

> Anyone knows???

>

                         

[Guest guest]

Hi Diane,

I do take a lot of supplements for both of these problems and all my other

health problems. I am going crazy taking so many supplements every day - not to

even mention the cost. I know they do help me but I still am not doing well.

Anybody else have this frustration?

Cheryl

From: thode <lizt777@...>

Subject: RE: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

esens

Date: Sunday, August 14, 2011, 10:49 AM

Hi,

Wouldn't it be nice if it was that simple..just take zinc?

The reality is, low in one mineral is usually low  on others as well.

So, the question is: what in the body controls how we absorb

and digest nutrients? Answer: the thyroid. People, while that Thyroid gland

may be very small...but it is foolish to discount how VERY powerful

that little gland really is.....and if the thryoid isn't working right,

nothing in the body will work right.

Those fissures are very painful...I know, I used to get them alot.

Waking up ravenous...starving sounds like Thryoid/Adrenal. Thryoid

regulates metabolism, adrenals regulate blood sugar levels.

Thryoid regulates the heart. My bet is on the thryoid...A really good book

to read is written by: Dr. Barry Durrant-Peatsfield, (he's from the UK)

I have his original book, same book, american publishers had him change the

title-

(The Great Thryoid Scandal and HOw to Survive It- was the original title)

**As for cracks on hands...I think this is just one of many signs of candida.

I found using: Sea Buckthorn OIl (www.mountainroseherbs.com ) and an essential

oil blend called: Melrose (www.youngliving.com)

mixed with coconut oil helped heal these very painful cracks. Sea Buckthorn Oil

is called

the Omega 7. Originally I had an organic lotion from Aubrey Organics called: SEa

Buckthorn

& cucumber with Ester-C that I mixed with the Melrose Oil. But that lotion is

very expensive..

so I decided to try my own little mixture, seeing that I was paying 16. dollars

for a 4 fl oz

of the Aubreys lotion. You do have to warm up the coconut oil, so an easier way

to do this

is to use organic Olive Oil, or Apricot Oil, and mix in 2 oz of Olive OIl, to 5

drops each of

the Melrose and Sea Buckthorn Oil. Rub this mixture on your hands and before

bed,

put some on, and put a cotton pair of ankle socks or cotton gloves on your

hands.

I found that this mixture, because the Melrose Oil is a very strong

Anti-Fungal..

this is what is needed to combat candida.

IN a pinch, pure Lavender Essential Oil, a few drps right on the heart, will

make the

arthymia stop and is safe. My daughter s/times gets this heart thing, when

exposed to

emf's. You can get the Lavender Oil from youngliving, as well.

This will help the symptoms...the cause is more then likely the thryoid.

Many who have their blood tested for thryoid are told they are " normal " >

Look up: The BAsal Temperature TEst....this is somethng you can do

at home, for free, that will tell you if your thryoid is out of balance. No

doctors,

no fees, just a pad of paper, a pen, a thermometer, and the willingness to

take your temp before you get up every morning, for a week, and then average

out your temp. Anythng under 97.6 means the thyroid is not working right.

**I have also mentioned in other posts the importance of Magnesium and heart

health. Soaking in

a Magnesium bath, or doing foot soaks bypasses the liver having to digest yet

another

supplement...and for many, typical pill forms of magnesium are not easily

absorbed, and gives

people problems. Absorbing thru the skin, called: trandermal therapy, works

quite well,

as the SKIN is the body's largest organ.

Blessings of Many,

Lizzie

Amazon.com: Your Thyroid and How to Keep It Healthy ... 

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9 reviews - $29.99 - In stockDr Durrant-Peatfield covers this crucial subject

completely and with perfect clarity ... I recommend to you the book by Barry

Durrant Peatfield, " Your Thyroid and

From: snoshoe_2@...

Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 16:19:55 +0000

Subject: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

 

Zinc deficiency can cause exactly that.

>

>

> Its very difficult in this case to explain my cluster of symptoms

> due to restrictive socialized health system in the UK. GPs

> refuse a glucose challenge test, because my blood sugar level

> show normal despite the fact that it is often normal for various

> type of metabolic insulin disfunction such as hyperinsulemia for

> eg..

>

> The hunger pangs with arrythmias worse in the mornings could be

> diabetes, or some other metabolic dysfunction, but for sure, there is

> also deficiency in nutrients due to a very limited diet for many years.

>

> Those severe and acute hunger pangs could be a number of things.

> I will need to work this out without much help from doctors.

>

> The fissures on my fingers are signs of.....??????

> Not caused by dry crackling skin, its spontaneous small

> fissures, one or two, painful but am more worried about the

> cause. At one point I had those on my heels too, but more

> so on fingers.

>

> Anyone knows???

>

                         

[Guest guest]

Hey Diane,

Wow...about the not being able to take Iodine or Kelp.

Have you ever tried putting a drop of Nascent Iodine on the belly button?

I know this sounds really weird, but I have a friend who couldn't tolerate

IOdine orally..

because essential oils are s/times used on the " belly button " , I suggested she

try

putting a drp of Iodine (only the NAscent..this is a form easier for the body to

use)...

in her belly button. And it worked...she was able to do it that way w/out any

side effects.

She has many many health issues (fatty liver/diabetes/candida/ etc)

It took her 6 mths of doing the belly button with Iodine before she could

tolerate

taking it in a glass of water.

Just wondering,

Lizzie

From: cheryl_griffing@...

Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 12:48:24 -0700

Subject: RE: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

Hi Diane,

I do take a lot of supplements for both of these problems and all my other

health problems. I am going crazy taking so many supplements every day - not to

even mention the cost. I know they do help me but I still am not doing well.

Anybody else have this frustration?

Cheryl

From: thode <lizt777@...>

Subject: RE: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

esens

Date: Sunday, August 14, 2011, 10:49 AM

Hi,

Wouldn't it be nice if it was that simple..just take zinc?

The reality is, low in one mineral is usually low on others as well.

So, the question is: what in the body controls how we absorb

and digest nutrients? Answer: the thyroid. People, while that Thyroid gland

may be very small...but it is foolish to discount how VERY powerful

that little gland really is.....and if the thryoid isn't working right,

nothing in the body will work right.

Those fissures are very painful...I know, I used to get them alot.

Waking up ravenous...starving sounds like Thryoid/Adrenal. Thryoid

regulates metabolism, adrenals regulate blood sugar levels.

Thryoid regulates the heart. My bet is on the thryoid...A really good book

to read is written by: Dr. Barry Durrant-Peatsfield, (he's from the UK)

I have his original book, same book, american publishers had him change the

title-

(The Great Thryoid Scandal and HOw to Survive It- was the original title)

**As for cracks on hands...I think this is just one of many signs of candida.

I found using: Sea Buckthorn OIl (www.mountainroseherbs.com ) and an essential

oil blend called: Melrose (www.youngliving.com)

mixed with coconut oil helped heal these very painful cracks. Sea Buckthorn Oil

is called

the Omega 7. Originally I had an organic lotion from Aubrey Organics called: SEa

Buckthorn

& cucumber with Ester-C that I mixed with the Melrose Oil. But that lotion is

very expensive..

so I decided to try my own little mixture, seeing that I was paying 16. dollars

for a 4 fl oz

of the Aubreys lotion. You do have to warm up the coconut oil, so an easier way

to do this

is to use organic Olive Oil, or Apricot Oil, and mix in 2 oz of Olive OIl, to 5

drops each of

the Melrose and Sea Buckthorn Oil. Rub this mixture on your hands and before

bed,

put some on, and put a cotton pair of ankle socks or cotton gloves on your

hands.

I found that this mixture, because the Melrose Oil is a very strong

Anti-Fungal..

this is what is needed to combat candida.

IN a pinch, pure Lavender Essential Oil, a few drps right on the heart, will

make the

arthymia stop and is safe. My daughter s/times gets this heart thing, when

exposed to

emf's. You can get the Lavender Oil from youngliving, as well.

This will help the symptoms...the cause is more then likely the thryoid.

Many who have their blood tested for thryoid are told they are " normal " >

Look up: The BAsal Temperature TEst....this is somethng you can do

at home, for free, that will tell you if your thryoid is out of balance. No

doctors,

no fees, just a pad of paper, a pen, a thermometer, and the willingness to

take your temp before you get up every morning, for a week, and then average

out your temp. Anythng under 97.6 means the thyroid is not working right.

**I have also mentioned in other posts the importance of Magnesium and heart

health. Soaking in

a Magnesium bath, or doing foot soaks bypasses the liver having to digest yet

another

supplement...and for many, typical pill forms of magnesium are not easily

absorbed, and gives

people problems. Absorbing thru the skin, called: trandermal therapy, works

quite well,

as the SKIN is the body's largest organ.

Blessings of Many,

Lizzie

Amazon.com: Your Thyroid and How to Keep It Healthy ...

www.amazon.com › Books › Health, Mind & Body - CachedSimilar

9 reviews - $29.99 - In stockDr Durrant-Peatfield covers this crucial subject

completely and with perfect clarity ... I recommend to you the book by Barry

Durrant Peatfield, " Your Thyroid and

From: snoshoe_2@...

Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 16:19:55 +0000

Subject: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

Zinc deficiency can cause exactly that.

>

>

> Its very difficult in this case to explain my cluster of symptoms

> due to restrictive socialized health system in the UK. GPs

> refuse a glucose challenge test, because my blood sugar level

> show normal despite the fact that it is often normal for various

> type of metabolic insulin disfunction such as hyperinsulemia for

> eg..

>

> The hunger pangs with arrythmias worse in the mornings could be

> diabetes, or some other metabolic dysfunction, but for sure, there is

> also deficiency in nutrients due to a very limited diet for many years.

>

> Those severe and acute hunger pangs could be a number of things.

> I will need to work this out without much help from doctors.

>

> The fissures on my fingers are signs of.....??????

> Not caused by dry crackling skin, its spontaneous small

> fissures, one or two, painful but am more worried about the

> cause. At one point I had those on my heels too, but more

> so on fingers.

>

> Anyone knows???

>

[Guest guest]

Hi again, Cheryl,

Yes, I did also have that frustration, Cheryl!  I now take a lot less.  After

a couple years I required less, but also, a good bit of my recovery followed

homeopathic treatment which detoxed my bone marrow and other organs.

Diane

From: thode <lizt777@...>

Subject: RE: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

esens

Date: Sunday, August 14, 2011, 10:49 AM

Hi,

Wouldn't it be nice if it was that simple..just take zinc?

The reality is, low in one mineral is usually low  on others as well.

So, the question is: what in the body controls how we absorb

and digest nutrients? Answer: the thyroid. People, while that Thyroid gland

may be very small...but it is foolish to discount how VERY powerful

that little gland really is.....and if the thryoid isn't working right,

nothing in the body will work right.

Those fissures are very painful...I know, I used to get them alot.

Waking up ravenous...starving sounds like Thryoid/Adrenal. Thryoid

regulates metabolism, adrenals regulate blood sugar levels.

Thryoid regulates the heart. My bet is on the thryoid...A really good book

to read is written by: Dr. Barry Durrant-Peatsfield, (he's from the UK)

I have his original book, same book, american publishers had him change the

title-

(The Great Thryoid Scandal and HOw to Survive It- was the original title)

**As for cracks on hands...I think this is just one of many signs of candida.

I found using: Sea Buckthorn OIl (www.mountainroseherbs.com ) and an essential

oil blend called: Melrose (www.youngliving.com)

mixed with coconut oil helped heal these very painful cracks. Sea Buckthorn Oil

is called

the Omega 7. Originally I had an organic lotion from Aubrey Organics called: SEa

Buckthorn

& cucumber with Ester-C that I mixed with the Melrose Oil. But that lotion is

very expensive..

so I decided to try my own little mixture, seeing that I was paying 16. dollars

for a 4 fl oz

of the Aubreys lotion. You do have to warm up the coconut oil, so an easier way

to do this

is to use organic Olive Oil, or Apricot Oil, and mix in 2 oz of Olive OIl, to 5

drops each of

the Melrose and Sea Buckthorn Oil. Rub this mixture on your hands and before

bed,

put some on, and put a cotton pair of ankle socks or cotton gloves on your

hands.

I found that this mixture, because the Melrose Oil is a very strong

Anti-Fungal..

this is what is needed to combat candida.

IN a pinch, pure Lavender Essential Oil, a few drps right on the heart, will

make the

arthymia stop and is safe. My daughter s/times gets this heart thing, when

exposed to

emf's. You can get the Lavender Oil from youngliving, as well.

This will help the symptoms...the cause is more then likely the thryoid.

Many who have their blood tested for thryoid are told they are " normal " >

Look up: The BAsal Temperature TEst....this is somethng you can do

at home, for free, that will tell you if your thryoid is out of balance. No

doctors,

no fees, just a pad of paper, a pen, a thermometer, and the willingness to

take your temp before you get up every morning, for a week, and then average

out your temp. Anythng under 97.6 means the thyroid is not working right.

**I have also mentioned in other posts the importance of Magnesium and heart

health. Soaking in

a Magnesium bath, or doing foot soaks bypasses the liver having to digest yet

another

supplement...and for many, typical pill forms of magnesium are not easily

absorbed, and gives

people problems. Absorbing thru the skin, called: trandermal therapy, works

quite well,

as the SKIN is the body's largest organ.

Blessings of Many,

Lizzie

Amazon.com: Your Thyroid and How to Keep It Healthy ... 

www.amazon.com › Books › Health, Mind & Body - CachedSimilar

9 reviews - $29.99 - In stockDr Durrant-Peatfield covers this crucial subject

completely and with perfect clarity ... I recommend to you the book by Barry

Durrant Peatfield, " Your Thyroid and

From: snoshoe_2@...

Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 16:19:55 +0000

Subject: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

 

Zinc deficiency can cause exactly that.

>

>

> Its very difficult in this case to explain my cluster of symptoms

> due to restrictive socialized health system in the UK. GPs

> refuse a glucose challenge test, because my blood sugar level

> show normal despite the fact that it is often normal for various

> type of metabolic insulin disfunction such as hyperinsulemia for

> eg..

>

> The hunger pangs with arrythmias worse in the mornings could be

> diabetes, or some other metabolic dysfunction, but for sure, there is

> also deficiency in nutrients due to a very limited diet for many years.

>

> Those severe and acute hunger pangs could be a number of things.

> I will need to work this out without much help from doctors.

>

> The fissures on my fingers are signs of.....??????

> Not caused by dry crackling skin, its spontaneous small

> fissures, one or two, painful but am more worried about the

> cause. At one point I had those on my heels too, but more

> so on fingers.

>

> Anyone knows???

>

                         

[Guest guest]

Hi Lizzie,

I have tried using it on my skin (not belly button specifically). I get the

rust on my palms and feet either way. I do take a couple drops in water every

week or so. In the spring, I took halved kelp tablets once a week. I have to

run the fine line of how much is too much. But I seem okay doing it this way.

Technically, celiacs are not supposed to ever take iodine. (It may have to do

with it ending up in our brains, too.)

Thanks for the suggestion,

Diane

>

> From: thode <lizt777@...>

>

> Subject: RE: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

>

> esens

>

> Date: Sunday, August 14, 2011, 10:49 AM

>

> Hi,

>

> Wouldn't it be nice if it was that simple..just take zinc?

>

>

> The reality is, low in one mineral is usually low  on

> others as well.

>

> So, the question is: what in the body controls how we

> absorb

>

> and digest nutrients? Answer: the thyroid. People, while

> that Thyroid gland

>

> may be very small...but it is foolish to discount how VERY

> powerful

>

> that little gland really is.....and if the thryoid isn't

> working right,

>

> nothing in the body will work right.

>

> Those fissures are very painful...I know, I used to get

> them alot.

>

> Waking up ravenous...starving sounds like Thryoid/Adrenal.

> Thryoid

>

> regulates metabolism, adrenals regulate blood sugar levels.

>

>

> Thryoid regulates the heart. My bet is on the thryoid...A

> really good book

>

> to read is written by: Dr. Barry Durrant-Peatsfield, (he's

> from the UK)

>

> I have his original book, same book, american publishers

> had him change the title-

>

> (The Great Thryoid Scandal and HOw to Survive It- was the

> original title)

>

> **As for cracks on hands...I think this is just one of many

> signs of candida.

>

> I found using: Sea Buckthorn OIl (www.mountainroseherbs.com

> ) and an essential

>

> oil blend called: Melrose (www.youngliving.com)

>

> mixed with coconut oil helped heal these very painful

> cracks. Sea Buckthorn Oil is called

>

> the Omega 7. Originally I had an organic lotion from Aubrey

> Organics called: SEa Buckthorn

>

> & cucumber with Ester-C that I mixed with the Melrose

> Oil. But that lotion is very expensive..

>

> so I decided to try my own little mixture, seeing that I

> was paying 16. dollars for a 4 fl oz

>

> of the Aubreys lotion. You do have to warm up the coconut

> oil, so an easier way to do this

>

> is to use organic Olive Oil, or Apricot Oil, and mix in 2

> oz of Olive OIl, to 5 drops each of

>

> the Melrose and Sea Buckthorn Oil. Rub this mixture on your

> hands and before bed,

>

> put some on, and put a cotton pair of ankle socks or cotton

> gloves on your hands.

>

> I found that this mixture, because the Melrose Oil is a

> very strong Anti-Fungal..

>

> this is what is needed to combat candida.

>

> IN a pinch, pure Lavender Essential Oil, a few drps right

> on the heart, will make the

>

> arthymia stop and is safe. My daughter s/times gets this

> heart thing, when exposed to

>

> emf's. You can get the Lavender Oil from youngliving, as

> well.

>

> This will help the symptoms...the cause is more then likely

> the thryoid.

>

> Many who have their blood tested for thryoid are told they

> are " normal " >

>

> Look up: The BAsal Temperature TEst....this is

> somethng you can do

>

> at home, for free, that will tell you if your thryoid is

> out of balance. No doctors,

>

> no fees, just a pad of paper, a pen, a thermometer, and the

> willingness to

>

> take your temp before you get up every morning, for a week,

> and then average

>

> out your temp. Anythng under 97.6 means the thyroid is not

> working right.

>

> **I have also mentioned in other posts the importance of

> Magnesium and heart health. Soaking in

>

> a Magnesium bath, or doing foot soaks bypasses the liver

> having to digest yet another

>

> supplement...and for many, typical pill forms of magnesium

> are not easily absorbed, and gives

>

> people problems. Absorbing thru the skin, called:

> trandermal therapy, works quite well,

>

> as the SKIN is the body's largest organ.

>

> Blessings of Many,

>

> Lizzie

>

> Amazon.com: Your Thyroid and How to Keep It Healthy

> ... 

>

> www.amazon.com › Books › Health, Mind & Body -

> CachedSimilar

>

> 9 reviews - $29.99 - In stockDr Durrant-Peatfield covers

> this crucial subject completely and with perfect clarity ...

> I recommend to you the book by Barry Durrant Peatfield,

> " Your Thyroid and

>

>

>

> From: snoshoe_2@...

>

> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 16:19:55 +0000

>

> Subject: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

>

>  

>

> Zinc deficiency can cause exactly that.

>

>

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Its very difficult in this case to explain my cluster

> of symptoms

>

> > due to restrictive socialized health system in the UK.

> GPs

>

> > refuse a glucose challenge test, because my blood

> sugar level

>

> > show normal despite the fact that it is often normal

> for various

>

> > type of metabolic insulin disfunction such as

> hyperinsulemia for

>

> > eg..

>

> >

>

> > The hunger pangs with arrythmias worse in the mornings

> could be

>

> > diabetes, or some other metabolic dysfunction, but for

> sure, there is

>

> > also deficiency in nutrients due to a very limited

> diet for many years.

>

> >

>

> > Those severe and acute hunger pangs could be a number

> of things.

>

> > I will need to work this out without much help from

> doctors.

>

> >

>

> > The fissures on my fingers are signs of.....??????

>

> > Not caused by dry crackling skin, its spontaneous

> small

>

> > fissures, one or two, painful but am more worried

> about the

>

> > cause. At one point I had those on my heels too, but

> more

>

> > so on fingers.

>

> >

>

> > Anyone knows???

>

> >

>

>                

>          

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Diane,

I am also trying to work on detox. Problem is I am tired so much of the time and

have too many responsibilities to be any more tired as detox makes one. Whenever

I am feeling a bit better I work on detoxing again. I do use chelation on a

regular basis however. But when I try to do a general detox is when I get even

more tired.

Cheryl

From: thode <lizt777@...>

Subject: RE: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

esens

Date: Sunday, August 14, 2011, 10:49 AM

Hi,

Wouldn't it be nice if it was that simple..just take zinc?

The reality is, low in one mineral is usually low  on others as well.

So, the question is: what in the body controls how we absorb

and digest nutrients? Answer: the thyroid. People, while that Thyroid gland

may be very small...but it is foolish to discount how VERY powerful

that little gland really is.....and if the thryoid isn't working right,

nothing in the body will work right.

Those fissures are very painful...I know, I used to get them alot.

Waking up ravenous...starving sounds like Thryoid/Adrenal. Thryoid

regulates metabolism, adrenals regulate blood sugar levels.

Thryoid regulates the heart. My bet is on the thryoid...A really good book

to read is written by: Dr. Barry Durrant-Peatsfield, (he's from the UK)

I have his original book, same book, american publishers had him change the

title-

(The Great Thryoid Scandal and HOw to Survive It- was the original title)

**As for cracks on hands...I think this is just one of many signs of candida.

I found using: Sea Buckthorn OIl (www.mountainroseherbs.com ) and an essential

oil blend called: Melrose (www.youngliving.com)

mixed with coconut oil helped heal these very painful cracks. Sea Buckthorn Oil

is called

the Omega 7. Originally I had an organic lotion from Aubrey Organics called: SEa

Buckthorn

& cucumber with Ester-C that I mixed with the Melrose Oil. But that lotion is

very expensive..

so I decided to try my own little mixture, seeing that I was paying 16. dollars

for a 4 fl oz

of the Aubreys lotion. You do have to warm up the coconut oil, so an easier way

to do this

is to use organic Olive Oil, or Apricot Oil, and mix in 2 oz of Olive OIl, to 5

drops each of

the Melrose and Sea Buckthorn Oil. Rub this mixture on your hands and before

bed,

put some on, and put a cotton pair of ankle socks or cotton gloves on your

hands.

I found that this mixture, because the Melrose Oil is a very strong

Anti-Fungal..

this is what is needed to combat candida.

IN a pinch, pure Lavender Essential Oil, a few drps right on the heart, will

make the

arthymia stop and is safe. My daughter s/times gets this heart thing, when

exposed to

emf's. You can get the Lavender Oil from youngliving, as well.

This will help the symptoms...the cause is more then likely the thryoid.

Many who have their blood tested for thryoid are told they are " normal " >

Look up: The BAsal Temperature TEst....this is somethng you can do

at home, for free, that will tell you if your thryoid is out of balance. No

doctors,

no fees, just a pad of paper, a pen, a thermometer, and the willingness to

take your temp before you get up every morning, for a week, and then average

out your temp. Anythng under 97.6 means the thyroid is not working right.

**I have also mentioned in other posts the importance of Magnesium and heart

health. Soaking in

a Magnesium bath, or doing foot soaks bypasses the liver having to digest yet

another

supplement...and for many, typical pill forms of magnesium are not easily

absorbed, and gives

people problems. Absorbing thru the skin, called: trandermal therapy, works

quite well,

as the SKIN is the body's largest organ.

Blessings of Many,

Lizzie

Amazon.com: Your Thyroid and How to Keep It Healthy ... 

www.amazon.com › Books › Health, Mind & Body - CachedSimilar

9 reviews - $29.99 - In stockDr Durrant-Peatfield covers this crucial subject

completely and with perfect clarity ... I recommend to you the book by Barry

Durrant Peatfield, " Your Thyroid and

From: snoshoe_2@...

Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 16:19:55 +0000

Subject: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

 

Zinc deficiency can cause exactly that.

>

>

> Its very difficult in this case to explain my cluster of symptoms

> due to restrictive socialized health system in the UK. GPs

> refuse a glucose challenge test, because my blood sugar level

> show normal despite the fact that it is often normal for various

> type of metabolic insulin disfunction such as hyperinsulemia for

> eg..

>

> The hunger pangs with arrythmias worse in the mornings could be

> diabetes, or some other metabolic dysfunction, but for sure, there is

> also deficiency in nutrients due to a very limited diet for many years.

>

> Those severe and acute hunger pangs could be a number of things.

> I will need to work this out without much help from doctors.

>

> The fissures on my fingers are signs of.....??????

> Not caused by dry crackling skin, its spontaneous small

> fissures, one or two, painful but am more worried about the

> cause. At one point I had those on my heels too, but more

> so on fingers.

>

> Anyone knows???

>

                         

[Guest guest]

You are right on the money!

Below are some excellent resources on this subject. Madga Havas also has a video

on emf's/ and heart problems.

This is why I am striving to get off and be OFF the grid! Right now, its one

room at a time, one chore at a time..

I have NO electricitiy in half my house. While some may think this is

" inconvenient " ..I think being fatigued from

all this crap is MORE inconvenient! (And I haven't " used " a cell phone in 2

years!) The other day I mowed my lawn...

it knocked me thru a loop and a half.

Lizzie

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From: furstc0404@...

Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 23:39:15 +0000

Subject: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

Hi Cheryl

I read some publications about trigger of some type of diabetes

and thrydoid by EMF. I have little doubt that mine was certainly

either triggered or compounded with EMF/ES. I switched

everything off today, and felt improved.

I also started on a multivit and supps..

There is no doubt that EMF/ES can cause all types of

diseases/illness, look up Diabetes Type 3, was told

can be caused by EMF.. I remember reading another

papers about diabetes being caused by environmental

pollution too.

If EMF/ES can cause breakages to the DNA strands which they

do according to some published articles in scientific journals,

this would lead to assume, it can cause any damage, including

thyroid, diabetes (these two are linked), cardiac, neuro, immune,

metabolic etc.. health issues.

Dont' you think?

> >

> >

> > Its very difficult in this case to explain my cluster of symptoms

> > due to restrictive socialized health system in the UK. GPs

> > refuse a glucose challenge test, because my blood sugar level

> > show normal despite the fact that it is often normal for various

> > type of metabolic insulin disfunction such as hyperinsulemia for

> > eg..

> >

> > The hunger pangs with arrythmias worse in the mornings could be

> > diabetes, or some other metabolic dysfunction, but for sure, there is

> > also deficiency in nutrients due to a very limited diet for many years.

> >

> > Those severe and acute hunger pangs could be a number of things.

> > I will need to work this out without much help from doctors.

> >

> > The fissures on my fingers are signs of.....??????

> > Not caused by dry crackling skin, its spontaneous small

> > fissures, one or two, painful but am more worried about the

> > cause. At one point I had those on my heels too, but more

> > so on fingers.

> >

> > Anyone knows???

> >

>

>

>

>

> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Kooky,

OIC what you meant now.  I actually (tho I talk of supplementation all the

time) try to eat foods myself, instead of taking supps for everything.  For

instance, I get a lot of help from taking virgin coconut oil in about 10

different areas of my health.  It blew me away how much coconut oil could

accomplish.  I rarely see that type of help from 1 supplement.

As to your question as to whether I knew things you could take for your

thyroid.  Yes, I do, actually.  I got this info from one of my favorite

reference books--Prescriptions for Nutritional Healing by Phyllis and

Balch.  (I have worn out 5 or 6 editions of this book over my lifetime. 

lol)  As for foods to eat: apricots, dates, egg yolks, molasses (molasses is

one of those indispensible foods in my life; I even feed my plants with it),

parsley, potatoes, raw seeds, whole grains, fish, chicken, raw milk, and

cheeses.  Drink steam distilled water only (this is to avoid toxins such as

pesticides, chlorine, and fluoride).  Eating organic foods (no pesticides) is

also recommended. 

Applying a natural progesterone cream may help.

As to diet to eat in moderation or not at all: the cruciferous veggies suppress

the thyroid.... broccoli, Brussel sprouts, cabbage, kale, mustard greens; also

peaches, pears, radishes, spinach, and turnips.  I already mentioned avoiding

soy [i'm surprised that soy is not mentioned in the book, but I have read it

elsewhere and it was what was messing up my thyroid--I was on soy isoflavones

for natural HRT, eating a high soy diet in place of gluten flours, and soy milk

in place of regular milk].  If you have severe symptoms, omit these foods

entirely.  You should also avoid processed and refined foods, including white

flour and sugar. 

These herbs can be helpful:  bayberry, black cohosh, goldenseal (I personally

avoid this one), Gentian and mugwort extracts, and Herbal bitters such as

Swedish bitters may help alleviate some symptoms associated with hypothyroidism.

These supplements are helpful:  kelp, L-tyrosine, a good multi-glandular,

vitamin B complex plus extra B2 and B12, Brewers yeast (if you are not

gluten-free), essential fatty acids such as Kyolic-EPA, iron, selenium, vitamin

A with mixed carotenoids plus natural beta-carotene, Vitamin C with

bioflavonoids, vitamin E, and zinc.

Do not take sulfa drugs or antihistamines unless it is absolutely necessary. 

There is a long list of meds to avoid (but I am guessing you are not a med

taker???  I am not--I avoid them like plague.) 

The homeopathic remedy " Calcarea carbonica " may increase thyroid function.

Recent evidence indicates an underactive thyroid may put you at risk of a heart

attack.  So it is good you are looking into this, regarding your recent heart

fibs. 

Hope this is helpful and you are able to get your thyroid back to normal without

Armour, etc.

Diane

From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@...>

Subject: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

Date: Sunday, August 14, 2011, 8:09 PM

 

Hi Diane;

What I meant is that I would rather eat fresh kelp daily than taking kelp

tabs for instance.

IN the past, before falling ill, if I had a deficiency, for instance

iron, I would eat foods with high iron content and correct the imbalance

using nutrition rather than taking vits and supps.

I went through stages of taking vits and supps.

More recently, I've changed my mind about this, and from

what I read, its much better to read up on nutrition, compounds in

foods, flowers, epigentics etc.. that can rectify issues if poss.

But of course, in such life threatening symptoms, I can't afford to

wait till my allergies decrease to get the right compounds from the right foods

I took some vits and minerals which I could tolerate for the malnutrion, and

hardly used the puter today, and yesterday, and felt an improvement.

There is so much we don't know about the epigenetics of vits and supps,

folic acid for instance is knkow to trigger some cancer cells in some

individuals. Recently, someone I know, went on a methylation protocol. She

previously had pre cancer mole, and within six months of starting the

methylation protocol, which includes folic acid, she had another mole showing

signs of early cancer.

Of course, in times of life threatening arrythmias, such as what I had this past

week, I will take vits and supps. I started three days ago, and feel the

improvement already, but I can't see this as being a long term solution.

I am not clear as to what supps to take for the hypothryroidsm. I can't take

Armour and thyroxine, tried this some years ago. My heart is too weak for this.

it will kill me, no doubt. I already know some who died with thyroxine.

So, I will have to take the Ayurvedic compounds I use to take until I developed

allergic to those, and hope, I won't react.

As for Q10 I tried it in the past. I could not tolerate it, had an allergic

reaction.

I am not well enough to practice Qi Gong. I am receiving Medical Qi Gong from a

practitioner who uses some type of vibrations energy. He is well respected

within his field, and is paid to fly over to some patients, some had cancers and

wwere sent home to die, etc...Out of all the experts I have consulted over the

years, he is the first one to have caused a massive improvement in a short

period of time. As I wrote before, its not hippy trippy stuff, its a branch of

TCM, validated by WHO, practice in hospitals in China, with a high success rate.

I have to work hard at it, by practicing the three moves he taught me, using

hands with arms by my side, breathing excercises, specific types of meditations,

and work up till I am strong enough to attend classes.

There are several published papers in Western medicine about the breathing

technique from Qi Gong, yog, and Tai Chi which releases excess nitric oxide

etc.. As for the high success rate with other serious illnesses, there

thousands of published papers, mainly from China. As for the West, we are only

begining to accept that all disease starts at cellular level, involving EMF (the

largest concentration in the heart muscle) and eletricity between cells etc..

These guys work at cellular level. There have been published papers about

elevating DHEA, serotonin, altering DNA, and more by good competent Qi Gong

practitioner. It has side effects, such as healing crisis, and can also cause

psychosis and hallucinations and other symptoms if the Practitioner is

inexperienced. This is listed in the DSM-V as Gi Gong induced hallucinations

and psychosis.

Having seen such amazing improvement from receiving Medical Qi Gong, even though

the recoverly will be slow, I want to heal and not just put a band aid over

symptoms. He did say it would take that long to heal.

I met some of the people he helped whose doctors sent home

to " die " ...

Anyway, I will continue with the multis I started on, cut down on

EMf/Es exposure, the Medical Qi Gong weekly sessions, and possibly

start again on Thyroid Ayurvedic compounds.

have you any info on hypothyroidism treatment without taking thyroxine

or Armour those bovine hormonal support for the adrenals?

Thanks,

Kookie

>

> >

>

> > From: KathyB <calicocat477@>

>

> > Subject: Re: Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias

>

> >

>

> > Date: Saturday, August 13, 2011, 3:29 PM

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/refsum/refsum.htm

>

> >

>

> > Has anyone looked into this possibility: Refsum or ARD?

>

> >

>

> > Increasing night blindness due to degeneration of the

>

> >

>

> > retina (retinitis pigmentosa). If the disease progresses symptoms can be:

>

> >

>

> > deafness, loss of the sense of smell

>

> >

>

> > (anosmia), problems with balance and

>

> >

>

> > coordination (ataxia), dry and scaly skin (ichthyosis), and heartbeat

>

> >

>

> > abnormalities (cardiac

>

> >

>

> > arrhythmias).

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Those w this lack the enzyme to break down

>

> >

>

> > foods that contain phytanic acid, including

>

> >

>

> > dairy products; beef and

>

> >

>

> > lamb; and fatty fish such as tuna, cod, and haddock.

>

> >

>

> > I'd like to look into it. Both my son & I noticed burning after eating

beef. I also noticed it

>

> >

>

> > from a vitamin that contains cod & haddock. Treatment is diet changes. Some

may need a plasma exchange.

>

> >

>

> > Untreated, ARD can lead to sudden death caused by heartbeat abnormalities.

>

> >

>

> > Kathy

>

> >

>

> >