Re: which is worse for EMF--old TV or new Mac computer?

[Guest guest]

> I'm faced with a situation where we could replace our old television AND

> old iMac with a new iMac bigger-screen computer.

>

> Can anybody comment on this new configuration in terms of EMF load in our

> house?

Unfortunately, I don't think there is any answer to your question that will

be very helpful. The new setup may be better, worse, or the same. It

depends on the specifics of the components inside your old and new setup,

which vary greatly from one model to the next (and sometimes even the same

model of a piece of electronics changes its internal components while still

retaining the same model number).

Also, there may be no noticeable difference in using a digital signal vs.

analog. You'd just have to try it and see with the specific setup. It

may be that for some electronics, the digital signal produces less of a

problem than the analog?

Marc

[Guest guest]

I personally see a great difference between analog and digital frequencies. 

But that is neither here nor there, since we all react differently.  As Marc

said, it is impossible to say what will happen.  However, if you need a new i

Mac you could keep the old analog tv a while and see!

Diane

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: which is worse for EMF--old TV or new Mac computer?

Date: Saturday, August 13, 2011, 10:41 AM

 

> I'm faced with a situation where we could replace our old television AND

> old iMac with a new iMac bigger-screen computer.

>

> Can anybody comment on this new configuration in terms of EMF load in our

> house?

Unfortunately, I don't think there is any answer to your question that will

be very helpful. The new setup may be better, worse, or the same. It

depends on the specifics of the components inside your old and new setup,

which vary greatly from one model to the next (and sometimes even the same

model of a piece of electronics changes its internal components while still

retaining the same model number).

Also, there may be no noticeable difference in using a digital signal vs.

analog. You'd just have to try it and see with the specific setup. It

may be that for some electronics, the digital signal produces less of a

problem than the analog?

Marc

[Guest guest]

> I personally see a great difference between analog and digital

> frequencies.

I assume you feel this difference with a particular piece of

equipment -- either a specific television set, digital

converter box, cable box, etc.?

What I'm suggesting is that if you had a different brand/model

of television, digital converter box, cable box, etc., you might

not notice any difference, or the frequencies that seem worse

with one set of equipment may be better with a different set

of equipment.

As for the iMac question -- probably good to buy from someplace

where it will be easy to return, and probably good if the iMac

does NOT have a universal power supply (in other words, it only

works with one voltage -- either 110v or 220v)

Marc

[Guest guest]

Hi Marc,

< I assume you feel this difference with a particular piece of

equipment -- either a specific television set, digital

converter box, cable box, etc.? >

Well, to my knowledge, I have never reacted to an analog tv or analog phone or

mechanical controls, for instance.  However, I was regularly reacting to

digital frequencies--on tv, vcrs, phones, automobile controls, furnace controls,

air conditioner controls, dehumidifier controls......  I do not react as badly

as I once did, however, I no longer have these in my presence, either, on an

ongoing basis.  (So, I am not sure I would not react as badly if I did, after,

say a day or 2.)  I think this is what I am still reacting to on my

refrigerator.  I can stand it, but I can still feel it.

Yes, I agree, better to buy from somewhere where it can be easily returned if it

doesn't work out.

Diane

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: which is worse for EMF--old TV or new Mac computer?

Date: Saturday, August 13, 2011, 3:08 PM

 

> I personally see a great difference between analog and digital

> frequencies.

I assume you feel this difference with a particular piece of

equipment -- either a specific television set, digital

converter box, cable box, etc.?

What I'm suggesting is that if you had a different brand/model

of television, digital converter box, cable box, etc., you might

not notice any difference, or the frequencies that seem worse

with one set of equipment may be better with a different set

of equipment.

As for the iMac question -- probably good to buy from someplace

where it will be easy to return, and probably good if the iMac

does NOT have a universal power supply (in other words, it only

works with one voltage -- either 110v or 220v)

Marc

[Guest guest]

> Well, to my knowledge, I have never reacted to an analog tv or analog

> phone or mechanical controls, for instance.  However, I was regularly

> reacting to digital frequencies

Ahhh, well I can certainly recall having to stay 20+ feet away from

my old ~1990 Sony 32 " tube TV with analog (480i) input, and these days

I have no problem being close to my ~2009 Panasonic 37 " LCD HDTV

with digital (1080i) input.

I *will* say that I avoid 1080p inputs, because I notice symptoms

from that -- but all of the HDTV equipment I have allows me to

choose between 1080p, 1080i, 720p, 480p, and 480i.

Marc

[Guest guest]

are.you.saying.that.you.react.to.the.old.technology,

but.the.new.HDTV.technology.is.fine.for.you??

boy,.there.sure.seems.to.be.a.lot.of.misinformation

out.there.then.

I.thought.that.the.HDTV.was.the.absolute.worst.in.terms

of.EMF. " pollution. "

at.least.the.HDTV.televisions.themselves.

and.i.was.under.the.impression.that.wired.items.were

vastly.better.than.wireless.items.in.terms.of.pollution.

Am.I.wrong?

Sorry.to.be.so. " newbie " .about.this.

and.sorry.about.my.typing.

(this.is.why.i.need.a.new.imac!!)

thanks.again!

Tamara

[Guest guest]

> are.you.saying.that.you.react.to.the.old.technology,

> but.the.new.HDTV.technology.is.fine.for.you??

Well, what I'm *really* saying is that I'm a lot less

sensitive than I used to be. :-)

However, an old cathode ray tube television sets emit

a lot of EMF, and it's quite possible that an

LCD or LED HDTV will be easier to tolerate. But

one cannot make generalizations because of the

great variation in the components used in electronics --

you may find that one HDTV is perfectly fine

while another HDTV is terrible.

> I.thought.that.the.HDTV.was.the.absolute.worst.in.terms

> of.EMF. " pollution. "

> at.least.the.HDTV.televisions.themselves.

Well, I can tell you that I had a much harder

time finding a tolerable Blu-ray player than I

did finding a tolerable HDTV set. I went through

5 Blu-ray players until I found one that provoked

no symptoms, while the first HDTV set I tried

was fine.

In fact, since we use HDTV sets as computer monitors,

I guess I've been 3 for 3 -- all 3 HDTV sets have

been fine. No returns due to EMF sensitivity.

> and.i.was.under.the.impression.that.wired.items.were

> vastly.better.than.wireless.items.in.terms.of.pollution.

Yes, wired items are better than wireless, although

I'm not sure how that fits into the current topic?

(maybe it doesn't)

Marc

[Guest guest]

>

> Yes, wired items are better than wireless, although

> I'm not sure how that fits into the current topic?

> (maybe it doesn't)

>

> Marc

>

lol--i.guess.it.doesn't.

it's.just.one.of.the.two.assumptions.that.i.held

which.i.was.testing,

since.you.blew.away.my.other.assumption.about.HDTV

being.the.worst.

thanks.a.bunch.for.your.replies!

Tamara

[Guest guest]

Hi Tamara,

We can never go on what others react to--we all react to different

frequencies.  However, GENERALLY speaking, yes, we tolerate wired generally

better than wireless.  You are not wrong about that.  I think the point that

Marc is making is, there are exceptions to all the rules here--some things are

wired better than others.  Some wireless might be more tolerable than others. 

Pretty much, none of us have a clue when we buy something whether it is

ultimately going to work for us or not.  So, for that reason, try to find

sellers who return things easily.  I like, for instance,    www.qvc.com  

They have a firm 30 day return policy.  You can buy anything from there and use

it for 30 days and they will not charge a restocking fee.  Of course, they do

not always carry the particular brands/ items we are looking for.  But it is a

good place to try out various electronics if you are not particular as to the

brand or model.  I bought 2 vcrs from them and returned both before I found a

third which worked for me there, about 8 years ago.  Never had any problems

from them on returning anything--you can even return used cosmetics!  You do,

however, have to send the product back in a timely fashion after 30 days.  My

brother sent something back 50 days later and he did have a problem returning

it.  Always send your return

within 31 or 32 days after receiving, and you will never have a problem with

them. 

Hope it works out for you with the new imac.

Diane

 

From: allnatural_nut <all-natural-nut@...>

Subject: Re: which is worse for EMF--old TV or new Mac computer?

Date: Sunday, August 14, 2011, 1:22 PM

 

are.you.saying.that.you.react.to.the.old.technology,

but.the.new.HDTV.technology.is.fine.for.you??

boy,.there.sure.seems.to.be.a.lot.of.misinformation

out.there.then.

I.thought.that.the.HDTV.was.the.absolute.worst.in.terms

of.EMF. " pollution. "

at.least.the.HDTV.televisions.themselves.

and.i.was.under.the.impression.that.wired.items.were

vastly.better.than.wireless.items.in.terms.of.pollution.

Am.I.wrong?

Sorry.to.be.so. " newbie " .about.this.

and.sorry.about.my.typing.

(this.is.why.i.need.a.new.imac!!)

thanks.again!

Tamara