Re: Cannot tolerate minerals of any kind? What to DO?

[Guest guest]

Thanks Diane( I keep calling you Evie because I see it in your email..sorry). I

spent way too long yesterday on the computer. I could not sleep well afterward

and had terrible symptoms in the night. Somehow, I felt more sensitized to

energy.. even from other people, if that makes sense to anyone.

 

From: laurel canyon <laurelarc (DOT) com>

Subject: Cannot tolerate minerals of any kind? What to DO?

groups (DOT) com

Date: Monday, December 22, 2008, 2:36 PM

I have been unable to tolerate minerals of any kind since the EMF sensitivity

began about one year ago. If I take a mineral, it seems to draw the EMF right

into my body. I burn and sting terribly.. and depending upon where I am, it can

be quite torturous. I recently bought a magnesium chloride liquid. The

directions call for approx. 10 drops. All I can do is one drop and still, I can

feel increased stinging and burning.

 

This increased stinging and burning, after taking a mineral, also happens even

from certain people's energies. Someone told me they read an article that stated

how people's brains and hearts give off more EMF than devices(I am not sure

about that, but I do know that some people's energy/thoughts/ emotions have

caused me the same type of symptoms at times as that of some electronic

devices).

 

I feel at a loss because I have become so sensitive.. in a chemical sensitive

type of manner that I also am not tolerating vitamins and foods, etc. However,

the issue with minerals is different than a chemical sensitivity reaction. I

have never had anything like this before. I also seem to be unable to tolerate

being in a house with aluminum siding. I went to look at a small house for sale.

At the time, there were very little electrical appliances running(no furnace,

but perhaps a refrigerator) . While I stood and listened to the man explain a

few things about the house, I stung incredibly.. which was the first time a long

time since last being in a house with aluminum siding. I do have to say, that

the reaction to this house and another house with aluminum siding varied. I am

sure there are many variables I am unaware. That particular house was very close

to another house. Perhaps there was WIFI next door or some other aspect

undetectable to m.. I have

no idea.

 

I have noticed that if I am reacting to something else(ie food, chemical, etc),

the stinging also increases. I had spoken to a doctor one day over the phone who

told me she had quite a few clients who had the same issues, who were incredibly

sensitive to energy, EMF, chemicals, etc. She believed that those people were

riddled with holes in their auras.. causing them to be more susceptible to EMF.

I have a friend who has a device that video tapes the aura in real time and

shows the changes to the aura when exposed to certain items. I do not live near

him so I am unable to check this out for myself.

 

The issue of not being able to tolerate minerals of any kind has me a bit

baffled as to what to do. I am also not absorbing nutrients from my food. I had

my tongue read(taught in Chinese medicine) by an acupuncturist and an

iridologist, which showed a deep crack down the center of my tongue in which I

was told was indicative of poor assimilation and digestion of food. I used to be

able to tolerate enzymes. All I tolerate for now is papaya which helps with the

protein digestion. I have watched my health deteriorate this past year due to

the lack of nutrition. I know the minerals are important. I have even tried

's colloidal minerals, yet  just one drop was more than my body could

tolerate.

 

Does anyone else have any of these issues?? Perhaps some are intolerant of

minerals also, but have not noticed the correlation, especially if they have

been taking the minerals all along. I do tolerate flax seed oil, Vit. D3 and

CoQ10. I have been trying MMS(Miracle Mineral Supplement, but I have not

noticed any benefit yet from that. MMS is suppose to oxidize heavy metals from

the body, as well as kill many pathogens).

 

Thanks for " listening " . It is distressing to say the least. Life has become a

nightmare of such proportions that it does not even sink in. It has been much

too much to assimilate.. loss of home and property and no where safe to live nor

able to afford.

 

My, how life can suddenly change.

 

 

Laurel

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[Guest guest]

> While we are discussing this subject, does Cellfood address bad gut

> flora?  Just wondered.  I know you have said for a long time you like

> this product, but I assumed it was for its nutrient content, not

> necessarily for anything like bug killing. 

It creates extra oxygen in the body, so in that sense it will oxidize bugs.

Also, it is quite acidic when you take it, so this will help digestion

and also help good bacteria, which require an acidic environment.

And yet, even though it is acidic, it immediately raises my saliva

pH from 6 to 7 (neutral), which is where it should be.

But it does not have an probiotic content to it. Just an oxygen

catalyst, minerals, amino acids, and enzymes. And the enzymes are

so strong that if you spill some on cotton clothing, it will eat

a hole in the clothing! (I unfortunately have plenty of experience

with that aspect of the product)

Marc

[Guest guest]

> I am having a bad day and confused as hell, but I think Marc has

> convinced me that what I was using was not MMS but Miracle II soap or

> neutralizer.  But, nevertheless, it was not a good idea to use it as a

> soak either, obviously, since it scarred my neck. 

Actually, I have used the Miracle II soap in a bath, and if anything

it does make me feel better afterwards. I just don't have enough

baths for it to have had any definite effect!

Marc

[Guest guest]

Hi Amy,

 

Not exactly, but I have had that happen to me years ago. I had written a post

about that.. but decided not to send it to the group as I was rambling on too

long. If you or anyone is interested, the post explains, from my experience, how

being allergic to things, even one's own brain can cause what you describe.

Also, holes in the aura, head injury from a blow, chemical trauma, infection,

parasites.. can also cause what you describe..depending on the area of the brain

being affected. I used to experience overstimulation.. back then I called it

being in overwhelm and if I have a reaction that affects my brain in a certain

manner, I might experience that again.

 

 

Laurel

From: javamdnss@... <javamdnss@...>

Subject: Re: Cannot tolerate minerals of any kind? What to DO?

Received: Tuesday, 30 December, 2008, 6:02 PM

, laurelarc (DOT) com writes:

Somehow, I felt more sensitized to energy.. even from other people, if that

makes sense to anyone.

Do you mean being around other people for too long (which is not long at all

for me!) causes overstimulation in a bad way?

Amy

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Hi, Laurel,

 

Yes, I know of Dr. Fine.  He is quite controversial among celiac docs, but he

has a good rep with celiac patients, from what I have heard.  I understand re

your not being able to travel.  I cannot use public transportation of any kind,

nor can I stay in hotels, motels, or most B & Bs--and the B & Bs I can stay in are

very sparce and difficult to locate.  I cannot travel to Texas to see Dr. Fine

or Dr. Rae, but I can go to Baltimore because I am close enough to go by car

with my hubby driving and we will return home the same day--not saying it won't

be painful getting there and I will not have problems due to ES, but....) 

 

Dr. Fasano found approx. 1% of the population to have celiac disease by blood

testing of the blood bank supplies, but the 1 in 6 you speak of is at the

very least true of gluten intolerance (which is now thought to be just as

serious as celiac disease in most cases.)  And I do notice that all the various

health forums I have been apart of have a rather huge component of gluten

intolerant people in them (which probably means some of them are celiacs but not

aware of that).

 

Sorry that you cannot make the trip to Baltimore.  I noticed that Dr. Fasano's

staff had a doc referral service.  Perhaps they will know another way for you to

try the pill.  But I have no idea yet whether the pill will work or not for ES. 

(I will let you know how that goes!     )

 

Diane aka Evie

From: laurel canyon <laurelarc (DOT) com>

Subject: Cannot tolerate minerals of any kind? What to DO?

groups (DOT) com

Date: Monday, December 22, 2008, 2:36 PM

I have been unable to tolerate minerals of any kind since the EMF sensitivity

began about one year ago. If I take a mineral, it seems to draw the EMF right

into my body. I burn and sting terribly.. and depending upon where I am, it can

be quite torturous. I recently bought a magnesium chloride liquid. The

directions call for approx. 10 drops. All I can do is one drop and still, I can

feel increased stinging and burning.

 

This increased stinging and burning, after taking a mineral, also happens even

from certain people's energies. Someone told me they read an article that stated

how people's brains and hearts give off more EMF than devices(I am not sure

about that, but I do know that some people's energy/thoughts/ emotions have

caused me the same type of symptoms at times as that of some electronic

devices).

 

I feel at a loss because I have become so sensitive.. in a chemical sensitive

type of manner that I also am not tolerating vitamins and foods, etc. However,

the issue with minerals is different than a chemical sensitivity reaction. I

have never had anything like this before. I also seem to be unable to tolerate

being in a house with aluminum siding. I went to look at a small house for sale.

At the time, there were very little electrical appliances running(no furnace,

but perhaps a refrigerator) . While I stood and listened to the man explain a

few things about the house, I stung incredibly.. which was the first time a long

time since last being in a house with aluminum siding. I do have to say, that

the reaction to this house and another house with aluminum siding varied. I am

sure there are many variables I am unaware. That particular house was very close

to another house. Perhaps there was WIFI next door or some other aspect

undetectable to m.. I have

no idea.

 

I have noticed that if I am reacting to something else(ie food, chemical, etc),

the stinging also increases. I had spoken to a doctor one day over the phone who

told me she had quite a few clients who had the same issues, who were incredibly

sensitive to energy, EMF, chemicals, etc. She believed that those people were

riddled with holes in their auras.. causing them to be more susceptible to EMF.

I have a friend who has a device that video tapes the aura in real time and

shows the changes to the aura when exposed to certain items. I do not live near

him so I am unable to check this out for myself.

 

The issue of not being able to tolerate minerals of any kind has me a bit

baffled as to what to do. I am also not absorbing nutrients from my food. I had

my tongue read(taught in Chinese medicine) by an acupuncturist and an

iridologist, which showed a deep crack down the center of my tongue in which I

was told was indicative of poor assimilation and digestion of food. I used to be

able to tolerate enzymes. All I tolerate for now is papaya which helps with the

protein digestion. I have watched my health deteriorate this past year due to

the lack of nutrition. I know the minerals are important. I have even tried

's colloidal minerals, yet  just one drop was more than my body could

tolerate.

 

Does anyone else have any of these issues?? Perhaps some are intolerant of

minerals also, but have not noticed the correlation, especially if they have

been taking the minerals all along. I do tolerate flax seed oil, Vit. D3 and

CoQ10. I have been trying MMS(Miracle Mineral Supplement, but I have not noticed

any benefit yet from that. MMS is suppose to oxidize heavy metals from the body,

as well as kill many pathogens).

 

Thanks for " listening " . It is distressing to say the least. Life has become a

nightmare of such proportions that it does not even sink in. It has been much

too much to assimilate.. loss of home and property and no where safe to live nor

able to afford.

 

My, how life can suddenly change.

 

 

Laurel

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[Guest guest]

 

Sounds interesting!  Thanks Marc.  Tell me about spilling--I have hand tremors. 

 I have gone to flip a burger, and it ended up on the other side of the

room!  I am not sure I am a candidate for the Cell food for that reason.  lol 

Thanks for the heads up!

 

Diane

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: Cannot tolerate minerals of any kind? What to DO?

Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 2:52 PM

> While we are discussing this subject, does Cellfood address bad gut

> flora?  Just wondered.  I know you have said for a long time you like

> this product, but I assumed it was for its nutrient content, not

> necessarily for anything like bug killing. 

It creates extra oxygen in the body, so in that sense it will oxidize bugs.

Also, it is quite acidic when you take it, so this will help digestion

and also help good bacteria, which require an acidic environment.

And yet, even though it is acidic, it immediately raises my saliva

pH from 6 to 7 (neutral), which is where it should be.

But it does not have an probiotic content to it. Just an oxygen

catalyst, minerals, amino acids, and enzymes. And the enzymes are

so strong that if you spill some on cotton clothing, it will eat

a hole in the clothing! (I unfortunately have plenty of experience

with that aspect of the product)

Marc

[Guest guest]

It made my skin burn and turn bright red, in places it didn't seriously burn

me.  My neck was the only place it scarred permanently, but it was ouchy all

over.  Only used it once.  Interesting that you use it ok and you thought it

helped! 

 

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: Cannot tolerate minerals of any kind? What to DO?

Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 2:55 PM

> I am having a bad day and confused as hell, but I think Marc has

> convinced me that what I was using was not MMS but Miracle II soap or

> neutralizer.  But, nevertheless, it was not a good idea to use it as a

> soak either, obviously, since it scarred my neck. 

Actually, I have used the Miracle II soap in a bath, and if anything

it does make me feel better afterwards. I just don't have enough

baths for it to have had any definite effect!

Marc

[Guest guest]

Hi Amy,

 

That is what I mean re being around people.  I am anxious and feel like I might

jump out of my skin after being around even people I like, unless it is in a

very quiet atmosphere, one on one.  Nice to " see " you, btw. 

 

Diane

From: javamdnss@... <javamdnss@...>

Subject: Re: Cannot tolerate minerals of any kind? What to DO?

Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 6:02 PM

, laurelarc (DOT) com writes:

Somehow, I felt more sensitized to energy.. even from other people, if that

makes sense to anyone.

Do you mean being around other people for too long (which is not long at all

for me!) causes overstimulation in a bad way?

Amy

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Hi Diane,

 

I had always thought celiac sprue and gluten intolerance to be one and the same.

 

I have been told that a doc in my area has found that 1 in every 3 people he is

finding has celiac.

 

My concern about a drug would be.. 1) would I be able to tolerate it  2) Will

it make me more toxic and therefore exacerbate the chemical sensitivities  3)

Will there be side effects that would further undermine my health

 

laurel

 

 

From: laurel canyon <laurelarc (DOT) com>

Subject: Cannot tolerate minerals of any kind? What to DO?

groups (DOT) com

Date: Monday, December 22, 2008, 2:36 PM

I have been unable to tolerate minerals of any kind since the EMF sensitivity

began about one year ago. If I take a mineral, it seems to draw the EMF right

into my body. I burn and sting terribly.. and depending upon where I am, it can

be quite torturous. I recently bought a magnesium chloride liquid. The

directions call for approx. 10 drops. All I can do is one drop and still, I can

feel increased stinging and burning.

 

This increased stinging and burning, after taking a mineral, also happens even

from certain people's energies. Someone told me they read an article that stated

how people's brains and hearts give off more EMF than devices(I am not sure

about that, but I do know that some people's energy/thoughts/ emotions have

caused me the same type of symptoms at times as that of some electronic

devices).

 

I feel at a loss because I have become so sensitive.. in a chemical sensitive

type of manner that I also am not tolerating vitamins and foods, etc. However,

the issue with minerals is different than a chemical sensitivity reaction. I

have never had anything like this before. I also seem to be unable to tolerate

being in a house with aluminum siding. I went to look at a small house for sale.

At the time, there were very little electrical appliances running(no furnace,

but perhaps a refrigerator) . While I stood and listened to the man explain a

few things about the house, I stung incredibly.. which was the first time a long

time since last being in a house with aluminum siding. I do have to say, that

the reaction to this house and another house with aluminum siding varied. I am

sure there are many variables I am unaware. That particular house was very close

to another house. Perhaps there was WIFI next door or some other aspect

undetectable to m.. I have

no idea.

 

I have noticed that if I am reacting to something else(ie food, chemical, etc),

the stinging also increases. I had spoken to a doctor one day over the phone who

told me she had quite a few clients who had the same issues, who were incredibly

sensitive to energy, EMF, chemicals, etc. She believed that those people were

riddled with holes in their auras.. causing them to be more susceptible to EMF.

I have a friend who has a device that video tapes the aura in real time and

shows the changes to the aura when exposed to certain items. I do not live near

him so I am unable to check this out for myself.

 

The issue of not being able to tolerate minerals of any kind has me a bit

baffled as to what to do. I am also not absorbing nutrients from my food. I had

my tongue read(taught in Chinese medicine) by an acupuncturist and an

iridologist, which showed a deep crack down the center of my tongue in which I

was told was indicative of poor assimilation and digestion of food. I used to be

able to tolerate enzymes. All I tolerate for now is papaya which helps with the

protein digestion. I have watched my health deteriorate this past year due to

the lack of nutrition. I know the minerals are important. I have even tried

's colloidal minerals, yet  just one drop was more than my body could

tolerate.

 

Does anyone else have any of these issues?? Perhaps some are intolerant of

minerals also, but have not noticed the correlation, especially if they have

been taking the minerals all along. I do tolerate flax seed oil, Vit. D3 and

CoQ10. I have been trying MMS(Miracle Mineral Supplement, but I have not

noticed any benefit yet from that. MMS is suppose to oxidize heavy metals from

the body, as well as kill many pathogens).

 

Thanks for " listening " . It is distressing to say the least. Life has become a

nightmare of such proportions that it does not even sink in. It has been much

too much to assimilate.. loss of home and property and no where safe to live nor

able to afford.

 

My, how life can suddenly change.

 

 

Laurel

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[Guest guest]

Hi, Laurel,

 

Well, I am concerned also about the points you bring up about the drug--it is,

afterall, synthetic, and I am highly suspicious about anything man-made

anymore.  But, from the researching I have done, the tight junction problem

appears to be a huge key to the entire MCS/ES scenario. I know people who are

taking parasites to stop the immune dysfunction!  (I would never go there!)  And

others are at their wits end trying anything which they think will help.  I

don't want to go there, but Laurel, I feel I must--I am truly at that " where do

I go? " place.  I have 2 houses I cannot live in, all my belongings have had to

be scrapped and replaced (the pesticides do not disipate so I still react to

everything in my one house 3 years later).  Every other day I am reacting to

something new.  That is the problem with my newer house--someone in the

community bought something I react to now that I didn't react to when I bought

it.  It is likely wireless

something or other, because I react mainly nights and weekends--esp weekend

nights.  I have noticed that since this Christmas, I react to increasingly even

more places--like the road my parents live on.  Apparently someone there got a

wifi type Christmas present!  If I could physically get to Brazil, I think there

is a jungle there which would work for me, but other than that, what do you do? 

I personally see few choices here.

 

Celiac disease is a type of gluten intolerance, but there are other types of

gluten intolerance.  (Sorry, I apparently didn't word what I wrote correctly--I

should have said, " other gluten intolerance " .)  If you want to read some really

interesting things re celiac and gluten intolerance, do some searches for " Dr.

Hadjivassiliou and gluten intolerance " .  I fit his profile for broad spectrum

gluten intolerance even better than for celiac disease (even tho I was biopsy

dxed for celiac; but according to him, that means nothing--broad spectrum does

also cause gut damage). 

 

Here is a podcast from Neurology Today that I like to send around to people

who don't know much about gluten intolerance and think it is a silly,

nothing allergy.  (I posted it here 6 months or more ago for those who have been

here that long).  Scroll down to podcast #51: Neurology Believe It or Not.  It

is about Dr. Had's talk at the Neurology Convention in NYC last year.  It takes

25 or more mins, so listen when you are not in a hurry....

 

http://www.medicalnewspodcast.com/stat.html

 

My best to you,

Diane

 

From: laurel canyon <laurelarc (DOT) com>

Subject: Cannot tolerate minerals of any kind? What to DO?

groups (DOT) com

Date: Monday, December 22, 2008, 2:36 PM

I have been unable to tolerate minerals of any kind since the EMF sensitivity

began about one year ago. If I take a mineral, it seems to draw the EMF right

into my body. I burn and sting terribly.. and depending upon where I am, it can

be quite torturous. I recently bought a magnesium chloride liquid. The

directions call for approx. 10 drops. All I can do is one drop and still, I can

feel increased stinging and burning.

 

This increased stinging and burning, after taking a mineral, also happens even

from certain people's energies. Someone told me they read an article that stated

how people's brains and hearts give off more EMF than devices(I am not sure

about that, but I do know that some people's energy/thoughts/ emotions have

caused me the same type of symptoms at times as that of some electronic

devices).

 

I feel at a loss because I have become so sensitive.. in a chemical sensitive

type of manner that I also am not tolerating vitamins and foods, etc. However,

the issue with minerals is different than a chemical sensitivity reaction. I

have never had anything like this before. I also seem to be unable to tolerate

being in a house with aluminum siding. I went to look at a small house for sale.

At the time, there were very little electrical appliances running(no furnace,

but perhaps a refrigerator) . While I stood and listened to the man explain a

few things about the house, I stung incredibly.. which was the first time a long

time since last being in a house with aluminum siding. I do have to say, that

the reaction to this house and another house with aluminum siding varied. I am

sure there are many variables I am unaware. That particular house was very close

to another house. Perhaps there was WIFI next door or some other aspect

undetectable to m.. I have

no idea.

 

I have noticed that if I am reacting to something else(ie food, chemical, etc),

the stinging also increases. I had spoken to a doctor one day over the phone who

told me she had quite a few clients who had the same issues, who were incredibly

sensitive to energy, EMF, chemicals, etc. She believed that those people were

riddled with holes in their auras.. causing them to be more susceptible to EMF.

I have a friend who has a device that video tapes the aura in real time and

shows the changes to the aura when exposed to certain items. I do not live near

him so I am unable to check this out for myself.

 

The issue of not being able to tolerate minerals of any kind has me a bit

baffled as to what to do. I am also not absorbing nutrients from my food. I had

my tongue read(taught in Chinese medicine) by an acupuncturist and an

iridologist, which showed a deep crack down the center of my tongue in which I

was told was indicative of poor assimilation and digestion of food. I used to be

able to tolerate enzymes. All I tolerate for now is papaya which helps with the

protein digestion. I have watched my health deteriorate this past year due to

the lack of nutrition. I know the minerals are important. I have even tried

's colloidal minerals, yet  just one drop was more than my body could

tolerate.

 

Does anyone else have any of these issues?? Perhaps some are intolerant of

minerals also, but have not noticed the correlation, especially if they have

been taking the minerals all along. I do tolerate flax seed oil, Vit. D3 and

CoQ10. I have been trying MMS(Miracle Mineral Supplement, but I have not noticed

any benefit yet from that. MMS is suppose to oxidize heavy metals from the body,

as well as kill many pathogens).

 

Thanks for " listening " . It is distressing to say the least. Life has become a

nightmare of such proportions that it does not even sink in. It has been much

too much to assimilate.. loss of home and property and no where safe to live nor

able to afford.

 

My, how life can suddenly change.

 

 

Laurel

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