Re: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

[Guest guest]

What kind of house did you buy, Loni? Brick, stone, aluminum siding, wood....

When I was looking for a house, the outside of the house definitely made a

difference in what I felt inside and outside. There are particular things you

can do with the type of material used, which is why I am asking. You can ground

aluminum siding outside and that will help with cell tower emfs. Brick and stone

absorbs cell tower emfs, but I found it was more likely I reacted to the wiring

in brick and stone houses. I am looking forward to putting my wiring into

insulated conduits for this reason in my new house (it is brick). The home is

completely peaceful, tho, inside with most of my circuits off and I don't

require alot of electric running all the time.

I don't know what a stone/brick house would be like in a high emf area; in my

area there are only 4 cell towers, 1 microwave, and 11 antennae. Does anyone

know of a way to ground stone and brick houses? I am assuming it isn't the same

as for an aluminum house.

Diane

From: Marc <marcufoseries (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

groups (DOT) com

Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 2:39 PM

> I thought it was emf but the reading was low. He tested the microwave

> radiation & it was sky high. I never knew. I have about 4 or 5 cell

> anntennas right out my back window at the high school my kids attend. It

> is what has been killing me in this house.

Are these cell towers all on the same side of the house? Perhaps you only

need to shield that one side of the house?

I take it that the Quantum Home did not help with this?

Marc

[Guest guest]

>After thousands of dollars, I have been unsuccessful in shielding my bedroom

from WiFi, TV towers, Cell Towers or Radar. Yes they are diminished on the

meters, but after painting the room with Copper paint (grounded) and putting two

different layers of fabric over the windows, I feel worse in their and

consequently have made the room worse. I now sleep in another room of the house.

Yes, that can happen. Remember, shielding usually means using reflective

materials. If your shield leaks, then radiation gets in and is more or less

trapped inside, bouncing around until it is finally absorbed by something... and

that something might be you.

Using a layer of RF absorber, on the inide of the shield, can elimated this

phenomenon. So you end up with the best of both worlds: lower readings on the

meter because less radiation is coming in, plus any tiny bit that does leak in

gets absorbed by something other than your body.

Emil

[Guest guest]

Sorry, Loni, I see your house is frame and stucco in a later email. So many

fixes are super expensive. I can think of possible fixes for your situation but

they are very expensive--Hardee Plank siding and HR++ windows. Are you getting

emfs from only one direction? Would it be cost effective to do one wall of your

house? What do other people here think about this? This was a fix which was

suggested to me by an emf consultant I called when I was thinking of buying a

house (I didn't end up buying) last year.

How much land do you own on the offending side of your property? Can you grow

arborvitae there (or other fast growing evergreens) or are you in an area these

do not grow? I put a wall of 5ft ones on my current property last year--they are

now nearly 8ft tall. I went around to all the nurseries and home improvement

stores around this time of the year last year and these were very reasonable

because they were getting rid of what didn't sell. Arborvitae grow 3 to 4 ft a

season after established, and I personally find nothing that absorbs emfs as

well as evergreens.

Diane

From: Marc <marcufoseries (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

groups (DOT) com

Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 2:39 PM

> I thought it was emf but the reading was low. He tested the microwave

> radiation & it was sky high. I never knew. I have about 4 or 5 cell

> anntennas right out my back window at the high school my kids attend. It

> is what has been killing me in this house.

Are these cell towers all on the same side of the house? Perhaps you only

need to shield that one side of the house?

I take it that the Quantum Home did not help with this?

Marc

[Guest guest]

The interesting question is, how much reduction of microwaves is enough to

make a real difference. With an Acousticom, Electrosmog detector or similar

simple instrument one can see that the main beam of microwaves travels in

straight lines - the signal is much stronger when a mast is directly visible

or there is a clear path through a window, and hiding behind a house or a

wall reduces it considerably. Yes, a small proportion of the waves can bend

round corners, but it seems to be only a few percent. Is that enough to

still cause problems? Depends on the person I guess.

For Sue, it was enough to put netting on walls which were exposed to our

neighbour's cordless phone and on one window which was in direct line of

sight from a mast, plus turning off the power at night and sleeping on a

foam mattress. That cut down her microwave, electric and magnetic field

exposures down a lot, though not 100%. She was able to sleep successfully

and this helped her regain her strength. We have since been fortunate

enough to move to a different area because my job changed, and carefully

selected a house where we couldn't measure any significant exposure. This

has worked well, apart from an MCS episode with a carpet!

Ian

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

McAfee

Sent: 26 June 2008 22:32

Subject: Re: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

Microwaves can travel around shielding like liquid.

You have to totally seal the room or it will leak and bounce around

inside.

Shielding can also resonate with the frequencies and cause a

detrimental effect in the room.

Earth grounding can pull frequencies into the room.

All doom and gloom? Are we totally fu..,ked?

After thousands of dollars, I have been unsuccessful in shielding my

bedroom from WiFi, TV towers, Cell Towers or Radar.

Yes they are diminished on the meters, but after painting the room with

Copper paint (grounded) and putting two different layers of fabric over

the windows, I feel worse in their and consequently have made the room

worse. I now sleep in another room of the house.

Now if I were in a really bad area like it seems you are, yes, some

shielding could help get the readings and hopefully the sensations

down.

I recommend moving.

Good luck.

I turn off the power at night and sleep on an organic foam mattress.

On Jun 26, 2008, at 5:20 PM, paulpjcaol (DOT) <mailto:paulpjc%40aol.com> com

wrote:

>

> In a message dated 6/26/2008 5:14:18 P.M. GMT Daylight Time,

> loni326 (DOT) <mailto:loni326%40> com writes:

>

> Does anyone know about the roof? I have a concrete tile roof. The

> tiles are

> about an inch thick. Will the radiation get through them?

>

> I am getting a bid on these square screens to put up on the outside

> wall of

> the house where it is coming in the worse. Loni

>

>

>

> Depending on frequencies involved and other factors allowing for a

> certain

> amount of absorption microwave radiation will penetrate the tiles

> after all

> they have gaps where the grout is they will also have many interstices

> where

> the waves will find their way through.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi again, Loni,

I should have read ALL my emails before replying to your posts! lol You say you

are having problems with microwaves along one wall.... I said evergreens, Hardee

Plank siding, and HR++ windows help with emfs. I find they help some with

microwaves, too, but when I have researched, I find mu metal is the only real

fix for microwaves. Mu metal is prohibitively expensive and impractical for any

ESer to use. So for microwaves it is likely you will need to use layers of

various shielding and all the things so far suggested would be helpful.

My 2 cents,

Diane

From: Marc <marcufoseries (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

groups (DOT) com

Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 2:39 PM

> I thought it was emf but the reading was low. He tested the microwave

> radiation & it was sky high. I never knew. I have about 4 or 5 cell

> anntennas right out my back window at the high school my kids attend. It

> is what has been killing me in this house.

Are these cell towers all on the same side of the house? Perhaps you only

need to shield that one side of the house?

I take it that the Quantum Home did not help with this?

Marc

[Guest guest]

Hi Diane, good to know your new house is working out well for you.

Stone and brick are insulators and poor conductors, so as you say they

absorb well and don't reflect, but also don't conduct to earth easily. We

very recently had a guy round to survey our house electrically. He showed

how, if we were sitting or lying (e.g. on the bed) near to a wall with

electric cables in, the electric field actually bent outwards so that it

could go the earth/ground through us, as we are " a bag of wet minerals " (how

unromantic!) andconduct rather well! So one could measure our body voltage

as being nearly zero in the grden, high near a wall with a cable, but then

low again if we turned the power off. Metal shielded conduits for cables,

as you mention, block the electric field from getting out and also give an

easy path to conduct it to earth. So if you can afford them, I can see now

why they are a really good idea!

As it isn't practical for us to knock down our walls and shield the cables,

he gave us an easier and cheaper solution; a metallised blanket which we

could put on the bed and link one end to the central heating radiators,

which have a good earth (grounding) via the metal pipes. This then provides

an easier route for the electric field to earth than going via our body. A

different idea from shielding; instead of blocking the electric fields, it

is diverting them. Unfortunately this trick doesn't work for magnetic

fields or microwaves!

Ian

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Evie

Sent: 26 June 2008 23:28

Subject: Re: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

What kind of house did you buy, Loni? Brick, stone, aluminum siding,

wood.... When I was looking for a house, the outside of the house definitely

made a difference in what I felt inside and outside. There are particular

things you can do with the type of material used, which is why I am asking.

You can ground aluminum siding outside and that will help with cell tower

emfs. Brick and stone absorbs cell tower emfs, but I found it was more

likely I reacted to the wiring in brick and stone houses. I am looking

forward to putting my wiring into insulated conduits for this reason in my

new house (it is brick). The home is completely peaceful, tho, inside with

most of my circuits off and I don't require alot of electric running all the

time.

I don't know what a stone/brick house would be like in a high emf area; in

my area there are only 4 cell towers, 1 microwave, and 11 antennae. Does

anyone know of a way to ground stone and brick houses? I am assuming it

isn't the same as for an aluminum house.

Diane

From: Marc <marcufoseries (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

groups (DOT) com

Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 2:39 PM

> I thought it was emf but the reading was low. He tested the microwave

> radiation & it was sky high. I never knew. I have about 4 or 5 cell

> anntennas right out my back window at the high school my kids attend. It

> is what has been killing me in this house.

Are these cell towers all on the same side of the house? Perhaps you only

need to shield that one side of the house?

I take it that the Quantum Home did not help with this?

Marc

[Guest guest]

Nothing is selling now & prices have fallen. My house would not be comptetive

either because it is not decorated due to my MCS. I am really screwed. I can't

stand it here at all. Loni

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 2:34 PM

> I recommend moving.

Yes, that was my initial recommendation, but I think Loni

cannot afford that -- it can cost a lot of money to move.

Although it can also cost a lot of money to shield...

Marc

[Guest guest]

So if I tint all the windows you don't think that will help? Loni

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 2:54 PM

> Yes they are diminished on the meters, but after painting the room with

> Copper paint (grounded) and putting two different layers of fabric over

> the windows, I feel worse in their and consequently have made the room

> worse.

Yes, this is why I'd be reluctant to do anything that cannot be

" undone " easily. There is just too much risk of making the place

worse than it was already.

Marc

[Guest guest]

It is wood frame with stucco. Not good. Loni

From: Marc <marcufoseries (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

groups (DOT) com

Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 2:39 PM

> I thought it was emf but the reading was low. He tested the microwave

> radiation & it was sky high. I never knew. I have about 4 or 5 cell

> anntennas right out my back window at the high school my kids attend. It

> is what has been killing me in this house.

Are these cell towers all on the same side of the house? Perhaps you only

need to shield that one side of the house?

I take it that the Quantum Home did not help with this?

Marc

[Guest guest]

Do you mean your canopy?

From: prophit1970 <prophit1970@...>

Subject: Re: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 9:26 PM

Loni,

I do live mostly in my tent; but because you shouldn't have to, this

article may inspire you to find an angle of attack.

From The Times

November 20, 2006

Health fears lead schools to dismantle wireless networks

# Radiation levels blamed for illnesses

# Teacher became too sick to work

http://www.timesonl ine.co.uk/ tol/life_ and_style/ education/ article642575.

ece

- in Philly

>

>

> Hi All, I need your help & direction:

>

> I had a Building Biologist come to my home to test due to my

electrical sensitivities. (Thank you Bob Grommes for the referral).

..

SNIP

..

> I could get better & get my life back if I could get them to move

these antennas.

>

> I have some pictures of me in this canopy. I am going to get letters

from my doctors to send to the superindendants.

>

> I would love to go around the neighborhood & find out who has had

medical problems but getting closer to the waves will be to dangerous

for me right now.

>

> Loni

[Guest guest]

So if I do the windows but leave the walls will that help or not?

>

> In a message dated 6/26/2008 5:14:18 P.M. GMT Daylight Time,

> loni326 (DOT) com writes:

>

> Does anyone know about the roof? I have a concrete tile roof. The

> tiles are

> about an inch thick. Will the radiation get through them?

>

> I am getting a bid on these square screens to put up on the outside

> wall of

> the house where it is coming in the worse. Loni

>

>

>

> Depending on frequencies involved and other factors allowing for a

> certain

> amount of absorption microwave radiation will penetrate the tiles

> after all

> they have gaps where the grout is they will also have many interstices

> where

> the waves will find their way through.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I can't seal my whole house. I was going to do the windows with tint first &

then maybe the back wall of the house with that screening material. But the roof

would be open & front of the house. I just can't afford to do it all.

 

I am in so much pain here I can't stand it. I want to run but I don't have

anywhere to go.

 

I have kids. OMG, what do I do? Loni

>

> In a message dated 6/26/2008 5:14:18 P.M. GMT Daylight Time,

> loni326 (DOT) <mailto:loni326% 40> com writes:

>

> Does anyone know about the roof? I have a concrete tile roof. The

> tiles are

> about an inch thick. Will the radiation get through them?

>

> I am getting a bid on these square screens to put up on the outside

> wall of

> the house where it is coming in the worse. Loni

>

>

>

> Depending on frequencies involved and other factors allowing for a

> certain

> amount of absorption microwave radiation will penetrate the tiles

> after all

> they have gaps where the grout is they will also have many interstices

> where

> the waves will find their way through.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Emil,

 

Do you know if the window tint is good? What do you think about the screens.

Depending on cost I was going to do windows & maybe the back wall of the house.

I am hoping the cement tile on the roof will not let a lot in. I just don't know

what to do.

 

Loni

From: Less EMF Inc <lessemf@...>

Subject: Re: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 3:54 PM

>After thousands of dollars, I have been unsuccessful in shielding my bedroom

from WiFi, TV towers, Cell Towers or Radar. Yes they are diminished on the

meters, but after painting the room with Copper paint (grounded) and putting two

different layers of fabric over the windows, I feel worse in their and

consequently have made the room worse. I now sleep in another room of the house.

Yes, that can happen. Remember, shielding usually means using reflective

materials. If your shield leaks, then radiation gets in and is more or less

trapped inside, bouncing around until it is finally absorbed by something... and

that something might be you.

Using a layer of RF absorber, on the inide of the shield, can elimated this

phenomenon. So you end up with the best of both worlds: lower readings on the

meter because less radiation is coming in, plus any tiny bit that does leak in

gets absorbed by something other than your body.

Emil

[Guest guest]

What is arborvitae???? I live in Arizona so it is desert here. Loni

From: Marc <marcufoseries (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

groups (DOT) com

Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 2:39 PM

> I thought it was emf but the reading was low. He tested the microwave

> radiation & it was sky high. I never knew. I have about 4 or 5 cell

> anntennas right out my back window at the high school my kids attend. It

> is what has been killing me in this house.

Are these cell towers all on the same side of the house? Perhaps you only

need to shield that one side of the house?

I take it that the Quantum Home did not help with this?

Marc

[Guest guest]

So if the microwaves bounce off the tint, then will it just go through the

walls? 

 

I was trying a canopy & I woke up with my skin burning so it did not keep all

the radiation out. Loni

>

> In a message dated 6/26/2008 5:14:18 P.M. GMT Daylight Time,

> loni326 (DOT) <mailto:loni326% 40> com writes:

>

> Does anyone know about the roof? I have a concrete tile roof. The

> tiles are

> about an inch thick. Will the radiation get through them?

>

> I am getting a bid on these square screens to put up on the outside

> wall of

> the house where it is coming in the worse. Loni

>

>

>

> Depending on frequencies involved and other factors allowing for a

> certain

> amount of absorption microwave radiation will penetrate the tiles

> after all

> they have gaps where the grout is they will also have many interstices

> where

> the waves will find their way through.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Diane, I don't know if I can live here really. Loni

From: Marc <marcufoseries (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

groups (DOT) com

Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 2:39 PM

> I thought it was emf but the reading was low. He tested the microwave

> radiation & it was sky high. I never knew. I have about 4 or 5 cell

> anntennas right out my back window at the high school my kids attend. It

> is what has been killing me in this house.

Are these cell towers all on the same side of the house? Perhaps you only

need to shield that one side of the house?

I take it that the Quantum Home did not help with this?

Marc

[Guest guest]

None of my rooms work for me here so what shall I do? Loni

From: Less EMF Inc <lessemf@...>

Subject: Re: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 3:54 PM

>After thousands of dollars, I have been unsuccessful in shielding my bedroom

from WiFi, TV towers, Cell Towers or Radar. Yes they are diminished on the

meters, but after painting the room with Copper paint (grounded) and putting two

different layers of fabric over the windows, I feel worse in their and

consequently have made the room worse. I now sleep in another room of the house.

Yes, that can happen. Remember, shielding usually means using reflective

materials. If your shield leaks, then radiation gets in and is more or less

trapped inside, bouncing around until it is finally absorbed by something... and

that something might be you.

Using a layer of RF absorber, on the inide of the shield, can elimated this

phenomenon. So you end up with the best of both worlds: lower readings on the

meter because less radiation is coming in, plus any tiny bit that does leak in

gets absorbed by something other than your body.

Emil

[Guest guest]

Loni Rosser wrote:

> I thought it was emf but the reading was low. He tested the microwave

radiation & it was sky high. I never knew. I have about 4 or 5 cell anntennas

right out my back window at the high school my kids attend. It is what has been

killing me in this house.

>

Good choice of words.

> I called the superindendant of schools & they pretty much said tuff.

>

I'm afraid this is normal. There are a few people with awareness, but

the current situation is not fightable until awareness grows to an

undeniable level.

> I am trying a faraday canopy from the biologist that keeps 99 % of the

radiation out. It works, my symptoms go away & I can now sleep in my bed.

However, I can not live in my bed. I know for sure it is the radiation from

these antennas however.

>

I am glad to hear it helps.

> I just can't afford to shield the whole house which is probably what is needed

for someone with MCS who may get more sensitive if I don't block it all. Scary

stuff.

>

Before spending anything on that route, please consider your location is

too close to the antennas to be a long term solution.

The canopy can be taken with you, but some of the other shielding may

not be sufficient, and won't be portable.

> Symtoms are: Headache, brain fog, no energy, pain in gut, nervous stress to a

huge degree, body frame weakness like I am going to break at any moment.

>

I think you will find many people are having these symtpoms, but don't

know why. They just get prescriptions from doctor who also doesn't know

enough.

> How can I get them to move these anntennas? Any ideas. Is there a lawyer

anyone knows that has a passion for this that might do Pro Bono?

>

The most visible effort (that I know of) here in the usa in Albuquerque,

is currently unsuccessful, and getting laughed at.

This won't change until more people are affected in a clear pattern that

becomes undeniable.

> I went to a friends last night in Gold Canyon. It was heaven to me. I could

breath. He said he drops calls all the time. I wasn't surprised.

>

Bingo. There is your solution, and further proof of your sensitivity.

Find a place with bad celphone reception, and low chance of adding

towers to that dead zone.

I know, that is hard. very hard.

Good luck,

[Guest guest]

Hi Loni,

> So if the microwaves bounce off the tint, then will it just go through the

walls?

>

Depending on what the wall is made of, and how thick it is, it should

absorb some.

How high up does the stucco go? Is the frame covered in CDX under the

stucco, things like that.

Are the window frames vinyl, or something more solid?

The more material between you and the outside, the better.

>

> I was trying a canopy & I woke up with my skin burning so it did not keep all

the radiation out.

>

How much space is or was there between the mesh and your skin?

Is it plugged into the house ground, or a separate ground, (albeit

unlikely on short notice.)

Does the canopy reach to the floor?

Is there anything between you and the floor besides the mattress?

Is the bed a wire-coil mattress (bad) or foam or filled with air like

the select-comfort?

As others have mentioned, if there is any leak, the signal can get in

and get trapped.

The best shielded rooms are double layer faraday cage with separate

grounding.

Those are the little details I can think of that should make a difference.

[Guest guest]

Hi :

 

The window frames are made of some type of metal.

 

The walls here are 2/6 frame with stucco & then painted.

 

I had to sleep at the park last night but there were a bunch of drunk guys that

were shooting a gun randomly. I had to call the police. It was scary.

 

Loni

From: A. <sandreas41@...>

Subject: Re: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 9:03 AM

Hi Loni,

> So if the microwaves bounce off the tint, then will it just go through the

walls?

>

Depending on what the wall is made of, and how thick it is, it should

absorb some.

How high up does the stucco go? Is the frame covered in CDX under the

stucco, things like that.

Are the window frames vinyl, or something more solid?

The more material between you and the outside, the better.

>

> I was trying a canopy & I woke up with my skin burning so it did not keep all

the radiation out.

>

How much space is or was there between the mesh and your skin?

Is it plugged into the house ground, or a separate ground, (albeit

unlikely on short notice.)

Does the canopy reach to the floor?

Is there anything between you and the floor besides the mattress?

Is the bed a wire-coil mattress (bad) or foam or filled with air like

the select-comfort?

As others have mentioned, if there is any leak, the signal can get in

and get trapped.

The best shielded rooms are double layer faraday cage with separate

grounding.

Those are the little details I can think of that should make a difference.

[Guest guest]

The canopy stopped being safe. 2nd night I woke up with burning skin. I was

having reactions in my gut too. had to take a sleeping pill. So that is not

working either.

 

I believe you are right. I am too close to the antennas but I will be homeless

then.

 

Loni

> I thought it was emf but the reading was low. He tested the microwave

radiation & it was sky high. I never knew. I have about 4 or 5 cell anntennas

right out my back window at the high school my kids attend. It is what has been

killing me in this house.

>

Good choice of words.

> I called the superindendant of schools & they pretty much said tuff.

>

I'm afraid this is normal. There are a few people with awareness, but

the current situation is not fightable until awareness grows to an

undeniable level.

> I am trying a faraday canopy from the biologist that keeps 99 % of the

radiation out. It works, my symptoms go away & I can now sleep in my bed.

However, I can not live in my bed. I know for sure it is the radiation from

these antennas however.

>

I am glad to hear it helps.

> I just can't afford to shield the whole house which is probably what is needed

for someone with MCS who may get more sensitive if I don't block it all. Scary

stuff.

>

Before spending anything on that route, please consider your location is

too close to the antennas to be a long term solution.

The canopy can be taken with you, but some of the other shielding may

not be sufficient, and won't be portable.

> Symtoms are: Headache, brain fog, no energy, pain in gut, nervous stress to a

huge degree, body frame weakness like I am going to break at any moment.

>

I think you will find many people are having these symtpoms, but don't

know why. They just get prescriptions from doctor who also doesn't know

enough.

> How can I get them to move these anntennas? Any ideas. Is there a lawyer

anyone knows that has a passion for this that might do Pro Bono?

>

The most visible effort (that I know of) here in the usa in Albuquerque,

is currently unsuccessful, and getting laughed at.

This won't change until more people are affected in a clear pattern that

becomes undeniable.

> I went to a friends last night in Gold Canyon. It was heaven to me. I could

breath. He said he drops calls all the time. I wasn't surprised.

>

Bingo. There is your solution, and further proof of your sensitivity.

Find a place with bad celphone reception, and low chance of adding

towers to that dead zone.

I know, that is hard. very hard.

Good luck,

[Guest guest]

How can it become worse, your room? did you become more sensitive?

 

How far are your towers?

From: Less EMF Inc <lessemf@...>

Subject: Re: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 3:54 PM

>After thousands of dollars, I have been unsuccessful in shielding my bedroom

from WiFi, TV towers, Cell Towers or Radar. Yes they are diminished on the

meters, but after painting the room with Copper paint (grounded) and putting two

different layers of fabric over the windows, I feel worse in their and

consequently have made the room worse. I now sleep in another room of the house.

Yes, that can happen. Remember, shielding usually means using reflective

materials. If your shield leaks, then radiation gets in and is more or less

trapped inside, bouncing around until it is finally absorbed by something... and

that something might be you.

Using a layer of RF absorber, on the inide of the shield, can elimated this

phenomenon. So you end up with the best of both worlds: lower readings on the

meter because less radiation is coming in, plus any tiny bit that does leak in

gets absorbed by something other than your body.

Emil

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/27/2008 5:57:26 P.M. GMT Daylight Time,

loni326@... writes:

Symtoms are: Headache, brain fog, no energy, pain in gut, nervous stress to

a huge degree, body frame weakness like I am going to break at any moment.

>

I think you will find many people are having these symtpoms, but don't

know why. They just get prescriptions from doctor who also doesn't know

enough.

> How can I get them to move these anntennas? Any ideas. Is there a lawyer

anyone knows that has a passion for this that might do Pro Bono?

>

The most visible effort (that I know of) here in the usa in Albuquerque,

is currently unsuccessful, and getting laughed at.

This won't change until more people are affected in a clear pattern that

becomes undeniable.

> I went to a friends last night in Gold Canyon. It was heaven to me. I

could breath. He said he drops calls all the time. I wasn't surprised.

>

Bingo. There is your solution, and further proof of your sensitivity.

Find a place with bad celphone reception, and low chance of adding

towers to that dead zone.

I know, that is hard. very hard.

Good luck,

I am doing house by house building surveys here in UK for local government

as an ES surveyor I have a good glimpse on the RF stealth killers in peoples

homes, they are like lambs to the slaughter they as you have suggested have

not put 2 & 2 together as to why they are sick/unwell in so many cases, they

are being cheated but often their own simple greed (and that is a broad and

complex term) is part of the equation. Today as I was working I saw on TV a

new super high tech supermarket that allows payment with mobiles using some

form of scanning technique and purpose made modules for your mobile built into

trolleys, they evan showed robots that rome the shop that can receive your

mobile. Wireless for me means handing over our humanity in the long term (

with very few wires and plugs to pull if we change our minds !) a road that we

seem committed too at any price.

Do you have a faith in something greater than the frail human condition, if

not then now might be a good time to seek a higher purpose.

Also for a moment let the radiation flow through you , know your enemy, bend

like the willow, part of your weakness is un-chanelled fear and anger, you

are definitely not alone, we are comrades separated by nothing more than

trivial ground, in spirit we are connected and that will be our strength

learn to step aside like taking power naps, but you do need a sheild and an

electrosmog detector, I trust that you can adapt enough for the time being.

the power is yours !

P uk

[Guest guest]

Hi,

this light post is probably made of steel or aluminum. A electrosmog

neutralizing device attached to this metallic construction will do it. The

problem is, people will see it, laugh at it and remove it. If you are seriosly

interestet, contact me personally. There is a solution to this problem, that is

invisible. I have been using this since 2003 on many base stations with success

as well as many of my friends.

dietrich gruen

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Von: Loni Rosser <loni326@...>

An:

Verschickt: Do., 26. Jun. 2008, 18:07

Thema: Re: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

Hi there, So these antennas are on a light post at the school. How would I get

them on?

 

Loni

From: Marc <marcufoseries (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

groups (DOT) com

Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 4:43 PM

> How would you make sure they stayed there. They are on school property.

As I recall, the orgonite devices only need to be near the towers (like,

within a 1/4 mile, although closer is better), so you could place them

somewhere just outside of the property. Also, you could bury them in

the ground or hide them in a bush where they'd likely not be moved.

But again, I don't think we have anyone here on this group who's done

this, so I don't know how well it would work for people with ES. I

just recall that these things are cheap, and have a certain following.

Marc

[Guest guest]

What will that do to the radiation. I mean it is powerful stuff!!! Loni

From: Marc <marcufoseries (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

groups (DOT) com

Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 4:43 PM

> How would you make sure they stayed there. They are on school property.

As I recall, the orgonite devices only need to be near the towers (like,

within a 1/4 mile, although closer is better), so you could place them

somewhere just outside of the property. Also, you could bury them in

the ground or hide them in a bush where they'd likely not be moved.

But again, I don't think we have anyone here on this group who's done

this, so I don't know how well it would work for people with ES. I

just recall that these things are cheap, and have a certain following.

Marc