Guest guest Posted June 11, 2011 Report Share Posted June 11, 2011 Hi, Elysia,  Maybe you are detoxing due to the rose quartz or something else? Detoxing will always make your ES worse. Of course, once the detoxing is done and the crap is out of your body, it should help ES. I love rose quartz, btw. It helps me sleep when I am wide awake and have no idea how to unwind.  Diane From: charles <charles@...> Subject: Re: Re: EMF shileding products Date: Friday, June 10, 2011, 7:43 AM  Ho, ho, not so fast. There are a few things to consider. First of all, no gizmo is capable of changing anything to the elektrosmog. None can do that. The transversal waves, we can measure and shield, remain quite the same. However, the accompanying longitudnial waves, which we can not measure, may be absorbed by some gizmo's. Some do better, some do worse. If these longitudinal waves are absorbed, you may feel better. There are other gizmo's, which do nothing to the longitudinal waves, but may improve your damaged immune system. And when the immune system is repaired (temporarily), you may feel better. Of course it all depends on your personal condition. When you are too far gone, only gizmo's which may repair the damaged immune system, can give relief, and the longitudinal wave absorbers cannot do that. When you are a fair electrosensitive, you can profit from both the gizmo types. The human body has some vectors which are running in a certain direction. Some gizmo's can turn these vectors in the wrong direction, or too fast. One can experience then adverse effects. Also, the body must get used to the gizmo's; sometimes their working is too strong. In that case, leave them at a certain distance to the body, in order to get used to them, and then get them closer by time. A Trifield meter may be nice, but it cannot measure much. It has too much limitations. One should use its own personal meter, every electrosensitive owns; your own body. Do not pay attention what other people say. Listen to your own body, but take your time. Take your time. Wait till the adverse health effects are worn out, and then try again. Be aware that a lot of appliances do emit nasty frequencies, *dirty air*, which even Magda Havas cannot measure. I measure them between 1 kHz and 30 MHz, and they can be very nasty for electrosensitives. Greetings, Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Re: EMF shileding products Hi everyone, Thanks some really useful info here (I have tried ALOT too) I too think avoidance and doing as much as possible eg turning of electricity at the fuse box is the only thing that has helped, along with installing plastic piping to cut the stray current that travels up copper pipes and also reducing personal static eg not wearing fibre that holds static. I found my Qlink pendant definitely I find it more helpful on than off. I can feel after a while when I am not wearing it...I have also had it muscle tested for my self by a chiropractor. HOWEVER I just wanted to share my experience with many products at LESSEMF. DO NOT DO IT- their products in that realm between pure advertising GIMMICK and cheap dysfunctional junk that are of very poor quality and are not worth paying for as they do very little and you are better off without them. The reality of the actual product as compared to the promising descriptions in their catalogue leaves a lot to be desired. I have written to the company to express my displeasure with the many products I ordered and am waiting to see if there is any response/defence (which I will update you if there is. Interestingly I have a trifield meter and the shielding screen bought for my laptop and the shielding alloy for the base of my laptop MADE ABSOLUTELY no difference whether it was there or not. I feel completely ripped off and exploited. SHAME ON LESSEMF.COM for exploting vulnerable people with enough problems!!! Anyway just wanted to share and make sure nobody else gets ripped off like I have. as I am overseas as well it woudl cost a fortune to pay the sending back and " restocking " fee. Please spread the word to others to make sure nobody else gets exploited! cheers ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 > I would echo what Lizzie says in her post. I would be very very interested to > know about any product Dr Gruen might have - which might be of more benefit in > combatting ES. I have been wearing a bioprotect card for about 2 years Well, his product *is* the BioProtect card! If you want to learn more about it, I'd suggest reading this web page: http://golden-ray.com/index.php?option=com_content & view=article & id=5 & Itemid=14 Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 > I would very much > welcome an answer to this specific question since if the Bioprotect card isn't > helping me, and I am still being left exposed, then I should be looking for > something else which might be a better product. We all have our own unique sensitivities, and some people simply don't feel better using a BioProtect card. I've got one, but I never use it because I've never noticed feeling any better with it. Meanwhile, there are other products that I *do* notice feeling better with, so I of course use those! Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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