smart meter

[Guest guest]

From my study of the celphone coverage maps, I don't see Amish country

being any different.

Only out west are there gaps in coverage (in the usa).

Loni wrote:

> Ya I thought about becoming Amish too. Use no electricity! I like tv &

computer too much so I guess it won't work. Darn! Loni

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[Guest guest]

Public Utilities Commission won't delay PG & E SmartMeter installation:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=%2Fc%2Fa%2F2010%2F12%2F02%2FBUS71GL2\

UF.DTL

[Guest guest]

Well maybe the have cell antennas but they don't use electricity & the burden

would be way diminished living in an Amish area.  Loni

> Ya I thought about becoming Amish too. Use no electricity! I like tv &

computer too much so I guess it won't work. Darn! Loni

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[Guest guest]

Unfortunately some of those groups have caved too. I've seen them occassionally

in the store with cellphone in hand. But still, it would be less of that stuff

near them I'd think, if there was no tower in the near vicinity.

I was surprised a few years ago when I learned they - at least some, went to

propane heat instead of wood exclusively.

~ Snoshoe

> > Ya I thought about becoming Amish too. Use no electricity! I like tv &

computer too much so I guess it won't work. Darn! Loni

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

 

Even the Amish are irradiated here!  While I have no first hand knowledge that

this is true, I have been told by a building biologist that some of the Amish

rent their land to phone companies for cell tower sites!  Rather ironic, don't

you think? 

 

Diane

From: lindameetoo <lindameetoo@...>

Subject: Re: smart meter

Date: Friday, December 3, 2010, 8:14 PM

 

I'm trying to sell this house. Maybe I'll move to the high desert, get some

solar panels and get off the grid. There is a lot of wind, so I could put up a

windmill. Or maybe move to Pennsylvania (become Amish) :-)

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> Subject: smart meter

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> The electric company just installed the smart meter at my house about 3 weeks

ago. I tried to get them to take it out. They would not. It is awful. I can't go

to that side of the house. I get sick to my stomach and a really bad headache. I

can hear when it is transmitting. The hissing in my ears changes pitch. My skin

is burning all the time now. The jitteriness is never ending. My blood sugar is

high, blood pressure is high.

> I found out I have 80 cell towers and 218 antenna around my house. Just added

joy to the power lines and transformer in my driveway. My husband finally

believes me. He put the house on the market. I hope it will sell. I really need

to move. 12 plus years of this agony. It is so bad now that I am so over

whelmed. I have tried all the gadgets and snake oil that I could afford. I need

to move.

> It doesn't feel any better to tell all, how awful it is to be ES. Everywhere I

go is toxic. :-(

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Maybe they are not touching the (unclean thing), but it is touching them. That

is so ironic. Greed for the Almighty buck is killing this world and most don't

even realize it. I have been supercharged all day. I don't know how long this

body of mind can take this. I haven't felt normal (good) in a while. I had 3 or

4 days the summer before last that I felt good. This SUCKS! Every where I go now

makes me sick. My symptoms are pretty much constant now.I hope that someone buys

my house soon. I am smiling through all my suffering.

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> > From: lindameetoo <lindameetoo@>

> > Subject: smart meter

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> > The electric company just installed the smart meter at my house about 3

weeks ago. I tried to get them to take it out. They would not. It is awful. I

can't go to that side of the house. I get sick to my stomach and a really bad

headache. I can hear when it is transmitting. The hissing in my ears changes

pitch. My skin is burning all the time now. The jitteriness is never ending. My

blood sugar is high, blood pressure is high.

> > I found out I have 80 cell towers and 218 antenna around my house. Just

added joy to the power lines and transformer in my driveway. My husband finally

believes me. He put the house on the market. I hope it will sell. I really need

to move. 12 plus years of this agony. It is so bad now that I am so over

whelmed. I have tried all the gadgets and snake oil that I could afford. I need

to move.

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I go is toxic. :-(

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[Guest guest]

I have had a few people look. They like my house,but I don't have any offers

yet. The places where I am looking to move have 4 cell towers around the

property rater than 79. 7 antenna rater than 218. I have to be careful because

they do have the transmission lines running through the area. I hope 2 or 3

miles is far enough away. It in the high desert. I feel so sick all the time. I

hope I'm not too late. I hope my body can detox from all this dirty energy.

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> > From: Marc <marc@>

> > Subject: Re: Re: smart meter

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> > Date: Thursday, December 2, 2010, 12:54 PM

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> > Moving to an area without many neighbors should help. If it's remote

> > enough, the power company may not even be able to justify putting in

> > a smart meter.

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> > Also, I think there are only a few states in the USA that currently

> > have these wireless smart meters? I've personally never seen one

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[Guest guest]

Hi, ,

 

I hope you can find a good home with a healing environment, Dear.  I hate to

dash your hopes in the house you have looked into, but if there are 4 towers in

each direction from that house, it might do more damage than more towers coming

from one direction.  (You might be caught in the cross fire.)  Here, when I

go thru the middle of an area with 3+ towers, it magnifies the emfs alot.  It

also makes it much more difficult to shield from. 

 

Hope you have time to consider other options,

Diane

From: lindameetoo <lindameetoo@...>

Subject: Re: smart meter

Date: Friday, December 10, 2010, 6:49 PM

 

I have had a few people look. They like my house,but I don't have any offers

yet. The places where I am looking to move have 4 cell towers around the

property rater than 79. 7 antenna rater than 218. I have to be careful because

they do have the transmission lines running through the area. I hope 2 or 3

miles is far enough away. It in the high desert. I feel so sick all the time. I

hope I'm not too late. I hope my body can detox from all this dirty energy.

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[Guest guest]

Hi all,

Has anybody been able to Hear what the smart meters are broadcasting?

The only video on Youtube I can find is measuring with the Gigahertz

Solutions HF-35C, which in my opinion is not very useful, as it sounds

like someone revving an engine, vrooom, vroooom... and not true analysis

of the signals.

I can't understand what is so different about the smart meters making

people become hypersensitive so quickly, as " everybody " has already been

exposing their bodies with celphones, wifi, and wii, so what is so

different this time?

So has anybody in California or Ontario recorded the audio from an

Acoustimeter or MW1 ?

Thanks

[Guest guest]

> I can't understand what is so different about the smart meters making

> people become hypersensitive so quickly, as " everybody " has already been

> exposing their bodies with celphones, wifi, and wii, so what is so

> different this time?

Perhaps because it's inline with the electricity going into the house?

And this added dirty electricity is going into every house in the

neighborhood?

Marc

[Guest guest]

I can tell you from a sensitivity standpoint it was deadly. The cell antennas

are at least not on your house. The smart meters are & then you have all your

neighbors communicating & sending signals. I seriously couldn't stay in this

house. Loni

From: S son <sandreas41@...>

Subject: Re: Re: smart meter

Date: Monday, December 13, 2010, 2:17 PM

 

Hi all,

Has anybody been able to Hear what the smart meters are broadcasting?

The only video on Youtube I can find is measuring with the Gigahertz

Solutions HF-35C, which in my opinion is not very useful, as it sounds

like someone revving an engine, vrooom, vroooom... and not true analysis

of the signals.

I can't understand what is so different about the smart meters making

people become hypersensitive so quickly, as " everybody " has already been

exposing their bodies with celphones, wifi, and wii, so what is so

different this time?

So has anybody in California or Ontario recorded the audio from an

Acoustimeter or MW1 ?

Thanks

[Guest guest]

Loni wrote:

> I can tell you from a sensitivity standpoint it was deadly. The cell antennas

are at least not on your house.

No, but WiFi routers are in the house. And from the power levels I could

see on that youtube video, it looked similar. Can't really tell without

using the same meter brand & model. Then I could compare x power at y feet.

> The smart meters are & then you have all your neighbors communicating &

sending signals. I seriously couldn't stay in this house. Loni

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Right, at least cel phones are not on all day. WiFi is. I can't stay

within 600 feet of any Wifi without feeling it. 100-200 feet bring on

faster symptoms, and inside was indeed deadly.

I'm just mystified how the smart meters are transmitting differently

from Wifi, and if they are not, then why the different biological response.

[Guest guest]

> > I can tell you from a sensitivity standpoint it was deadly. The cell

antennas are at least not on your house.

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> No, but WiFi routers are in the house. And from the power levels I could

> see on that youtube video, it looked similar.

Have we established that Loni can tolerate Wi-Fi in her house?

Maybe she *is* reacting the same to the smart meter as Wi-Fi

in her house...

Marc

[Guest guest]

How do you make sure the wi-fi connection is truly disabled?

What does it mean when there's static on a landline?

I need to talk or email w someone w experience. We have a lot of things to fix

here after Christmas. If anyone has time, please email.

Thanks, Kathy

calicocat477@...

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: Re: smart meter

Date: Tuesday, December 14, 2010, 12:53 PM

 

> > I can tell you from a sensitivity standpoint it was deadly. The cell

antennas are at least not on your house.

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> No, but WiFi routers are in the house. And from the power levels I could

> see on that youtube video, it looked similar.

Have we established that Loni can tolerate Wi-Fi in her house?

Maybe she *is* reacting the same to the smart meter as Wi-Fi

in her house...

Marc

[Guest guest]

Hi Everyone: Here is a link to a doc. that may be helpful in determining the

amount of EMF given off by Smart Meters in your areas.

http://www.sdge.com/documents/smartmeter/RF_Exposure_Levels_from_Smart_Meters_EP\

RI_11-17-2010.pdf

I hope this doc will help answer some of the questions the group has.

I to have electrical sensitivities along with food and chemical sensitivity

issues. My electrical sensitivities appear to be different from those described

by the group. I am sensitive to radiation that produced by a direct current

power source that is + ( positive ) charged. I appear to have no problem with

any DC source that is - (negative) charged. I would like to hear from members of

the group that may have similar sensitivities.

[Guest guest]

Well I don't know about wifi because i don't have it, however, I could be

reacting to my neighbor's. I suppose if I had it in the house it could be just

as bad as smart meters for me?!!!!  Loni

> I can tell you from a sensitivity standpoint it was deadly. The cell antennas

are at least not on your house.

No, but WiFi routers are in the house. And from the power levels I could

see on that youtube video, it looked similar. Can't really tell without

using the same meter brand & model. Then I could compare x power at y feet.

> The smart meters are & then you have all your neighbors communicating &

sending signals. I seriously couldn't stay in this house. Loni

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Right, at least cel phones are not on all day. WiFi is. I can't stay

within 600 feet of any Wifi without feeling it. 100-200 feet bring on

faster symptoms, and inside was indeed deadly.

I'm just mystified how the smart meters are transmitting differently

from Wifi, and if they are not, then why the different biological response.

[Guest guest]

Don't believe anything SDGE says

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> Hi Everyone: Here is a link to a doc. that may be helpful in determining the

amount of EMF given off by Smart Meters in your areas.

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http://www.sdge.com/documents/smartmeter/RF_Exposure_Levels_from_Smart_Meters_EP\

RI_11-17-2010.pdf

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> I hope this doc will help answer some of the questions the group has.

> I to have electrical sensitivities along with food and chemical sensitivity

issues. My electrical sensitivities appear to be different from those described

by the group. I am sensitive to radiation that produced by a direct current

power source that is + ( positive ) charged. I appear to have no problem with

any DC source that is - (negative) charged. I would like to hear from members of

the group that may have similar sensitivities.

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[Guest guest]

I just had the EMF guys from the smart meter department come to my house to do

reading. Everything is below normal. The EMF reading of my house was way lower

than the last reading I had done a few years ago. I guess I need to check myself

in to a facility, for wacko's, because My house is the safest place on the

planet according to them. I don't think the (my meter reader is bigger than

yours), was measuring correctly. I told them I didn't think they were measuring

the thing, that is making me so sick,or maybe it's a combination of things. I

was very disappointed. I got really disoriented and nauseated while they were

having a signal sent to test the meter, about a dozen times. I am really bummed.

I wanted some kind of proof that I wasn't wacko. Boo Hoo.

[Guest guest]

Hi: Here are some thoughts from an Old Electrician.

Were you able to obtain a copy of the readings taken at your home by the Smart

Meter Technician.

What type of instrument and procedure did he use to obtain the readings.

[Guest guest]

Hi

They had this big Yellow meter with a big arm in the middle. They could read how

much cell, wifi, emf, and ambient ??? that was in my house. There was a quarter

inch to half inch spike on the read out that they said was a baby monitor or

something. We don't have any babies in my neighborhood that I know of. I feel

bad for the baby if They could pick up a reading from it this far away. Mostly

they were measuring the 900 mhz frequency. The EMF meter was a hand held device,

Digital that read something? I didn't see what he was measuring. I just know

that the readings were really low. I had a measuring device last year, The

reading were 2.5 in the house and 9.2 in the yard under the power lines and by

the transformer. He said they were really low now. I didn't see what the reading

were, on the EMF just what he wrote down. I wasn't with him when he took the

measurements. I do have a copy of the reading that they took.

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> Hi: Here are some thoughts from an Old Electrician.

> Were you able to obtain a copy of the readings taken at your home by the Smart

Meter Technician.

> What type of instrument and procedure did he use to obtain the readings.

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[Guest guest]

Well first mistake was expecting that the utility do the testing. Second we are

much more sensitive than any testing equipment. Before the smart meters my

readings were not too bad after installing the window sheilding but I am still

being fried.

 

Don't trust the testing so much.  Loni

From: lindameetoo <lindameetoo@...>

Subject: smart meter

Date: Tuesday, January 18, 2011, 2:37 PM

 

I just had the EMF guys from the smart meter department come to my house to do

reading. Everything is below normal. The EMF reading of my house was way lower

than the last reading I had done a few years ago. I guess I need to check myself

in to a facility, for wacko's, because My house is the safest place on the

planet according to them. I don't think the (my meter reader is bigger than

yours), was measuring correctly. I told them I didn't think they were measuring

the thing, that is making me so sick,or maybe it's a combination of things. I

was very disappointed. I got really disoriented and nauseated while they were

having a signal sent to test the meter, about a dozen times. I am really bummed.

I wanted some kind of proof that I wasn't wacko. Boo Hoo.

[Guest guest]

My neighbor has a baby monitor & I wonder if that is adding to my misery. How

would I measure that sort of thing?  Loni

From: lindameetoo <lindameetoo@...>

Subject: Re: smart meter

Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 3:37 PM

 

Hi

They had this big Yellow meter with a big arm in the middle. They could read how

much cell, wifi, emf, and ambient ??? that was in my house. There was a quarter

inch to half inch spike on the read out that they said was a baby monitor or

something. We don't have any babies in my neighborhood that I know of. I feel

bad for the baby if They could pick up a reading from it this far away. Mostly

they were measuring the 900 mhz frequency. The EMF meter was a hand held device,

Digital that read something? I didn't see what he was measuring. I just know

that the readings were really low. I had a measuring device last year, The

reading were 2.5 in the house and 9.2 in the yard under the power lines and by

the transformer. He said they were really low now. I didn't see what the reading

were, on the EMF just what he wrote down. I wasn't with him when he took the

measurements. I do have a copy of the reading that they took.

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> Hi: Here are some thoughts from an Old Electrician.

> Were you able to obtain a copy of the readings taken at your home by the Smart

Meter Technician.

> What type of instrument and procedure did he use to obtain the readings.

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[Guest guest]

The big yellow meter thingy, measured ambient measurements of ?????. One of the

higher spikes on the meter, they said was probably a baby monitor or a

Surveillance system. I know that baby monitors are bad for us and for babies. I

hope that she stops using it.

I complained to the electric company about the smart meter making me more sick

than I already am. They just came out to tell me I was wacko and my home was

perfectly safe. They left a 10 year old research booklet on how safe it was and

one on EMF and the reading from the Big yellow meter thingy. I have to be

goofy or I would go wacko. They were really nice, but wrong. I went back and

read what I wrote just now. My mind does not flow smoothly. I hope you can get

the jest of what I was trying to say. I have noticed that the brain fog is much

worse lately.

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> > Were you able to obtain a copy of the readings taken at your home by the

Smart Meter Technician.

> > What type of instrument and procedure did he use to obtain the readings.

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[Guest guest]

oh really research. I wonder what that is all about. Not biased right! Loni

From: lindameetoo <lindameetoo@...>

Subject: Re: smart meter

Date: Thursday, January 20, 2011, 4:53 PM

 

The big yellow meter thingy, measured ambient measurements of ?????. One of the

higher spikes on the meter, they said was probably a baby monitor or a

Surveillance system. I know that baby monitors are bad for us and for babies. I

hope that she stops using it.

I complained to the electric company about the smart meter making me more sick

than I already am. They just came out to tell me I was wacko and my home was

perfectly safe. They left a 10 year old research booklet on how safe it was and

one on EMF and the reading from the Big yellow meter thingy. I have to be

goofy or I would go wacko. They were really nice, but wrong. I went back and

read what I wrote just now. My mind does not flow smoothly. I hope you can get

the jest of what I was trying to say. I have noticed that the brain fog is much

worse lately.

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> > Were you able to obtain a copy of the readings taken at your home by the

Smart Meter Technician.

> > What type of instrument and procedure did he use to obtain the readings.

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[Guest guest]

Right now I am surrounded on all sides with cell towers and antennas. In the

high desert, the towers and antennas are on two sides rather than all around.

They are further away then the closest one's where I live now. Most places I

looked so far, there are 7 or less towers and 44 or less antennas. Right now I

have 79 towers and 220 antennas, a transformer and power lines in my back yard.

The high desert seems to be my best option right now. My husband can commute and

keep his job. It's about an hour from where I am now.

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> > > Subject: Re: Re: smart meter

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> > > Moving to an area without many neighbors should help. If it's remote

> > > enough, the power company may not even be able to justify putting in

> > > a smart meter.

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> > > Also, I think there are only a few states in the USA that currently

> > > have these wireless smart meters? I've personally never seen one

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