RE: Re: Pre-Diabetes Estimate in U.S. Doubles

[Guest guest]

I'll see if anything about it is in tomorrow's paper.

on 4/29/2004 4:51 PM, Rodney at perspect1111@... wrote:

> Hi Francesca:

>

> Do we know what the new glucose 'pre-diabetes threshold' level is?

>

> It would be interesting to know (and compare with my own).

>

> Rodney.

[Guest guest]

I hope labeling being fat and lazy as a pre-disease state is enough to shock

the ignorant into action but I'm not optimistic. We all (should) know how

easy it is to reverse this condition for the majority of individuals without

a genetic basis. I suspect the only winners will be the drug companies since

the average ad-lib'er will always choose to swallow something rather than

not...... end rant

BTW.. I found a little more interesting a different study that concluded

Veterans are at a 60% higher risk of ALS than non-veterans (maybe because

I'm a veteran?). While risk for both groups is still relatively low, this is

not a new trend and tracks back to WWI vets. No, I'm not that old.

JR

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[Guest guest]

Fasting Blood Glucose:

Normal: < 100 mg/dl

Pre-Diabetes: > or = 100 mg/dl to 125 mg/dl

Diabetes: > or = 126 mg/dl

>From: " Rodney " <perspect1111@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: [ ] Re: Pre-Diabetes Estimate in U.S. Doubles

>Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 20:51:37 -0000

>

>Hi Francesca:

>

>Do we know what the new glucose 'pre-diabetes threshold' level is?

>

>It would be interesting to know (and compare with my own).

>

>Rodney.

>

>

> >

> > Forty-one million Americans have pre-diabetes, a blood sugar level

>high

> > enough to dramatically increase their risk of getting the disease,

> > according to new government figures, which double previous

>estimates.

> >

> > The number leaped because doctors changed the criteria for

>diagnosing

> > pre-diabetes after research showed that they were missing too many

> > at-risk patients. " These latest numbers show how urgent the problem

> > really is, " said Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy G.

> > , who is scheduled to announce the new data at a meeting

> > today in Baltimore.

>

[Guest guest]

Is there a similar threshold used to detect hypoglycemia? Is there a

low number that is considered dangerous. I perceive that my glucose

level is lower than average.

Dowling wrote:

>Fasting Blood Glucose:

>

>Normal: < 100 mg/dl

>

>Pre-Diabetes: > or = 100 mg/dl to 125 mg/dl

>

>Diabetes: > or = 126 mg/dl

>

>

[Guest guest]

Blood glucose levels below 70 mg/dl are usually termed " hypoglycemia; "

nevertheless, I have had my glucose measured at 50 mg/dl on a typical day,

when I was feeling fine. I was later called at home by a near hysterical

nurse, who apparently thought I must be in a coma!

I had other bizzare results, commonly found in those practicing CR: low

white blood cell count. So, apparently, I am also chronically

immunosuppressed. Nevertheless, this was some 13 years ago. I rarely even

catch cold, and, hardly ever feel " hypoglycemic. "

So much for lab values!

Some support for my experience:

" Hypoglycemia means low blood sugar (glucose). The blood glucose levels in

healthy individuals fluctuate depending greatly on the duration of fasting.

The normal range is 70 to 120 mg/dl after an overnight (12 hours) fast. In

healthy men, the blood glucose can drop to 55 mg/dl after 24 hours of

fasting and to 48 mg/dl after 72 hours of fasting. In healthy women, glucose

levels can be as low as 35 mg/dl after only 24 hours of fasting.

Since blood glucose levels can fluctuate widely in healthy subjects, and

symptoms of hypoglycemia can be vague and nonspecific, establishing the

diagnosis of hypoglycemia as the cause of symptoms is often difficult. When

symptoms of hypoglycemia occur together with a documented blood glucose

under 45 mg/dl, and the symptoms promptly resolve with the administration of

glucose, the diagnosis can be made with more certainty

Since symptoms of hypoglycemia are vague and often non- specific, many other

conditions can mimic hypoglycemia. In order to establish hypoglycemia as the

cause of the patient's symptoms, three criteria must be met. The patient

must have symptoms of hypoglycemia with a documented blood glucose level of

less than 45 mg/dl. Additionally, the symptoms have to resolve completely

with the administration of glucose. These diagnostic criteria are referred

to as " Whipple's triad. " "

>From: apricot85 <apricot85@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Pre-Diabetes Estimate in U.S. Doubles

>Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 10:39:20 -0400

>

>Is there a similar threshold used to detect hypoglycemia? Is there a

>low number that is considered dangerous. I perceive that my glucose

>level is lower than average.

>

> Dowling wrote:

>

> >Fasting Blood Glucose:

> >

> >Normal: < 100 mg/dl

> >

> >Pre-Diabetes: > or = 100 mg/dl to 125 mg/dl

> >

> >Diabetes: > or = 126 mg/dl

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

My source for the prior post info:

http://www.medicinenet.com/Hypoglycemia/page1.htm

>From: apricot85 <apricot85@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Pre-Diabetes Estimate in U.S. Doubles

>Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 10:39:20 -0400

>

>Is there a similar threshold used to detect hypoglycemia? Is there a

>low number that is considered dangerous. I perceive that my glucose

>level is lower than average.

>

> Dowling wrote:

>

> >Fasting Blood Glucose:

> >

> >Normal: < 100 mg/dl

> >

> >Pre-Diabetes: > or = 100 mg/dl to 125 mg/dl

> >

> >Diabetes: > or = 126 mg/dl

> >

> >

>

>

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