Guest guest Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 In a message dated 18/04/2011 00:22:41 GMT Daylight Time, shezatrip63@... writes: Sorry, this was supposed to go on my first post... please read that one, so you will understand it. Not only is my home of the charts, I thought I could find refuge in my nissan murano. When I turn the air on, it registers 25 Milligauss!! On the floor? 100!!!!! So, not only are we loosing our house...do I dump my car too??? HELP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 no just dont turn the air on, In a message dated 18/04/2011 00:22:41 GMT Daylight Time, shezatrip63@... writes: Sorry, this was supposed to go on my first post... please read that one, so you will understand it. Not only is my home of the charts, I thought I could find refuge in my nissan murano. When I turn the air on, it registers 25 Milligauss!! On the floor? 100!!!!! So, not only are we loosing our house...do I dump my car too??? HELP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 > no just dont turn the air on, > When I turn the air on, it registers 25 Milligauss!! Actually, does it really matter if there is a high EMF reading from the car fan being on? I don't think the EMF from motors is very harmful, despite the reading on the meter. It's more often the high frequency square waves ( " pulsed signals " ) that cause the most damage, but those frequencies come from wi-fi, cell phones, computers, TVs, " high efficiency " electronics, etc. Not motors. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 Ever feel a refrigerator? It hurts, badly. That's an electric motor. Eli > > > no just dont turn the air on, > > > When I turn the air on, it registers 25 Milligauss!! > > Actually, does it really matter if there is a high EMF reading > from the car fan being on? I don't think the EMF from motors is > very harmful, despite the reading on the meter. > > It's more often the high frequency square waves ( " pulsed signals " ) > that cause the most damage, but those frequencies come from wi-fi, > cell phones, computers, TVs, " high efficiency " electronics, etc. > Not motors. > > Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 > Ever feel a refrigerator? It hurts, badly. > That's an electric motor. I thought people mostly complained about NEW refrigerators, which presumably have something in them in addition to an electric motor? But to answer your question, no, I have never noticed any symptoms from any of the refrigerators I've owned (although the one I have now must be 10+ years old) Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 I'm in Arizona 120 degree heat! > > no just dont turn the air on, > > > In a message dated 18/04/2011 00:22:41 GMT Daylight Time, > shezatrip63@... writes: > > > > > Sorry, this was supposed to go on my first post... > please read that one, so you will understand it. > > Not only is my home of the charts, I thought I could find refuge > in my nissan murano. When I turn the air on, it registers 25 Milligauss!! > On the floor? 100!!!!! > So, not only are we loosing our house...do I dump my car too??? > > HELP > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 Good! Because the readings scared the crud out of me! 100 on the floor! > > > no just dont turn the air on, > > > When I turn the air on, it registers 25 Milligauss!! > > Actually, does it really matter if there is a high EMF reading > from the car fan being on? I don't think the EMF from motors is > very harmful, despite the reading on the meter. > > It's more often the high frequency square waves ( " pulsed signals " ) > that cause the most damage, but those frequencies come from wi-fi, > cell phones, computers, TVs, " high efficiency " electronics, etc. > Not motors. > > Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 I don't know if I have symptoms from my car...I just wasn't sure why the reading is so high! ARe there EMFs in a car? My car readings are 6 milligauss without air, 25 with air..and 100 on the floor. Every other car I have read/is half of that. thoughts? Is that bad for health? > > > Ever feel a refrigerator? It hurts, badly. > > That's an electric motor. > > I thought people mostly complained about NEW refrigerators, > which presumably have something in them in addition to > an electric motor? > > But to answer your question, no, I have never noticed any > symptoms from any of the refrigerators I've owned > (although the one I have now must be 10+ years old) > > Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 Yes my fridge kills me but when I was staying in a remote area the older one did not bother me at all. LOni From: Marc <marc@...> Subject: Re: Re: Power lines, and car Date: Monday, April 18, 2011, 8:08 AM  > Ever feel a refrigerator? It hurts, badly. > That's an electric motor. I thought people mostly complained about NEW refrigerators, which presumably have something in them in addition to an electric motor? But to answer your question, no, I have never noticed any symptoms from any of the refrigerators I've owned (although the one I have now must be 10+ years old) Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 sorry did not realize your locat - re your query re staying longer, that's got to be your call, you have to do the maths.....certainly finding a place in your home to sleep with the lowest emf readings would be a good start. In a message dated 18/04/2011 22:41:04 GMT Daylight Time, shezatrip63@... writes: I'm in Arizona 120 degree heat! > > no just dont turn the air on, > > > In a message dated 18/04/2011 00:22:41 GMT Daylight Time, > shezatrip63@... writes: > > > > > Sorry, this was supposed to go on my first post... > please read that one, so you will understand it. > > Not only is my home of the charts, I thought I could find refuge > in my nissan murano. When I turn the air on, it registers 25 Milligauss!! > On the floor? 100!!!!! > So, not only are we loosing our house...do I dump my car too??? > > HELP > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 for now just deal with the biggest threat, looks like your proximity to the lines from what you are saying is the golden bebe In a message dated 18/04/2011 19:49:16 GMT Daylight Time, shezatrip63@... writes: I don't know if I have symptoms from my car...I just wasn't sure why the reading is so high! ARe there EMFs in a car? My car readings are 6 milligauss without air, 25 with air..and 100 on the floor. Every other car I have read/is half of that. thoughts? Is that bad for health? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 I react to my car too. I get a burning sensation. Maureen ____________________________________________________________ Groupon & #8482 Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city & #39;s best! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4dada20646f39b35bdst04duc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 Marc wrote: > Actually, does it really matter if there is a high EMF reading > from the car fan being on? I don't think the EMF from motors is > very harmful, despite the reading on the meter. > > It is likely the field being measured is not from the gasoline solid block of iron motor, but the wiring in the car, the amperage between the generator and the battery, and if it is a new hybrid car, then the high-high voltage between the batteries and the 4 electrical motors on each wheel. Not to mention the coils in the heated seat, electrical loops and paths through the frame, and whatever other accessory that is on. > It's more often the high frequency square waves ( " pulsed signals " ) > that cause the most damage, but those frequencies come from wi-fi, > cell phones, computers, TVs, " high efficiency " electronics, etc. > Not motors. > The electrical winding in motors do create a magnetic field, that at least for me is a definite avoid. Just moving the fridge 6 inches from the bedroom wall may indeed make a significant difference, but it would be better to have the bed on the opposite wall anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 Hi Eli,  I can be around old fridges quite happily. It is not the motor which bothers me. It is likely the Energy Star pulsed electricity or non-mechanical settings which they now put on all the fridges which wigs me out. I own an old car. It runs by motor. It doesn't bother me, but the new cars do.  Diane From: ahappyhabitat <ahappyhabitat@...> Subject: Re: Power lines, and car Date: Monday, April 18, 2011, 10:44 AM  Ever feel a refrigerator? It hurts, badly. That's an electric motor. Eli > > > no just dont turn the air on, > > > When I turn the air on, it registers 25 Milligauss!! > > Actually, does it really matter if there is a high EMF reading > from the car fan being on? I don't think the EMF from motors is > very harmful, despite the reading on the meter. > > It's more often the high frequency square waves ( " pulsed signals " ) > that cause the most damage, but those frequencies come from wi-fi, > cell phones, computers, TVs, " high efficiency " electronics, etc. > Not motors. > > Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 Actually Marc,  Some fans do bother me. It depends on whether you are sensitive to vibrations or not.  Diane From: shezatrip63 <shezatrip63@...> Subject: Re: Power lines, and car Date: Monday, April 18, 2011, 12:23 PM  Good! Because the readings scared the crud out of me! 100 on the floor! > > > no just dont turn the air on, > > > When I turn the air on, it registers 25 Milligauss!! > > Actually, does it really matter if there is a high EMF reading > from the car fan being on? I don't think the EMF from motors is > very harmful, despite the reading on the meter. > > It's more often the high frequency square waves ( " pulsed signals " ) > that cause the most damage, but those frequencies come from wi-fi, > cell phones, computers, TVs, " high efficiency " electronics, etc. > Not motors. > > Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 OOOPS, should have added.....  But you are right, it is likely other changes in newer cars, such as digital frequencies and wireless are the cause. Diane From: shezatrip63 <shezatrip63@...> Subject: Re: Power lines, and car Date: Monday, April 18, 2011, 12:23 PM  Good! Because the readings scared the crud out of me! 100 on the floor! > > > no just dont turn the air on, > > > When I turn the air on, it registers 25 Milligauss!! > > Actually, does it really matter if there is a high EMF reading > from the car fan being on? I don't think the EMF from motors is > very harmful, despite the reading on the meter. > > It's more often the high frequency square waves ( " pulsed signals " ) > that cause the most damage, but those frequencies come from wi-fi, > cell phones, computers, TVs, " high efficiency " electronics, etc. > Not motors. > > Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 Evie wrote: > Some fans do bother me. It depends on whether you are sensitive to vibrations or not. > I have seen fans make magnetic fields across a wide range of distances, 12 feet to 1 foot radius. Electric fields too. The engineering and quality of the windings are very likely to be the cause for differing sensitivities to different motors. I don't discount vibrations as a potential problem, look at the new wind-turbine power generators as a nasty example regarding Very Low Frequencies, but for little motors, I still lean toward blaming magnetic and electric fields. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 Car fans do create harmful frequencies. i know that because Dave Stetzer told me so and also because when I was a human sensor for a time (terribly, immediately sensitive with spasms as soon as exposed), the moment a car fan was turned on I had syptoms. Ditto for the tape deck. I drove in a very cold, silent car in our Wisconsin winters! Shivani www.LifeEnergies.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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