Re: Dirty Electricity Removal

[Guest guest]

, instead of measuring X-, Y- and Z-axis separately,

You can rotate the meter in three dimensions and search for

the highest reading. Easy and cheap.

/anders

charles skrev 2011-01-25 11:51:

>

> THose meters are only 1 D.

> They now have 3D, but they are very expensive.

>

> Measuring with 1D is rather complicated.

> You must measure the X-, Y, Z-axis, raise them to the

> higher power, sum them, and from the sum the root must be

> extracted.

> So you need a calculator with them.

>

> Therefore I prefer a 3D Gauss or Teslameter.

> It is just *point and read*.

>

> For amateurs, 20-2000 Hz will do.

> Here a Spectran NF will do. There are several types.

> They are not expensive, and contain 3D for magnetical fields.

> And, very important, you can see which frequencies are

> present, which all other meters do not show.

>

> Greetings,

> Claessens

> member Verband Baubiologie

> www.milieuziektes.nl

> www.milieuziektes.be

> www.hetbitje.nl

> checked by Norton

>

> Re: Dirty Electricity Removal

>

> Thanks for the clarification.

>

> My point is that 60 Hz magnetic fields can cause

> severe electrosensitive symptoms. Take for instance

> power transmission lines, a soldering iron or a

> refrigerator - both are devastating because of the

> elevated 60 Hz magnetic field they generate.

>

> I'm still trying to figure out whether dirty electricity

> is bad because of the electric field, magnetic field,

> or does it break out to an electromagnetic wave. It

> seems to be problematic even when there is no current.

>

> As for gauss meters, Gigahertz Solutions has several

> meters that measure beyond 60 Hz. The ME3951A

> is good up to 400 KHz. It even has a high-pass switch

> to eliminate 60 Hz from the measurement.

>

> Eli

>

>

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Loni wrote that using Stetzer meters increased EMF

> in her house. Please share details about what kind of

> metering you used, Loni.

> > > >

> > > > EMF means electromagnetic field and indicates " the

> field of force associated with electric charge in motion,

> havingboth electric and magnetic components and containing

> a definite amountof electromagnetic energy. "

> > > >

> > > > Many people initially use a Gauss meter, but these

> only meter magnetic fields of 50-60 Hz. This frequency is

> not what causes EHS symptoms.

> > > >

> > > > There is a magnetic field in the immediate vicinity

> of installed Stetzer filters, but it only extends a few

> inches. And the harmful frequencies have been greatly reduced.

> > > >

> > > > EHS symptoms are caused by radio and microwave

> frequencies.

> > > >

> > > > The Stetzer meters very efficiently reduce

> frequencies in the " dirty electricity " range of 4-100KHz

> in the electricty of the circuits they are plugged into.

> They are not designed to affect other frequencies, nor can

> they affect frequencies of current on your water pipes,

> phone lines, ductwork, etc. They do a specific job and

> they do it very well.

> > > >

> > > > To reduce exposure to harmful frequencies other than

> 4-100 KHz in building wiring circuits, other measures than

> installing Stetzer filters must be undertaken.

> > > >

> > > > Shivani Arjuna

> > > > www.LifeEnergies.com

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Hello Anders,

sure you can do that.

But that way you do not measure correctly and do not find the exact value.

It is explained in every manual of selfrespecting manufacturors.

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes.nl

www.milieuziektes.be

www.hetbitje.nl

checked by Norton

Re: Dirty Electricity Removal

>

> Thanks for the clarification.

>

> My point is that 60 Hz magnetic fields can cause

> severe electrosensitive symptoms. Take for instance

> power transmission lines, a soldering iron or a

> refrigerator - both are devastating because of the

> elevated 60 Hz magnetic field they generate.

>

> I'm still trying to figure out whether dirty electricity

> is bad because of the electric field, magnetic field,

> or does it break out to an electromagnetic wave. It

> seems to be problematic even when there is no current.

>

> As for gauss meters, Gigahertz Solutions has several

> meters that measure beyond 60 Hz. The ME3951A

> is good up to 400 KHz. It even has a high-pass switch

> to eliminate 60 Hz from the measurement.

>

> Eli

>

>

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Loni wrote that using Stetzer meters increased EMF

> in her house. Please share details about what kind of

> metering you used, Loni.

> > > >

> > > > EMF means electromagnetic field and indicates " the

> field of force associated with electric charge in motion,

> havingboth electric and magnetic components and containing

> a definite amountof electromagnetic energy. "

> > > >

> > > > Many people initially use a Gauss meter, but these

> only meter magnetic fields of 50-60 Hz. This frequency is

> not what causes EHS symptoms.

> > > >

> > > > There is a magnetic field in the immediate vicinity

> of installed Stetzer filters, but it only extends a few

> inches. And the harmful frequencies have been greatly reduced.

> > > >

> > > > EHS symptoms are caused by radio and microwave

> frequencies.

> > > >

> > > > The Stetzer meters very efficiently reduce

> frequencies in the " dirty electricity " range of 4-100KHz

> in the electricty of the circuits they are plugged into.

> They are not designed to affect other frequencies, nor can

> they affect frequencies of current on your water pipes,

> phone lines, ductwork, etc. They do a specific job and

> they do it very well.

> > > >

> > > > To reduce exposure to harmful frequencies other than

> 4-100 KHz in building wiring circuits, other measures than

> installing Stetzer filters must be undertaken.

> > > >

> > > > Shivani Arjuna

> > > > www.LifeEnergies.com

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

, of course You get the correct value if You find the

maximum value.

And for us who are electrosensitive, the absolute values is

completely irrelevant. the meter is just used to avoid

levels that we cant tolerate.

/anders

charles skrev 2011-01-25 16:05:

>

> Hello Anders,

>

> sure you can do that.

>

> But that way you do not measure correctly and do not find

> the exact value.

>

> It is explained in every manual of selfrespecting

> manufacturors.

>

> Greetings,

> Claessens

> member Verband Baubiologie

> www.milieuziektes.nl

> www.milieuziektes.be

> www.hetbitje.nl

> checked by Norton

>

> Re: Dirty Electricity Removal

> >

> > Thanks for the clarification.

> >

> > My point is that 60 Hz magnetic fields can cause

> > severe electrosensitive symptoms. Take for instance

> > power transmission lines, a soldering iron or a

> > refrigerator - both are devastating because of the

> > elevated 60 Hz magnetic field they generate.

> >

> > I'm still trying to figure out whether dirty electricity

> > is bad because of the electric field, magnetic field,

> > or does it break out to an electromagnetic wave. It

> > seems to be problematic even when there is no current.

> >

> > As for gauss meters, Gigahertz Solutions has several

> > meters that measure beyond 60 Hz. The ME3951A

> > is good up to 400 KHz. It even has a high-pass switch

> > to eliminate 60 Hz from the measurement.

> >

> > Eli

> >

> >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Loni wrote that using Stetzer meters increased EMF

> > in her house. Please share details about what kind of

> > metering you used, Loni.

> > > > >

> > > > > EMF means electromagnetic field and indicates " the

> > field of force associated with electric charge in motion,

> > havingboth electric and magnetic components and containing

> > a definite amountof electromagnetic energy. "

> > > > >

> > > > > Many people initially use a Gauss meter, but these

> > only meter magnetic fields of 50-60 Hz. This frequency is

> > not what causes EHS symptoms.

> > > > >

> > > > > There is a magnetic field in the immediate vicinity

> > of installed Stetzer filters, but it only extends a few

> > inches. And the harmful frequencies have been greatly

> reduced.

> > > > >

> > > > > EHS symptoms are caused by radio and microwave

> > frequencies.

> > > > >

> > > > > The Stetzer meters very efficiently reduce

> > frequencies in the " dirty electricity " range of 4-100KHz

> > in the electricty of the circuits they are plugged into.

> > They are not designed to affect other frequencies, nor can

> > they affect frequencies of current on your water pipes,

> > phone lines, ductwork, etc. They do a specific job and

> > they do it very well.

> > > > >

> > > > > To reduce exposure to harmful frequencies other than

> > 4-100 KHz in building wiring circuits, other measures than

> > installing Stetzer filters must be undertaken.

> > > > >

> > > > > Shivani Arjuna

> > > > > www.LifeEnergies.com

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry I get a little confused by the tech references & haven't read a book

on it yet.

 Which one would the armature buy for emf's & dirty transient electricity?

Kathy

From: Anders sson <skal.man@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Dirty Electricity Removal

 

, of course You get the correct value if You find the

maximum value.

And for us who are electrosensitive, the absolute values is

completely irrelevant. the meter is just used to avoid

levels that we cant tolerate.

/anders

charles skrev 2011-01-25 16:05:

>

> Hello Anders,

>

> sure you can do that.

>

> But that way you do not measure correctly and do not find

> the exact value.

>

> It is explained in every manual of selfrespecting

> manufacturors.

>

> Greetings,

> Claessens

> member Verband Baubiologie

> www.milieuziektes.nl

> www.milieuziektes.be

> www.hetbitje.nl

> checked by Norton

>

> Re: Dirty Electricity Removal

> >

> > Thanks for the clarification.

> >

> > My point is that 60 Hz magnetic fields can cause

> > severe electrosensitive symptoms. Take for instance

> > power transmission lines, a soldering iron or a

> > refrigerator - both are devastating because of the

> > elevated 60 Hz magnetic field they generate.

> >

> > I'm still trying to figure out whether dirty electricity

> > is bad because of the electric field, magnetic field,

> > or does it break out to an electromagnetic wave. It

> > seems to be problematic even when there is no current.

> >

> > As for gauss meters, Gigahertz Solutions has several

> > meters that measure beyond 60 Hz. The ME3951A

> > is good up to 400 KHz. It even has a high-pass switch

> > to eliminate 60 Hz from the measurement.

> >

> > Eli

> >

> >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Loni wrote that using Stetzer meters increased EMF

> > in her house. Please share details about what kind of

> > metering you used, Loni.

> > > > >

> > > > > EMF means electromagnetic field and indicates " the

> > field of force associated with electric charge in motion,

> > havingboth electric and magnetic components and containing

> > a definite amountof electromagnetic energy. "

> > > > >

> > > > > Many people initially use a Gauss meter, but these

> > only meter magnetic fields of 50-60 Hz. This frequency is

> > not what causes EHS symptoms.

> > > > >

> > > > > There is a magnetic field in the immediate vicinity

> > of installed Stetzer filters, but it only extends a few

> > inches. And the harmful frequencies have been greatly

> reduced.

> > > > >

> > > > > EHS symptoms are caused by radio and microwave

> > frequencies.

> > > > >

> > > > > The Stetzer meters very efficiently reduce

> > frequencies in the " dirty electricity " range of 4-100KHz

> > in the electricty of the circuits they are plugged into.

> > They are not designed to affect other frequencies, nor can

> > they affect frequencies of current on your water pipes,

> > phone lines, ductwork, etc. They do a specific job and

> > they do it very well.

> > > > >

> > > > > To reduce exposure to harmful frequencies other than

> > 4-100 KHz in building wiring circuits, other measures than

> > installing Stetzer filters must be undertaken.

> > > > >

> > > > > Shivani Arjuna

> > > > > www.LifeEnergies.com

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Helen, Can you tell us how much cell food you are taking to be staturating? 

Loni

>

>

>

> I don't know any EHS people who are sensitive to 60 Hz. I suggest that what

> you are presuming is 60 Hz actually has other frequencies with it.

>

> The studies that were done that supposedly showed harm from 60 Hz did not

> take dirty electricity into consideration. I communicated with one of the

> authors of such a study to ask if they had thought of that. Nope. They just

> used electricity as it came from the electric company.

>

> Shivani

>

> www.LifeEnergies.com <http://www.lifeenergies.com/>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Loni,

Started with the recommended dosage of 8 drops x 3 lots per day and now on

12 drops x 3 times a day.

Helen

On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 5:31 AM, Loni <loni326@...> wrote:

>

>

> Helen, Can you tell us how much cell food you are taking to be

> staturating? Loni

>

>

>

> >

> >

> >

> > I don't know any EHS people who are sensitive to 60 Hz. I suggest that

> what

> > you are presuming is 60 Hz actually has other frequencies with it.

> >

> > The studies that were done that supposedly showed harm from 60 Hz did not

> > take dirty electricity into consideration. I communicated with one of the

> > authors of such a study to ask if they had thought of that. Nope. They

> just

> > used electricity as it came from the electric company.

> >

> > Shivani

> >

> > www.LifeEnergies.com <http://www.lifeenergies.com/> <

> http://www.lifeenergies.com/>

>

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Helen,

What meter or way of testing did you use for old & new homes? What were your

readings at the old place? What type of cell food?

I am becoming more & more EHS. I'm blaming my metal surgical clips & aluminum

wiring along w increasing cell  emf's.

I know it depends on one's health. Is it possible to have clips from gallbladder

surgery safely removed? I'm going to see some doc's about it.

Thanks for any help.

Kathy

calicocat477@...

From: Helen <helenmurphybb@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Dirty Electricity Removal

Date: Saturday, January 29, 2011, 1:36 AM

Hi Loni,

Started with the recommended dosage of 8 drops x 3 lots per day and now on

12 drops x 3 times a day.

Helen

On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 5:31 AM, Loni <loni326@...> wrote:

>

>

> Helen, Can you tell us how much cell food you are taking to be

> staturating?  Loni

>

>

>

> >

> >

> >

> > I don't know any EHS people who are sensitive to 60 Hz. I suggest that

> what

> > you are presuming is 60 Hz actually has other frequencies with it.

> >

> > The studies that were done that supposedly showed harm from 60 Hz did not

> > take dirty electricity into consideration. I communicated with one of the

> > authors of such a study to ask if they had thought of that. Nope. They

> just

> > used electricity as it came from the electric company.

> >

> > Shivani

> >

> > www.LifeEnergies.com <http://www.lifeenergies.com/> <

> http://www.lifeenergies.com/>

>

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Kathy,

I have the FW Bell meter for magnetic testing, also a Gigahertz solutions

electric fiield and magnetic field meter. The Stetzer dirty electricity

meter and a HF Gigahertz Solutions for high frequency pulsed and unpulsed

fields. I like to use audio a lot rather than numbers and some of these

meters have that option as well as I use an AM radio.

In my old home, magnetic levels could be anything from 5 milligauss to 22

milligauss. In the new, it is 0.5 milligauss.

The cell food is called CELLFOOD, just one word across the front.

I am sure having metal inside you does not help but I cannot advise whether

to have it taken out or not.

The best defence I have found is be on the offence and intake only pure,

organic natural foods, clean contaminant free water and eat less whilst ill

so as not to over burden an already over taxed system. Then add in quality

probiotics or fermented foods, clear out candida issues (do the spit test)

and alkalise the body so it can fight back.

Nutritional saturation and cleansing would be undertaken only when well

enough.

Cheers,

Helen

On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 10:57 AM, KathyB <calicocat477@...> wrote:

>

>

> Helen,

>

> What meter or way of testing did you use for old & new homes? What were

> your readings at the old place? What type of cell food?

>

> I am becoming more & more EHS. I'm blaming my metal surgical clips &

> aluminum wiring along w increasing cell emf's.

>

> I know it depends on one's health. Is it possible to have clips from

> gallbladder surgery safely removed? I'm going to see some doc's about it.

>

> Thanks for any help.

>

> Kathy

> calicocat477@... <calicocat477%40sbcglobal.net>

>

> From: Helen <helenmurphybb@... <helenmurphybb%40gmail.com>>

> Subject: Re: Re: Dirty Electricity Removal

> <%40>

> Date: Saturday, January 29, 2011, 1:36 AM

>

>

> Hi Loni,

>

> Started with the recommended dosage of 8 drops x 3 lots per day and now on

> 12 drops x 3 times a day.

> Helen

>

> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 5:31 AM, Loni <loni326@...<loni326%40>>

> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > Helen, Can you tell us how much cell food you are taking to be

> > staturating? Loni

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I don't know any EHS people who are sensitive to 60 Hz. I suggest that

> > what

> > > you are presuming is 60 Hz actually has other frequencies with it.

> > >

> > > The studies that were done that supposedly showed harm from 60 Hz did

> not

> > > take dirty electricity into consideration. I communicated with one of

> the

> > > authors of such a study to ask if they had thought of that. Nope. They

> > just

> > > used electricity as it came from the electric company.

> > >

> > > Shivani

> > >

> > > www.LifeEnergies.com <http://www.lifeenergies.com/> <

> http://www.lifeenergies.com/> <

> > http://www.lifeenergies.com/>

> >

> > >

> > >