Re: Re: Why then am I so sick?

February 17, 2011

puk replies - perhaps detox is only a small fraction of the equation, just

as you start to mobilise toxins you get another load in its place, so you

get saddled by a double burden, detox is perhaps only safe if you remove

yourself from the antagonising factor, in your case EMF, so where to go ?

perhaps tibet ?

In a message dated 17/02/2011 21:42:07 GMT Standard Time,

lindameetoo@... writes:

had my fillings removed, last year. Whenever I do a detox I get really

sick. Like I'm going to die. I can take alpha lipoic acid no reaction. I'm

drinking ionized water (My real estate agent is giving me. I think I am

detoxing with it. I'm feeling sickly all the time. She said it helped her

friend

that has fibromyalgia. I haven't felt a difference in almost 3 months of

drinking it. I had a bunch of blood work done about 3 years ago. It didn't

show up any abnormalities. I think they did a heavy metal test. I still think

I'm toxic. Test...What are test. They mean nothing to me. What I feel

means more to me then what a test says. Sorry my thoughts are choppy.

February 18, 2011

I have heard that drinking alkaline water isn't necessarily good for us. I read

this on Dr. Mercola. I think having a good water purifer is important, even

putting filter on the shower head.

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February 18, 2011

> Make sure you're using Andy Cutler's safe dosing of ALA & protocol.

Yes, but said that she had no reaction to taking ALA. That

would indicate to me that ALA may not even be helpful to her.

The primary purpose for ALA in a heavy metal detox is to remove

mercury from the body, but there could be many other metals

or parasites contributing to ES.

Marc

February 18, 2011

> I have heard that drinking alkaline water isn't necessarily good for us.

> I read this on Dr. Mercola. I think having a good water purifer is

> important, even putting filter on the shower head.

Yes, the whole Alkaline/Acid thing is quite confusing and controversial.

Saying that we are " too acidic " is meaningless without referencing which

part of the body you are talking about. For example, the blood

CANNOT be acidic, because it is kept in a very narrow (alkaline)

range. Also, the stomach NEEDS to be acidic during digestion,

otherwise you won't digest your food properly. I'd think that

drinking alkaline water would interfere with digestion (although

it'd be okay on an empty stomach).

Marc

February 18, 2011

> Why are most pushing lowering PH? I read somewhere the body needs to be

> acidic side to detox?

I won't pretend to understand the pH issue. I know that there are

people advocating various things, but these things aren't necessarily

correct or applicable to us.

That said, I have gotten temporary ES symptom relief by drinking

alkaline water (water mixed with Megahydrate powder). But this also

causes me stomach bloat, so my digestive tract is not that happy

with this solution.

Marc

February 18, 2011

I think the Cutler protocol is too much for ES people. I think a much

lower dose is better so the metals and crap isn't moved around the

body from organ to organ, stomach to brain.

Rebuilding the stomach lining and blood brain barrier should be first

before any chelation.

Research what supports the liver getting its own glutamine production

up as well as supplementing with glutamine powder first.

There are libraries of information on this and I am in overwhelm with

my own story and research into this and don't have a definitive answer

yet but know that chelation is not the best thing to do first when sick.

On Feb 18, 2011, at 11:26 AM, KathyB wrote:

>

> Make sure you're using Andy Cutler's safe dosing of ALA & protocol.

>

> He believes you have to take ALA in rounds of 3 - 4 days around the

> clock before the 1/2 life expires, believe that's every 3-4 hours.

>

> You have to supplement to support your body during chelation. It

> takes a a while get it out.

>

> http://www.noamalgam.com/

>

> There are of those w experience to guide

> you

>

> frequent-dose-chelation

>

> Or adult chelation group

>

> Kathy

>

> lindameetoo@... writes:

>

> had my fillings removed, last year. Whenever I do a detox I get

> really

>

> sick. Like I'm going to die. I can take alpha lipoic acid no

> reaction. I'm

>

> drinking ionized water (My real estate agent is giving me. I think

> I am

>

> detoxing with it. I'm feeling sickly all the time. She said it

> helped her friend

>

> that has fibromyalgia. I haven't felt a difference in almost 3

> months of

>

> drinking it. I had a bunch of blood work done about 3 years ago. It

> didn't

>

> show up any abnormalities. I think they did a heavy metal test. I

> still think

>

> I'm toxic. Test...What are test. They mean nothing to me. What I feel

>

> means more to me then what a test says. Sorry my thoughts are

> choppy.

>

February 18, 2011

> I think the Cutler protocol is too much for ES people. I think a much

> lower dose is better so the metals and crap isn't moved around the

> body from organ to organ, stomach to brain.

The Cutler protocol doesn't force you into a high dose... in fact,

there are some people on the discussion groups that only take

1 mg of ALA every 3 hours, which is an absurdly low dose!

(in my local drugstore, they sell 600mg ALA capsules, which is

600 times more than what these people are taking)

The recommended " typical " start dose is 12mg of ALA every 3 hours,

however I think ES folks would be wise to start with less than

that -- maybe somewhere in the 1 - 6 mg range.

Marc

February 18, 2011

> Your body is ideally 7.4 pH. And that's also when the body will detox

> best.

You cannot assign a single pH value to the entire body. The body

has different pH's throughout. The ideal pH in one part

of the body is different than it is in another part of the body.

I guess when talking about pH, people should stick to something

easily measurable and potentially meaningful, like early morning

salivary pH. I think urine pH is largely useless, as it varies

depending on what you've been eating the day before.

Marc

February 18, 2011

Interesting; I have osteoporosis. Have to read up. Loni

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Subject: Re: Why then am I so sick?

Date: Friday, February 18, 2011, 1:38 PM

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I think the pH-discussion is extremely interesting, and yes, definitely

complicated! Well anything that is holistic is easy to comprehend imo!

There's a difference between the pH of water you drink and the effect on your

body, raising your pH-value is imo more complicated than consuming alkaline

water/food.

Your body will do anything to make sure blood is always in perfect pH-range

indeed, but if it is too acidic due to toxins for instance it does rob minerals

from your bones and/or organs, to make it more alkaline... That may cause

degenerative bones (= osteoporosis = low pH/voltage) or degenerative organs (=

low pH/voltage).

Dr Jerry Tennant has got a very good insight on pH/voltage. And he links that

with every aspect of health/illness.

Imo his theory/book is the best out there to give you insight on health.

I'm not a fan of his biomodulator-therapy by the way.

I've posted here on Tennant already quite a lot, a couple of months ago.

Anybody who wants to read more about this read my older posts, buy his book or

go to his website for a short intro and click on integrative medicine:

www.tennantinstitute.com

Tennant says that chronic sickness (in any way) is always accompanied with

globally too low pH/acidic (= too little voltage). Tennant measures that by a

voltmeter on different energy points (quite similar to the chakra points) on the

body, he takes the average of these points.

That's why it is so difficult to get better if you're chronically ill, your body

hasn't get enough voltage/energy/chi to get the things done. In that case he

recommends to work slowly on raising body voltage (directly and indirectly).

This also explains why a lot of people can't detox as fast as healthy people, or

why they (me included!) have so many side effects from every therapy. Side

effects that are often worse than the cure...

Tennant also checks pH/voltage locally. You can have local areas of inflammation

(= alkaline = too much voltage) and body parts that are degenerating (= too

acidic = too little voltage).

Pain is always related to imperfect pH/voltage locally. Health problems are

always related to imperfect pH/voltage locally or in the entire body...

>

> > I have heard that drinking alkaline water isn't necessarily good for us.

> > I read this on Dr. Mercola. I think having a good water purifer is

> > important, even putting filter on the shower head.

>

> Yes, the whole Alkaline/Acid thing is quite confusing and controversial.

> Saying that we are " too acidic " is meaningless without referencing which

> part of the body you are talking about. For example, the blood

> CANNOT be acidic, because it is kept in a very narrow (alkaline)

> range. Also, the stomach NEEDS to be acidic during digestion,

> otherwise you won't digest your food properly. I'd think that

> drinking alkaline water would interfere with digestion (although

> it'd be okay on an empty stomach).

>

> Marc

>

February 18, 2011

So how do you heal the blood brain barrier? I react to ALA but need to