RE: EMF shileding products

[Guest guest]

Hi, Dietrich,

I noted that the website Marc sent on regarding your BioProtect card said that

electro-sensitives should get metals out of their bodies before wearing your

card, or they might react worse with it on.  In my case, (and Marc's, and many

others), this is not an easy thing to do!  So I am guessing this is why your

card has not worked for some of us. 

However, would your card still work for us to use off our bodies, at the

incoming electric panel box, for instance?  Does anybody on the forum know

this, or has anyone tried it???  Just curious. 

Thanks very much, Dietrich,

Diane

From: Gruendg@... <Gruendg@...>

Subject: Re: Re: EMF shileding products

Date: Friday, August 19, 2011, 7:01 PM

 

Hi,

concerniing longitudinal waves, has this knowlede first got from

me. Longitudinal waves are always present where you can measure any

electromagnetic fields. They are like the other side of the coin. In my research

I

first thought absorbing them through these gizmos. Later I discovered that

there are gizmos on the market that change the biological effect of RF even

into some positive from negative instead of just neutralising the harmful

effect. This is only possible if the longitudinal waves are still present.

And this phenomenon, that RF can transmit biological effective information

through the inherent longitudinal waves since long has been used in

alternative medicine for therapy. So far the inventors did hesitate to state

that

they use longitudinal waves, because in ordinary phýsics they are thought

not to exist. No one wants to be ridiculed using something that is supposed

not to exist. No one wants to get into legal problems because of this.

As soon as you know how to alter the biologically effective information

,carried by the longitudinal waves, through some process of resonance, you

basically have the key to effectively approach the problem of electromagnetic

pollution.

dietrich

In einer eMail vom 15.08.2011 19:02:28 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit schreibt

lizt777@...:

Thank you .

Unfortunately, many ES folks don't have the equipment you have...to be able

to decipher which exact technical combination of: fields/energies/ect set

us off...so the translation ends

up being: wifi bothers some, towers set others off, certain appliances

bother some, electrical fields bother

some, magnetic flields bother others, etc.

Maybe you could enlighten us on the sources of " longitudinal waves " ?

For example, are these waves put out by wireless? Or electrical

appliances?

Or bad wiring? Or ???

And perhaps you could share with us, " which " gadgets that in your view

help to improve the immune system, and how they work?

I can see where this information just might be very helpful to many people.

As to accupressure, there is a book that is based on pressure point therapy

that is vey similiar to accupressure, only it requires no tools. This is

especially

useful for those with limited budgets. You use your fingers in this

technique.

The book is called: " Healing with Pressure Point Therapy " by Jack Forem &

Steve Shimer.(amazon.com) It's not hard to learn, the book is easy to

read,

and you can do these techniques anywhere.

Lizzie

[Guest guest]

Hi, ,

Do you also stop watches?  I am a watch stopper, myself.  I thought I

recognised you!  lol

(your symptoms, that is.    )  I have gotten similar results to your

shielding incident when preparing aluminum foil for baking a turkey.  And, yes,

I have abnormal internal circuitry, supposedly.  I have heard, tho, that for

some of us, a deficiency of progesterone can cause this. 

Welcome to the group!

Diane

From: fideaueater <delyme@...>

Subject: Re: EMF shileding products

Date: Saturday, August 20, 2011, 9:51 AM

 

Some years ago when my ES was worse, I bought some shielding cloth with

the idea I could make it in to a hat. Anyhow, I picked it up, folded it in to a

triangle, flipped it in the air preparing to try it out as a headscarf and it

hit me almost like a bolt of lightning.

I didn't want to be within feet of the wallpaper.

the supplier didn't have answers, except that he'd seen it happen to a friend.

Can't recall which organisation I contacted next but they suggested that I had

more aberrant electrical activity inside of me than without???

>

>

> There are many of us with different level of sensitivities.

> If a person had worse symptoms from a  hat or other shedding

> coated cloth , would that mean the person is sensitive to longitude waves?

>

>

> The hat helps me concentrate, but at the same time causes more jittery

feelings,

> if that makes sense? I couldn't' handle a faraday cage. Caused tingling

feelings

> that went into burning & nausea. But I used it when we had all 3 amr meters.

>

> I need help to lessen the effects. I can hardly stand being in a store, with

their

> cfl's. 

>

> Kathy 

> calicocat477@...

>

>

>

> From: Gruendg@... <Gruendg@...>

> Subject: Re: Re: EMF shileding products

>

> Date: Friday, August 19, 2011, 6:01 PM

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> Hi,

>

> concerniing longitudinal waves, has this knowlede first got from

>

> me. Longitudinal waves are always present where you can measure any

>

> electromagnetic fields. They are like the other side of the coin. In my

research I

>

> first thought absorbing them through these gizmos. Later I discovered that

>

> there are gizmos on the market that change the biological effect of RF even

>

> into some positive from negative instead of just neutralising the harmful

>

> effect. This is only possible if the longitudinal waves are still present.

>

>

>

> And this phenomenon, that RF can transmit biological effective information

>

> through the inherent longitudinal waves since long has been used in

>

> alternative medicine for therapy. So far the inventors did hesitate to state

that

>

> they use longitudinal waves, because in ordinary phýsics they are thought

>

> not to exist. No one wants to be ridiculed using something that is supposed

>

> not to exist. No one wants to get into legal problems because of this.

>

>

>

> As soon as you know how to alter the biologically effective information

>

> ,carried by the longitudinal waves, through some process of resonance, you

>

> basically have the key to effectively approach the problem of electromagnetic

>

> pollution.

>

>

>

>

>

> dietrich

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>

> In einer eMail vom 15.08.2011 19:02:28 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit schreibt

>

> lizt777@...:

>

>

>

> Thank you .

>

> Unfortunately, many ES folks don't have the equipment you have...to be able

>

> to decipher which exact technical combination of: fields/energies/ect set

>

> us off...so the translation ends

>

> up being: wifi bothers some, towers set others off, certain appliances

>

> bother some, electrical fields bother

>

> some, magnetic flields bother others, etc.

>

>

>

> Maybe you could enlighten us on the sources of " longitudinal waves " ?

>

> For example, are these waves put out by wireless? Or electrical

>

> appliances?

>

> Or bad wiring? Or ???

>

> And perhaps you could share with us, " which " gadgets that in your view

>

> help to improve the immune system, and how they work?

>

>

>

> I can see where this information just might be very helpful to many people.

>

>

>

> As to accupressure, there is a book that is based on pressure point therapy

>

> that is vey similiar to accupressure, only it requires no tools. This is

>

> especially

>

> useful for those with limited budgets. You use your fingers in this

>

> technique.

>

> The book is called: " Healing with Pressure Point Therapy " by Jack Forem &

>

> Steve Shimer.(amazon.com) It's not hard to learn, the book is easy to

>

> read,

>

> and you can do these techniques anywhere.

>

> Lizzie

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Diane,

Thanks for the welcome!

No, no watch stopping or flash cooking of turkey from handling foil, but I used

set off theft alarms in shops as I passed those detecting devices on the way

out. May have set a couple off on the way in too. Not that anyone ever stopped

me but they looked awfie puzzled (I want to say alarmed!!) And lightning, I

felt like I became one with a bolt of lightning. All this was after my ES went

from mild to mad after being swiped with a hand held metal detector.

Some days when my ES feels worse I realise my mineral status feels off too.

Used to be a bigger problem when I regulalry took mineral supplements.

Interesting about the progesterone. I tried a progesterone cream but for

calming neuro excitability. Tiny amounts but it had the opposite effect. You've

reminded me that a few years back I was told it was being scientifically

trialled for MS which sort of links in with abnormal circuittry. Wonder what

happened there......

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> > There are many of us with different level of sensitivities.

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> > If a person had worse symptoms from a  hat or other shedding

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> > coated cloth , would that mean the person is sensitive to longitude waves?

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> > The hat helps me concentrate, but at the same time causes more jittery

feelings,

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> > if that makes sense? I couldn't' handle a faraday cage. Caused tingling

feelings

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> > that went into burning & nausea. But I used it when we had all 3 amr meters.

>

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> > I need help to lessen the effects. I can hardly stand being in a store, with

their

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> > cfl's. 

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> > Kathy 

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> > concerniing longitudinal waves, has this knowlede first got from

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>

> > me. Longitudinal waves are always present where you can measure any

>

> >

>

> > electromagnetic fields. They are like the other side of the coin. In my

research I

>

> >

>

> > first thought absorbing them through these gizmos. Later I discovered that

>

> >

>

> > there are gizmos on the market that change the biological effect of RF even

>

> >

>

> > into some positive from negative instead of just neutralising the harmful

>

> >

>

> > effect. This is only possible if the longitudinal waves are still present.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > And this phenomenon, that RF can transmit biological effective information

>

> >

>

> > through the inherent longitudinal waves since long has been used in

>

> >

>

> > alternative medicine for therapy. So far the inventors did hesitate to state

that

>

> >

>

> > they use longitudinal waves, because in ordinary phýsics they are thought

>

> >

>

> > not to exist. No one wants to be ridiculed using something that is supposed

>

> >

>

> > not to exist. No one wants to get into legal problems because of this.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > As soon as you know how to alter the biologically effective information

>

> >

>

> > ,carried by the longitudinal waves, through some process of resonance, you

>

> >

>

> > basically have the key to effectively approach the problem of

electromagnetic

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> > pollution.

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> > In einer eMail vom 15.08.2011 19:02:28 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit

schreibt

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> > lizt777@:

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> >

>

> >

>

> > Thank you .

>

> >

>

> > Unfortunately, many ES folks don't have the equipment you have...to be able

>

> >

>

> > to decipher which exact technical combination of: fields/energies/ect set

>

> >

>

> > us off...so the translation ends

>

> >

>

> > up being: wifi bothers some, towers set others off, certain appliances

>

> >

>

> > bother some, electrical fields bother

>

> >

>

> > some, magnetic flields bother others, etc.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Maybe you could enlighten us on the sources of " longitudinal waves " ?

>

> >

>

> > For example, are these waves put out by wireless? Or electrical

>

> >

>

> > appliances?

>

> >

>

> > Or bad wiring? Or ???

>

> >

>

> > And perhaps you could share with us, " which " gadgets that in your view

>

> >

>

> > help to improve the immune system, and how they work?

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > I can see where this information just might be very helpful to many people.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > As to accupressure, there is a book that is based on pressure point therapy

>

> >

>

> > that is vey similiar to accupressure, only it requires no tools. This is

>

> >

>

> > especially

>

> >

>

> > useful for those with limited budgets. You use your fingers in this

>

> >

>

> > technique.

>

> >

>

> > The book is called: " Healing with Pressure Point Therapy " by Jack Forem &

>

> >

>

> > Steve Shimer.(amazon.com) It's not hard to learn, the book is easy to

>

> >

>

> > read,

>

> >

>

> > and you can do these techniques anywhere.

>

> >

>

> > Lizzie

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[Guest guest]

Hi, Diane

there has an misunderstanding come in. I said, for heavily electrosensitive

people, where BioProtect or other products dont seem to help, often the

cause is an intoxication with heavy metals. It is clear that then a

detoxification is necessary. That does not mean to take out any other metal

like

gold crowns, or hip joints.

The actual cause why BioProtect in some cases doe not work, is its

resonance with the Tesla waves. In ES the resonance of the body may be stronger

than the resonance of the card and so the body is still affected. So one way

would be to develop products with much stronger resonance, as I did and in

many cases not all it worked out well. One has to try, as it is the case

with all the other products.

This dies not exclude the intelligent use of supplements and proper

nutrition, taking care of the thyroid or the adrenals. But usually one should

start with more simple things.

I know of people that could not sleep well with electric heating in the

house until using BioProtect on the breaker box.

Dietrich

In einer eMail vom 21.08.2011 03:15:34 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit schreibt

evie15422@...:

Hi, Dietrich,

I noted that the website Marc sent on regarding your BioProtect card said

that electro-sensitives should get metals out of their bodies before

wearing your card, or they might react worse with it on. In my case, (and

Marc's, and many others), this is not an easy thing to do! So I am guessing

this

is why your card has not worked for some of us.

However, would your card still work for us to use off our bodies, at the

incoming electric panel box, for instance? Does anybody on the forum know

this, or has anyone tried it??? Just curious.

Thanks very much, Dietrich,

Diane

[Guest guest]

The card doesn't seem to to do anything for me. Loni

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: Re: EMF shileding products

Date: Friday, August 19, 2011, 7:13 AM

 

> I would echo what Lizzie says in her post. I would be very very interested to

> know about any product Dr Gruen  might have - which might be of more benefit

in

> combatting ES. I have been wearing a bioprotect card for about 2 years

Well, his product *is* the BioProtect card! If you want to learn more

about it, I'd suggest reading this web page:

http://golden-ray.com/index.php?option=com_content & view=article & id=5 & Itemid=14

Marc

[Guest guest]

Thanks Dietrich,

I understand the use of your card better now.  Thanks for doing the research to

try to find ways to help us.  Even when things do not help 100%, it is good to

know people are at least trying to find helpful treatments and " gizmos " , as you

call them.   

It is an odd thing, but recently, I am finding our electric wiring and

particular electronics are actually helpful when they are plugged in, to help

keep outside frequencies out of our house!  We had actually set our house up to

be off grid, but I see (actually, I feel) now that the electrics actually keep

more wireless out now when it is on!  Have you done any experiments that shows

this is the case?  Just curious.  I have only noticed one other person here at

the forum mention this (I think Eli).  In the coming years, it seems we will

need more and more protection from the wireless frequencies from without, and so

this could be potentially helpful if we understood cancellation of frequencies

better.  Are there any good books that you (or others here) know of on this

subject? 

My neighbor across the road put in a wireless alarm system this spring, and

afterward I could slightly feel it when in bed, except when certain cars went

by!  I could literally feel the disruption in the frequencies from cars passing

between her house and ours!  Not every car did it, but many cars did.  It got

me thinking that cancellation of frequencies would be a great area of study. 

As a result, I started trying varying the electrics on the wiring coming into

the house.  Now I usually cannot feel the alarm system at all.  However, it is

hard to tell what is causing what--I can have good days and bad days physically

which also affect whether I can feel the frequencies.  I had a few days of

being fairly reactive--I later realized I was reacting physically to solar

CMEs.  I was having heart fibrillation and blood pressure plummeting, and

blaming it on the neighbor's alarm system, but it was actually solar related. 

So many variables to

consider, it is mind boggling.  lol

Thanks again, Dietrich, for your continuing research.  I appreciate your

commitment,

Diane

From: Gruendg@... <Gruendg@...>

Subject: Re: Re: EMF shileding products

Date: Monday, August 22, 2011, 5:20 PM

 

Hi, Diane

there has an misunderstanding come in. I said, for heavily electrosensitive

people, where BioProtect or other products dont seem to help, often the

cause is an intoxication with heavy metals. It is clear that then a

detoxification is necessary. That does not mean to take out any other metal

like

gold crowns, or hip joints.

The actual cause why BioProtect in some cases doe not work, is its

resonance with the Tesla waves. In ES the resonance of the body may be stronger

than the resonance of the card and so the body is still affected. So one way

would be to develop products with much stronger resonance, as I did and in

many cases not all it worked out well. One has to try, as it is the case

with all the other products.

This dies not exclude the intelligent use of supplements and proper

nutrition, taking care of the thyroid or the adrenals. But usually one should

start with more simple things.

I know of people that could not sleep well with electric heating in the

house until using BioProtect on the breaker box.

Dietrich

In einer eMail vom 21.08.2011 03:15:34 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit schreibt

evie15422@...:

Hi, Dietrich,

I noted that the website Marc sent on regarding your BioProtect card said

that electro-sensitives should get metals out of their bodies before

wearing your card, or they might react worse with it on. In my case, (and

Marc's, and many others), this is not an easy thing to do! So I am guessing

this

is why your card has not worked for some of us.

However, would your card still work for us to use off our bodies, at the

incoming electric panel box, for instance? Does anybody on the forum know

this, or has anyone tried it??? Just curious.

Thanks very much, Dietrich,

Diane

[Guest guest]

Diane what are all your symptoms-if you don't mind me asking?

Mahalo,

Christin Brezil

Grain-Free Granola Head,

wife to and momma to 3 boys

{Dylan Bryce 10 }{ Evan Lane 5 }{ Lucian Kai 2 }

 

" Simplicity is the ultimate form of sophistication. "

~ Leonardo da Vinci

 

http://www.facebook.com/thomasandchristin

http://www.westonaprice.org/

http://www.gaps.me/

From: Evie <evie15422@...>

Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 11:22 AM

Subject: Re: Re: EMF shileding products

 

Thanks Dietrich,

I understand the use of your card better now.  Thanks for doing the research to

try to find ways to help us.  Even when things do not help 100%, it is good to

know people are at least trying to find helpful treatments and " gizmos " , as you

call them.   

It is an odd thing, but recently, I am finding our electric wiring and

particular electronics are actually helpful when they are plugged in, to help

keep outside frequencies out of our house!  We had actually set our house up to

be off grid, but I see (actually, I feel) now that the electrics actually keep

more wireless out now when it is on!  Have you done any experiments that shows

this is the case?  Just curious.  I have only noticed one other person here at

the forum mention this (I think Eli).  In the coming years, it seems we will

need more and more protection from the wireless frequencies from without, and so

this could be potentially helpful if we understood cancellation of frequencies

better.  Are there any good books that you (or others here) know of on this

subject? 

My neighbor across the road put in a wireless alarm system this spring, and

afterward I could slightly feel it when in bed, except when certain cars went

by!  I could literally feel the disruption in the frequencies from cars passing

between her house and ours!  Not every car did it, but many cars did.  It got

me thinking that cancellation of frequencies would be a great area of study. 

As a result, I started trying varying the electrics on the wiring coming into

the house.  Now I usually cannot feel the alarm system at all.  However, it is

hard to tell what is causing what--I can have good days and bad days physically

which also affect whether I can feel the frequencies.  I had a few days of

being fairly reactive--I later realized I was reacting physically to solar

CMEs.  I was having heart fibrillation and blood pressure plummeting, and

blaming it on the neighbor's alarm system, but it was actually solar related. 

So many variables to

consider, it is mind boggling.  lol

Thanks again, Dietrich, for your continuing research.  I appreciate your

commitment,

Diane

From: Gruendg@... <Gruendg@...>

Subject: Re: Re: EMF shileding products

Date: Monday, August 22, 2011, 5:20 PM

 

Hi, Diane

there has an misunderstanding come in. I said, for heavily electrosensitive

people, where BioProtect or other products dont seem to help, often the

cause is an intoxication with heavy metals. It is clear that then a

detoxification is necessary. That does not mean to take out any other metal like

gold crowns, or hip joints.

The actual cause why BioProtect in some cases doe not work, is its

resonance with the Tesla waves. In ES the resonance of the body may be stronger

than the resonance of the card and so the body is still affected. So one way

would be to develop products with much stronger resonance, as I did and in

many cases not all it worked out well. One has to try, as it is the case

with all the other products.

This dies not exclude the intelligent use of supplements and proper

nutrition, taking care of the thyroid or the adrenals. But usually one should

start with more simple things.

I know of people that could not sleep well with electric heating in the

house until using BioProtect on the breaker box.

Dietrich

In einer eMail vom 21.08.2011 03:15:34 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit schreibt

evie15422@...:

Hi, Dietrich,

I noted that the website Marc sent on regarding your BioProtect card said

that electro-sensitives should get metals out of their bodies before

wearing your card, or they might react worse with it on. In my case, (and

Marc's, and many others), this is not an easy thing to do! So I am guessing this

is why your card has not worked for some of us.

However, would your card still work for us to use off our bodies, at the

incoming electric panel box, for instance? Does anybody on the forum know

this, or has anyone tried it??? Just curious.

Thanks very much, Dietrich,

Diane

[Guest guest]

Hi Christin,

I have many and varied symptoms, depending on the type of frequency and how

badly I have neglected my health and nutritional status, the amount of wear from

work I am doing, the solar flares, radiation events locally....

However, that said, my symptoms usually break down to autonomic nervous system

symptoms (dysautonomia), migraine/ headaches of various types, muscle and joint

pain, or electrical buzzing/ vibrations thru-out my body and especially of my

left arm and hand (which sustained a bad injury 2 years ago).  It is the

autonomic nervous system symptoms which are, by far, most problematic and

dangerous--heart rate/ bp/ bs/ temps/ difficulty breathing/ etc .  I have also

seemingly had strokes from emfs. 

I have had good help and recovery from supplements and detoxing (especially

detoxing my bone marrow with homeopathy), but still a bad attack can sometimes

come literally out of nowhere.  My last bad spell was due to the CMEs which I

mentioned (in late June, if memory serves); last summer I had a major stroke

(all of the symptoms of stroke at once) which effected me badly for about 8

hours and then I recovered but had bad fatigue and confused thinking/ speech for

about a month).  Otherwise, I react very minorly usually to short encounters

with cell and microwave towers, others' electronic gadgets they are wearing, etc

with the other symptoms I've mentioned.  There were years where the autonomic

symptoms were an everyday way of life.  I was nearly totally bed-bound for 13

years.  So, while it may sound like things are still bad for me, I feel quite

fortunate to have recovered to a place where I can have a nearly normal life.

Good luck, Christin.  Does this sound familiar to you?  (re dysautonomia)

Diane

From: Gruendg@... <Gruendg@...>

Subject: Re: Re: EMF shileding products

Date: Monday, August 22, 2011, 5:20 PM

 

Hi, Diane

there has an misunderstanding come in. I said, for heavily electrosensitive

people, where BioProtect or other products dont seem to help, often the

cause is an intoxication with heavy metals. It is clear that then a

detoxification is necessary. That does not mean to take out any other metal like

gold crowns, or hip joints.

The actual cause why BioProtect in some cases doe not work, is its

resonance with the Tesla waves. In ES the resonance of the body may be stronger

than the resonance of the card and so the body is still affected. So one way

would be to develop products with much stronger resonance, as I did and in

many cases not all it worked out well. One has to try, as it is the case

with all the other products.

This dies not exclude the intelligent use of supplements and proper

nutrition, taking care of the thyroid or the adrenals. But usually one should

start with more simple things.

I know of people that could not sleep well with electric heating in the

house until using BioProtect on the breaker box.

Dietrich

In einer eMail vom 21.08.2011 03:15:34 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit schreibt

evie15422@...:

Hi, Dietrich,

I noted that the website Marc sent on regarding your BioProtect card said

that electro-sensitives should get metals out of their bodies before

wearing your card, or they might react worse with it on. In my case, (and

Marc's, and many others), this is not an easy thing to do! So I am guessing this

is why your card has not worked for some of us.

However, would your card still work for us to use off our bodies, at the

incoming electric panel box, for instance? Does anybody on the forum know

this, or has anyone tried it??? Just curious.

Thanks very much, Dietrich,

Diane

[Guest guest]

PS Christin,

I am also glutenfree--I have celiac disease.  I noticed your grain-free letter

head.  lol

From: Gruendg@... <Gruendg@...>

Subject: Re: Re: EMF shileding products

Date: Monday, August 22, 2011, 5:20 PM

 

Hi, Diane

there has an misunderstanding come in. I said, for heavily electrosensitive

people, where BioProtect or other products dont seem to help, often the

cause is an intoxication with heavy metals. It is clear that then a

detoxification is necessary. That does not mean to take out any other metal like

gold crowns, or hip joints.

The actual cause why BioProtect in some cases doe not work, is its

resonance with the Tesla waves. In ES the resonance of the body may be stronger

than the resonance of the card and so the body is still affected. So one way

would be to develop products with much stronger resonance, as I did and in

many cases not all it worked out well. One has to try, as it is the case

with all the other products.

This dies not exclude the intelligent use of supplements and proper

nutrition, taking care of the thyroid or the adrenals. But usually one should

start with more simple things.

I know of people that could not sleep well with electric heating in the

house until using BioProtect on the breaker box.

Dietrich

In einer eMail vom 21.08.2011 03:15:34 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit schreibt

evie15422@...:

Hi, Dietrich,

I noted that the website Marc sent on regarding your BioProtect card said

that electro-sensitives should get metals out of their bodies before

wearing your card, or they might react worse with it on. In my case, (and

Marc's, and many others), this is not an easy thing to do! So I am guessing this

is why your card has not worked for some of us.

However, would your card still work for us to use off our bodies, at the

incoming electric panel box, for instance? Does anybody on the forum know

this, or has anyone tried it??? Just curious.

Thanks very much, Dietrich,

Diane

[Guest guest]

Wow!! This stuff goes under the radar.....so glad you are doing better and

speaking up about it!

Mahalo,

Christin Brezil

Grain-Free Granola Head,

wife to and momma to 3 boys

{Dylan Bryce 10 }{ Evan Lane 5 }{ Lucian Kai 2 }

 

" Simplicity is the ultimate form of sophistication. "

~ Leonardo da Vinci

 

http://www.facebook.com/thomasandchristin

http://www.westonaprice.org/

http://www.gaps.me/

From: Evie <evie15422@...>

Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 12:22 PM

Subject: Re: Re: EMF shileding products

 

Hi Christin,

I have many and varied symptoms, depending on the type of frequency and how

badly I have neglected my health and nutritional status, the amount of wear from

work I am doing, the solar flares, radiation events locally....

However, that said, my symptoms usually break down to autonomic nervous system

symptoms (dysautonomia), migraine/ headaches of various types, muscle and joint

pain, or electrical buzzing/ vibrations thru-out my body and especially of my

left arm and hand (which sustained a bad injury 2 years ago).  It is the

autonomic nervous system symptoms which are, by far, most problematic and

dangerous--heart rate/ bp/ bs/ temps/ difficulty breathing/ etc .  I have also

seemingly had strokes from emfs. 

I have had good help and recovery from supplements and detoxing (especially

detoxing my bone marrow with homeopathy), but still a bad attack can sometimes

come literally out of nowhere.  My last bad spell was due to the CMEs which I

mentioned (in late June, if memory serves); last summer I had a major stroke

(all of the symptoms of stroke at once) which effected me badly for about 8

hours and then I recovered but had bad fatigue and confused thinking/ speech for

about a month).  Otherwise, I react very minorly usually to short encounters

with cell and microwave towers, others' electronic gadgets they are wearing, etc

with the other symptoms I've mentioned.  There were years where the autonomic

symptoms were an everyday way of life.  I was nearly totally bed-bound for 13

years.  So, while it may sound like things are still bad for me, I feel quite

fortunate to have recovered to a place where I can have a nearly normal life.

Good luck, Christin.  Does this sound familiar to you?  (re dysautonomia)

Diane

From: Gruendg@... <Gruendg@...>

Subject: Re: Re: EMF shileding products

Date: Monday, August 22, 2011, 5:20 PM

 

Hi, Diane

there has an misunderstanding come in. I said, for heavily electrosensitive

people, where BioProtect or other products dont seem to help, often the

cause is an intoxication with heavy metals. It is clear that then a

detoxification is necessary. That does not mean to take out any other metal like

gold crowns, or hip joints.

The actual cause why BioProtect in some cases doe not work, is its

resonance with the Tesla waves. In ES the resonance of the body may be stronger

than the resonance of the card and so the body is still affected. So one way

would be to develop products with much stronger resonance, as I did and in

many cases not all it worked out well. One has to try, as it is the case

with all the other products.

This dies not exclude the intelligent use of supplements and proper

nutrition, taking care of the thyroid or the adrenals. But usually one should

start with more simple things.

I know of people that could not sleep well with electric heating in the

house until using BioProtect on the breaker box.

Dietrich

In einer eMail vom 21.08.2011 03:15:34 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit schreibt

evie15422@...:

Hi, Dietrich,

I noted that the website Marc sent on regarding your BioProtect card said

that electro-sensitives should get metals out of their bodies before

wearing your card, or they might react worse with it on. In my case, (and

Marc's, and many others), this is not an easy thing to do! So I am guessing this

is why your card has not worked for some of us.

However, would your card still work for us to use off our bodies, at the

incoming electric panel box, for instance? Does anybody on the forum know

this, or has anyone tried it??? Just curious.

Thanks very much, Dietrich,

Diane

[Guest guest]

Yeah, we do a grain free version of the Weston Price/Gaps diet.

Mahalo,

Christin Brezil

Grain-Free Granola Head,

wife to and momma to 3 boys

{Dylan Bryce 10 }{ Evan Lane 5 }{ Lucian Kai 2 }

 

" Simplicity is the ultimate form of sophistication. "

~ Leonardo da Vinci

 

http://www.facebook.com/thomasandchristin

http://www.westonaprice.org/

http://www.gaps.me/

From: Evie <evie15422@...>

Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 12:23 PM

Subject: Re: Re: EMF shileding products

 

PS Christin,

I am also glutenfree--I have celiac disease.  I noticed your grain-free letter

head.  lol

From: Gruendg@... <Gruendg@...>

Subject: Re: Re: EMF shileding products

Date: Monday, August 22, 2011, 5:20 PM

 

Hi, Diane

there has an misunderstanding come in. I said, for heavily electrosensitive

people, where BioProtect or other products dont seem to help, often the

cause is an intoxication with heavy metals. It is clear that then a

detoxification is necessary. That does not mean to take out any other metal like

gold crowns, or hip joints.

The actual cause why BioProtect in some cases doe not work, is its

resonance with the Tesla waves. In ES the resonance of the body may be stronger

than the resonance of the card and so the body is still affected. So one way

would be to develop products with much stronger resonance, as I did and in

many cases not all it worked out well. One has to try, as it is the case

with all the other products.

This dies not exclude the intelligent use of supplements and proper

nutrition, taking care of the thyroid or the adrenals. But usually one should

start with more simple things.

I know of people that could not sleep well with electric heating in the

house until using BioProtect on the breaker box.

Dietrich

In einer eMail vom 21.08.2011 03:15:34 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit schreibt

evie15422@...:

Hi, Dietrich,

I noted that the website Marc sent on regarding your BioProtect card said

that electro-sensitives should get metals out of their bodies before

wearing your card, or they might react worse with it on. In my case, (and

Marc's, and many others), this is not an easy thing to do! So I am guessing this

is why your card has not worked for some of us.

However, would your card still work for us to use off our bodies, at the

incoming electric panel box, for instance? Does anybody on the forum know

this, or has anyone tried it??? Just curious.

Thanks very much, Dietrich,

Diane